http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOshw4kIGR4 This is why I'll never get a job and embroil myself in the mindless consumerism that has seized the minds of everyone with a fixed wage. I'll never be a puppet of corporations who want me to exchange my time-consuming work for worthless bauble. NEET 4 LYFE.

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Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:42:44 2010 No.6548370 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOshw4kIGR4

This is why I'll never get a job and embroil myself in the mindless consumerism that has seized the minds of everyone with a fixed wage. I'll never be a puppet of corporations who want me to exchange my time-consuming work for worthless bauble.
NEET 4 LYFE.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:44:44 2010 No.6548376 File: 175 KB, 1000x1000, alice funny face 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm sorry, what? Do you think that all people who aren't unemployed act like niggers?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:50:44 2010 No.6548390 Sad, isn't it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:52:44 2010 No.6548396 So you'll be homeless or a leech on welfare programs?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:53:44 2010 No.6548401 >>6548390 There are retards in every society, I don't really see how this is any different.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu Dec 2 06:54:44 2010 No.6548405 Isn't that the BGM from Elona?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:55:44 2010 No.6548407 File: 11 KB, 130x179, 1290804331092.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >as mystery missiles launch just off our shores

>>	None !FalosJ9ma6 Thu Dec 2 06:56:44 2010 No.6548408 >>6548405 One "used in it" I'd say, but yes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:58:44 2010 No.6548417 >>6548405 First thing that hit my mind, too. It's a public domain MP3, so anyone can use it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:58:44 2010 No.6548418 sounds like the opposite viewpoint than the one you are trying to portray.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 06:59:44 2010 No.6548421 >>6548370 Can't you , you know, just get your job and use that money to sustain yourself instead of giving in to consumerism? Apply a NEET perspective to things or something?

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:00:44 2010 No.6548429
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>Fuck corporations! They're leeching off of everyone's lifestyle! I'm going to buy cheap-ass stuff made in China! That'll really stick it to the man!
>Shit, why is our economy failing and why does China own everything? FUCKING CORPORATIONS, THIS IS YOUR FAULT!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:01:28 2010 No.6548430 thats naice, but check out my doobs

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:01:44 2010 No.6548431 Until your parents kick you out or the Government stops your benefits......

>>	Nitori's faceless !FRIENDgj1s Thu Dec 2 07:02:44 2010 No.6548439 File: 375 KB, 1200x1200, ayukkuri.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548429 go back to raping, ayukkuri

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:04:44 2010 No.6548442 File: 28 KB, 360x249, somalian rpgs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No, I believe this is what a completely broken society looks like. You can keep your lack of consumerism and your moralism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:06:44 2010 No.6548446 >>6548429 Missing the point entirely.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:08:44 2010 No.6548451 >>6548446 What is the point exactly? ohhh nooooooo our society is breaking apart

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:08:44 2010 No.6548452 This guy sounds like a really calm version of Mad Stan from batman Beyond.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:08:44 2010 No.6548453 >>6548451 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:09:44 2010 No.6548457 OP (or whoever made the video) did you know that Black Friday happens every year?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:10:44 2010 No.6548459 >>6548453 You should probably stop bawwwing about how awful it is to be able to enjoy a luxurious lifestyle. Seriously, what, you want to go live in mud huts, draw water from a well, and live off your own animals? Fine, go do it. Nobody's stopping you.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:11:44 2010 No.6548463
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Nobody cares if you hate consumer society and want to see it burn. That's either an ethical, philosophical, or political issue, none of which belong in /jp/. It's only a NEET issue extremely tangentially, and has absolutely nothing to do with otaku culture.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:12:44 2010 No.6548467 >>6548370 wow! talk about consumerism madness out of control, is this the kind of culture America has today? no wonder their economy is going downhill very fast

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:12:44 2010 No.6548468 >>6548463 Are you new here, normal?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:13:44 2010 No.6548470 >>6548451 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting and go back to /a/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:13:44 2010 No.6548472 File: 325 KB, 382x417, cat confused.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548467 >exuberant consumerism contracts the economy

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:14:44 2010 No.6548476 >>6548468 No anonymous, you are the one who's new here......

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:14:44 2010 No.6548478

I don't see the big deal with people competing over slashed prices. It does get out of hand though...what with that security guard being trampled to death a couple years ago. But aside from that, how is this any different than when shops offer marked down prices for specific items any other time of the year?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:14:44 2010 No.6548481 Now that I think about it, Being a NEET isn't directly associated with otaku culture, is it? I mean, there are NEETs that aren't otaku.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:15:44 2010 No.6548483 File: 41 KB, 500x500, 1286089250056m2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548468 Get the fuck out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:15:44 2010 No.6548484 >>6548478 It's awful because corporations are making money. This must be stopped. I for one welcome our new communist overlords.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:16:44 2010 No.6548487 >>6548481 No, it's not. NEET roleplaying is something that /a/ has been doing here for a long time, however.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:17:44 2010 No.6548489 >>6548481 what makes you otaku? i mean i'm definatley a NEET and i read a few mangas. i dont think you could call a salaryman in japan an otaku just because he reads a manga on the train to work.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:18:44 2010 No.6548496 >>6548484 >>>/a/ >>>/v/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:19:44 2010 No.6548500 >>6548489 Get out of /jp/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:20:44 2010 No.6548504 >>6548496 If you honestly think anti-consumerism is /jp/ then I think you're the one who needs to relocate, perhaps go hang with your hipster friends in /r9k/.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:22:44 2010 No.6548510

>>6548489

I think an "otaku" is basically someone obsessed with 2D and figurines etc. Like a niche hobby. It just so happens that most (or a lot of) people into this type of thing hate modern culture for various reasons and prefer to reject modernity to live comfortably.

I have a friend who is technically NEET, but he is the most normal normalfag ever. Getting drunk and cumming in his male underwear over headkicks in UFC etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:22:44 2010 No.6548515 File: 52 KB, 400x373, haha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw North Amerikkka is slowly turning into a third world country

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:22:44 2010 No.6548516

I don't get how any of you can complain about something like this when the entire otaku culture is based on consumerism. People spend their money buying all kinds of stuff they really don't need...figurines, plushies, manga, video games, pillows shaped like their favorite manga chick, etc.

So what is the problem really?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:23:44 2010 No.6548518 >>6548504 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:23:44 2010 No.6548519 >>6548504 Are you that pig disgusting female runt from a few weeks ago, preaching normalcy all over /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:23:44 2010 No.6548520 >>6548516 ... most of us don't. It's just the one retard and his friends.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:24:44 2010 No.6548522 File: 10 KB, 200x217, 1286566474301.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548515 >has consumer goods galore >third world country Maybe nigger rich but not third world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:24:44 2010 No.6548524 File: 36 KB, 477x354, 1278441875590.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548515 >MFW first, second, and third world classifications aren't based upon wealth but upon ideology, and America hasn't changed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:25:44 2010 No.6548526 >>6548519 >female >on the internet Yeahhhhh you definitely need to go back to /r9k/.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:25:44 2010 No.6548527 File: 277 KB, 500x500, 1286089250056m3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For fuck's sake take this discussion somewhere else already.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:27:44 2010 No.6548538 >>6548527 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:27:44 2010 No.6548539 >>6548526 Christ, your posts are so shit we can see you from a mile away no matter what you poster. Seriously, go back to whatever board you come from.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:27:44 2010 No.6548540 >>6548520 Okay, but so what? If it makes them happy and they find enjoyment in collecting figures..what does it matter? Same applies to the black friday enthusiasts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:28:44 2010 No.6548544 >>6548538 I'll stop posting in this thread once it's dead.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:28:44 2010 No.6548545 File: 104 KB, 1000x760, reimu stares into your soul.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548539 But I'm already here.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:30:44 2010 No.6548548 >>6548516 I think the difference is, spending disablity pension money to "get closer" to your waifu, as opposed to working for a living in order to buy what advertising tells you, you want. I may be wrong.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:30:44 2010 No.6548549 >>6548544 It already is, you're the only one samefagging it up.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:30:44 2010 No.6548550 File: 57 KB, 550x400, forced meme.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548538 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:31:44 2010 No.6548556 >>6548549 It's clearly not dead. People are still bumping it with retarded metadiscussion.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:35:44 2010 No.6548577 I GIVE YOU MONEY, YOU DRAW MORE WAIFUS, I BUY FIGURES. Otaku culture is consumerism at its most beautiful shape. Deal with that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:35:44 2010 No.6548580 >>6548577 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:37:44 2010 No.6548590 >>6548580 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:38:44 2010 No.6548595 File: 236 KB, 365x311, 1272854764043.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548590 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:39:44 2010 No.6548600 I wander what the whore in this photo would think if she found this thread and read it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:39:44 2010 No.6548603

>>6548548
Ah. I see. Yeah I can understand how that may be a problem. People getting hypnotized in consumerism and spending every check they get on useless crap just because they saw an ad for it on tv...rather than saving their cash for something long term. Like their retirement.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:39:44 2010 No.6548605 >>6548595 /jp/ awesome as always.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:40:44 2010 No.6548612 >>6548600 She'd probably think that you were missing the point entirely, and that you should probably stop posting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:41:44 2010 No.6548616 >>6548522 Say that when the US ecconomy collapses. >>6548524 >America >ideology Backwardass patriotism and consumerism?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:41:44 2010 No.6548622 File: 7 KB, 251x200, LOL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >/jp/ - Otaku Culture >Otaku Culture >I'll never embroil myself in mindless consumerism

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:42:44 2010 No.6548631 >>6548622 >>>/b/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:43:44 2010 No.6548634 File: 67 KB, 403x376, cirno rage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548616 >Say that when the US economy collapses. >mvq you have no idea how an economy works

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:44:44 2010 No.6548637 >>6548631 Missing the point entirely. You should probably stop posting.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:44:44 2010 No.6548638
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>>6548616
>Backwardass patriotism and consumerism?

Well, the roots of first/second/third world labeling was in the cold war, so basically yes, that's pretty much it. That's a simplistic way to describe it, but it was a simple concept to begin with.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:45:44 2010 No.6548643 File: 93 KB, 500x333, 1279885512115.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The social norm I probably hate the most is consumerism. This is just one of the things wrong in this modern world.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:46:44 2010 No.6548648 >>6548638 Sorry, meant to say "root". Not plural. Meh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:48:44 2010 No.6548654 >>6548643 What would be your preferred alternative? Capitalism is the worst economic policy except for every other economic policy

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>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:51:44 2010 No.6548665 >>6548654 >>>/new/

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:52:44 2010 No.6548671 >>6548654 Churcill was a fat consumerist. Imptovements can always be made, but the politicians are too comfortable with their high income they get from the taxpayers pockets. Humanity is doomed if it doesn't rid itself from its selfishness.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:53:44 2010 No.6548674 >>6548654 >except for every other economic policy other than communism practiced under the conditions of anarchy. Fixed.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:53:44 2010 No.6548676 File: 279 KB, 700x700, 1285574640436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548671 What would be your preferred alternative? You're speaking in platitudes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:54:44 2010 No.6548677 File: 170 KB, 500x500, 1289988710443 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Did this video make a big fuss out of a day? One single fucking day of the year?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:54:44 2010 No.6548681 >>6548674 That's a good one. A real kneeslapper.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:56:44 2010 No.6548687

Great video OP. However, I didnt need to watch that video to decide this. I have never given in to marketing. I cant remember ever buying something because I saw a commercial for it. I do what I want. I decide what I want and go for it, I dont let other people decide for me.

Those people are animals, look at how they were herded, look how fat and ripe they are. Look how the corporations bring them in and sheer everything they have. It truly is a farm. All that money will go to China.

Its sad but I will have to disagree that this country is fucked. If things get bad enough, we can always "discover oil" in China. If things get bad enough, we can always go to war and pillage some poor country, looks like North Korea is setting them selves up for a hert. Soon as we get Obama out of office and a nice Republican in, we can fix this economy. But we cant fix our shitty population.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:57:44 2010 No.6548690 >>6548681 I know. I also found it hilarious that you pretended the obvious answer doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 07:58:44 2010 No.6548694 >>6548687 >Republican >Fix economy. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You poor, deluded redneck illiterate fuck. I bet you watch Faux News and NOT just to laugh at what idiots they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:00:44 2010 No.6548705 >>6548690 I'm glad you think so highly of human nature as to believe communism with anarchy would actually work outside of very small-scale communities. I really do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:01:44 2010 No.6548709 File: 321 KB, 800x600, penne unyu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6548694 >Democrat >Fix economy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You poor, deluded hipster yuppie fuck. I bet you watch NBC and NOT just to laugh at what idiots they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:02:44 2010 No.6548714 >>6548694 I dont watch TV.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:02:44 2010 No.6548715 >>6548694 I disagree with the guy you're quoting, but fuck off back to /new/ or /b/ or wherever you crawled here from.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:02:44 2010 No.6548718 Communism actually cannot work and it's not just due to human nature, but due to the fact that there are no objective values of labour or capital goods. All attempts to assign hard values to them have failed.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:03:44 2010 No.6548720

>>6548687

>a nice Republican

We tried that for 8 years, it didn't work. Get rid of the notion of political parties and elect a competent individual regardless of party affiliation and the problem will be fixed.

>>6548643

I take it you don't buy any sort of collectibles like the rest of the people on this board, then? Most of us somehow are able to get hold of disability checks which go straight to buying collectible goods from Japan...but you're different, right?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:03:44 2010 No.6548721 >>6548709 Are you retarded? Both Republicans and Democrats won't do shit. >get a nice Republican into office >fix the economy oh lawd

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:04:44 2010 No.6548724 >>6548721 Just holding up a mirror to you. Do you honestly believe a Democrat would?

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:04:44 2010 No.6548726

>>6548705
I'm unhappy to learn that you think "human nature," which is the culmination of millions of years of evolution, is immutable. Furthermore, it is also saddening to find that you have made the mistake of thinking communities need to expand beyond the very small scale.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:04:44 2010 No.6548727

>>6548709
>He thinks that I'm a Democrat because I call out Republicans as the idiots they truly are.

Yeah, no. I'm not a Democrat. But you have confirmed your idiocy and the fact that you watch Faux News, because that's probably the reason why you automatically assumed that if I make fun of a Republican I must be a Democrat, because they apparently only know of the existence of two parties.

Either way, you're an idiot.

Enjoy the fact that we're in this shit because of dumbass Republican idiots like you.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:04:44 2010 No.6548728

>>6548694

Hold your horses, I think he was saying "nice Republican" in as sarcastic/facetious a way as he possibly could.

After Bush, no sane person would ever trust the GOP again so quickly. Then again much of America truly is not sane anymore. How can we have fallen so far, in so short a time period..

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:05:44 2010 No.6548733 >>6548724 I think you should read my post again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:06:44 2010 No.6548735 >>6548720 Abusing government benefits to buy figs and shit is a bit different than working, paying taxes and buying TVs, George Forman grills and other bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:07:44 2010 No.6548743 >>6548727 >he thinks I'm a republican We better end this shit right here, okay? I'm not even American.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:07:44 2010 No.6548744 >>6548676 Capitalism would easily be improved if large corporations weren't able to pull the strings and dictate the market and large changes were made public aware, right now everything happens behind the curtains.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:07:44 2010 No.6548745

>>6548728

I bet the Russians wondered the same thing after the USSR collapsed. Then again there were signs of it coming years before it actually happened.

I don't think the US could splinter, it could just get really really weak though. I'm only staying at the moment because it is still the leading pinnacle of scientific research, especially in my field (molecular bio). If some other country unoubdtedly tops the U.S in research and I can get a position there, I'm fucking out of here faster than Cirno's hymen getting torn at a /jp/ meetup.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:07:44 2010 No.6548746 >>6548735 You're right on the "abusing government benefits" vs. "working" part, but figs are even worse than expensive TVs and grills as far as consumerism goes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:07:44 2010 No.6548748 I like how all these mouthbreathers read, "Republican" and are now making that the focus. You guys are no better than the sheep in the video.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:09:44 2010 No.6548753 >>6548745 >typo *undoubtedly

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:09:44 2010 No.6548755 >>6548744 Capitalism is a philosophy which inevitably blinds the populace and empowers those who already hold the most wealth. You can't truly "fix" it--the best you can do is hope it never breaks beyond repair.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:09:44 2010 No.6548756

>>6548743

Did you make this post?
>>6548687

That's who I'm talking to, or at least the one I'm calling a Republican. If you're just so genuinely stupid that you think disliking Republican idiots makes me a Democrat, then my post still applies to you. Fuck off back to whatever board you crawled from.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:09:44 2010 No.6548758

>>6548735

Yeah, because you can actually cook shit with a grill or use the TV for multiple forms of entertainment. They have uses.
Abusing government funds to buy incredibly expensive paperweights makes no sense in the mind of a sane (well, normal) individual. That said, my room mates have no unearthly idea on why I just spent 126USD to get a Yukari figure, despite the fact that it's so fuckdamn prettyful.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:10:44 2010 No.6548760
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>>6548744
Okay, I would definitely agree with that. We would do far better having a freer market with no corporate welfare.

Given the power of lobbying it will never happen, but it's a nice pipedream.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:14:44 2010 No.6548783

>>6548758

I'm wandering what you're trying to say. I am not intending to troll in any way, but are you conflicted? Or basically saying it is still a ridiculour form of consumerism.

I think it seems obvious that waifu stuff, is basically designed to sell. 90% of all this stuff is basically fanservice at the end of the day. I don't really give a shit.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:14:44 2010 No.6548787

>>6548756

Well, the two party system makes people think strange things of others. If you don't like X, you're obviously Y. It doesn't even cross the mind of most politically apt people that there is such a thing as a "moderate." Hell, if it wasn't for party registration for voting I wouldn't even be a Democrat...although I could have just made up a Party name for the hell of it.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:16:44 2010 No.6548791

Buying figurines and most forms of entertainment is consumerism at its purest, hate to break it to you. The working person spends his money on cable TV or the latest album, /jp/ spends it on figs. Regular people just tend to incorporate a "keeping up with the Joneses" thing in their choice of consumption, but you're still living, consuming, dying.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:16:44 2010 No.6548793

>>6548783
I think he's pointing out the hypocrisy of criticizing people for being consumerist, claiming your superiority over them because you don't buy appliances when they're released at a discount on Black Friday, and then rushing to buy figs as soon as they're released.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:19:44 2010 No.6548809

>>6548720
>I take it you don't buy any sort of collectibles like the rest of the people on this board, then? Most of us somehow are able to get hold of disability checks which go straight to buying collectible goods from Japan...but you're different, right?

I guess I am a normalfag in that department, I also live in a capitalist society. A hermit lifestyle has always appealed to me though, living outside of social norms, living only for myself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:19:44 2010 No.6548811 >>6548793 You have to buy figures as soon as they are released, they tend to sell out and never be reprinted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:19:44 2010 No.6548815 >>6548787 >"moderate" Since "moderates" are between the Democrats (right) and Republicans (extreme far right), they're more appropriately called "far right." True moderates would probably join the Green Party or something.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:20:44 2010 No.6548817

>>6548791
>"keeping up with the Joneses"

Maybe this is really what disgusts some people on /jp/ and pointing a finger at consumerism is misdirected anger. As usual, I really don't know. As I said, waifu stuff is basically designed to sell, playing on peoples emotions, and I really don't care so much.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:21:44 2010 No.6548821 >>6548811 You have to buy appliances on Black Friday before they're all sold out or you don't get the huge discount.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:22:44 2010 No.6548823

>>6548815
I would consider myself a moderate. Since there is no chance of a third party taking the election I don't involve myself in politics, just theoretical political discussion.

I don't vote and will not be guilted into voting. Nobody represents my views and I'm not going to endorse someone who I fundamentally disagree with for the sake of saying I voted.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:22:44 2010 No.6548824 >>6548815 You're the retard for thinking that being moderate places you "between" Republican and Democrat ideals.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:23:44 2010 No.6548826

>>6548783

My original post was meant to say something along the lines of you're a pot calling the kettle a nigger. "CONSUMERISM BAD! LOOK AT THEM BUY SHIT! BRB, GOTTA BUY FIGS" is hypocritical, especially since that figures/fan merchandise has no practical purpose at all. Nobody buys a George Foreman grill to have it sit on their counter and do nothing, but that's exactly the reason why people buy figures.

Practicality and function trumps aesthetic value. It's why I would buy something like, a set of frying pans and kitchen stuff over a figure. The one thing I'm against with is if I have a frying pan and the "Super Ultra-Luxe Frying Pan 5000" or some shit comes out, I will not mindlessly throw out the old shit. I still drive a used car that's beat to shit since it's still a god damn car. I'm not in favor of stupid "upgrade" consumerism and I'm not a fan of aesthetic consumerism above practicality, but it the latter is the lesser evil. It's much easier to buy something to last than to buy a new thing every 3 months that costs 3x as much as the original.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:24:44 2010 No.6548835 >>6548821 That doesnt mean you can never buy the model of refrigerator that you want, ever again.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:25:44 2010 No.6548837 >>6548824 >implying I didn't just say the opposite of that Good job. Now you should try applying for disability on the basis of mental retardation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:27:44 2010 No.6548852 >>6548835 It does mean that you'll never see the money you could have saved ever again, however. Enough money to buy a figure, perhaps.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:28:44 2010 No.6548858

>>6548815

A moderate doesn't mean you're completely unaffiliated with everything, it just means you can accept some ideals and reject others...it also means that you're somewhat sensible and can listen to the reasonable arguments of another without flaming them. I have a friend who's a Tea Partier but he actually makes a number of good points that the media doesn't show since nutjobs making asses of themselves is far more entertaining, and he actually respects the opinions of Democrats.

I hate bleeding-heart Liberals and gun-toting Conservatives with a passion since they refuse to listen to anyone else's arguments and don't understand compromise, but I do tend to side with liberals more often so long as they're not complete idiots. Most conservatives I've met are absolutely fucking stupid, but they're naturally stupid without the party affiliation.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:29:44 2010 No.6548861

>>6548821

A lot of the stuff being sold on Black Friday is actually surplus shitty goods that the companies are trying to get off for as cheap as possible. The big-deal sales are often on items you honestly wouldn't even consider normally due to not being as good as other options... only now, you want it, because it's like 70% off MSRP. Better to sell junk for a small profit than just give it away after having it shelfwarm too long.

They take their obscure bad sellers and turn them into loss-leaders, since they wouldn't actually lose that much by doing so. And people just lap that shit up.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:31:44 2010 No.6548870

>>6548835

Why buy that model in the first place once it's new? Wait until a better model trumps it and the first one drops in price to a ridiculous degree and buy it then so long as you don't need a functioning refrigerator that day.

As for the "keeping up with the Joneses" argument...I prefer the idea of "mooching off of the Joneses." Make friends who have nicer things than you do. Spend a lot of time with said friends. You now have access to nice things without paying a goddamn cent and you benefit over the mindlessness of others.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:31:44 2010 No.6548871

>>6548837

You mean the reason you get disability? Sorry, but that's not my problem. You need to learn how to fucking read, you idiot.

>Since "moderates" are between the Democrats (right) and Republicans (extreme far right), they're more appropriately called "far right."

So you either interpreted his use of "moderate" as the one you're referring to there, or you're talking to someone who isn't in this conversation at all. Either one makes you absolutely retarded and incapable of any reasonable degree of reading comprehension.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:32:44 2010 No.6548872

>>6548852
Your counter argument is failing hard. The point of buying figures as soon as they are released is not to get a discount, its because there is a high probability that you will never get them again. Most figures are collectors items that retain their value. Its to completely separate things.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:33:44 2010 No.6548876 This thread is so shitty.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:34:44 2010 No.6548879

>>6548861
Except that top of the line things with universally high reviews still usually get at least 20% off.

It's to sell extra stock, PERIOD. None of this "CORPORATE CONSPIRACY OMG" bullshit. Whether the old stock is good doesn't matter if you can't fucking sell it.

Go back to 911truth.org or wherever the fuck you're from.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:34:44 2010 No.6548882 >>6548870 Did you even read the post the link went to, you are off in another country with your post. The amount of irrelevance in your post could fill a bus.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:35:44 2010 No.6548885 >>6548872 If I buy a rare collector's edition of an athletic shoe I will never wear, I'll still be just as consumerist. Figurines aren't special just because they're not mainstream.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:36:44 2010 No.6548887 >>6548871 >ignore half of the post >ignore everything about the quoted part which clearly disproves your own statement >try to pretend you're a successful troll while fighting off the tears I take pity on you, bro. I really do.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:37:44 2010 No.6548888

>>6548826
>Practicality and function trumps aesthetic value.

I think this is something you don't quite understand. The value of a fig may serve a very important purpose for the individual buying it. It may not be practical in the same way as a grill, but I think it very much does serve a purpose for the people, like myself, who do spend ludicrous amount of money on this stuff.

I agree though, it is somewhat hypocritical, but as I said in another post, I think this type of anger is misderected (in my opinion anyway). It is more disgust with people living for the other, "keeping up with the Joneses" and fretting about "fitting into the community" that is more disgusting. But yeah, I don't know at the end of the day.

How do you honestly feel though, walking through a shopping centre or mall, looking at the people who all look the same, all buying Lady Gaga or Katy Perry records or whatever?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:37:44 2010 No.6548889 >>6548887 >Projecting. >Thinks he's pitying me. lol

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:37:44 2010 No.6548890

>>6548861
Furthermore, there are advertised deals on items that actually don't blow balls, yes, however if you go to the store and wait outside all night like a faggot, if you weren't among the first like 20 people in line, too bad other 5000 people waiting to stampede for those deals you all came for... none of you get any of the actually good deals, because those are handed out on special vouchers only to the couple of guys at the very front of the line.

There's no real reason to mob up stores like OP's vid anymore. It just looks good for the companies to see their stores bustling full of people + it makes good press and generally companies rely on showing how jam-packed their stores were to build confidence in investors and expansion projects et cetera. This whole Black Friday thing is an exercise in forced artificial scarcity, being implemented to the max. Comparing it to us buying our figs online is truly an apples and oranges thing.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:37:44 2010 No.6548891

>>6548882

I go off on tangents a lot. That and I did see a post but forgot to quote it, so thought I would just refer to it. With a thread this long, it would seem that the post I'm referring to is difficult to find...but notice the clear paragraph break.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:39:44 2010 No.6548899 >>6548879 >>6548890

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:40:44 2010 No.6548905 >>6548889 I take pity on you, bro. I really do.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:40:44 2010 No.6548906

>>6548885
Its still consumerism, I agree but its not nearly the same level as black friday. People that trample other humans for a sale are being driven by greed. People who buy figures on the release day know its the only opportunity they will likely get. The refrigerator will always be there, the figure wont.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:41:44 2010 No.6548912 >>6548905 Go back to /b/, moron.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:42:40 2010 No.6548918 >>6548912 I take pity on you, bro. I really do.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:42:44 2010 No.6548915

>>6548890

Mindless consumerism is compared to mindless consumerism. Also, some people do get special stuff for preordering early online, no matter what it is.

On a completely different note, I don't hate Black Friday for the sheer number of people mindlessly buying shit, but for the fact that I have to deal with masses of people buying stupid shit. Working retail in one of the largest malls in the country on a high-profile shopping day is not very fun. There were exponentially more black people in the mall on Black Friday than I've ever seen at any other time of the year, and all of them came from the city...and I hate the city folk.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:42:44 2010 No.6548917

>>6548888
I don't think Black Friday has much to do with comparative consumerism, however. It's more about just saving money and getting good stuff for a price you wouldn't see any time else.

What would make for a good example of keeping up with the Joneses, however, would be waiting in line to get an iPad before anyone else.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:49:44 2010 No.6548945

>>6548890

Lastly, the way that Black Friday is handled online is fairly different from how it is handled at actual stores.

At a storefront, like half the crowd came because they saw some ad on TV for a $200 laptop, yet the store will carry literally 10-20 of those. That's hardly even a loss leader, it's just a huge ass piece of bait to lure people into the store. There are also other strategies used in stores such as giving every item in the store a new price tag that looks very similar to the tags of items actually on sale; people caught up in the excitement (and not functioning well mentally due to lack of sleep) easily mistake normally-priced stuff as sale items and plop it into the cart. They can't go check online or on their phones because they're too busy being rushed along because the whole atmosphere is RUSH RUSH RUSH BUY BUY BUY. It's truly an ingenious plan to get people to impulse buy as much shit as they can, complete with the waiting-up-all-night thing.

Online however, it is a much more legitimate endeavor. Stores that don't mislead and condition their consumers have legitimately good deals. Hence the online blitz is called Cyber Monday, not Black Friday. It's evident they're trying to distance themselves from the mass-marketing bullshit. Black Friday is now more important than Thanksgiving itself for many Americans.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:50:44 2010 No.6548948

>>6548888

I bought a Bern dakimakura during my first week in Japan, I definitely do understand what I'm talking about. It's more about the idea that "Yeah, I'm buying stupid shit, but fuck you I like my stupid shit."

>buying records

My thoughts...why the fuck are you buying something easily accessible for free?

Let's deal with something more practical that I have from experience. I've been driving the same car since I was 16. Sure, there have been nicer cars out there on the market that I would like to drive, but I'm fine with my shit car that I've been using for the past 5 years. Others I know will buy a new car every 1.5 years or so simply because their own model is out-of-date or some shit. The only time I buy something new is when the old thing I own is broken beyond repair or lost forever.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:51:44 2010 No.6548951

>>6548888
A grill isnt a necessity either. You can grill in your back yard with a some wood and sticks. Rushing to buy a grill because its on sale rather than because you will die with out it is a pure greed. Its much more sick than buying a figure because it touches you emotionally. However, if you are not feeding your family because you are spending money on grills or figures then you are scum either way.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:53:44 2010 No.6548954 Buy silver crash JP Morgan!

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:54:44 2010 No.6548956

>>6548951

I live in an apartment in the city. I have no backyard, so an electric grill is very useful to me...either that or a frying pan and functioning stove.

I have a frying pan, so I have no need for an electric grill at this time...although they CAN cook things much faster than my pan.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:55:44 2010 No.6548957

>>6548948
My car has 312,000 miles on it. There was a time when I would have cared about the car I was driving but life experience taught me that a car is a car, its all the same shit whos primary purpose is to get you from point A to point B. However a figure is not a figure, its a work of art. Each ones only purpose is to be beautiful, so each one is unique, no matter how small the difference is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:57:44 2010 No.6548966 >>6548956 Its still no more a necessity than a figure, thats my point. Being that neither is vital to life, it comes down to what drives you. Greed or Lust. Now that I categorized figures as Lust, they sound just as bad as black friday sales.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:58:44 2010 No.6548968

>>6548957

>a car is a car

Try telling that to people who are so gung-ho about replacing a fully functional car every year.

I'm thinking about replacing my car simply because the thing belongs in a scrap heap at this point. The door has a huge dent in it, the hood's bent, the back bumper's cracked, dashboard lights don't work all the time, and the passenger side window motor doesn't work anymore. When the engine finally gives, the car's gone.

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 08:59:44 2010 No.6548970 >>6548966 I don't hotglue my figures, don't call it lust.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 08:59:44 2010 No.6548972 File: 200 KB, 960x864, rich_saten.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you know what you're doing, you can make some "sick" (in NEET perspective) money on Black Friday sales. Pic related!

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 09:00:44 2010 No.6548975 Also, if you have neither a pan nor a stove, a small electric grill is much more practical and affordable than a stove and pan...which are necessities if you have no backyard with a tree.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:00:44 2010 No.6548976

>>6548966
Yes, but you wouldn't stay in line all night and trample people for those figures right? plus you're buying something that will be as good as the day you got it for the rest of your life, you're not buying some shitty laptop that will be outdated in 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:02:44 2010 No.6548981 >>6548976 >as good as the day you got it for the rest of your life Not necessarily. Quite a few things can damage figures.

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 09:03:44 2010 No.6548983 >>6548981 Assuming your cat doesn't knock it over or your place doesn't go up in flames, they're guaranteed for a very long time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:06:44 2010 No.6548991 >>6548983 Why would a figure... make fire? What?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:08:44 2010 No.6548995 >>6548983 Or you pollute the air too much, resulting in discoloration.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:08:44 2010 No.6548997

>>6548966

I dunno about that, Black Friday sales are 100% greed. Actually I wouldn't call it greed, I'd call it human conditioning on the part of the stores. It's not some huge conspiracy shit, they just want to make as much profit as possible from this because companies all want growth, -especially- to pull them free of an economic dire straits such as this year.

So some economists and statisticians and survey dudes did some.. surveying etc, and probably found that if the average customer got X% off on Y hot ticket items, he would spend Z more dollars overall on his christmas shopping than he would have if there were no deals going on. That's what Black Friday is all about, maximizing the Z. It's not greed or lust on the part of the consumer, it's greed on the part of the companies.

On the other hand, figurines are actually very difficult for us to get comparatively speaking. For one thing you literally cannot buy most of them unless you order directly from a Japanese site (or worse, some middleman marking it up), also there are exclusive Japan-only items that basically get smuggled out of the country via middlemen because the Japanese actively do NOT want their figures to become a worldwide thing. Rather than take the Black Friday sales strat of "the customer will buy more if he gets one or two things he really wants for less", hobby shops (and the companies that make figurines) take the strategy of "if the customer really wants this one thing only, IF he wants it enough, he will pay through the nose for it". Which is the exact same strategy used to sell art and other one-off items that you get for their exclusivity, rarity etc. Statues are collectibles... laptops, toasters and electric grills are (I hope for your sake) not. That is the difference here.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:08:55 2010 No.6548996 [DELETED]

>>6548981
thats becides the point, how a person stores his figures is a separate issue.

>>6548976

My car looks like it was in a meteor storm. My dome light hangs from the top on its wires. My driver door only opens from the out side and the radio only has one working speaker and no AM. However, it still runs like a champ and thats all that matters.
I dont buy figures but I know how people who do feel about them. I used to buy anime dvds and vns before the internet and fansubbing hit off. I lost it all in a move and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I would have to say that my Lust would drive me to do just about anything if the feeling was strong enough, my humanity couldn't dent my lust. However since I dont buy merchandise anymore I cant answer your question.

>>6548968

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 09:09:44 2010 No.6548998 >>6548991 >your place You could be cooking something, it catches fire, your house catches fire, your figures go with the house.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:10:44 2010 No.6549006

>>6548981
thats becides the point, how a person stores his figures is a separate issue.

>>6548976
I dont buy figures but I know how people who do feel about them. I used to buy anime dvds and vns before the internet and fansubbing hit off. I lost it all in a move and it was the best thing that ever happened to me. I would have to say that my Lust would drive me to do just about anything if the feeling was strong enough, my humanity couldn't dent my lust. However since I dont buy merchandise anymore I cant answer your question.
>>6548968
My car looks like it was in a meteor storm. My dome light hangs from the top on its wires. My driver door only opens from the out side and the radio only has one working speaker and no AM. However, it still runs like a champ and thats all that matters.

>fixed because something went horribly wrong

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:10:44 2010 No.6549007 At least the NEET life has taught us to be wise with our money, being broke all the time makes you treasure the little things you can afford.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:10:44 2010 No.6549010 >>6548995 I stopped smoking inside after peeling yellow/orange dust out of my pc. Now my figures are in my room I definitely won't be "polluting the air" in here. Also, smoking when NEET (or in general I suppose) is fucking stupid.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:12:44 2010 No.6549015 >>6549010 I call it self medicating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:12:44 2010 No.6549016 >>6549007 Makes me treasure my hard drives. 7tb of space, backups on everything and they are stored in disaster proof boxes. Even if the world ended, my music collection would live on.

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 09:14:44 2010 No.6549019 >>6549010 Maybe, but smoking a hookah with your room mates and watching stupid stuff on TV is still fun. So long as my figures are nowhere nearby, it's alright in my book.

Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:15:44 2010 No.6549023

>>6549015
But the research has shown that smoking a cigarette only relieves the symptoms of cigarette addiction. In other words, if you stop smoking, you'll feel the same as you do after smoking a cigarette all the time.

At least other drugs actually make you feel better for a while, so why not switch to something else?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:17:44 2010 No.6549027 >>6549023 Because I dont like things that change my state of mind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:17:44 2010 No.6549030 >>6549023 But cigarettes are a good way to kill time and NEETs have a lot of time on their hands. Plus they can keep you from turning into a fat blob. Not that smoking's any good but still.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:18:44 2010 No.6549033 >>6549023 nicotine rush? It also suppresses appetite

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:18:44 2010 No.6549035 >>6549023 Ah, taking 5 minutes to zone out and smoke a cigarette is different than not having that 5 minutes. Seriously. Drugs are overrated. If you want to be relatively clear headed, why would you smoke weed or shoot up smack?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:18:44 2010 No.6549036 >>6549030 Good point. If i didnt smoke I would never leave my chair or my room. I enjoy going out for a cigarette. Also never leaving your chair can give you blood clots and kill you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:20:44 2010 No.6549041 >>6549035 Hell yes, another good point. I look forward to the thinking I can do when Im away from everything outside smoking. Damn, i love smoking.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:21:44 2010 No.6549046 >>6549035 I'll also add, I smoke pipes as well. It forces you to relax. I could be having some severe anxiety, but an hour of gentle puffing is great. You feel real relaxed at the end of it. I treasure my pipe collection as well as my figs.

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Thu Dec 2 09:26:44 2010 No.6549057 >>6549046 Cigarettes make you look like a thug. Cigars make you look like a mogul. Pipes make you look like an educated man of leisure.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:29:44 2010 No.6549069 >>6549057 What look does all three at the same time give you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:31:44 2010 No.6549077 >>6549069 In my case a prune with a neckbeard.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:31:44 2010 No.6549078 Money and consumerism are evil, subsistence farming and pastoralism are much better.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:35:44 2010 No.6549097 >>6549069 lung cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:43:44 2010 No.6549126 >>6549069 crazy

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:45:44 2010 No.6549138 >>6549126 We have a winner!

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:46:44 2010 No.6549140 File: 76 KB, 291x415, wine192.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is "Bob" /jp/ related? Or related to this thread since he is the greatest salesman in the universe as well as the leader in the war against normals/pink boys?

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:50:44 2010 No.6549164 >>6549140 Bob is a great guy, he helped me make my pee pee bigger

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:51:44 2010 No.6549169 poorfags getting buttmad over smart shoppers, what else is new

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 09:56:44 2010 No.6549184 >>6549169 did you even watch the video in the OP? I think it's kind of corny, but it still makes some legitimate points worth thinking about.

>>	Anonymous Thu Dec 2 10:09:44 2010 No.6549226 File: 164 KB, 480x640, aki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Room thread >Figurine thread >Vidya everywhere >Implying NEETS aren't more materialistic than the average black friday shopper.

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