/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Holy Fuck! She could have been born under an abusive family, in a poor environment in which war and hunger plague, but no, she lived a servant with no friends... boo hoo... who'd believe such hardships!

[Anonymous No.]

She had friends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682006
That's even worse...!

[Anonymous No.]

A product of incest

Rejected and nearly killed. As a result, a weak fragile body with its sexual organ no longer functional.

Not knowing who her parents are and living in a orphanage for all of her childhood.

No friends and bullied by the other orphans

The person she loved broke and forgot his promise to take her away

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682018
BAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWW...!

Poor kid... she had all the valid reasons to kill an entire family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682018
>A product of incest
Not her problem

>Rejected and nearly killed. As a result, a weak fragile body with its sexual organ no longer functional.
Lots of people have handicaps, at least she can function in society.

>Not knowing who her parents are and living in a orphanage for all of her childhood.
Like millions other children

>No friends and bullied by the other orphans
The bullying was next to nothing and was mostly because she had a better life than them.
And she had friends, Jessica and Maria

>The person she loved broke and forgot his promise to take her away
Yeah a 12 years old boy who had to break a childish promise because his mother fucking died, so evil.

She is just a drama-whore

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682025
It was a family full of assholes, she made the world a favour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682025
Moot point. There's never a valid reason for a massacre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682034
Of course I don't think her reason is that good, however it seems that regardless which path she takes, everyone still ends up killing eachother, however the chances of them killing each other is less if she doesn't get involved at all.

[Anonymous No.]

leon is so damn cute, god

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682039
>less
They would still be greedy bastards that get themselves killed for money.
Look at Lion's world.

[Anonymous No.]

By the way, Natsuhi is a splendid mother. She's got my respect.

She was a bitch and a criminal for throwing the baby of the cliff, and she ought to go to jail for that, but as a mother, she's amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682031

She fully blamed herself for half of this shit, where you even reading?

[Anonymous No.]

Without love, it can't be seen.

You, who can't find the culprit's reason acceptable, are just people with no love. You, who can't see the sky as blue, are mere furniture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682066
Somethings can only be seen without love. That was said in EP 7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682066
It's the ocean, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

Yasu never really killed anyone.

Even when s/he existed as Leon, the massacre would have taken place anyway. So whatever actions s/he took were meaningless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682076
If you don't care about the heart, you're no different than intellectual rapists.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682001
What did you expect from an completely insane eunuch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682088
That doesn't excuse anything.
Intent to kill is still really bad, I bet you wouldn't like if someone was planning to kill you, right?

And the fact that they would die even if she didn't do anything is just a shitty excuse, same thing as saying as it's okay to kill a patient with a terminal disease because he is going to die soon anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682066
I finally get it

love = dai music

you can't read about the life of a crazy murderous angrogynous meido, ignore how silly it is and still find her symphatetic without dai music playing in the background

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682106
So you're saying intent and/or delusion to rape lolis and whatever are as bad as the action itself? Then this place must be dangerous as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682121
Delusion =/= intent, are you stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

You people sicken me. You can't just understand that Yasu never intended to kill anyone, can you?

Don't take the Tea Party at face value and try to comprehend what you read for once. If her motive for killing people doesn't make sense at all then, oh, I don't know, maybe there's something else going on? But no, you people just stop thinking and rage at how Yasu is a murderous slut.

Before you say it, yes, I mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682162

how can he even be a slut when he can't have sex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682162
You are just a retard, don't pollute this thread with your mongoloid faggotry please.

[Anonymous No.]

>Rejected and nearly killed. As a result, a weak fragile body with its sexual organ no longer functional.

I never understood this part. Did he drop his penis somewhere?

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682162
Can you explain to us what Yasu's plan was then if not to murder people?

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682192
Yes. His scrotum absorbed the force of the fall, which is why he survived.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682194
It wasto kill herself...with a bomb that may or may not take the rest of the island with her

Well looks like she never got to think it through

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682194
Fake murders with bribes.

Someone needs to make a chart or something, damn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682207
>Fake murders
theory from like 10 years ago which is wrong

real murders, in a fictional story

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682204
Just because Yasu was planning to kill himself doesn't mean that he didn't want to kill others as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682207
That's stupid.
Explain why the bomb explodes in every episodees then.
Why they continue with the fake murders when they realize that people are really dying.
Why they kept saying that what Yasu tried to do was really desperate, sad and pitiful, that she was basically betting everything for a miracle.
Why it's a fact that Yasu really did kill in episode 1-4 as Will proved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682194
She sent the letter to get the rest of the family to acknowledge her existence, and to get them to stop faking her Grandfather's death. By solving the epitaph.

She admitted to killing them all because the truth was too terrible, and she did feel responsible because she started the events that led to the family killing each other.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

Why is everyone calling Yasu a male?

Japan has her as female and there is no evidence to the contrary, female genitals are just as vulnerable to damage from a long fall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682221
>Why it's a fact that Yasu really did kill in episode 1-4 as Will proved.

Because she wrote herself as the culprit, genius.

She's a scapegoat my god why don't people understand this after EP5.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682248
She only wrote episode 1 and 2 moron.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682238
It makes more sense for a eunuch to be androgynous than a woman with a mashed vagooo.

[Anonymous No.]

The fake murder theory is silly and contradicts too many past points.

Stop focusing so much on the line of 'will return all lives taken'. You're taking to phrase too literally.

And stop thinking that just because you don't pity Beatrice, Battler can't.

[Anonymous No.]

The fake murder theory is silly and contradicts too many past points.

Stop focusing so much on the line of 'will return all lives taken'. You're taking the phrase too literally.

And stop thinking that just because you don't pity Beatrice, Battler can't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682238
Shroedinger's Yasu, there's actually pretty equal evidence for both genders.

I think Japan wants Yasu as a waifu though, hence the female.

And the West is just a self-hating rage machine, so they want male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>Explain why the bomb explodes in every episodees then.
See the following.

>>Why they continue with the fake murders when they realize that people are really dying.
The side that was committing fraud never realized that the murders were getting real and the side that was being fooled really believed there were murders and took steps to defend themselves.

>>Why they kept saying that what Yasu tried to do was really desperate, sad and pitiful, that she was basically betting everything for a miracle.
It would be a miracle for the Urishimoya family to accept her.

>>Why it's a fact that Yasu really did kill in episode 1-4 as Will proved.
When Yasu realized what they did they flipped the switch on the clock and really killed everyone left so that they would not know the horrible truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682258
But 3 and 4 were written based on the 'truth' of 1 and 2, idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682248
People understand what her being a scapegoat mean, it just doesn't mean that she is completely innocent.
She really planned to kill people if the roulette pointed that way.
But after the fact she realized what she had done was terrible and decided to take all the blame on herself at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682248
You're mixing up the two points.

People believe even in the fictional worlds, that they weren't real murders and merely Yasu making a fake murder game. This is completely different from the fact that it's a fictional world and not "real"

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682259
It makes more sense for a woman, really.

Adam's apples and other male features make it rather hard to keep a female charade, whereas females have successfully masqueraded as young men for centuries with tales and legends to go with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682267
That's just fucking retarded, at the level of that Schroedinger comic except you are actually serious about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682270
Just because Auauu understood what technically happened doesn't mean she understood everything -- the "heart". She was still checking her theory at the end of 7, dammit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682259
>mashed vagooo

Damaged womb, you mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682282
>>That's just fucking retarded
;____;

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682281
Yasu wouldn't have an Adam's apple or other secondary male sexual characteristics if his balls got destroyed before hitting puberty.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682285
She just wanted to see it play out, she understood everything about Beatrice's heart considering the stories she wrote are accepted to be valid.

And the fake murders theory just want to completely invalidate the characterization of every episodes before which is why I hate the retard who keep pushing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682281
If his balls were smashed at a young age, there is no Adam's apple later.

Also, it is unlikely that he busted his ovaries during the fall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682264
I'm wondering
If Yasu was a male, why would Genji even bothering hiding him from Kinzo, fearing the history will repeat again.
Unless Kinzo is into both incest and yaoi
That or he wouldn't mind as long as it looks like Beatrice.
inb4 I wouldn't put it past Kinzo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682278
Fake murder game was the plan in the real world, but shit happened.

Yasu was the culprit of 1-4, meant to cover up the truth of what really happened and the real 'culprit'.

EP7 isn't the entire truth due to Bern's red text and missing the heart. It was probably Eva's interpretation of things at the very least.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682289
Women without wombs can have sex. In any case a woman's ovaries would have to be destroyed for estrogen production to be disrupted, which would be a lot harder than the baby losing its balls without the damage to the surrounding tissue also killing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682305
I wouldn't put it past Kinzo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682306
>Fake murder game was the plan in the real world, but shit happened.

You have no proof of this. All evidence suggests otherwise. Stop trying to glorify Yasu.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682294
Or if she was a woman.

And as emotional as she is and as much she raved about ''a body incapable of love'' in a family were a woman not being able to bear children is rather terrible and remember Shannon's reaction to George ''wanting lots of children''.

Yasu as a male makes little sense, not to mention ''Kanon's'' reluctance with Jessica versus Shannon's care for George and Beatrice's..uh ''care'' for Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682303
>And the fake murders theory just want to completely invalidate the characterization of every episodes

What, because it makes Yasu out to be actually competent and not crazy? She isn't insane, by the way, nor does she have DID.

People who think she does don't know shit about multiple personalities. "But it's a stupid fictional story by that faggot Ryukishi!" they say. Fuck them, Ryukishi knows what he's doing, and if you understood what was really going on you would be fine with the whole story like most Yasufags are now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682325
Strong denial to believe Yasu isn't insane.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682319
EP5 and 6, Battler forgave her completely and begged for forgiveness. All evidence points to Yasu being innocent. Stop trying to demonize her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682325
No, because the previous episodes show that she was willing to kill.
You are saying it's not true because the previous episodes were fiction.
Then I could also say that Kyrie is a completely adjusted individuals, Rosa is a great mother, Natsuhi certainly doesn't have any delusions, etc...

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682311
You're equating love with sex, she could be talking about a normal married life with children, you know?

[Anonymous No.]

Every hint points to Yasu being female, like only having girl personalities before the creation of Kanon, or talking about every girl's dreams of getting married, etc.

The only thing pointing towards she being male is Kanon's existance and Lion's ambiguous gender (I myself believe that while Yasu is female there's a chance that Lion is male, and that's the reason as to why he was accepted by Natsuhi)

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682323
He was still raised as a woman, so it makes sense for him to self-identify as such to an extent. That would explain why it was awkward for him to act as a man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682323
She is a man.

Stop pretending otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682336
You are equating innocence and forgiveness.
He could have realized everything she went through and that's why he reacted that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682337
>You are saying it's not true because the previous episodes were fiction.

No, it's because the previous episodes were fiction written with her as the culprit in mind. How people still don't understand this boggles my mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682336
That doesn't prove anything. In the real world, Yasu never had the chance to kill anyone because the epitaph was immediately solved.

You're projecting your character onto Battler. Just because you think Yasu had the intent to kill is bad doesn't mean Battler has to think the same.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682344
She is a woman. stop trying to deny it or prove otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682305
Soo....can anyone point out why Genji really needs to hide the baby?

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682338
"Making love" does mean having sex after all. And saying that you need to have children to experience love seems like quite a stretch.

>>6682339
That just means that he was raised as a woman and self-identified as such. He could still have been born a male.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682345
You don't BEG for forgiveness from someone if that someone slaughtered your whole family.

I know Battler is incompetent, but really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682353

>Believing Bern

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682356
Her cunt is in a cat box. I ain't gonna explain shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Why does it matter what gender Yasu is? Throughout the entire story they're neither. They might have never even known what gender they were supposed to be.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682360
Because he disapproves of baby-fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682238

it makes more sense to assume he was a male. otherwise the whole trap motif wouldn't make as much sense.

also its easier to imagine male genitals being completely destroyed then a females. you cant sew that back on.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682363
Look at her family and the ideal of what love is.

For a female of that family, not having children was like being furniture.

If she planned to wed Battler and found out she couldn't have children, well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682353
>In the real world, Yasu never had the chance to kill anyone because the epitaph was immediately solved.

Taking the Tea Party at face value, I see.

laughinggirls.jpg

And yes, I have resorted to this because I can't argue with you people, no matter what I say you refuse to at least consider the opposite view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682379
That doesn't even make sense.

She wasn't even part of the family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682360
Because that baby's father/grandfather was a crazy incestuous guy who believed in a "ritual" of dark magic to revive his love.

[Anonymous No.]

The game boards have to follow Beatrice's heart and the rules of the game. A game board can't have a character being ooc.

Since Yasu is painted as the culprit in the game worlds, Yasu had the will to become the culprit in the real world. Culprit meaning murderer.

This whole Yasu never killed to kill anyone is total bullshit and anybody thinking is a loon.

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682379
Considering that Yasu's dream involved both of them leaving the Ushinomiya family I don't see how what that family's ideal was is relevant.

[Anonymous No.]

The game boards have to follow Beatrice's heart and the rules of the game. A game board can't have a character being ooc.

Since Yasu is painted as the culprit in the game worlds, Yasu had the will to become the culprit in the real world. Culprit meaning murderer.

This whole Yasu never planned to kill anyone is total bullshit and anybody thinking is a loon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682382
It was stated in red that Tea Party was the truth.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682384
Is Lion not the heir, who is the ''miracle'' version of Yasu's life?

Is she not Kinzo's daughter?

I'd call that part of the family and having Jessica and whoever .. might have given her similar ideas and did we forget she's a servant there?

She could have gotten similar ideals quite easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682364
Pay attention.

She never did.

Even if she planned to, she never did.

There's a world of difference between planning and committing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682396

No. Anything could have been said if Ange had not interrupted Bern.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682396
No it wasn't, dumbass.

Ange interrupted Bern, the sentence was not finished, it might have said ''This is all truthfully amusing''.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682402
There is no evidence to suggest that.

Also, it is obvious that Ryukishi just used the word love as a synonym for sex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682392
Where did you get this silly "in-character == same as the real-world person" idea from?

[Anonymous No.]

Why don't you faggots just wait another week to find out what happens instead of arguing like man children?

[Anonymous No.]

>Parents died in an accident
>Raped and bullied in an orphanage
>Adoptive Grandpa never respected due LOLPARASITES

Yasu is smalltime

[Anonymous No.]

So if someone is entirely able and can commit themselves to rape and murder but out of a Kantian sense of duty does not do so, can you really accuse them of being a rapist and murderer?

There has to be a difference between being capable and willing to murder and actually murdering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682382
>Thinking Ryuishi will throw such a huge red herring at this late in the game.

Naive fool. No better than those that believed EP6 to be a red herring.

I won't argue that it's not the full truth because it obviously isn't, but if you think what Bern showed you is 100% false then sadly mistaken. Common sense would tell you otherwise. Ryukishi wouldn't have a long scene like that right before the finale if it wasn't important.

[Anonymous No.]

It makes no sense to bother introducing the possibility of Yasu being male if she's just female after all. There must be some form of ambiguity.

Yasu believing she's a girl and adopting the mentality of one doesn't mean shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682392
>Since Yasu is painted as the culprit in the game worlds, Yasu had the will to become the culprit in the real world. Culprit meaning murderer.

I just don't even

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682411
>>6682413
She was not interrupted. It was a complete sentence.

The page only changed automatically because of the need to create dramatic impact for Ange's scream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682440
try reading the backlog and see if you find that sentence
oh wait you can't because it's not fucking there

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682419
Did Ryukishi make the statement or was it otherwise in-game?

There's not a shred for her being male besides taking a certain interpretation of her fall whereas her being female would make everything a lot smoother.

>>6682421
Where's the fun in that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682429
I never said it was a red herring, nor did I say that the Tea Party was 100% false.

I said people should stop taking it at face value. That doesn't mean it's entirely untrue. But considering it was stated to be missing something extremely important and Bern never confirmed it was the truth, well...

And honestly, I thought EP6 was just fine and accepted Shkanontrice for what it was at the time, so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682450
Bern:"This is the truth"

Ange: "ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG"


There is your direct quote

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682462
I'm saying to read the backlog, I know what they said.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682440
''This is all truth-''

Notice the ''-'' which is used to denote cut-offs?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682421
Because spoilers are just going to make everything worse at this point--they always have because people skew them.

We have to wait until the translation to really understand shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682467
That's what is in the back log.

The truth part was in red

[Anonymous No.]

Things I have learned from Umineko:

- Never deal with japanese people

- Christianity bears very dangerous ideas

- Being orphan eliminates any sense of identity

- Being manipulated for a time will screw you for life

- Child labour is alright

- You will never be the little girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682468
The - just means that they are speaking on top of each other

[Anonymous No.]

This is the only winner in Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682472
Then Witch Hunt fucked up with the coding, because in the japanese version Bern's sentence disappears from the log once Ange screams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682478
Uh, no.

lrn2basicgrammar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682479
This is just how I imagine Ryukishi to look like

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682478
And Ange was screaming, we didn't hear her whole sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682489
But we could read it

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682427

She wasn't raped, cut this shit animefag

I still love Takano trought. even if she's more delusional and insane than Yasu

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682486
Here's what he actually looks like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682495
So he looks like Anime George

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682495
Is that a basement I see there?

[Anonymous No.]

All this talk about Lion gender is silly

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682468
Bern should have completed the sentence if it was incomplete. Giving a partial sentence that is actually untrue would be pretty cheap and against the point of the red text.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682492
You ''hear'' by reading in a novel, that sentence was cut-off which means you didn't ''hear'' it all.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682510
The point of it being unfinished was to give room for Episode 8 and to make us think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682513
You could clearly read it and it was confirmed for truth. If it wasn't the truth it would have been shown as white text.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682493

At least Takano showed remorse and understood what she was going was wrong

What did Yau do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682510
>Bern

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682520
It was part of a Red Truth, we didn't see it all as Ange cut her off.

How many times must I go over something that is accepted by most communities?

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682516
That would be pretty cheap. But then again there are other things in Umineko that are cheap, e.g. personalities counting as people or the fact that Ange spends all of Episode 4 wondering how her family was killed but never even thinks once about the explosion that leveled the manor even when she comes upon the 1 km-wide crater.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682532
The point is that impartial truths are not red. How can absolute truth be incomplete?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682537
Battler did the whole red truth thing and was cut off because it wasn't true.

But the point is there was a part of his sentence that was red that was cut off, so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682532
>>6682532
The point is that impartial truths are red. How can absolute truth be incomplete?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682546
If it wasn't true then it can't be red.

It is red therefore it is truth.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682550
The point is the whole sentence was red, it was just cut-off.

If I was about to say the sky was blue but, was punched in the face before I could finish...

Would it be any less absolute?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682539

Said the anon that likes Higurashi

[Anonymous No.]

Here's the proof. Did this right now, Bern's line has completely disappeared from the log.
If you'll take my word for it, I can assure I didn't skip anything between the last panel and the one before that.
If you don't believe me, do it yourself and see that it's not there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682559
So if i were to say

Water is black

cut

if you mix ink into it.

Then water would be black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682568
Uh, still looks pretty cutoff to me, bro.

Which I believe is the whole fucking point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682572
Yes, I'm saying that for the fag saying "it's red so it's still truth"

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682571
No, your full sentence would be the truth not the amount people managed to hear.

That's the entire fucking point of this, Bern's full statement is true but, her full statement is unknown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682568
There is a bug in the game because of the special effect.

[Anonymous No.]

Random thought: What's up with schoolgirl Beatrice talking about being tied up and having rough sex with Battler towards the end in EP4?

[None !Nipaa0mi0. No.]

>>6682565
I also thought that the Hinamizawa Syndrome was way too convenient for the plot (e.g. why was it contained in that area, why did it disappear from the hosts when it was an endo rather than ectoparasite etc.) but that doesn't mean I have to dislike the story or immediately accept cheap shots in other stories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682587


Who wouldn't have sex with Battler?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6682583
In that case I could say anything in red.

Kinzo is the culprit

cut

if he is Yasu.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682587
Beato is drunk and was hoping for Battler to know his sin which would grant him the estate which includes her.

And we all know Beato is after Battler.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682611
Right, but it wouldn't be true, only your full, uninterrupted thought.

This is a VERY common cop-out in storytelling.

[Manfred !!UiOrmYiMsJQ No.]

>>6682611
Also, it's red because the entire sentence is true and Bern said a full sentence but, it was interrupted by Ange keeping us from hearing it.

It was only a partial truth for the reader.

[Anonymous No.]

tl;dr Bern's red is NOT real red.
Battler's red about himself got cut off when he got to the part that would make it false.
Bern could be saying "It's the truth that I'm a bitch", she could even be saying "It's the truth that the ocean is purple" and she would only become unable to speak at the "purple".
Captcha even calls her "ruthless banditer".

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, the Japanese version of Bern's line has no end of sentence kanji, like someone made half a sentence and stopped.

The sentence was not complete, stop arguing about obvious shit.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, I was wondering about that scene earlier in thr game with the young beatrice(lolitrice?) and Virgillia. That doesn't make sense now.

If that were Yasu she wouldn't have been in a mansion, wear a dress instead of a maid outfit, called princess and met Virgillia. Oh and we know Gaap caused her to become a witch, or create Beatrice as an alternate personality

It could have been Beatrice II since she was in a mansion(Kuwadorian) but then she certianly wouldn't have met Virgillia and show desire to 'Become beatrice' Unless Beatrice II also had multiple personalities?

[Anonymous No.]

Yasuda must me the family name, and her actual name is Sayo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuda

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>>6682749
Stop taking the fantasy scenes seriously.

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>>6682749
Virgillia = Kumasawa

Beato II lived in mansion, Kumasawa went over there and took care of her. In fantasy, this could be interpreted as Lolitrice meeting the old Beatrice and learning magic from her.

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>>6682749

Yasu viewed Kumasawa as a motherly figure. Virgilia is quite obviously based on Kumasawa

It was probably just Kumasawa.

Of course this assumes that that scene even happened at all. You're talking about the beginning of EP3 when she breaks the vase and then fixes it with "magic" right? There may be a hint hidden in that scene, but the scene itself shouldn't be taken literally.

It's been a while since I read EP3 but if I recall, the important thing to take away from that scene was R07 talking about the nature of "magic".

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>>6682568
That's just a glitch in ONscripter. Happened in Witches and Woodlands several times, too.

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>>6682749

You should really re-read that scene. If you've read through EP7, the real meaning will be more clear to you.

What happens is that Virgilia fixes a vase that "Beato" breaks. But the vase doesn't stay fixed permanently, instead later it is broken by a cat. But Beato doesn't get punished because she "didn't break the vase".

The outcome is the same, but the reasons for why the vase broke are different.

If you think about the EP7 tea party, this should make a lot of sense. The outcome of the story is the same (almost everyone dies) but a few things are different.

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>>6682815
That makes me wonder..
How can Battler writes a tales that almost everyone dies but not sad?

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>>6682844
Yasu's fake murder plan succeeds perfectly, Battler remembers his sin, Real Culprit is caught before they can kill, no one dies.

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>>6682844
As long as the outcome is the same, how we arrive at that outcome doesn't matter. People don't necessarily need to be killed. Battler could say something like "We were all at the family conference, and then a witch came out and brought us all to the Golden Land, where everyone is still living happily today." The outcome is still the same; all the Ushiromiyas disappeared from the island, leaving no trace. But the process is different.

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>>6682873
Seems that witch forgot to bring Maria's jawbone to the Golden Land then.

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>>6682749

That was Beatrice II and Kumasawa. Remember that Beatrice II was having an identity crisis because she was being treated as her mother Beatrice Castiglioni but felt incomplete because she wasn't the Beatrice that Kinzo wanted.

[Anonymous No.]

Bernkastel doing what she does best.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking love Takano.
I'm still really unimpressed with Yasu, I hope the final episode will investigate further her motivations.
She's been through a lot of shit but not enough to murder a whole family in gruesome ways.

[Anonymous No.]

Do you think they will continue about the whole Eva, Ange,Lion = Evangelion thing?
Lion kept going on about the fact that his name is spelled leeon,as in evangelion, while written as Lion. And Ange also said she thought her name was just as weird

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>>6682931
When does this happen?
Or is it fake? I can't remember Bern ever meeting Maria

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>>6682960
Fake

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>>6682952
It all makes sense now..!

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>>6682978
Episode 8 : "congratulations, Battler"

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>>6682392
>>A game board can't have a character being ooc.
Why the shit do people keep saying this when it doesn't hold up? Pieces specialize in in-character behavior, but it's been demonstrated over and over again that the GMs CAN push them around and make them OOC, do and feel things they wouldn't, if they really want. Why exactly can't Yasu/Beatrice, as the GM, paint herself as the culprit in such a way?

You have people crying about how the pieces can't be OOC no matter what from one end of their mouth and then making lame excuses for Yasu explicitly being involved in orchestrating fake murders as opposed to a real roulette in 5 and 6 because uhhh because magically Lambda and Battler can make her OOC for just those episodes just because!

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>>6682844
But "everyone dies" isn't the result he has to match, it's "everyone went missing and no corpses were found". If his story has something like Beatrice helping everyone to escape to the Golden Land through a magic portal, it's still consistent with the evidence.

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>>6684628

Maria's jaw

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>>6684663
Message bottle.