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6501327 No.6501327 [Reply] [Original]

Explain this to me, /jp/.

Red: I am the 18th visitor.

Visitors = Normal folks, Erika, Kanon, and Shannon.
People = Normal folks, Erika, Yasu.

However, "It is forbidden for a servant to be the culprit." Therefore, the personalities Shannon and Kanon cannot kill, because they are obviously servants. And no other Yasus can exist because then the "visitor" count would be 19+. And plus, "Yasu" is still a servant, anyway.

How is Yasu the culprit again?

>> No.6501348

There is a fucking thread already, condense your autism.

>> No.6501346

Dine and Knox rules were never said to apply.

Besides, culprit could mean anything.

Could mean that the culprit is Nanjo manipulating Gohda into cooking a meal that makes Yasu go crazy.

>> No.6501352

>>6501327
Red means nothing.

The culprit is whoever Ryu says it is in the twelfth game.

>> No.6501355

ok picture this
yasu has a giant throbbing erect spiked cock when she thinks about batter
you know what it looks like? it's a fucking meter long
when it's a metter long it has a consciousness on its own, and don't tell me it can't kill because it is ready and willing and prepared to penetrate

>> No.6501364
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6501364

I better not have just had absolutely all of Umineko spoiled for me.
I just started episode 2.

>> No.6501373

>>6501348
I love how as soon as you can't answer a question, you resort to lulzy ad homenim.

>> No.6501390

>>6501364
Yeah, pretty much.

Better leave /jp/ and forget this thread existed.

>> No.6501391

>>6501364

Nobody said Shannon and Kanon are nothing but Yasu's, a child Natsuhi threw off a cliff but who was actually the son of Kinzo and his daughter, personalities and this Yasu is the culprit.

You are still spoiler safe

>> No.6501414

God damnit. I hate you guys.
Brain damage here I come.

>> No.6501447

You could get around the Yasu = servant thing with Beatrice being another 'personality' doing all the killing.

However, then what about the person count?

Furthermore, (and this isn't even subtle, it's outright stated in Ep6) Featherine brings up the point that Battler seems unlikely to forgive someone that went and murdered his entire family.

So yes, why in the world does ANYONE think Yasu is the culprit again?

Still seems to me that the most likely answer is Yasu set up a playacting of the murders (which explains how the faked deaths in Ep5-6 tie into Ep1-4, also explains stuff like Nanjo and Kumasawa's deaths in Ep4) but the 'real' culprit killed everyone and made it all go wrong.

>> No.6501461

Protip to end all protip.
A VISITOR DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ALIVE.
Learn to reading comprehension and loophole.

>> No.6501463

>>6501447
My money's on a scorned FATFAT for the real culprit.

>> No.6501468

>>6501364

When I started umineko I didn't visit /jp/ for an entire week just so I wouldn't get spoiled.

Serves you right for giving in to impulses.

>> No.6501498
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6501498

>>6501461
I..don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

>> No.6501511

>>6501498
Because you are stupid.

>> No.6501521

>>6501447

This is what everyone has been getting at since forever.

Also it's probably not even Kyrie.

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6501531

>>6501511

Or because you're pretending like you know everything because you enjoy trolling, since obviously don't know enough to take the thirty seconds it takes to explain what you mean.

>> No.6501529

>>6501521

So then why is everyone going all "Yasu is the culprit, Yasu killed everyone!"?

I just don't understand their reasoning. I mean, even the Japanese are doing it.

>> No.6501534

>>6501529

The Japanese fans gave up about seven episodes ago, which is why Ryukishi hates them so much.

>> No.6501557
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6501557

>>6501529
Because people can't just say "Yasu covered the real culprit so Battler can't see a cruel truth"

>> No.6501562

>>6501531
I already explained.
Erika is the 18th visitor but there are 17 people including her.
These 2 facts aren't contradictory at all.
Kinzo is counted as a visitor on the island, the definition of visitor doesn't say he has to be still alive after all.

If you want another example you could say that the vikings were the first visitors of America and Christopher Colombus the second well after the vikings died.

>> No.6501589

>>6501562
>Kinzo is counted as a visitor on the island
That's silly sir, and you know it :/

>> No.6501596

>>6501557

So wait, are you implying that everyone has been saying "Yasu killed everyone" to propagate the "Beatrice killed everyone" lie to obscure the real truth from people that haven't reached it yet?

...Because that's kind of awesome.

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6501601

>>6501557
Superior.

>> No.6501603

>>6501596
You just put all the contradiction in the current Umineko plot into one sentence.
I am happy, Anon.

>> No.6501626

>>6501562

I'm willing to consider this possibility, but it still feels off to me. I can't see them taking all that time making Kinzo's state of existence wholly irrelevant for it to come back as a loophole in 6. Plus, I can't see where it'd be implied that this was the case. I don't say that "I have visitors" if there's a dead body in my back yard.

Thanks for actually explaining though, it's not that hard, see?

>> No.6501638

>they still believe in the red truth

>> No.6501642

>>6501557
>>6501601

Dear lord. I now wish that the Umineko anime was based on this instead. Shit's terrifying.

>> No.6501639

Yasu did plan to kill everyone. And she did kill everyone in the fictional scenarios of episodes 1-4. It's just that if someone solves the epitaph before she gets to the killings, she won't kill anyone.

>> No.6501650

>>6501626
Your post made me chuckle.

>> No.6501667

>>6501557
I love you, sir.

>> No.6501705

...I'd just like to say...it's not actually even a count of visitors at all...

我こそは来訪者ッ 六軒島の１８人目の人間ッ！！
I am the visitor, the 18th human on Rokken Island!!

It's just Erika calling herself A visitor, not that she's one of eighteen visitors. It's the difference between "18ninme no ningen" and "17nin da," not "18ninme no raihousha"

...so, yeah, this visitor count argument is kinda dumb.

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>>6501642
Indeed

>> No.6503632

>>6501910
god, the artist for the ep. 2 manga is so amazing. Bern trollfaces with that art would be glorious.

>> No.6503908

>>6501601
for hilarity's purpose, i'd like to remind you that they'll be a married couple in a few episodes.

battler, you don't want to be caught cheating...

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