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I think Erika is Yasu. To clarify, I'm just putting her in the overflowing box of personalities Yasu has up in the attic.

This theory's roots started after reading the scene where Erika dies. I noticed in her death scene that she was bleeding golden rose petals. I didn't think too much of it until a little bit after the spoilers for ep. 7 came out and went and re-read ep. 5 and came across this little beauty that I attached to the post.

Now unless someone is seriously going to argue that Erika is in her 40s, Milady refers to Jessica who is 18. It’s not much of a stretch from here to start thinking she is 19.

This was the point where I started thinking Erika could be Yasu. I gave the basic theory a run though ep.5 red starting with the red that Lambda said to Battler after Erika was introduced. Now there is a couple ways to get around Lambda’s red, Furudo Erika could have a varying decree of a fake name (ea, Ushiromya Erika, Furudo Sayo, ect. Ect.) or she is just not active at all during episodes 1-4.

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I’m terrible with symbolism and shit so I really only pulled 2 things from the 6th episode but there probably a gold mine if your good at it. First off, when Erika reveled that that she killed all the first twilight victims, she said the text in the attached picture. Now ask yourself this "Why would Erika leave behind evidence that she murdered 5 people?" Simple answer: "She knew a bomb would blow up the island and hide all evidence!"

The other point I pulled from this episode should be pretty obvious at this point. Erika didn't murder 5 people for no real reason in episode 6, she was performing the epitaph murder because no one solved the epitaph, and the game stops before we could see her do victim number 6.

As for episode 7, after reading though it, there is nothing that out right denies the theory or outright proves it.

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Now for the juicy bits that made me go from "Erika could be Yasu" to "Erika is Yasu":

There is no Red stating the location of Shannon or Kanon at all during the 5th game. White text wise, they didn't do anything meaningful and this is the only game where Gorge didn't propose to Shannon. Theres a huge possibility that Shannon and Kanon were not active at all during the 5th game.

The only other thing that really stood out for me in episode 5 was the fact that Erika was gloating about how this serial murder case would be the biggest one ever if it was completed. We even get Beato’s signature *crackle*crackle*crackle* at the end of it to drive home the gloating.

>> No.6685392

Let’s talk about who knows now. Lambda defiantly knows. If you look at the red for the dining hall Q&A scene, it really shows. When it came time to confirm the location of the people in the dining hall (where Shannon and Kanon were supposedly at), she went with “while all others were in the dining hall”. Otherwise, she didn’t utter Shannon’s or Kanon’s name once in red for that game. If the theory is true, I gotta give a hand to Lambda for being able to hide it so well from Bren.

I’m positive that Erika doesn’t know, but beyond that I’m not so sure. Probably everyone beyond Bren and Battler most likely don’t know. For Bren and Battler though, it’s a coin toss. I’m leaning towards Battler knowing and Bren not, but that’s just a feeling I have and it’s not backed up by anything.

>> No.6685394

Who?

>> No.6685395

I was going to do a rundown of what happened in episode 5 with this theory implemented but I’m to fucking tired to do it. Pretty much it was Lambda trying to save a sinking ship. Erika manipulating Natsuhi and holding Battler’s hand though the epitaph riddle. Eva scheming with the other adults against Natsuhi, with a small chance that Erika was in on it. Natsuhi scared shitless, George being fat, and Battler accusing Erika of being the man from 19 years ago and manipulating Natsuhi.

All I’m going to write about 6 is a possible solution to the logic error close room. Yasu is dressed as Kanon dragging a corpse into the room with it. Hides the corpse out of sight and kicks Battler out of the room. Kanon “dies” and Erika takes over and starts her work on the corpse.

Ok that’s the theory. Now I only have one question to ask all of you:

When Will put Clair to rest, what did she bleed?

Time for bed for me, I’ll see how badly I get ridiculed in the morning.

>> No.6685404

>>6685394
My fanfic charcter. Good night everyone and Merry X-mas.

>> No.6685416

Who the fuck is Erika?

>> No.6685421

The culprit cannot be the detective. Assuming that Yasu is the culprit, this theory falls apart immediately in the 5th game.

As for the 6th game - if Erika is Yasu, and if she's fighting to redeem her loss in the 5th game, then why in the world would she save Battler from the logic error as Kanon?

>> No.6685448

Who's Erika?

>> No.6685464

>>6685421
Because almost everything it this false DID is showing us that the different "characters" are acting individually.

Also, I'm more or less okay with this. Not exactly, but there is for sure some strange link between Beatrice and Erika. About Yasu specifically, I don't know.

>> No.6685475

Just went through ep 6 finale again, and this here proves you wrong.

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>>6685475
derp, forgot pic

>> No.6685508

>>6685381
>It’s not much of a stretch from here to start thinking she is 19.
Except in the game the narrator states that Erika looks more like a middle schooler, around the age of 13-14.
"Though the guest possessed a dignity that would put many adults to shame, her body was still physically similar to a middle-schooler's. Jessica's old clothes fit her perfectly."

>> No.6685549

>>6685508

That text right there only states that her BODY was that of a middle schoolers. Someone could easily be 19 and look like they still belong in middle school. Especially for Yasu's case, since she said she was frail.

>> No.6685556

>>6685483
Birth of a New Witch played in my head.

>> No.6685573

>>6685381

>I think Erika is Yasu. To clarify, I'm just putting her in the overflowing box of personalities Yasu has up in the attic.

Calling it now - everyone on the fucking island is Yasu. I am Yasu.

You are Yasu.

>> No.6685593

>>6685573
Damn it you figured it out.

Call it off folks

>> No.6685594

>>6685593

PROBLEM, MYSELF?
ahaha.wav

>> No.6685602

>>6685573
Yasu is Yasu. Yasu Yasu Yasu.

>> No.6685620

OP this theory is interesting and puts a whole new spin on the wedding in EP6.

>> No.6685623

>>6685381
>overflowing box of personalities Yasu has

Stopped reading right there. How about learning what amount of crazy Yasu actually has before making a crackpot theory.

>> No.6685638

I think everyone on the island is Yasu.

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>>6685623
Yasu has so much crazy that he/she/it has earned a fortune rivaling that of Kinzo's by selling it in large quantities at factory outlet malls across the country, bringing the savings straight to the consumers. He/she/it can mass produce more crazy in an hour than a snack company can produce chips in a day. If Yasu's crazy were food, world hunger would die the death. I believe that there is enough crazy remaining to create an entire DID family sitcom, much less a psycho pervert detective.

>> No.6685699

>>6685671
Why am I laughing at this.

>> No.6685712

>>6685699
Because a DID sitcom would be potentially hilarious when you take out the magical element.

>> No.6686168

>>6685508
Maybe this is a reflection of young Yasu's interest in mystery/detective novels.

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I think Erika is a personality created by Yasu to represent her lack of love during the fifth and sixth games. This means that the duel between Beatrice and Erika at the end of Ep6 is basically just another one of Yasu's love duels.

Also, Erika wasn't present in 1-4 because back then Yasu obviously had love.

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Erika = Jessica is completely ridiculous and even it is more feasible than this nonsense.

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You know what OP?
I actually theorized something like that myself, from even before ep7.

And even with those parts about Erika's old boyfriend and her being stood up and all that. It wasn't all that impossible to theorize that Battler could have been this old boyfriend, and through Bern's transformation of Erika no one would recognize her anyway.

The only things who I found working outright against this at the time was
1. Olololol Yasu = half the cast! Perfect writing Ryukishi!
and
2. Erika's death status from the TIPS screen, is written in the past tense, as if it were from future Ange's time. And to me it sounded as if they had actual records of the person Erika having been on that boat at the time.
And, Ange's point of view is reliable is it not? That is, unless the source is from any of the message bottles or rumours?

>> No.6686442

>>6686421
>Yasu = half the cast! Perfect writing Ryukishi!
Although, this bit is sort of redundant as of know, even if it may be ridiculous.
It should be clear by now that Ryukishi isn't your normal writer, he seems to be sort of weird, and he isn't that good at all at carrying out as many plot strings at the same time.

>> No.6686459

But in her EP6 TIP, it is said that her family was worried when she was involved in the Rokkenjima incident, so it's impossible that she's another personality.

>> No.6686491

>>6686459
Erika can be both a human and a personality.

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>>6686491

>> No.6686685

Erika isn't a personality of anyone.

It was said in red that Erika increases the number of people on the island by 1. Personalities do not do that.

>> No.6686791

>Personalities do not do that.

Yes they do. Just look at Shannon and Kanon. Even though they're just personalities of Yasu, they count as two different humans. The "There are 17 people." red text heavily supports this.

>> No.6686807

>>6686791

>The "There are 17 people." red text heavily supports this.

The "There are 17 people." red text heavily supports Erika's body existing in the island.
It's not "There are 17 people" is "Even if we include you there is 17 people" Erika is included in that 17.


captcha: catmen including

>> No.6686810

this is the worst kinectimals thread on here

>> No.6686815

>>6686791

There are 17 people applies only to games with Erika, in which she is the 17th.

There are 16 normally.

Also, then why does Beatrice does not count as a person on the island? Explain how there can be 15 people normally if she counts.

>> No.6686816

>>6686807
A roundabout way of saying there are 16 people on Rokkenjima in the worlds where Erika doesn't exist.

>> No.6686829

>>6686815
Personalities/personas don't count. Beatrice no longer has her body since Beatrice reborn died.

>> No.6686840

all Erika was was just a peice bernkastel put in to be the detective,she doesn't have anything to do with the storyline.

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>Kanon is really BATTLER Ushiromiya, the second Battler.
>Eighteen humans, including Shannon and Kanon who are not the same human/person.
>Seventeen people, counts everyone but makes it seventeen because there is already a Battler Ushiromiya.
>Thus meaning there are only seventeen people out of eighteen humans. Shkannon fags and suck it.

>> No.6686844

>>6686815
I think you forgot that Erika is originally said to be the 18th person. She replaced Kinzo, who no longer counted.

Remove Kanon because he's Shannon then it's 17.

Remove Erika and it's 16. 16 is the real number of humans on the island.

>> No.6686853

>>6686844

That's exactly what I said, though.

>> No.6686857

>>6686853
Then where are you getting 15 from.

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i solved umineko look inside

>> No.6686888

>>6686857

Follow the chain of posts. I was talking to >>6686791. If what he said was true, that personalities = number of people, I was asking how Beatrice could exist and thereby maintain a 17, meaning there must be 15 bodies on the island.

>> No.6686891

>16 is the real number of humans on the island.

16 is the number of pieces that a player starts with in chess.

It's quite funny, actually. The 16 pieces = 16 people possibility was mentioned from the very beginning, but everyone ignored it because of all the "are there 19 people or 18 people?" scenes.

>> No.6686901

Why the fuck is there so much retards in the Umineko fandom?

>> No.6686916

>>6686901
It has an anime adaptation.

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