Ar Tonelico and GUST thread

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Ar Tonelico and GUST thread Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:33:54 2010 No.6688707 [Reply] [Original]

Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5e2ttnrjtim3n4i

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer and bios. Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client, plugins are automatically included. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

Utau Oka ~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ is out! Download it here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?cim8496yi6mmvmi

AT3 Artbook - http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

AT visual book being scanned (at a low pace, don't hold your breath)
http://rapidshare.com/files/436804641/tonelico_pack2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437185283/tonelico_pack3_Low.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/437190766/tonelico_pack3_Hi.rar

AT2 Raki bug patch - http://www.mediafire.com/?bp8ydy03ml7r5xa
You shouldn't need this if you're using the newest version (0.9.7) of PCSX2. Thanks to anonymous for uploading this!

Latest Technical Data Compilation Room Issue:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Ar_Ciel_Technical_Data_Compilati
on_Room/Issue_14

Latest Toukousphere Translation:
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Special_Issue_5

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:34:41 2010 No.6688713 File: 98 KB, 960x540, averagejp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:35:54 2010 No.6688714

Cocona hymmnos musical:
http://www.mediafire.com/?letcjqruowol5gw

Link to the album ripper's site too because it's nicely organized with the other AT OSTs: http://skyvatilia.blogspot.com/

In before: Halloween.jpg, Luca is a whore and a slut, that guy with the cocona, and trolls.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:45:54 2010 No.6688791 I've just finished AT 1 and that was superiorly joyful. Thank you, /jp/ for showing it to me via this threads, keep up the good work.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:47:54 2010 No.6688800 Cynthia, superior, Croix = tasteless jerk, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:51:54 2010 No.6688831 File: 45 KB, 731x194, -jp- - Otaku Culture_1292982085546.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I should probably forget about this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:52:54 2010 No.6688839 >>6688800 Stop being so frustrated, Vita.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:52:54 2010 No.6688840 File: 92 KB, 475x665, 1273721099624.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this the right thread for me to declare my undying love for Jakuri?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:53:54 2010 No.6688843 >>6688840 Yes it is.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:53:54 2010 No.6688846 File: 947 KB, 1640x2708, 28.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6688843 Forgot to post pictures.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 13:58:54 2010 No.6688872 File: 98 KB, 648x779, dcbca3947e04948324ee17b685a15b07e0a303d0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6688843 Good.

Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:01:54 2010 No.6688884

I got the Jacqli ending on my last playthrough of the game, I'm glad they didn't halfass her ending.
Hers is just as good as the other two if not better.
After all, I don't remember Croix learning hymnos for the other two just so he could express his undying love for them.

Don't ever let him go, Jacqli!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:02:54 2010 No.6688894 >>6688884 I loved that scene.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:04:54 2010 No.6688899 File: 229 KB, 1000x717, 11192446.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6688884 I cried happy tears at that scene.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:09:54 2010 No.6688917 File: 313 KB, 1000x1305, 1292197596545.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I want Christmas Mir as a present.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:10:54 2010 No.6688927 >>6688917 Don't we all?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:17:54 2010 No.6688964 File: 442 KB, 838x700, 1292069332550.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6688927 ;_;

Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:21:54 2010 No.6688993
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The first time through AT2 I was gunning for Cloche and had already gotten locked into her ending by the time I got around to level five of Jacqli's cosmosphere...

... At which point I said "fuck it" and loaded the save I had made before going into Cloche's 6th level, losing about 12 hours of progress just so I could get Jacqli's ending first.

Sorry for being such an unfaithful dog, Cloche-sama. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:24:54 2010 No.6689008 >~Ar=Ciel Ar=Dor~ I am going to assume that it is not a coincidence that I randomly downloaded and album containing that in the title a couple of months ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:27:54 2010 No.6689025 Thanks for the links. Will try

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:29:54 2010 No.6689037 File: 102 KB, 679x873, 06c2661414c7cc894572902a9215e01f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6688917 we all know that feel

Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:31:54 2010 No.6689049

I downloaded and seeded both disks until a 200 share ratio. Goddamnit I haven't even played it once. Maybe I'll start on it soon but I have so many games to play and finish. I have so many games close to being finished but never do. Goddamnit I hate myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:40:54 2010 No.6689091 File: 28 KB, 700x700, 1292961896216.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6688993 It's okay anon, Jacqli is worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 14:57:54 2010 No.6689157 File: 111 KB, 891x792, Cynthia's dream.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Don't mind me, just being the best ending you'll never get.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 15:06:54 2010 No.6689188 File: 480 KB, 1400x1416, 727544f6f2d14c699c7e6cc628be6c1b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6689157 That's not Skycat end.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 15:07:54 2010 No.6689190 >>6689188 Of course it's not. I said best, so that clearly indicates that I was referring to a Cynthia ending.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 15:11:54 2010 No.6689207 File: 216 KB, 567x600, 422461a2dcef9ab23d235c40b24ac6bf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6689190 Friendzone, friendzone never changes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 15:15:54 2010 No.6689217 File: 185 KB, 570x428, Croix is a tasteless jerk.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6689207 Really trying to give 'ol Croix a run for his money, eh Hourai?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 15:38:54 2010 No.6689296 File: 114 KB, 478x660, 241e79dc5fd1b51b1e909d31ffa9c923.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6689217 You wouldn't want to have weird conversations with just a friend, would you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 16:54:54 2010 No.6689632 File: 248 KB, 811x1110, b2306bf18f01e3221f8ab63a0f14bd61192cd68f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just gonna leave this here...

Anonymous Sat Dec 25 17:47:54 2010 No.6689875

>1221 Downloads

Huh, randomly got around 250 downloads over the past week or two for the Lazy Pack.

>>6688714

Sadly I expected an album of Hymmnos songs from Rekka Katakiri but a drama CD is fine too. I'd honestly love to know what's going on in it though..

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 25 23:57:54 2010 No.6691529 File: 90 KB, 600x500, 1282648696239.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can't wait for Shitframe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 00:11:54 2010 No.6691596 Must find time to finish the first two before 3 comes out. Fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 04:21:54 2010 No.6692657 >>6691596 Keep in mind they're about 25-30 hours a piece for a single playthrough + a few more hours if you intend to clear the other girls and keep saves before route changing decisions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 05:38:54 2010 No.6692939 Help. I get "(pxInvokeActionEvent) CDVD plugin failed to open. Your computer may have insufficient resources, or incompatible hardware/drivers.(thread:EE Core) User-canceled plugin configuration after plugin initialization failure. Plugins unloaded."

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:11:54 2010 No.6693242 >>6692939 Try googling for a solution or read this thread. http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Problem-encounter-in-PCSX2-0-9-7?page=2

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:18:54 2010 No.6693259 File: 253 KB, 1600x1067, DSC01489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I buy ~Ar=ciel Ar=dor~ /jp/? It's pretty cheap right now and the box and disc art are delicious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:20:54 2010 No.6693264 >>6693259 Save your money and smuggle that Jakuri daki out of Japan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:23:54 2010 No.6693273 any Gust games for PS3 in english? That's all I have at the moment

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:25:54 2010 No.6693278 File: 285 KB, 689x689, 1285206916990.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6693273 Atelier Rorona. Wait for AT3 and Totorin next year.

Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:27:54 2010 No.6693282

>>6693264

I'd agree with this but after seeing Fayharn's blog I really want that Cocona one instead, she just looks so deliciously moe in her pyjamas.

>>6693259

Personally I'd suggest getting some of the other disks first since it only has 6 tracks but it's still a good buy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:32:54 2010 No.6693288 >>6693282 Where the hell would I even go about buying that dakimakura? There's one on ebay but it's $300, plus postage. Oh, and if not that one what discs should I get?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 07:47:54 2010 No.6693318 >>6693288 AT1-3 hymmnos albums are a nice treat though I'm unsure of their prices these days.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 08:20:54 2010 No.6693401 >>6692939 Solved. It was enough to change CDVD>Iso to CDVD>Plugin.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 08:22:54 2010 No.6693410 >>6688707 >Now updated with the latest PCsx2 SVN beta client Don't know that it particularly matters for AT but it's not the latest version of PCSX2 in the pack anymore. r3878 has been out on the site since October (and the pack contains r3113).

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 08:37:54 2010 No.6693438 >>6693410 Does it fix much? The client I put together months ago worked fine for me so I never bothered to make a new pack.

Anonymous Sun Dec 26 08:56:54 2010 No.6693492

>>6693438

Haven't started on AT yet so don't know about specific fixes/improvements for those games. It did make Haunting Ground playable for me though (whereas it isn't in r3113) - it got rid of the banded screen overlay when using hardware acceleration.

The new version news post states "this release has been compiled with extensive optimizations, so you can expect a small speedup over r3113" so it might be worth it for those trying AT on 'borderline good enough' PCs.

This was the other stuff listed from the news post:
- Gui work: threading, layout and stability have been improved.
- Some of the reported .ini writing issues should be fixed now.
- Game database: bug fixes, more entries, compatibility hints for pcsx2.
- Automated patching enabled now: known fixes/settings for some games can be enabled automatically.
- Emulation fixes to microVU.
- VIF/GIF work: Slightly faster and more compatible.
- Much work on GIFPath ordering issues. many games with previously flickering textures should work better.
- IPU retooled and optimized: A bit faster, a bit more compatible and much more sane (no more coroutines).
- Removed hazardous MMX/XMMregister freeze/restore. Speedup and stability is improved.
- Savestates are now free of memory leaks.
- Disk swapping works on a few games now (not all yet though).
- New "fast CDVD" speedhack. Load levels as fast as possible!
- Console logging is now configurable to be as verbose as in developer builds.
- Commandline support.
- A lot of other small tweaks and additions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 10:38:54 2010 No.6693761 >>6693492 Alright, I guess it can't hurt to throw up a new pack later on. Anything else that should be added?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 10:40:54 2010 No.6693767 >>6693761 64-bit build.

What's the expire point ? (Doubt about AT 1/Aurica) Akanezuliani Sun Dec 26 10:53:54 2010 No.6693787

What's the expire point of the lvl 1 talk topic about the size of the stone in the park of Nemo for Aurica?
I got to talk about it with Misha, but for Aurica it didn't show up, was reading some FAQ, and it said it is a lvl 1 talk topic and it should appear after I completed Falcon's Claw/Elemia Temple, thought it's the only talk topic I didn't get, I am on Phase 2 already.
Someone can help me?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 10:55:54 2010 No.6693794 >>6693767 There's a 64-bit build? I'm pretty sure it's already compatible without a separate build.

Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. Sun Dec 26 12:23:54 2010 No.6694042
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Hey, everyone hands off of my waifu!
...looking is allowed though.

Now that this is out of the way, I have a problem. Since the latest PCSX2 version, I can't navigate on the world map in AT2 and so far I haven't been able to fix it. Anyone here with similar problems/a solution? Official forums didn't help either last time I checked.

Anonymous Sun Dec 26 13:42:54 2010 No.6694253

>>6693761
I used an undub of Melody of Elemia from http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?t=56712.. It uses original Japanese audio for the FMVs. You can include that if anyone really cares. I sure did. I alt+F4'd at the first utterance of an English phoneme.

Anonymous Sun Dec 26 14:30:54 2010 No.6694444
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These threads always make me feel like playing AT2 again, even though I sort of want to hold it off until the retranslation is done (if it ever is ;_;)

Perhaps getting Jakuri's ending one more time won't hurt...

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 15:02:54 2010 No.6694583 >>6694253 You can also find Multiupload links on kureha: http://kureha.no-ip.org/k1/index.php?topic=522.0

Anonymous Sun Dec 26 15:18:54 2010 No.6694646

>>6694444
For the life of me I don't understand why this game is getting a retranslation or why people thinks it needs one.
I thought it was just fine.

Breath of Fire 2 actually becomes unintelligible at times, it needed the retranslation.
Why does AT2 need one?

Anonymous Sun Dec 26 16:40:54 2010 No.6694925

>>6694646

Some of the translations are way off, the characters sound completely different at times where it's clear that different translation styles were used and some of the names and such were completely ruined by the translation too. You can clearly see/hear this with the original Japanese version of the game or even the undub version just listening to their voices you can see that the translations are wrong. The game is still playable though and the retranslation project is going slow (or apparently stopped according to the last thread?) so it's not like the project is getting much attention anyway, it'd just be nice to have eventually.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 20:09:54 2010 No.6695704 File: 147 KB, 550x950, 15408332.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Obligatory translation request for moe Jakuri. Thanks as always, transanon

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 20:13:54 2010 No.6695723 >>6694925 There was an update last week. Maybe they'll surprise us before 3 comes out.

Anonymous Sun Dec 26 21:29:54 2010 No.6696085

>>6695704
Somebody said moe Jakuri, so I came running.

J: Merry Christmas, Croix.
C: Nwaaaah, Jakuri!?

C: What the hell is with that outfit? You're just wearing a ribbon! (At least put on some underwear...)
Here, put these on!
J: What's the problem? I don't really mind if other people see my body.

C: That's not the problem... I don't want other men to see you naked... !

*bluu uush*

J: Don't say dumb things like that!
C: Jakuri...
J: ... idiot.
L+C: Fucking normals!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 23:29:54 2010 No.6696650 File: 227 KB, 871x1002, 1281421323499.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Sun Dec 26 23:33:54 2010 No.6696671 >Ar Tonelico and GUST thread What other cutesy games did GUST make that you recommend, Anon?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 26 23:36:54 2010 No.6696692 File: 245 KB, 467x665, 1293349247054.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6696671 Which console?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:15:54 2010 No.6696861 I love the mana khemia games. Good music, interesting themes, and the graphics are largely the same. You can really tell they're made by the same company too with the item creation system in both series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:17:37 2010 No.6696866 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:20:37 2010 No.6696883 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:22:37 2010 No.6696892 >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:23:04 2010 No.6696894 >>>/v/

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Mon Dec 27 00:23:54 2010 No.6696893 >>6696692 Not PS3

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:25:54 2010 No.6696899 File: 26 KB, 600x156, 1283020172243.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6696893 Try the Atelier and Mana Khemia series, they're either on PS2 or DS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:27:54 2010 No.6696907 File: 166 KB, 1280x1024, 1262257685413.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6696671 I had a lot of fun with Mana Khemia. Some of the characters were quite entertaining.

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Mon Dec 27 00:29:54 2010 No.6696914 >>6696907 >>6696899 Isn't Mana Khemia the synthesis game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:29:54 2010 No.6696916 File: 98 KB, 400x400, 1275099432829.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6696907 Or an Atelier Melody.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:32:54 2010 No.6696930 File: 280 KB, 1024x768, f8736fd7c542655950f96784eb1533684657568e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6696914 I'd say that is a fair description of it, yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:33:54 2010 No.6696939 File: 1.10 MB, 1600x1200, d50f6846125987288a35eb29ef419e9a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6696914 It is, synthesis system is somewhat similar to AT's. Or you can try Atelier series, like Atelier Annie which Recettear ripoff'd.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 00:53:54 2010 No.6696998 >>6696916 i never heard of any atelier games called melody. i just googled it and didnt find anything.

Anonymous Mon Dec 27 02:14:54 2010 No.6697371
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I'm currently on the second year of Mana Khemia, and it's been really good so far. It's just a remarkably solid game without any big flaws (that I have seen, anyway).

Still, it is the Ar tonelico games that hold a special place in my heart. To make an analogy, Mana Khemia is the nice, pretty girl you bring home to show off to your parents and relatives while Ar tonelico is the seductive woman on the other side of town who knows what you REALLY like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 02:22:54 2010 No.6697408 File: 48 KB, 370x523, 1277316549360.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6696671 Mana Khemia is fucking awesome. Great characters overall. Out of the Atelier series, I enjoyed Atelier Iris 2 the best.

>>	Your Favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok Mon Dec 27 02:46:54 2010 No.6697498 atelier totori is the best atelier gameplay wise

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 02:51:54 2010 No.6697514 File: 200 KB, 819x1099, ab564b45514256b5e9c3f6e59d40f498.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6688840 I've downloaded and played AT 1 & 2 since the last thread popped up here and now I'm here to join the Jakuri fanclub. The sexiest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 02:51:54 2010 No.6697518 >>6697514 DAT JAKURI

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 06:00:54 2010 No.6698071 >>6697498 Well you have to remember that Totori is the latest game so that's not really a surprise. It's not for everyone though, sadly. Which is fine for me as it means I get Totori and Mimi to myself. Image so very related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 06:01:54 2010 No.6698075 File: 215 KB, 700x900, 13355842a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6698071 Suppose it helps if I attach the image.

Anonymous Mon Dec 27 06:17:54 2010 No.6698128

Talking about Mana Khemia, how do I make the ultimate items for each character? You know, the ones that you get recipes from the secret dungeon. I already made one for Vayne, Roxis and Anna but I can't synthesize Pamela's diamond claw or whatever it's called even though I already have all the required ingredients. What else do I need to do?

Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎＢangkok Mon Dec 27 06:22:54 2010 No.6698156

>>6698071
Also because Atelier Rorona sold like hotcakes they decided to invest immensely into making Totori.

Honestly for me I find rorona being very mediocre and totori very good. If I gave Rorona a 4/10 i'll give Totori a 7/10. (low score because i don't use bullshit 7-10 scale)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 06:25:54 2010 No.6698173 >>6697514 Oh boy, another new person completely ignoring the obviously superior love interest and heroine, Cynthia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 06:27:54 2010 No.6698187 >>6698173 Yes, we get it, your tastes are so refined and different, setting you apart from the mainstream. Can you drop spamming a side character no one cares about now?

>>	Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎＢangkok Mon Dec 27 06:29:54 2010 No.6698196 >>6698187 dont you talk shit about mai another waifu

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 06:34:54 2010 No.6698218 File: 125 KB, 800x1132, 1281434382939.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6698187 Take it easy there, have some Shitframe.

Anonymous Mon Dec 27 06:36:54 2010 No.6698222

>>6698187
You seem to be under the impression that I consider my tastes to be above everyone elses'. I'm not sure how you got that impression, but I'm sorry I came across that way. However, I can hardly see how posting Cynthia a few times in this thread while dropping her name incredibly sparingly in the other AT threads constitutes spamming. Is it so bad that I just want other people to appreciate a character that I came to like so much? Should we always just post the main characters to the exclusion of any extraneous characters?

It was nice of you to assume that I liked the character just to be different, though. You know, as opposed to growing attached to her personality through the weapon shop events (of which there really are quite a few). Now then, if you can forgive me for the grave transgression of posting something related to Cynthia 5 times in a single thread, can we go back to taking it easy?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:06:54 2010 No.6698648 File: 315 KB, 1200x1700, 13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] sorry for requesting this here, but /r/ is as useful as ever for things that don't involve dickgirls or other kinds of porn, but can some kind soul provide the AT3 DLC?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:10:54 2010 No.6698661 File: 355 KB, 1200x1660, 10.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just leaving these here

>>	Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎＢangkok Mon Dec 27 09:10:54 2010 No.6698662 >>6698648 for the jailbroken game? i honestly don't think there exists one on the internet due to it still not being released outside japan.

Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:13:54 2010 No.6698669
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>>6698662
i was kind of hoping for a more positive answer than that, but if that's how it is then that's how it is... however if anyone can help me out, i'd give them a lifetime supply of free internets

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:14:54 2010 No.6698672 File: 336 KB, 1200x1861, 12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] just leaving this here

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:16:54 2010 No.6698679 File: 287 KB, 1200x1672, 15.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] leaving this one here too

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:21:54 2010 No.6698695 File: 280 KB, 1920x1080, moe 147190 ar_tonelico ar_tonelico_3 game_cg swimsuits.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i hate flood detection

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:22:54 2010 No.6698698 File: 360 KB, 1920x1080, moe 147197 ar_tonelico ar_tonelico_3 bodysuit game_cg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] another AT3 pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:23:54 2010 No.6698704 File: 381 KB, 840x1070, moe 149991 ar_tonelico ar_tonelico_3 bra dress halloween loli panty_pull see_through soma uni8 wet_clothes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] some soma

>>	Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎＢangkok Mon Dec 27 09:23:54 2010 No.6698708 >>6698698 best ending

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:38:54 2010 No.6698739 Are there any other games that this guy has drawn art for

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 09:43:54 2010 No.6698749 File: 1.79 MB, 2144x2992, Ar Tonelico II Artbook -4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6698739 nagi ryou is the ar tonelico artist, he's done the art for all 3 games

>>	Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎＢangkok Mon Dec 27 09:44:54 2010 No.6698756 >>6698749 i heard the guy's either chinese or taiwanese or something is that true?

Anonymous Mon Dec 27 10:09:54 2010 No.6698822

>>6698698

My own administrator in a box, a dream come true. Can I get it in Shurelia flavour?

>>6698756

I'm 99% sure he's Japanese. Taking a look at his work though I must say it's amazing how much he has improved over the years, I really do like his art style.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 10:14:39 2010 No.6698840 >>6698749 no shit. games other than this series

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 10:32:54 2010 No.6698876 he did a bunch of art for some card games and stuff or at least i think that's what is in the doujinshi from c78 sitting next to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 13:21:54 2010 No.6699602 >>6698876 Yep, he's done quite a few other works actually that you can probably download by Googling his name.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 18:32:54 2010 No.6701039 File: 312 KB, 1680x1050, Karulu Village.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] age

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 18:47:54 2010 No.6701113 File: 440 KB, 1106x1320, 14510159.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So delicious.

>>	Anomynous Mon Dec 27 18:50:54 2010 No.6701130 >>6701113 WHAT HAS MUSIC DONE

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 21:22:54 2010 No.6701842 File: 161 KB, 939x949, 23aec1a4e9e3a04569f6c171f51d285add61453d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6701113 Posting more delicious Jakuri to balance out... whatever that thing is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 21:22:54 2010 No.6701843 >>6701130 Unfortunately this isn't a case of MUSIC but rather Finnel eating too many funbuns with BBQ Soda.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 21:23:54 2010 No.6701851 File: 195 KB, 568x448, 1275351448957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 27 21:25:54 2010 No.6701860 File: 356 KB, 598x800, 7326f763fa9f7d6d3e3d6d59000b5ff769cba64b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 00:45:54 2010 No.6703035 File: 1.06 MB, 996x1370, ArTonelico.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 00:47:54 2010 No.6703049 >>6701851 >dad walks in

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 11:18:19 2010 No.6703049,1 Looks like this other janitor doesn't mind Ar Tonelico.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 14:10:54 2010 No.6703686 File: 322 KB, 800x1000, 1283032680892.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 14:19:54 2010 No.6703704 Damn. I... I guess I might as well play this then, if you've made it so easy. I do enjoy Shikata Akiko.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 14:27:54 2010 No.6703719 File: 851 KB, 1920x1080, wp_02_1920.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So I bought a ps3, only to play Gust games. You can laugh now.

>>	Anomynous Tue Dec 28 14:49:54 2010 No.6703809 File: 49 KB, 430x1100, at-misha-arsellec-lune4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's so nice to see these threads again

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 14:53:54 2010 No.6703821 File: 391 KB, 800x608, 6ac8521b5871e0485b90d0416d07d3ac.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6703719 I can't. Because I'm about to do the same thing...

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Tue Dec 28 16:02:54 2010 No.6704260 Mana Khemia isn't supposed to crash the minute you leave campus, is it? That seems like pretty poor game design if you ask me. Is this an issue where the iso needs patching, or did I just download a bad iso to begin with, or what?

Anonymous Tue Dec 28 16:05:54 2010 No.6704279

>>6704260
I played it on the PS2, and I never encountered anything of the sort. The only bug I know of was in MK2, in the first job you can take (against a miniboss). Also in Atelier Iris 1, it kept freezing after the credits and I couldn't go to the extra dungeon.

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Tue Dec 28 16:17:54 2010 No.6704383 >>6704279 ...well, I don't have a PS2, this was on pcsx2. But since I can't find any reports of my problem on the Internet in a quick google search, I'll take that to mean my iso is corrupt or something and download a different one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 16:18:54 2010 No.6704394 >>6704260 I seem to remember it was a frequent problem requiring a patch, try looking up the pcsx2 forums.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 16:19:54 2010 No.6704411 >>6704383 Well the off-campus problems was fixed ages ago. You are probably using a very old version of PCSX2. http://www.emucr.com/2010/12/pcsx2-svn-r4160.html

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Tue Dec 28 16:22:54 2010 No.6704461 >>6704411 I'm using an svn version (wow, that sounds redundant) compiled six months ago actually. It should include the gustfix. It wouldn't hurt to update, though, I guess.

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Tue Dec 28 16:45:54 2010 No.6704802 Well, it works now. That's strange, considering this was fixed years ago, but I won't complain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 17:51:54 2010 No.6705505 This game isn't terrible, so thanks, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 21:09:54 2010 No.6706576 >>6703049 Reading that reminded me of something. What images show up on the jp version of AT2 when you press the "panic button"? In the english version, there was only a black screen with the AT2 logo in the corner.

>>	B-2 !!rZbN7AV2Ai+ Tue Dec 28 21:38:01 2010 No.6706687 ./

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 22:47:54 2010 No.6707009 >>6706576 Hahaha, that was a panic button? I always wondered what the point of it was.

>>	Anomynous Tue Dec 28 23:54:54 2010 No.6707340 File: 111 KB, 1200x803, LIVING THE DREAM.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6707009 certainly no reason for a panic button in these games

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 28 23:55:54 2010 No.6707350 >>6707340 Oh my god. I... I would kill to live in that room.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 00:09:54 2010 No.6707434 >>6707350 all you need is a wall and a projector and some curtains if applicable

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 00:23:54 2010 No.6707496 >>6707434 It looks like a pretty pricey projector, at that quality. But privacy would be the scarce resource, with speakers like that.

>>	Anomynous Wed Dec 29 00:32:54 2010 No.6707528 >>6707496 The rewards of owning your own home.

>>	Ayashiro !Hime2512LA Wed Dec 29 01:22:54 2010 No.6707676 Wouldn't it be nice if high-resolution projectors didn't cost $1000? I saw a 480p one for ~$80, but really there's no point in getting a projector at such low res.

>>	B-2 !!rZbN7AV2Ai+ Wed Dec 29 02:09:04 2010 No.6707891 *-

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 06:50:39 2010 No.6707891,1 Urgh, 4chan still timing out for me. Be sure to keep the thread bumped, you are permitted to use image bumps if need be.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 08:35:54 2010 No.6709136 >>6706576 Which button is the panic button for AT2?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 08:39:54 2010 No.6709146 >>6707676 Isn't that the standard price for HD televisions anyways? At least with this you can enlarge to your liking.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 09:07:54 2010 No.6709207 >>6709136 Select?

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 15:10:54 2010 No.6710319 >>6709146 Depends really, 32-40" TVs barely cost anything these days. Also a projector requires quite a bit of space so it's not exactly an option for some people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 15:16:54 2010 No.6710335 projector is worth as big as your largest wall is (or screen) >>6707496 you can output your ps3 to headphones via a receiver or external amp or other such input (using a rca to 3.5mm connector as needed)

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 18:43:54 2010 No.6711387 >>6710335 Which is why I said it's not an option for some people unless you've either got a job which isn't really happening on /jp/ or your parents are quite well off.

>>	Anonymous Wed Dec 29 23:37:54 2010 No.6712849 Any word on AT/Totori doujins being released at Comiket?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 00:23:54 2010 No.6713070 File: 514 KB, 707x800, Oyakita.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 02:43:54 2010 No.6713844 >>6713070 I don't get it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 02:58:23 2010 No.6713916 >>6696907 but some of the character ending are disappointing, especially on Mana Khemia 2

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 06:57:54 2010 No.6714730

I have some questions regarding AT 2:
In status:
What means MD-Resist, Burst Variation, Harmonics and Reduce and what are their effects? Which should I priorize?
There's a graph with one green line and a moving brown curved line, what they represent (I assume they're related to harmonics and burst variation)
Dualithnode baths:
Do reyvateils move in a random pattern or it can be predicted? Advices to maximize effects for these baths, as it seems they last only until the next bath.
Do topics affect ties with the partner? How to increase them? The correspondent dualithnode cystals seem to have no effect (Always remains on Normal)
I know dialogues between reyvateils affect sync. What effect it has on battle?
Besides unlocking cosmospheres, do topics between the MC and a reyvateil have any other effect?
In Battle mode, during Attack Phase, how do I change targets with the Vanguards? They seem to attack randomly.

If there's a wiki for AT2 explaining game mechanics better than the tutorial, please give me the link. I only found walkthroughs in gameFAQs.
Thanks.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 07:10:54 2010 No.6714746

>>6714730
>Up boosts harmonics. It does something else (boosts attack, I think; it might have been necessary for level 2, 3, and EX vanguard attacks; you should be able to look it up in the in-game help), but the big effects are that its required for replekia (which you'll get later) and sync magic. (which you can do when the two reyvatails that are active are at 20% sync)
>Down boosts psych (which raises defense, IIRC), but once again, the big effect here is that its required for sync magic.
>Left boosts the burst rate, which effects how much damage a spell does.
>Right recovers a reyvatail's mp once you max out the dimond segment for the current round.
>sync attack = one big, long wavelength. Both are at max height (harmonics) and max length (psych).

as for the baths, it's random, but you can try to influence it by using accessories like the rubber duck.
Bath topics have set conditions that spring the conversations, look them up on gamefaqs.
Sync'd reyvateils means a bigger boost to harmonics/burst all all that.
I think a few select topics give you items? They're few and far between though, it's mostly just that, talk more with your heroine of choice.
Enter the battle menu (triangle, was it?), you can choose the enemy from there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 07:13:54 2010 No.6714749 File: 378 KB, 1482x576, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] After I saw this thread the other day I went nuts and ended up doing this.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 07:16:54 2010 No.6714756
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>>6714730
I can't answer most of the questions, I'll tackle these.

>I know dialogues between reyvateils affect sync. What effect it has on battle?
Makes it easier to synchronize and cast a combination song magic. Of course you'll need to keep doing ↓ attacks for it to happen.

>Besides unlocking cosmospheres, do topics between the MC and a reyvateil have any other effect?
No those are just events to keep you entertained.

>In Battle mode, during Attack Phase, how do I change targets with the Vanguards? They seem to attack randomly.
Press triangle and choose your target from the menu.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 07:30:07 2010 No.6714788 [DELETED]

>>6714730
>Do reyvateils move in a random pattern or it can be predicted? Advices to maximize effects for these baths, as it seems they last only until the next bath.

It's random, but I found a place where Jakuri had some good chances of swimming over 7~9 of the crystals while Cloche and Luca would swim over 3~5 of them. I'll try explaining it on the best way possible, and you can try variations, because I didn't try anything else when this started getting the best results for me:

The bath the bath is a 5x5 square, if I'm not wrong.

- Cloche was placed on the bottom right corner, the one closest to the bottom of the screen.
-The 3 crystals meant for her would be placed next to her, on a straight line to the left.

- Luca would start on the bottom and the second square counting from the left.
- Her crystals were on a straight line up.

- And Jakuri was on the right side, on the 3rd vertical square.
- Her crystals also were on a straight line for the left of her.

- Then I would place a toy right between the end of Cloche's and Jakuri's lines of crystals.

Most of the time, they will go straight for the toy, but there are other times, were one or two of the Reyvateils would make a run through most of the crystals. My endgame Jakuri had the bonus of 8 crystals and Cloche had 6.

As for the bath conversations, even when you meet the conditions, there are only some chances that it will happen. I only had some of the first chapters conversations during the fifth chapter, even when I was aiming for them since the beginning of the game.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 07:32:54 2010 No.6714790

>>6714730
>Do reyvateils move in a random pattern or it can be predicted? Advices to maximize effects for these baths, as it seems they last only until the next bath.

It's random, but I found a place where Jakuri had some good chances of swimming over 7~8 of the crystals while Cloche and Luca would swim over 3~6 of them. I'll try explaining it on the best way possible, and you can try variations, because I didn't try anything else when this started getting the best results for me:

The bath is a 5x5 square, if I'm not wrong.

- Cloche was placed on the bottom right corner, the one closest to the bottom of the screen.
-The 3 crystals meant for her would be placed next to her, on a straight line to the left.

- Luca would start on the bottom and the second square counting from the left.
- Her crystals were on a straight line up.

- And Jakuri was on the right side, on the 3rd vertical square.
- Her crystals also were on a straight line for the left of her.

- Then I would place a toy right between the end of Cloche's and Jakuri's lines of crystals.

Most of the time, they will go straight for the toy, but there are other times, were one or two of the Reyvateils would make a run through most of the crystals. My endgame Jakuri had the bonus of 8 crystals and Cloche had 6.

As for the bath conversations, even when you meet the conditions, there are only some chances that it will happen. I only had some of the first chapters conversations during the fifth chapter, even when I was aiming for them since the beginning of the game.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 08:51:54 2010 No.6714973

>>6714730

I may be wrong here since I haven't played AT2 in a while..

MD-Resist reduces the MP consumption of songs
Burst Variation
Higher harmonics means you need less attacks in order to level them up each turn
Burst Variation is how fast your songs charge and how much you get from using burst attacks (holding left)
And I believe reduce lets you keep more burst when you change song magic from a support/healing one to a damage one forgot the colours, I think healing/support is blue and attack is red
The graph represents how well they manage to perform in regards to their burst speed and such for example they can start of slow and gradually build up very fast or some such. The names of the stuff around the graph should be coloured which is what the lines on the graph represent.
They move randomly in baths but you can use crystals and unlimited amount of times so it's no big deal. If you want to make the game easy mode then let your dirty reyvateils bath with every crystal you obtain from shops etc. as each crystal gives them a permanent level up.. they'll probably have more HP than your front row vanguards after a while which is kind of depressing.
Talk topic do affect your ties with a partner as you'll need a certain amount of talk topics before you can dive into the reyvateil's next cosmosphere level. I believe you can get to level 5 with all girls and only one girl can go further than that as the other 2 get friend zoned. The further you dive the more song magic you uncover so it's recommended to bring all 3 to level 5 whenever possible.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 08:52:54 2010 No.6714977

>>6714973

The sync rate between reyvateils is for their combo attacks which you can perform as long as the song magic has a combo effect available (unlockable via cosmosphere) which you're able to perform when your wavelength in fights is exactly aligned. Don't focus too much on this, the little animation for it is nice but the vast majority of stuff will die before you can even manage to get your wavelength aligned together..
Nope, talk topics are there so you can progress into the cosmosphere.
You can press triangle I think which brings up a menu that lets you select which targets to attack (weakest first, specific targets etc.) I believe it's in the same menu as the item menu.

Fucking field too long..

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 09:42:54 2010 No.6715118

I'm having a tough choice between Jacqli's route and Cloche's route. I'm at Cloche's Phase 3 and have not completed her level 5 cosmosphere yet. Jacqli seems to have better red magic (I've just unlocked Deadly Deathlene) but Cloche has Replakia.
It's my 1st playthrough, who should I choose?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 09:43:54 2010 No.6715123 >>6715118 Cloche is hotter.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 09:49:54 2010 No.6715144 File: 228 KB, 707x1000, 6160bb0748767a0ac9bd0f2d6cdf7d47.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715118 Jacqli, you fool! You can still use Replakia like nobody's business, so that alone shouldn't be a reason to choose Cloche.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 09:51:54 2010 No.6715152
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>>6715118
You can either complete your favorite heroine's story and do another playthrough or stop at level 5 and complete their Cosmosphere just before the final boss.

I can assure you all of their later Cosmospheres are really worth the time.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 09:57:54 2010 No.6715168

>>6715118
Do you want to see the commonly accepted canon story first or have a thing for old-type tsundere (not really the bipolar bullshit that's popular nowadays)? play Cloche
Do you want the best heroine or have a thing for mayadere? play Jacqli

unless you're really set on replaying the game though (which can be quite time-confusing), I'd choose Jacqli of the two, since Cloche and Luca get their character development naturally by plot even if you leave them alone, while Jacqli doesn't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 11:55:54 2010 No.6715662 File: 74 KB, 1280x720, Tilia~.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Obligatory. >>6715152 >Pastatits taking a shit in the woods God damn it, Japan.

>>	Yｏur ｆavorite Aｎonymous thaｔ liｖes iｎＢangkok Thu Dec 30 12:02:54 2010 No.6715697 replekia + mule's magic = 99999 damage

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 12:24:54 2010 No.6715822 File: 96 KB, 600x837, 37607b3f125d1029ffffb3dff6f0da3c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715697 99999 damage? Please stop slandering my waifu like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 12:27:54 2010 No.6715833 >>6715697 He only does 99999 damage!

>>	Mir Teiwaz Artonelico !Mir0hpNNP. Thu Dec 30 13:51:54 2010 No.6716276 File: 99 KB, 500x698, 5e8bbfdc46e9ca1f9c19f667664ef263.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6715822 _Your_ waifu? You must've missed something there.

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 13:56:54 2010 No.6716299

This looks good, I don't usually torrent things but I think this is worth it. What torrent client should I be using though? I see so many like Deluge, Tribler, Aria2, µTorrent, TorrentFlux and others that I have no idea what I should be using to pick up torrents.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 13:57:54 2010 No.6716304 "waifu claiming" discussions, so good

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 14:03:54 2010 No.6716339 >>6716276 We know, she is /jp/'s waifu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 14:04:54 2010 No.6716340 >>6716299 Do you want DDL?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 14:09:54 2010 No.6716377 >>6716340 The direct download links are probably out there, I just figured it's time I start torrenting especially since, if I do, I can help seed torrents for other people. So I'm asking about which torrent client I should be using.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 14:46:54 2010 No.6716600 >>6716377 I don't have any problems with utorrent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 14:54:54 2010 No.6716660 >>6716600 Sounds good, the overview for that one says it has adware and an optional ask.com toolbar. The optional toolbar isn't bad, but adware?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 15:01:54 2010 No.6716714 >>6716660 I remove all that crap when I install it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 17:15:54 2010 No.6717378 >>6713844 Those are the screens that appear when you press the panic button in AT3.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 17:39:54 2010 No.6717556 Anyone know if Nagi is releasing a new SEC doujin for C79?

Anonymous Thu Dec 30 18:07:54 2010 No.6717741
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>>6716276
>>6715822
>>6716339

And this is why I tend to stay clear of Jakuri, 99% of people will 'claim' her when there's other delicious girls going unnoticed, image very related.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 18:08:54 2010 No.6717747 >>6717556 he's releasing two i put them as part of a purchase order

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 18:30:54 2010 No.6717905 Hey there, I'm the guy who wanted to know if the PS2 emulator would work fine in my machine a couple of threads ago. It didn't, 42 FPS max, with 30 in general. Any tips in how to configure the emulator, or choosing the bios?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 18:34:54 2010 No.6717927 >>6717905 Try the speedhacks in the options, I could enable them all without any bad effects.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 18:34:54 2010 No.6717931 >>6717905 Enable some speedhacks, lower resolution, disable AA...

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 18:44:54 2010 No.6717976 >>6717905 here >>6717927 >>6717931 Will try, and report back

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 30 22:04:54 2010 No.6719429 >>6717976 If you're using the GSdx plugin then I believe pressing F5 will change your current filter, it can increase your FPS considerably though if you have it completely disabled the game looks terrible

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 07:05:54 2010 No.6723438 File: 292 KB, 1200x834, Oh god Frelia is moe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Have you HHHHNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG'd today, Anonymous?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 08:43:54 2010 No.6724077 File: 276 KB, 879x834, 1282416628496.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6723438 I wish to be part of the people who bullied Frelinlinlin.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 10:33:54 2010 No.6724762 File: 500 KB, 470x627, large_12804023074c516383698ad.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6724077 How can you bully the embodiment of pure moe?

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 10:35:54 2010 No.6724770 File: 90 KB, 500x500, 500x500.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anomynous Fri Dec 31 11:11:54 2010 No.6725018 File: 1000 KB, 2000x2000, I am a bad person.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6724770

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 11:21:54 2010 No.6725094 >>6725018 HAHAHA, OH WOW. I got a chuckle out of that, well played.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 13:08:54 2010 No.6725729 File: 2.72 MB, 3000x3000, 3000x3000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6725018 Only 2000x2000? I'm disappointed.

Anomynous Fri Dec 31 13:13:54 2010 No.6725759

>>6725729
I have actually considered working on upscaling it, but I'm horrible with gradients, and this image is full of them. Cleaning the jpeg artifacting and the flat color stuff I can do, but upscaling parts like the wet clothing, Saki's slip, or the fishnet stockings is just beyond my limited ability.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 14:00:54 2010 No.6726061 you just need to vector it

Anomynous Fri Dec 31 14:43:54 2010 No.6726406
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>>6726061
It really isn't that simple. Vectoring works by finding discreet color regions and vectorizing their shape. This gives you large regions of flat color like you see in this image here (not my work). Gradients usually survive the automated vectoring process poorly because of this. To do a vector upscale of the image results in a chop job quality version of the image. To do a proper upscale of 500x500.jpg will require someone with some actual photoshop skills and a fair amount of time to reproduce the image in a larger size.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 14:45:54 2010 No.6726425 >>6726406 Jesus Christ. The one time I see someone use "discreet" on the internet, and they use it when they mean "discrete". You know what, I'll let this one slide, just because you seem to actually know the word "discreet".

>>	Anomynous Fri Dec 31 15:06:54 2010 No.6726634 File: 484 KB, 828x829, vectorbleh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6726425 Damn it. Anyway, case in point: cheap online autovector results in "hurts to live" tier product

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 15:08:54 2010 No.6726657 >>6726634 Sadly it still looks better than the upscaled product.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 18:22:54 2010 No.6728308 File: 917 KB, 1240x1754, 9558222.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The world needs more Zun!bar-chan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 19:26:54 2010 No.6728906 Huh. This thread still lives?

>>	Anomynous Fri Dec 31 20:09:54 2010 No.6729228 >>6728906 We have already bumped this thread six times and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

Anonymous Fri Dec 31 20:32:54 2010 No.6729398

>>6729228

I had thought Ar Tonelico threads had died off for good a couple months back. Nice to see it's back, even though I can't read too deeply because I haven't played AT 2 and 3 yet.

I have beaten AT 1 though, on Aurica's path. Now I'm in the middle of Misha's path. Is it just me or is Misha and Lyner's interaction a lot less romantically-oriented than Aurica and Lyner's? He sure seemed to be in a hurry to have her sing forever to keep Mir at bay, too, until he got told off. And even then.

But I'm still in the middle of Phase 2, have to find the materials to repair the airship (gotta remember to make another save in case the bug attacks) so maybe things change. But this is getting sad especially since I liked Misha the most of the three girls (Aurica's a close second).

>>	Anonymous Fri Dec 31 20:38:54 2010 No.6729446 Has anyone seen the Spica/Claire Musical Vocal Best CD yet? It was supposed to be out on 12/22, but no one's posted anything for it, which is strange--usually someone posts the AT related stuff pretty quickly.

>>	Anomynous Fri Dec 31 20:59:54 2010 No.6729605 >>6729398 Sometimes saving the world comes before saving your loved ones. But yeah, he did seem a bit too eager. I'm not sure if it's just a translation issue losing the serious element of his request or just the typical male harem lead idiocy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 00:12:54 2011 No.6730965 >>6729446 I haven't been able to find it yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 00:51:54 2011 No.6731164 File: 99 KB, 523x740, sec0900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] nagi's c79

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 00:53:54 2011 No.6731175 File: 146 KB, 523x740, pro0200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] and a short comic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 01:54:54 2011 No.6731475 >>6731164 >>6731175 Is that original content?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 05:53:54 2011 No.6732710 >>6731475 I think it's a mixture of things, the cover would suggest Code Geass but I can't really say what else is in it since I can't read runes. The second looks to be OC unless I'm mistaken which is entirely possible since I just woke up..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 09:19:54 2011 No.6733469 File: 40 KB, 503x418, StillWaiting.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6731164 I'm still waiting Mixture Graph to be scanned

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 12:18:54 2011 No.6734099 >>6729446 Huh, I'd have thought at least someone from the Reyvateil's Melody forum would have uploaded it by now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 12:43:54 2011 No.6734225 >>6729446 You could wait for skyvatilia to rip it, he got his copy the last time I check his blog. Also, Atelier Viorate for the PSP. Chances of localization?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 13:46:54 2011 No.6734583 >>6734225 NIS do PSP games so there's probably a good chance they'll pick it up assuming Rorona and/or Totori sell well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 14:08:54 2011 No.6734712 >>6734583 Atelier Rorona sold well for a non-Final Fantasy JRPG. I heard it sold just a bit more than Japan.

Anonymous Sat Jan 1 14:50:54 2011 No.6734937

Oh wow. I've been going to easymodo and see how long the Ar Tonelico chain is (the last one I remember being where it was decided that AT General should stop for a while, I remember my post being something like "So that's it for AT General?"). I didn't realize there were soooo many. This is how far back the chain goes on my end:

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4528218

March 2010. It's gonna take ages to read all these threads. Well, I probably won't, but as I skimmed through each of these I saw some interesting Ar Tonelico 1-related discussions (the only AT I've played so far, just have to complete Misha's route to beat it completely), so... yeah. Damn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 17:27:54 2011 No.6736072 Downloaded and marathoned AT2 Jacqli end at 18/24 speed. Thank you anon for this christmas delivery.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 17:43:54 2011 No.6736206 There's no damn jobs to be had around here... Want to play AT3 when it comes out, but I don't have a ps3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 17:45:54 2011 No.6736228 >>6736206 same here. i plan to buy one in 2015 when i save enough money

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 19:31:54 2011 No.6736855 >>6736206 >>6736228 Socially awkward people are the ones most hurt by unemployment given that we are automatically excluded whenever a normalfag signs up for the same job as us.

>>	Anomynous Sat Jan 1 19:41:54 2011 No.6736929 >>6736855 Learn to fake it.

Anonymous Sat Jan 1 19:55:54 2011 No.6737015

I'm not the only one who likes the english voice acting in Ar Tonelico 1, right? I mean, it's not perfect, and some of the acting bad (out-of-Linkage Shurelia in battle is the worst), but I found the acting pretty decent. And the voice actors themselves (or at least the particular voices they used) are either unheard of or not commonly used.

I haven't heard AT 2's yet. And we'll know how AT 3's dub sounds when it comes out in March.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 20:14:54 2011 No.6737106 >>6737015 Man-Shurelia makes me sad. Honestly I care very little for dubs and AT1 was no different but to each their own, good sir.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 21:24:54 2011 No.6737551 >>6736929 I've been trying, but it seems that they catch me easily, because they never call back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 23:19:54 2011 No.6738274 >>6737551 And this is why I gladly get easily gained government benefits. There's really very little work available and the few jobs that are advertised have hundreds of people going for them, it really is just a waste of time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 1 23:21:54 2011 No.6738286 >>6737015 i loved shurelia's voice, same VA as fuuka from persona

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 04:51:54 2011 No.6740102 File: 190 KB, 1024x607, 1269559562135.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6738286 >i loved shurelia's voice Well that's a first.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 05:18:54 2011 No.6740194 >>6738274 Unfortunately, that's not an option on the shitty part of the EU where I live.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 11:04:54 2011 No.6741105 >>6740194 Then you have my condolences.

Anonymous Sun Jan 2 11:19:54 2011 No.6741155

I'm about to choose a route in at1. Who has the most interesting one, Aurica or Misha? Which route has more plot and info about what's going on? Aurica seems like the official route since her silouette appears in the starting screen but I don't personally like her.

>>	Anomynous Sun Jan 2 11:44:54 2011 No.6741250 >>6741155 Make a save. Go Misha. Do Aurica's later.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 11:45:54 2011 No.6741253 >>6741155 I haven't done Aurica's route so I can't comment on that but Misha's route puts heavy emphasis on the main story and how retarded Lyner is at times.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 12:38:54 2011 No.6741490 >>6741155 Just make a save and go with the heroine you're most interested in (Misha in this case), IIRC both routes have plenty enough emphasis on the main story and Lyner being an insensitive idiot to go around.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 14:56:54 2011 No.6742358 Another question. I completed Misha's level 6 cosmosphere and have noticed I can't equip the costumes unlocked in level 5 and 6, only two are available: magical shover and sheep sweets, besides the standard. Is this a bug?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 14:57:54 2011 No.6742371 >>6742358 You think those would fit on loli Misha's body ?

>>	Anomynous Sun Jan 2 14:57:54 2011 No.6742372 >>6742358 It isn't bugged, it's story related Adult/Loli Misha have different costume sets

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 14:59:54 2011 No.6742385 >>6742358 No, you can equip all the costumes only after Misha gets her song back from Tenba, until then you're stuck with only two costumes.

Anonymous Sun Jan 2 15:49:54 2011 No.6742774

>>6741155

Save to an extra slot like others have said, then reload from that slot when you beat the game. (On second playthrough you could just cheat your way so you can get through it faster.)

Aurica's route seems to have a little more to do with the main story, Misha's route seems a bit more personal, at least that's what I've seen so far as I'm playing Misha's route. Minor spoiler, each route has their own major boss, you won't find out where the heck the other major boss disappears to until you play the other. It's assumed the other group took care of him. So when you think, "Where the hell did that guy go?", now you know.

Anonymous Sun Jan 2 22:03:54 2011 No.6745489

>>6742358

You can return to the building with the machine that made her an adult again and simply turn her back into a loli. Actually if you keep doing this numerous times you get a talk topic with her where she states that she knew you were a pedophile or something to that extent.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 2 22:53:54 2011 No.6745770 >>6745489 I love how almost every character calls Lyner a lolicon/pedo.

Anonymous Mon Jan 3 00:13:54 2011 No.6746103
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Infel is such a delicious tsundere... Something good will happen on Saturday, so I hope you've all played AT2. But it seems like everyone's playing AT1 all of a sudden; I ought to go finish my Misha phase 3 save. Kinda sad how I was all "Hm, Misha seems more interesting, so I guess I'll finish Aurica first and save the best for last" and then never got around to finishing Misha's route... The same thing happened in AT2, though I guess it's more of a "wow, Luca seems kinda insane and I'm really, really curious why, so let's go finish Cloche's route first..." And then Jakuri happened.

>>6745770
Him and Jack. I mean, with Lyner showing up with Misha, and Lyra fawning over Jack, it's pretty much unavoidable!

Anonymous Mon Jan 3 00:18:54 2011 No.6746131

>>6746103

Yeah, I'm still on AT 1 myself. Will get to AT 2 when I'm done with it.

I kinda want to go with Cloche first. Will going for Cloche's route spoil what's up with Luca? Because everyone goes on and on about how much of a bitch she is and I'm curious why, but I don't want to end up getting some half-arsed explanation like "Oh, it's because of this, now let's move on" in the middle of Cloche's route and ruin the surprise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 00:22:54 2011 No.6746146 File: 62 KB, 364x355, Untitled5 (2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I got caught playing this game by my sister. She probably thinks I'm a pedophile.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 00:34:54 2011 No.6746215 >>6746103 Why does the font look different?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 00:38:54 2011 No.6746233 >>6746146 Probably slowpoking but what character is that?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 00:44:54 2011 No.6746266 >>6746233 She's from a different game http://vndb.org/v710

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 00:49:54 2011 No.6746292 >>6746266 Ah, that game. I really need to get into that one day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 04:02:54 2011 No.6747262 >>6746215 It's from the Toukousphere Issue 100 flash segment.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 04:24:54 2011 No.6747365 >>6747262 Oh.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 07:32:54 2011 No.6747945 >>6746131 >Because everyone goes on and on about how much of a bitch she is and I'm curious why It's just trolling, don't pay too much attention.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 10:16:54 2011 No.6748475 File: 308 KB, 1280x960, snap070.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6745770 It's like they really know their target audience.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 15:36:54 2011 No.6749859 >>6747945 It's not really though. The whole 'Luca is a whore and slut' thing is but she really is a bitch in the game at certain points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 16:04:54 2011 No.6750003 >>6749859 Yes, if you just skim through the storyline and only look at the incriminating parts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 16:22:54 2011 No.6750091 >>6750003 Hence 'at certain points'. Once you further explore her story she's really not that bad at all.

Anonymous Mon Jan 3 16:29:54 2011 No.6750129

Does Shurelia have any costumes besides the two starting ones? I completed the second chapter of that story in the binary field and thought i'd get the maid and PE clothes.
Btw: I lol'd at Togasaki surname. Why both Mir and Shurelia use this surname in their made up stories?

>>	Anomynous Mon Jan 3 16:53:54 2011 No.6750293 >>6750129 No she doesn't. The short version is: The Binary Field is not a true Cosmosphere.

Anonymous Mon Jan 3 17:02:54 2011 No.6750356

>>6750129
>I lol'd at Togasaki surname. Why both Mir and Shurelia use this surname in their made up stories?
Togasaki means Peak of the Tower. You can see why it's related to Shurelia, and Mir is a Pure-blooded Reyvateil based on Shurelia, so she shares part of her Hymn Code.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 17:32:54 2011 No.6750552 >>6750293 In AT2 both Luca and Cloche gain costumes after completing levels of Frelia's binary field story, so that's not an explanation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 17:36:54 2011 No.6750574 >>6750552 Yeah, the Binary Field is Frelia's though, and she doesn't gain costumes by it.

Anonymous Mon Jan 3 18:44:54 2011 No.6750945

>>6750552
The interesting thing, though, is that Frelia is the only Origin that actually does have a real, functioning Cosmosphere--the only problem is that none of the Dive Machines are capable of accessing it and any human who did try to Dive into her would be more or less instantly killed. That's why she redirected everyone to the Binary Field instead.

If they do make any more AT games, it would be nice if they did a bit more with her, because she's gotten much less focus than Shurelia and Tilia. Frelia's the only Origin whose body can grow and change like a human's, and she's also the only one who has a mind and personality capable of changing and evolving like a human's: Shurelia and Tilia both have set bodies and set "personalities" (which are, in fact, just extremely advanced AIs: they can't ever change beyond what the parameters of their "personalities" are set to). I'd like to see Frelia focused on a little bit more because of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 19:21:54 2011 No.6751193 Just to confirm, the third one of these games is coming out in US in Spring this year. Similar titles such as Tales of Graces have no hope though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 19:26:54 2011 No.6751222 >>6751193 Graces has a fan translation that's making good progress.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 19:58:54 2011 No.6751422 >>6751222 I've heard you'll need to jailbreak your PS3 in order to use that though. I'm not sure I want to risk it, it's rather expensive if it breaks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 22:47:54 2011 No.6752475 >>6751422 Unfortunately it's the only option available if you want to play a translated version of Graces and/or Vesperia.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jan 3 23:27:54 2011 No.6752677 >>6752475 Is there a way to fix it like with the PSP if it fucks up?

Anonymous Tue Jan 4 04:42:27 2011 No.6754200 [DELETED]

>>6752677

I don't think there's a chance of it fucking up since the latest version forces you into an older version of firmware so you can't go online to download the newest one. I'm not really sure how it works though, I know 360's are like this and people have zero issues unless they log in which will be possible for you until you download a new update since the jailbreak forces your firmware backwards to an older patch.

Anonymous Tue Jan 4 04:45:54 2011 No.6754210

>>6752677

I don't think there's a chance of it fucking up since the latest version forces you into an older version of firmware so you can't go online to download the newest one. I'm not really sure how it works though, I know 360's are like this and people have zero issues unless they log in which wont be possible for you until you download a new update since the jailbreak forces your firmware backwards to an older patch.

tl;dr - Don't go online and you wont get caught.

Anonymous Tue Jan 4 04:57:54 2011 No.6754244

I thought /jp/ knew about this already, but its all over the interbutts, some faggot found psp(1k, 2k, 3k, go) and the ps3's "root keys" whatever the fuck that is, wait a few days or weeks and there will be a way for us to play pirated games without needing to do any hard/soft mod.
Don't really know whats going on but that's what I read anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 04:59:54 2011 No.6754247 >>6754244 http://dukio.com/gadget/mathieulh-psp-master-keys-ps3.html http://www.ps3-hacks.com/2011/01/02/the-ps3-root-keys/

Anonymous Tue Jan 4 05:15:54 2011 No.6754300

>>6751422
Ho ho ho, I take it you haven't heard of the new PS3 hacking development.

A group of crackers, buttmad over Sony taking out the OtherOS option, looked for vulnerabilities and stumbled upon the PS3's master key. Sony SHOULD have used a different key to authenticate every game or application that's published on the PS3, but they used the same one for everything. That means that any game or piece of homebrew signed with the key appears to the console as if it were official, and made by Sony themselves.
This key is so ingrained into the PS3's architecture they can never patch it out. In fact they can't get rid of it without moving on to the PS4 or rendering every app or game published until now as unplayable. The best part? Sony can't even tell who's abusing the find from who isn't.
All you have to is wait for a release of the translation signed by the key and it'll run on your PS3 without needing hacks. Official firmware may as well be Custom Firmware now, because ANYTHING can be launched as long as it's signed with the key.

Oh, and they found the PSP's master key too. No more need to worry about CFW, HEN, HBL, etc. for that either. Everything will run from OFW.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 08:30:54 2011 No.6754546 >>6754244 >>6754247 >>6754300 This pleases me considering I was getting a PS3 soon for AT3/Totori. I'll still buy them but it's nice knowing I can pirate anything else I want.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 08:38:54 2011 No.6754562 >>6754546 Well, me too, since GUST more or less bundle their games with goodies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 08:56:54 2011 No.6754597 The video of the presentation shown as the ccc congress of the latest PS3 hack can be found online

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 13:02:54 2011 No.6755263 >>6754562 I want a pair of Totori panties.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 13:10:54 2011 No.6755289 >>6754300 That's good news. I have a PSP I never hacked since I'm lazy as well. So the games will be released with this key along, just pop it on the system and play? Simple as that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 13:26:54 2011 No.6755347 >Ar Tonelico and GUST thread So I guess I can whine about Gust not giving me my Mana Khemia 3 here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 4 16:11:54 2011 No.6755996 File: 124 KB, 800x570, 1277713173477.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6755347 You will never have more delicious Anna.

Anonymous Tue Jan 4 22:05:54 2011 No.6757807
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Some guy on Pixiv made a storyboard type image for EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE/., it's pretty nice.

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=15702471

He also put it together with a video which is available in the image description.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 07:35:54 2011 No.6759602 >>6746103 >Infel is such a delicious tsundere... I'd say her tsun is a little extreme when it involves the the entire planet being sublimated..

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 08:18:54 2011 No.6759637 File: 780 KB, 1000x1400, infel_nenesha_synchronity.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6759602 That's just how she shows her love~

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 10:02:54 2011 No.6759957 I'm stuck at mana khemia week 3, in the Old Schoolhouse. It gets dark before I can reach the save and rest point, I get caught by one of the fast moving monsters and end up wiped in a a pair of turns. Any advice?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 10:08:54 2011 No.6759981 >>6759957 Stop sucking at easy games. Alternatively, you can just take the casual way and just go to an area without enemies and leave the PSP be until the morning comes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 15:22:54 2011 No.6761028 File: 412 KB, 1280x960, no infel olev.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6759637 She can keep her love.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 16:31:54 2011 No.6761131 >>6761028 That picture, man. When it came up, I stood there and stared at it for about 5 minutes. It really makes you think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 17:32:54 2011 No.6761533 A question about combo magic. Since there are no indicative values of damage, how do you know which does more? Sonata Despair, Gluttony, Lucid Slayer or Lollipop Sweets?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 17:49:54 2011 No.6761582 >>6761533 The answer is Phantasmagoria.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 17:56:54 2011 No.6761619 File: 56 KB, 722x526, whatamireading.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I was all serious and then...

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 17:57:54 2011 No.6761623

Woohoo! I finally beat Ar Tonelico 1 completely. I beat Aurica's route last week, Misha's route just today. Now I can finally move on to Ar Tonelico 2. Or some other games I need to play.

So I have a couple questions about AT2. Is the ending with the 3rd and 4th heroines different depending on whether you're on Luca's route or Cloche's route? And, are there early/fake endings and a bad ending like in AT1?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 17:58:54 2011 No.6761627 >>6761623 here Also, please tell me Croix has a brain. The "idiot hero" archetype can be funny at times, but damn does Lyner take it too far.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 18:01:54 2011 No.6761642

>>6761623
>Is the ending with the 3rd and 4th heroines different depending on whether you're on Luca's route or Cloche's route? And, are there early/fake endings and a bad ending like in AT1?
I don't think so on both cases, but I may be wrong
Also, Croix is the silent introvert type, he's not a loud idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 18:04:54 2011 No.6761658 >>6761627 Croix generally acts cool and sentient but nothing special. He's not dumb but inactive most of time. Feels more like a sidekick for main heroines.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 18:19:54 2011 No.6761749

>>6761642
>>6761658

Just as long as he acts like he has a brain up there and isn't totally oblivious to everything, he's cool with me.

Also, thanks for the responses, especially on the endings bit. Should cut down on the number of playthroughs required now th
at I know the third and fourth heroines' endings aren't different in either route.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 18:19:54 2011 No.6761750 >>6761623 The ending is the same for whichever girl's route you take. The only difference it the epilogue with whichever girl you choose. And there are no early endings.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 18:35:54 2011 No.6761837
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>>6761749

You can do 3 endings in a single playthrough if you play smartly. First make a save at Cloche/Luca (it's horribly obvious, image related) then just don't proceed to get anyone above level 5 in the cosmosphere until the final dungeon You'll know it when you see it. At this point you can continue for Cococa, dive into Jakuri, not sure why I spoilered this considering the OP image..for her ending or just go with Cloche. This then allows you to go back to your save then blitz through the game with a fully dived Cloche or Luca and thus allows you to finish off the last person you didn't dive into and the different epilogue. Also Croix is actually quite smart, he just tends to keep quiet though but he's definately a breath of fresh air after playing with Lyner's stupidity for 30ish hours.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 18:39:54 2011 No.6761856
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>>6761837

>Cococa

Shame on me, I meant Cocona. Also I meant that you should save in the last dungeon before proceeding to dive into nobody (for Cocona) then you can reload and dive into anyone else you feel like.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 18:50:54 2011 No.6761905

>>6761658
You gotta give him credit for how he handle romance though, especially compared to the generic jrpg leads ( named leads, not nameless self-inserts ).
The first time I was surprised at how early Croix can confess to one of the two main heroines, and there will be some dialogue changes based on that choice, the most important being persuading personally the heroine to get back to her body at the end of phase 2 instead of letting the other heroine do it.
Fuck the generic dumb indecisive leads, Croix knows what he wants and he gets it.
You are the leader of my corps ? BIG DEAL, call me back when you actually make me do something that isn't kidnapping little girls and getting insulted by their families. Metafalica my ass...
You made fun of my feeling and used me like a tool ? WELL FUCK YOU TOO, I don't care about your depression or reasons, some things you simply don't do.
You want to stay there because you're scared ? OH NO YOU DON'T, I like you so you will get back and if someone says something I'll give them hell.
YOU DARE TOUCH COCONA ?
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COCONA ?!
AAAAAAAAAAH

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 19:39:54 2011 No.6762129

>>6761837
>>6761856

Yeah, I think I've read that advise somewhere. That is definitely one way to cut down on playthroughs. But man, I don't know if I could do it. I mean, Ar Tonelico 1 was almost 50 hours, and I imagine AT2 to be the same. I don't know if I could hold off that long not seeing beyond somebody's Level 5 Cosmosphere till the end of the game, because the Cosmosphere is one of the most interesting things about Ar Tonelico and they're fun to play/read. I'd be itchy into continuing the Cosmosphere. Also I would gimp myself on the chosen heroine's spells*. But then again, if I do wait, it would take a hell of a lot less time, beating three endings at once quickly on one playthrough, then the last ending on the second playthrough (starting from the Big Decision). As opposed to having to restart from the Big Decision 4 times. Mmm. This is a tough decision, indeed.

Oh, I think one of you might have already answered, but if you pass somebody's Level 5 Cosmosphere, does the story dialouge change any? Like say, the group decides to take a rest, and whichever heroine's ending you're locked on into, she will have a private chat with Croix (i.e. if no Reyvateil is beyond Level 5, it's Cocona; if you're on Cloche's path and you pass Level 5 on her Cosmosphere, Cloche will have a chat with Croix, and so on). Things like that.

* As I typed that sentence with the asterisk, I now realize one of the reasons the game stops you from going too far into the Cosmosphere of the Reyvateil you don't choose. I mean, in the first game, you can go Level 10 with every heroine... which means all three get that overpowered as hell final move(s). AT 2 (and 3, from what I know) probably did the level limit thing so you won't be so hax.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 19:40:54 2011 No.6762139

>>6761905
>YOU DARE TOUCH COCONA ?
>ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT COCONA ?!
>AAAAAAAAAAH
This reminds me, I was very pissed at Amarie for the way she treated Croix when he was depressed about Cocona's sickness. "LOLOL ur a faget for getting depressed, real men have no feelings herpaderp."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 19:42:54 2011 No.6762150 The big thing I liked in AT2 was the fact that the 3rd and 4th ending don't feel entirely forced on you. In AT1, It's just thrown in your face at the very, very end. While I did feel bad for Shurelia, the way they put her in like that felt half-assed.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 19:47:54 2011 No.6762171

>>6762150
>In AT1, It's just thrown in your face at the very, very end. While I did feel bad for Shurelia, the way they put her in like that felt half-assed.

Just-beat-AT1 guy here, yeah, that was pretty dumb. I hate the way they make it guilt-trippish, too. You either, A) have a girl pour her heart out into her confession after being alone for centuries, and then go "lol nope", or B) instantly dump your girlfriend for a girl who literally just confessed in the same amount of seconds it took you to dump your girlfriend. And the post-choice scene is very, very, very little different. What the hell, Gust?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 19:48:54 2011 No.6762180 >>6762129 >Ar Tonelico 1 was almost 50 hours My run was around 30 hours. Ar Tonelico 2 was around 40 hours.

>>	Anomynous Wed Jan 5 19:59:54 2011 No.6762241 >>6762129 >AT 2 (and 3, from what I know) probably did the level limit thing so you won't be so hax. Not that it matters much. REPLEKIA is so OP it hurts and The Third Reyvatail is murderous even at level 1.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 20:03:54 2011 No.6762260

>>6762129
Actually AT3 lets you get as far as the 8th level in both heroines as far as I can recall.
But that's justified by the fact both Finnel's and Saki's cosmosphere are not normal, so the level isn't really an indication of the grade of intimacy between the partners in their case.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 21:53:54 2011 No.6762882

>>6762129

The only change that affects the dialogue is the choice between Luca and Cloche, if I recall correctly. Nothing else really changes other than the ending though depending on what you do with certain girls you'll still get random talk topics between them. And honestly don't worry about powering up the reyvateils, AT2 is ridiculously easy in regards to combat, especially if you go easy mode and overlevel your reyvateils, use guard+++ girl power and/or use Replekia. If you want a challenge I'd suggest no girl power and keeping your reyvateils dirty. Good luck and have fun in any case, it was an enjoyable experience for me.

>>6762150

I still think the AT1 ending is hilarious, at least from a Misha route point of view. Spend an entire game with a childhood friend who is clearly deeply in love with you, save her and the world and suddenly out of nowhere Shurelia confesses and Lyner happily agrees to stay with her and Misha is like "k, that's cool" like it's not a big deal. I'd be fucking raging if something like that happened in front of my eyes. I still picked Shurelia anyway because she's my waifu.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 22:03:54 2011 No.6762934

>>6762882

I hope Ar Tonelico 2 isn't TOO easy. I'd want the last boss to last more than 1 turn, for instance. AT 1 was a bit challenging if you didn't equip too many of the stronger Enhancements. I didn't use too many on my first playthrough and random encounters in the last part of the game started getting hard, and the last boss brings me down to half health or near death with every attack, and it took a while to defeat her. Then on second playthrough I messed around with Enhancements, particularly the ones that raise your stats a whole bunch, and suddenly she became almost too easy. Both times are without using Ar Tonelico/Tower Connection, by the way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 22:09:54 2011 No.6762968 >>6762934 Well it's not THAT ridiculously easy but you never really feel pressured when your reyvateils have more health than your tanks and they can easily take down bosses, especially with replekia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 22:14:54 2011 No.6762992 >>6762968 Is Replekia the equivalent of Ar Tonelico/Tower Connection or something? Because I think I can avoid using it like how I did for AT 1, except to beat the next-to-last boss of Bad Ending.

>>	Anomynous Wed Jan 5 22:30:54 2011 No.6763080 >>6762992 REPLAKIA takes a song and turbocharges it. This can be combined with any of the songs, but especially with Phantasmagoria for some late game shenanigans.

Anonymous Wed Jan 5 22:41:54 2011 No.6763120

>>6763080

Ah. So basically I just have to avoid using Replekia to keep it (more) challenging. Kind of stinks you have to artificially raise the difficulty yourself, though. I hope Ar Tonelico 3 avoids easily obtained gamebreakers. It's real-time combat this time around so we'll see how that goes.

Anomynous Wed Jan 5 22:47:54 2011 No.6763159

>>6763120
The problem with REPLAKIA is that it gets a bit old using it all the time and never quite gets its full glory because the fodder you fight has so little health the vanguard will usually finish them off before the Reyvatails are even close to being out of mana.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 5 23:16:54 2011 No.6763336 File: 419 KB, 1280x960, 1279821685353.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did someone say REPLEKIA? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt1ASvGnkVE

Anonymous Thu Jan 6 01:58:54 2011 No.6763985

>>6763159
True, but it's still great for taking down high-level IPD's before you're really supposed to be able to (especially when they have powerful self-heals), and I like the track so much I activate it pretty much whenever I have the chance to anyway.

I also find it terribly amusing that a press of button can turn a random encounter into what you'd think would be the final boss judging by the music and the background.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 03:06:54 2011 No.6764199 >>6763985 Just-beat-AT1 guy here, what dos "IPD" stand for? If it showed up in the first game, I forget.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 03:12:54 2011 No.6764217 >>6764199 Infel Phira Dependency. Basically Reyvateils who are connected to Infel Phira, only start appearing in AT2.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 03:31:54 2011 No.6764273 File: 52 KB, 500x700, 1281441210761.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I the only one on /jp/ that doesn't know what this is all about? Can I have a wiki link or something before I download some random thing?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 03:59:54 2011 No.6764355 >>6764273 It's Ar Tonelico, JRPG series by Gust. First two games are on PS2, third game is on PS3. Too tired to type up more about a series that I only played one entry of, so maybe someone else can. Also, bump limit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 04:00:54 2011 No.6764359 >>6764355 Thanks, I can take it from there, all I needed was a name.

Anonymous Thu Jan 6 05:17:54 2011 No.6764546

If AT2 is too easy for you then simply cap your level at 10*phase number for you vanguards and 3*phase number for your reyvateils.
No equip, no cheerleaders, no Shun.
Playing like that the game is actually fun and challanging cause songs can't get overpowered because of a lack of MPs, your Reyvateil's HPs stay low as it should so they NEED to be protected and Replekia/Synchronity Chain is much less overpowered.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 08:16:54 2011 No.6765077 File: 232 KB, 645x911, 15721039.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 11:21:54 2011 No.6765521 >>6765077 That Shurelia and Mir, must not fap. Wait, didn't Shurelia have small non-rude titties?

>>	Anomynous Thu Jan 6 13:18:54 2011 No.6765980 File: 5 KB, 298x298, ironing board.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6765521 >titties that small >rude Here, I found your waifu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 14:51:54 2011 No.6766350 Please link the next thread when it's made.

Anonymous Thu Jan 6 16:07:54 2011 No.6766682

I haven't played for Ar Tonelico 2 yet, but from screencaps and some posts in this thread there's one more Reyvateil named Frelia. Yet apparently she has no ending. Will I find out why she's not romancable when I play it, or is it just something the devs left out/forgot?

>>	Anomynous Thu Jan 6 16:13:54 2011 No.6766709 >>6766682 Frelia gets the boot as The Third Reyvatail in favor of a more interesting option. So no, no romancing the second tower's administrator for you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 17:16:54 2011 No.6767009 >>6766709 I see. Poor girl.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 17:52:54 2011 No.6767194 >>6767009 Frelia already has Shun. The probably screw like bunnies in the binary field.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 18:07:38 2011 No.6767194,1 Thread died on its own. I'll check occassionally in case somebody makes a new thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 22:12:41 2011 No.6767194,2 Waiting warmly for the next thread.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jan 6 23:29:42 2011 No.6767194,3 Too lazy to make another thread since the interest dropped towards the end.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 7 00:07:46 2011 No.6767194,4 Once Ar Tonelico 3 comes out these threads should definitely pick up. I hope /v/ has an interest, too, but you know how they are with nichey japanese games. Especially ones where DFC girls strip for some reason.

Anonymous Fri Jan 7 06:56:48 2011 No.6767194,5 [INTERNAL]

>Too lazy to make another thread since the interest dropped towards the end.

What? The interest for this thread has actually been surprisingly decent compared to previous threads where it'd be me bumping with images for a considerable amount of the thread. We actually got the last 50 or so replies pretty fast..

>>	Anonymous Fri Jan 7 16:07:50 2011 No.6767194,6 >Ar Tonelico 3 Please donate to the "buy me a PS3" fund

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 8 11:03:07 2011 No.6767194,7 >>6767194,6 Leech off the government for a month and you'll have more than enough for a PS3.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 8 14:09:01 2011 No.6767194,8 >>6767194,6 No, Jones.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jan 8 16:57:15 2011 No.6767194,9 >>6767194,8 :<

>>	Sakura !RAILgUnr8s Sun Jan 9 02:44:11 2011 No.6767194,10 >>6767194,6 It's too bad too, AT3 is the best AT.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jan 9 05:21:25 2011 No.6767194,11 >>6767194,10 Plus the whole master key thing giving you an endless supply of games.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 12 05:50:42 2011 No.6767194,12 Does the new mod delete AT threads?

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