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[Anonymous No.]

Yasu is a miracle of the universe!

[Anonymous No.]

Yasu is a schizophrenic who murders everyone who ever cared for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629853
Well who planned to murder, but she is also a failure who could never do anything right

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629853
>her

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629874
>implying Yasu's true gender has been implied yet by R07

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629853

They had take better care so Yasu's life wasn't complete shit.

Yasu is a miracle of moe.

[Anonymous No.]

Is Yasu the new "Rika" of Umineko?

Will there be more "Yasu is the miracle of___" in the future?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629923

Of course not. Rika is shit tier loli while Yasu is awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629907
Her life wasn't shit at all, only delusional whiteknight faggot could believe it was.

[Anonymous No.]

Yasu is like fifty people including Beatrice right? If so, I'm okay with this.

[Anonymous No.]

Yasu thread? Fuck yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629939

If you count the future characters sure. I mean, who is NOT Yasu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629937
Yasu's life was shit in the way a lot of people's lives were shit. You don't have to be forced to lick an orphanage toilet clean in order to be miserable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629937

Of course, she had an awesome life with being tossed from a cliff, having no parents, everyone mocking her and that shit.

Man, how much I envy her, I want such an awesome life.

[Anonymous No.]

Much like Yasu, OP is samefagging shamelessly in this thread.

Yasu is an overly dramatic whore, and only White Knight Shipperfags like her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629968
That's going to be the joke in ep 8. It was all Yasu in a room by him/herself acting out every character at once.

In a sanitorium.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629968
The reader. Which would ultimately be you and me.

I don't think I have quite such issues as not remembering being the little girl. Do you.

[Anonymous No.]

Yasu is shit, but so is Beato. Shannon's the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629982
Not samefagging, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629980
Everyone on Rokkenjima has issues. Besides, literally three people were in love with her. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.
>>6629978
I'm sorry, but compared to people like Eva and Ange, Yasu's life is just a case of needing to man the fuck up. No one picked on her besides the shitty servants we never see, and tons of people loved him.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it gay if you stick your penis in the catbox and something engulfs it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629984

You 100% sure? I don't think Rudolf and his penis remembered being the little girl, but they were.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629983
In all honesty I think "the mystery already ended" means basically that Ryukushi is going to pull Ellery Queen.

Moon-chan, you never responded on my pre-ep prayers, but I am calling you once again out of sentiment.[/spoilers]

[Anonymous No.]

I just wonder why the fuck she led George on like that...

Seriously, the poor guy is getting NTR'd by his two cousins!

AND ONE OF THEM ISN'T EVEN A MALE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629985
Yasu is shit, Shannon is shit and Kanon is shit.
Beato's the best.

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>>6629993
>Besides, literally three people were in love with her.
How is that supposed to make her happy? Does it give her a family? Does it make them accept the parts of her personality she hides from other people? Having Jessica and George in love with her just made more work for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629984
>>6629997
So Umineko is in fact R07's big plan to make everyone into a loli?

Everything forgiven, I am very okay with this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630007

Dont forget all cases of the love where practically impossible without either drama from class difference or drama from the obvious incest-incest bomb.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Yasu have his mental problems because he's inbred? He's the son and grandson of Kinzo, and he wants to get with Battler, who's another grandson of Kinzo. What's with the incest in the family?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630016
>19 years
>loli

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630020
Rcih and important families have traditionally inbred.
Not that weird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629993
>Besides, literally three people were in love with her.
HURR, HOW COULD BATTLER BE MAD ABOUT HIS FAMILY DYING! BEATRICE WAS IN LOVE WITH HIM!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630020
Fucking incest.
I hate it.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess for some people you need to be beaten around every day and get gang raped like 30 times a week in order to be symphatetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630032
no, that makes you a slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630000
Her motive at the moment is the most plausible out of anyone.

It could happen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629993

Allow me to be amused at you defending Eva and Ange and saying Yasu's life wasn't as bad.

Eva's life was shit just because she wanted to pursue a dream a woman couldn't achieve. She wasn't even the older sibling, even if she was a man it would be hard for her to get the headship.
She could have train herself as a pure and cute lady and she would have life the life of a rich girl, taking it easy with everything she needed, maybe even the love of her other siblings.

After all isn't she happy as an adult taking care of her family as an average housewife cooking for everyone?


Ange had a terrible tragedy early in her life, but if she wasn't a spoiled brat and had trust Eva's words she could have lead a nice life, eventually the pain would be forgot and she could be happy with her foster mother. Since she wouldn't be a disgusting bad mooded kid she would have friends and not being the class' favourite punchball.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630020

Genetic problems only occur that pronounced after prolonged incest (like among a noble family "palm" tree).

[Anonymous No.]

LOOK AT THIS SHIT
FUCK
I'M GETTING SECONDHAND :D JUST LOOKING AT IT

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630002
>tsundere
>not shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630032
Nah, usually not playing with people's lives will get my sympathy. Yasu is selfish, really.

Irredeemably so, in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't stand Yasu.
I want Beato back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6629993
>tons of people loved him.

>Thrown off a cliff by adopted mother.
>Bullied by coworkers.
>Only real friend is a child half your age that you see maybe two times a year at most.
>Completely forgotten by the person that gave you hope of a better life for yourself.
>Loved by a passive-aggressive asshole and "friend" that only talks to you when her mom isn't looking.
>Lied to by beloved adults to make an old rapist feel better.
>Find out everyone knew there was something wrong with your genitals and that you're a freak of nature.

But, hey a lot of people wanted to fuck her so that totally makes up for everything else!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630040
Yeah, so Eva should have just stayed in the kitchen. Classy argument bro.

And as for Ange, yeah, having a crazy aunt(Crazy due to strange and fucked up shit but crazy none the less) as your only living relative is tough to deal with.

The difference between them and Yasu is that Yasu DID have people who loved him/her, and yet Yasu willingly destroyed all of that, while Eva and Ange would have been content with the love they had.

Yasu is destructive, and Eva and Ange, despite their many flaws, tried to build something constructive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630077
Eva and Ange had people that loved them too. Should they have been content with their situation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630077

I disagree with Ange. Ange pretty much destroyed any happiness she had with Eva. Eva who tried to love her as a second child and Ange rejected her. inb4 LOLBERN

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630069
>Thrown off a cliff by adopted mother.
Natsuhi is a bitch, we've established this. Tough shit.
>Bullied by coworkers.
Understandable, Yasu had it pretty easy. Besides, Yasu bullied others in the orphanage.
>Only real friend is a child half your age that you see maybe two times a year at most.
Yasu could have simply gone to see him. Really, she was never trapped.
>Completely forgotten by the person that gave you hope of a better life for yourself.
Shit happened in his life, and hey, she didn't make the effort.
>Loved by a passive-aggressive asshole and "friend" that only talks to you when her mom isn't looking.
George cares for Yasu, much more so than Battler ever did, and Jessica had Natsuhi as a mother. Really, nothing worth killing everyone over.
>Lied to by beloved adults to make an old rapist feel better.
Kinzo is a dick, but he was a dick to everyone.
>Find out everyone knew there was something wrong with your genitals and that you're a freak of nature.
That's not quite established yet, you're just postulating.


Anyways! Yasu is sympathetic IF s/he didn't set up a bomb and murder plot.

If she or her did, then fuck no.

Tough luck is tough luck, but there are lines you just don't cross.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630069
>Thrown off a cliff by adopted mother.

You know its not like Natsuhi actually carried Yasu and threw her down the cliff. woudn't it be more accurate to say that Natsuhi rejected Yasu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630078
Did they plan on killing people?

Eva going to school and Ange discovering the truth =/= OK I'M GOING TO KILL EVERYONE, PROBABLY

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630077

Read this.

>>6630069

If the Tanabata tip is reliable Eva didn't acted crazy in the slightly before Ange rejected her. In fact is the nicest she has been with someone non Hideyoshi.

And isn't Eva staying in the kitchen in spite of all?
Ok, let's say she wants some independence. Why couldn't she run some bussiness as Rosa does? Being the head was unrealistic, man or woman. She had choices.

[Anonymous No.]

I think the argument is getting muddled.

Yasu had some objective shittiness to her/his life, as all WTC characters usually do.

The question is this; do her circumstances really make cold blooded murder acceptable?

I think not, I think the drama of her life is definitely bad, and I can feel for her, but I can't say I feel for her for making the "brave" choice of slaughtering everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630101

mfw Eva was totally cool with killing Nappi as long as she wasn't arrested.

[Anonymous No.]

>Yasu could have simply gone to see him. Really, she was never trapped.

OH FU-

IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT FUCKING PONY I WOULDN'T BE WAITING FOR YOU YOU FAGGOT BUT I'LL THROW AWAY SIX YEARS OF MY LIFE FOR CACHE ROMANTICISM

[Anonymous No.]

Nobody forced her to date George.
Nobody forced her to act like a boy and seduce Jessica.
She brought the situation herself, she is a simple three-timing whore who couldn't choose between the lesbo, the ginger and the fat guy and decided to kill people due to that.
Anyone who think she had good motives is terminally retarded

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>>6630040
>Eva's words she could have lead a nice life
Technically, Eva still murdered Battler (who was the detective during that game).

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630102
>Ok, let's say she wants some independence. Why couldn't she run some bussiness as Rosa does? Being the head was unrealistic, man or woman. She had choices.

I think this is where Japan values comes to play. Since she got married she most likely "had" to stay home and take care of the house, George and shit. Though you have a great point, her ultimate goal was the Headship rather than just being an independent woman.

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>>6630102
I see what you're trying to do, and I don't like it.

Yes, Eva had a goal, and Yasu had a goal.

My point is that Yasu's means are fucking uncalled for.

Really, Yasu planned out, in amazing attention to detail, the murder of more than a dozen mostly innocent people. In episode 7 Yasu says s/he was going to do it, s/he prepared the weapons, the whole she-bang.

Eva wanted to be the head, yes. But she never went about it by plotting out the deaths of the family members.

Likewise, Ange wanted to discover the truth, but not through murder.

All three characters have a goal, and could be content with their lives had they not pursued that goal, sure.

The issue is the MEANS they used to go about it.

Yasu's means are selfish, uncalled for, and just waste human life. Hence why some object to her. Because of the murdering s/he was more than willing to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630110

Writting fanfiction =/= cool blooded killing.

Heck, if I want I can even whiteknight her saying she insisted over and over on the epitaph so nobody would be to die.
Even more. Yasu is not only Beato, but also Kanon and Shannon who fought trying to stop her.
It's not cool blooded, 2/3 of her was trying to stop the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630115

Have you read EP7 at all?

[Anonymous No.]

Even if she had a shitty life, and really her life wasn't that shitty, her motive for what she tried to do has nothing to do with it.
She didn't decide to kill due to some feeling of hatred for the Uroshimiya or a revenge for her shitty life.

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>>6630110
This is a good point.

The only other person in WTC who ever murdered and didn't have to atone for it in some way is Shion who paradoxically never wanted to kill anyone to begin with, just wanted to get to some ends and when she ended up with this measure once, she just left it at that(and went completely insane with Satoko)

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630129
I did.
Where am I wrong? Do tell me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630128
She had a plan and was going to go through it.
That's called intent to kill, her failing to do anything doesn't change shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630128
Hahaha, yeah, two thirds of her. It's play acting, Shannon, Kanon, and Beatrice.

It ain't DID, it's just one entity.

Anyways, she wrote "fanfiction", which she fully intended to act on. Hence why s/he didn't tell the adults about the bigass bomb until after they wrecked her shit and solved the epitagh.

Seriously, this is important. You CAN'T SAY that Yasu wasn't going to actually kill people when by the VERY ACT OF NOT TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE BOMB AND PRESENTING THE EPITAGH she already, in a sense, was ATTEMPTING MURDER

The reality of the situation had her plans not work out, but that doesn't change that fact that s/he was playing with people's lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630115
>Nobody forced her to date George.
No, just manipulated her into it.
>Nobody forced her to act like a boy and seduce Jessica.
Kanon had nothing to do with Jessica.
>She brought the situation herself, she is a simple three-timing whore who couldn't choose between the lesbo, the ginger and the fat guy and decided to kill people due to that.
She rejected the lesbo, was forgotten by the ginger, and was planning on marrying the fat guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630138
>>6630147
If she was going to kill everyone, how was she planning on giving everyone who died their lives back again, as stated in red by Beatice? Faggots really don't know how to read.

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>>6630151
>No, just manipulated her into it.
He didn't. He may have did some thing to have better chance with her but everyone fucking do this. It was by her own will that she fell for him and that she dated him.

>Kanon had nothing to do with Jessica.
Remember when Shannon suggested that Kanon could go with Jessica to the school festival. And by Kanon's own mouth you know that "he" had feelings for her

>She rejected the lesbo, was forgotten by the ginger, and was planning on marrying the fat guy.
What she planned was only going through an insane game.

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>>6630156
The same way as she gave life to Shannon and Kanon fucking moron.
Learn to meta, basically mean that everyone keep coming back to life again and again in STORIES.

And if you think that she didn't intended to kill people for real then you better disregard everything that happened in Umineko.
The simple fact that she does kill in episode 1-4 prove that she had the will to kill.

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>>6630167
>He didn't. He may have did some thing to have better chance with her but everyone fucking do this. It was by her own will that she fell for him and that she dated him.
He outright says the reason he went after her was because he felt bitter because she loved Battler instead of him. The emotions eventually turned genuine, but let's not pretend they started from a non-manipulative standpoint.

>Remember when Shannon suggested that Kanon could go with Jessica to the school festival. And by Kanon's own mouth you know that "he" had feelings for her
Helping out a friend when they're freaking out is not the same as seducing them. Likewise, regardless of what feelings Kanon said he had for her, he also rejected her. That's the opposite of seduction.

>What she planned was only going through an insane game.
The game was important to Yasu for some reason. To be honest, I don't know why. But she also clearly stated that 1) the love duel had already been decided and carried out and 2) she loves George now more than she loved Battler in the past.

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>>6630176
>Learn to meta, basically mean that everyone keep coming back to life again and again in STORIES.
Read EP5, faggot. They talk about this. Every story is individual and the things that happen happen. She said she would return everything she took, which is impossible if its lying dead in a puddle somewhere.

Even setting the fucking bomb doesn't mean people have to die. You can turn it off again, which Kinzo obviously did since the island is still intact.

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>>6630199
Fact 1: "giving everyone who died their lives back again" mean they first have to DIE.
Fact 2: that kind of shit is impossible in the fucking real world.
How was she going to do this?

Now let's see some other facts:
-It's stated that every stories are potentially the truth, that's the basis of Umineko aka the Schroedinger box.
-It's stated that pieces can't go against their original personalities.
Yasu KILLS people in episode 1-4, that's a fact.

That mean she had the will to kill people even in the real world if you follow both of these facts that basically make Umineko what it is.
Also you are a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630176
>people still don't realize that Yasu/Beatrice is a scapegoat

Oh my fucking...you guys.

This...this is un-fucking believable. Can anyone here comprehend what they read? Anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630224
Meta-Beatrice is a scapegoat.
Yasu really planned to kill people, she didn't but that doesn't change anything.

Why are you guys so stupid? Are you unable to understand such a simple novel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630236
So then why did Battler forgive everything, huh? You think he would completely forgive some murderous bitch who planned to slaughter his entire family?

Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>If the epitaph is solved, I will return everything, including the interest already collected.
>I keep my promises.
>Twilight depictions in the first two 'answer arcs' revolve around staged, fake deaths

Deaths were meant to be a staged game to give Battler a mystery to solve. The message bottles, and therefore the mystery itself with Yasu as the culprit, are stated in EP7 to have been fiction written to save people from the horrible truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630240

Battler is as selfish. He may.

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>>6630250
Every single person who figures out the truth treats Yasu as a noble, tragic heroine who needs to be saved. Not just Battler. Will, Lion, even Bern. Bern does not mock Yasu because she's a delusional murderer. Bern mocks her because she was trying to save people and failed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630240
Considering his attitude at the end of EP7, he doesn't seem to hold any ill-will towards the culprit, even stating that there are no 'bad' people on the island.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630250
>herp a derp I'll completely disregard a character and their motivations to make my theory work

Is what I'm getting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630240
Because he is a fictional character too of course

>>6630249
The first 2 answer arc weren't staged by Beatrice idiot, of course they are different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630261
They're staged by people who know the truth and are written to give more blatant hints as to what's going on. Hints for the intent of staged, fake deaths are in the question arcs too, they're just more subtle. Hell, they practically hand it to you outright with Kumasawa and Gohda in EP4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630254
And it's never even hinted that she didn't have intent to kill people.
Stop seeing correlations where there aren't.

The whole purpose of episode 7 was to show why Yasu did what she did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630268
They are staged by people who certainly don't want the ones they fight against to know the truth.
Once again you are being completely retarded.

Beatrice wanted Battler to know the truth, Lambda in episode 5 and Battler in episode 6 certainly didn't have that intention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630269
>The whole purpose of episode 7 was to show why Yasu did what she did.
Do you understand what Yasu actually did? She created a bunch of fictional murders. So, yes, EP7 was there to explain why she wrote a bunch of murder mysteries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630269
What part of "I will return everything collected if the epitaph is solved" don't you understand?

>The whole purpose of episode 7 was to show why Yasu did what she did.

Why she did what she did in the fictional mystery she wrote with herself as the culprit. The entire mystery is a coded message to Battler where what she wanted him to discover was her "motive", because she and Battler bonded primarily over mysteries when they fell in love. She gave him a mystery where "the heart" was the central point because he was bitching about the lack thereof in mysteries as a kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630277
No, she created the situation that made the whole box island possible.
Sometime I wonder if you guys even know how to read.

[Anonymous No.]

IT'S LIKE IT'S REALLY ANTI-MYSTERY VS. ANTI-FANTASY AGAIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630276
Will spells out to us in EP7 that 5 and 6 were there to give tons of extra hints. EP6 is a confession to show Battler has a total understand of Beato's game. One of the first things Battler solved in order to get Erika to fuck off once he understood everything was "the twilight deaths are faked."

[Anonymous No.]

She even prepared LOADED GUNS for fuck's sake, and let's not forget the money she prepared for her accomplices.
It's really a wonder how delusional some people can be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630297
The guns she stuck in a room she wasn't expecting people to find. And yes, the money like the gold bars she dragged out in EP2 in order to bribe the parents to go along with her staged mystery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630292
The only reason Battler faked deaths was because he didn't want to kill his family even if it was on paper.
Once again he didn't want Erika to know the truth, why the fuck would he give her more hints that Beatrice.

What he showed to prove that he understood everything was Beatrice's heart which has nothing to do with the murders.
And it did show it without any subtlety I may add, see the hours spent on Shannon and Kanon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630304
She thought that people could find the room since it was a game.
And she even says herself that she planned to kill them with these guns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630315
Yes, and in EP3 Eva admits to Battler that she's the culprit that killed everyone. Case closed everyone!

[Anonymous No.]

I guess that show that the Umineko fags really are stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630311
Yes, let's ignore that it's consistent with what was revealed in EP5, that the deaths were staged to be faked, in EP4, that the deaths were staged to be faked, EP3, that had the same setup as EP6, EP2, that showed bribery shenanigans with the parents going on, and EP1, where Beatrice's letter from the fucking beginning guaranteed that she had a way to give back all the lives she would "collect".

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630322

I knew it was the bitch voiced by Miki Itou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630327
And let's not forget that the fucking first rule of Umineko is that all the fictions could have happened and that people really do die without a doubt, killed by Yasu, in episode 1-4.
But yeah let's disregard the primordial rule of Umineko that is even repeated several times at the end of episode 7.
Because it would ruin our shipping.

Awesome fandom Umineko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630342
>all the fictions could have happened
Where was this stated to be a rule? You're saying a thousand year old witch could have really materialized on the island and killed everyone through locked doors? Because that's what the stories put forth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630342
>Because it would ruin our shipping.

No one mentioned shipping.

You're really hung up on this, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630342
Yes. I'm so mad that Yasu designed herself as the culprit, necessitating giving herself a how and a why, in her fictional mysteries that were written to save people and reach out to Battler. How could anyone like such a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630355
The fucking Schroedinger box rule that was stated times and times again in every episodes since the third and even in the seventh.
And the whole fantasy thing is irrelevant in that you know since it's also a rule that all the murders have to be possible for a human.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630362
Save people? You know everyone died a while ago right? Who could she save?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630375
"To save the people who would be hurt by this truth [the Tea Party depiction]."

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630371
The Schroedinger's box rule that states anything is possible to be depicted with equal legitimacy, fantasy included?

You do remember that Lion tried to reassure Ange that the Tea Party characterization wasn't real and the person murdering people wasn't "her real mother" because he thought it was another game, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630402
And Leon was wrong as Bern proved just after, so what?
The characterization has the be relevant in the real world, otherwise not only does it break the primordial rule, it also make everything that happened in episode 1-6 pointless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630418
Lion was proven wrong not on the basis of his argument, but because Bern told them it wasn't a game, it was reality. Nothing about Lion's understanding about what could or couldn't be depicted through a game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630429
And what made Ange push over the edge?
When Bern showed another fiction where Kyrie killed people when she had the opportunity.
Which show that they both values the characterization of the pieces in the gameboards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630371

I killed that cat with Hawking's gun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630445
Uh, no. What made Ange lose it was Bern confirming for her that this was real, not a game. Before that she implicitly agreed with Lion that she was free to reject the characterization if it was another game.

[Anonymous No.]

too much general, not enough Yasu

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630583
No matter what gender or combination of genders Yasu is, I love him/her

[Anonymous No.]

>umineko
>good

[Anonymous No.]

So how do the dual choices work into this if the tea party situation is pretty much the truth? Is it basically going to be a Higurashi Bern saves the day deal again, with Beatrice 1 never dying at childbirth and thus the Uroshima's live a fairly sinless life?

[Anonymous No.]

I love how Evafags like to come into pro-Yasu threads and lord it over them, explaining how no one should be allowed to like Yasu because she's an evil whore.

Meanwhile Eva shot her sister-in-law and tried to cover it up, let the bomb go off without even attempting to save Battler, and treated Ange like shit when the going got rough even though she did have noble intentions at first. She ain't that much better, guys.

[Anonymous No.]

>japanese-italian male
>becoming a passable trap

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630704
Oh, I forgot to mention that she basically cheered when Kyrie killed Rosa.

She only started condemning Kyrie after her own immediate family members were killed. Just sayin'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630704

>Meanwhile Eva shot her sister-in-law and tried to cover it up, let the bomb go off without even attempting to save Battler,

If you missed it, she shot Battler because she thought he was the murderer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630715
That...was in EP3? EP7 never shows what happens to him, in case you haven't read it yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630704
EVA IS A TRUE HERO

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630768

Oh, I don't know what happens on the gameboard of EP7.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630811

All of the adults solve the Epitaph, meet Yasu dressed as Beato in the underground gold room. She explains how the bomb on the island works to them, tells them how she planned on killing them all with guns (which she has there), gives them a credit card with 1 billion yen on it, Eva and Natsuhi start fighting over everything while Eva is holding a gun.

Eva accidentally kills Natsuhi in the tussel (ala Jessica getting blinded in Ep3), Krauss jumps at her with a gun, Hideyoshi tries to stop him, Krauss shoots his own head off by accident. Eva comes up with an idea to cover it up (blow up the island and have the rest of them get away). Rosa disagrees and threatens to tell the police- Kyrie shoots her in the back.

Kyrie reveals she plans to get it all for her and Rudolf, shoots Hideyoshi, then shoots Eva (but actually misses and Eva just faints), and then kills Yasu. Kyrie and Rudolf both take guns and go to kill everyone else. Rudolf kills George, Kyrie kills Jessica, then Rudolf calls out Battler and wants to try to get him to go along with them to Kuwadorian. Kyrie kills all the servants and Maria.

Eva wakes up, meets Rudolf out by the chapel (where he called Battler to, who hasn't shown up yet), and kills him with one of the remaining guns. She then confronts Kyrie in the rose garden, kills her, and tells her that she'll shut everything up in a cat box and tell Ange that until the end, she was a loving mother.


It never shows what happens to Battler.

[Anonymous No.]

How are people getting the 2nd half of ep 7, did somebody translate and rough edit the 2nd part and put it up as txt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630948
Most of the people in this thread would like you to believe they read it themselves, but they wouldn't be arguing over stupid shit (like the fact that Yasu clearly isn't an evil whore) if they had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630948
Most of us read it with a translator.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630978

How do you go about doing that? Waiting for a patch release is getting boring.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6630985

ATLAS + AGTH

Note that you'll just get a lot of broken english and have to infer yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying that you can get an accurate portrayal of everything Yasu through ATLAS

[Anonymous No.]

>>6631068
>implying that you can get an accurate portrayal of anything at all through ATLAS
Fixed. ATLAS is pure gibberish unless you already have a decent grasp of Japanese and use it exclusively as a supplement.

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>>6630985

The patch is coming out Saturday. Chronotrig just said so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6631072
>>6631068
>>6630992

I guess I'll wait

HS Latin for 3 years and nothing more ; ;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6631072
Why the fuck would anyone with a decent grasp of Japanese use ATLAS+AGTH anyway? It'd just hinder you, nothing else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6631157

?

That's what it's MADE FOR. It's for looking up kanji you don't know, you're not supposed to actually use it for full translations.

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>>6631205
AGTH yeah, ATLAS not so much since it's pretty useless even for translating individual words.

[Anonymous No.]

A barely cleaned up babelfish umineko ep would be fun just to see what new theories people could come up with.

[Anonymous No.]

you guys don't get it at all, ITS FUCKING MAGIC, MAGIC FUCKING EVERYWHERE /JP/ IS TO LOGICAL TO SEE IT.

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>>6631205
Yes AGTH is useful and should be used because it saves you time. But AGTH + ATLAS? Hell no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6631082
Awesome.

Guess I should finally get around to getting the episode.

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>>6630704

mfw I'm an Evafag and I'm the one who said she could have just keep herself in the kitchen.

That's why I hate all those Evafags after EP7, she is the same bitch she always was, you can't whiteknight Eva and say Yasu is a slut.

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>>6633794

Because most of the Evafags after EP7 are the ones who only read the spoilers and are worshipping her as BATMAN!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6631263
Fucking yasu, how does it work?

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>>6634164

Yeah, maybe after seeing the nice face she makes while arguing with Rosa not caring she and her husband just killed a couple of people they stop forgetting what happened before "lol I'm protecting the little girl"

Seriously, Eva proved she had a strong maternal instinct since EP1, and also that she was a bitch. What's new on EP7? That it's Ange?

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>>6634189

Fucking magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6633794
I also love Eva. But Batman Evafags who insist she's a big damn hero and Yasu is an evil whore can go suck it.

[Anonymous No.]

Not really related to the topic at hand, but it felt like a waste to start a new thread for something like this.

After playing the 50% patch, I noticed rather suddenly that while we saw all the rest of the stakes, Mammon's equivalent never showed her face. Does she show up later? Or is it meant to imply that Mammon was Shannon herself, or Yasu?

Not that I'm expecting some STAGGERING REVELATION to come from this, but it's gonna bug me if I don't know.

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>>6634489
I hope you don't think Shannon and Yasu are different people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634489
Mammon is the 4th eldest sister, so as other people have already assumed it makes sense if she represented Yasu. Since all the others were older than her, and Berune and Asune were younger.

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>>6634496
>my face

I mean, if the rest of the stakes were based on real maids, maybe Yasu filled in the final slot with 'Shannon' and just updated the image later to distinguish them.

So it's really the same thing if Shannon or Yasu are Mammon. But it would be kind of interesting if Yasu characterized him/herself as the incarnation of greed.

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>>6634489
Mammon shows up later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634382

It's just so hilarious re reading the EP7 spoiler threads when it came out. Seriously the amount of bullshit that BATMAN meme turned out

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634539
It's more hilarious reading theory threads before episode 7 came out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634547

Or the rage war between SHkanonfags and anti-Shkanonfags

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634552
Oh, I remember those. Every thread would turn into a "hurl as many insults as you can" thread. Good times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634552
Admitted former anti-Shkanontricefag here who's totally cool with it now. Good times though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634575
>>6634552
Stopped thinking already, huh? Well, looking forward to Shkanonfags' agony after EP8.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634588

What ever makes you happy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634588
Joke post, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634639

Who knows? Maybe that anon wants to create a shitstorm but its too late now. It would have worked before EP7 but now...

[Anonymous No.]

Fucking Yasu, why are you so cute? Each time I see OP's pic it warms my heart.

[Anonymous No.]

Was Yasu phone or was that fantasy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6634575
>>6634552

What was the theory posed by anti-shakanontrice folks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6636548
I think the most common alternate theory was Kanon=Kinzo? I dunno, I accepted Shkanon, but I didn't want them to be Beatrice because I didn't like them and I'm a Beatofag.

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>>6636623
Shannontrice was completely obvious as soon as Virgilia showed up. Beatrice's mentor=Virgilia=Kumasawa. In other words, Beatrice's true identity was someone who had Kumasawa as her mentor. Guess who that would be?
God, now I'm reminded of the EP4 days when you shipperfags thought that there was a human Beato who just happened to switch places with Shannon on the day of the promise, and that Shannon just happened to die for no reason before Battler came back.

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>>6636489
I'd assume that Natsuhi would've been able to recognise the voice, especially with the number of people on the island narrowing things down and moreso if it was someone who was on the island for a lot of the time anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

BEATO IS ALIVE IN MY HEART

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>>6636713
Given how much shit the pony theory and its variants were able to solve as a whole with EP4, I don't feel too badly about missing "the human Beatrice also had Shannon as an imaginary friend." But wanting a wholly seperate human Beato was on the wrong track, sure.

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>>6636726
AND IN MINE'S TOO.

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>>6636713
>a human Beato who just happened to switch places with Shannon on the day of the promise
Oh come on, it was sort of plausible. Easily explained with her getting the chance to see the rest of the family.

>that Shannon just happened to die for no reason before Battler came back.
That you came up with yourself just now though.

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>>6636755
The hints about Shannon seeming "different" and special attention being paid to Shannon whenever six years ago was talked about did turn out to be important, too, just not exactly in the way people interpreted it.

Personally, as a former ponyfag, I'm really satisfied with the answer and pretty good overall about what we managed to solve before it was revealed.