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Am I right to assume that the 5 strongest touhous are
Yuuka
Yukari
Reimu
Flandre
Ex-Rumia
(Not exactly in that order)

>> No.6483854

>Ex-Rumia
Just how fucking retarded is this guy, seriously

>> No.6483853

All my rage.

>> No.6483855

You mean in terms of danmaku or actual power?

We can only have a relatively "solid" list in terms of danmaku.

>> No.6483867

>EX-Rumia

hurrr hurrr typical retarded powerlevel thread.

>> No.6483872

Contrary to popular belief, Remilia is stronger than Flandre. Nobody in DSM would be able to contain her if that wasn't the case.

>> No.6483871

You forgot the 2 devas and EX alice.

>> No.6483874
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>>6483853
>>6483854
Hey...
It's a power-level thread on a sunday, made by a tripfag.

>> No.6483879

>>6483872
The point is that no one has to CONTAIN Flandre because she is not unstable to the point of going berserk or anything. She stays in the basement because she wants to.

Canon touhou is not grimdark touhou, folks.

>> No.6483881

5 strongest Touhos are:

Yama
Reimu
Marisa
Eirin
Yukari

Not counting PC-98 and official manga, obviously.

>> No.6483882
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6483882

>No Shikieiki

Derp.

>> No.6483885
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6483885

Another try than:
The five strongest are:
Cirno
Moonbitch A
Moonbitch B
Yukari
Yuuka

>> No.6483886

>>6483879
Patchouly surely says otherwise in EoSD.

>> No.6483887

Danmaku elegance: Alice/Hina/Kanako
Danmaku hardness: Remilia/Shou/Iku

>> No.6483891

>>6483886
Mind point out the lines exactly?

>> No.6483893

>>6483881
Why Yuuka and Remilia not there, anon?

>> No.6483896

QUALITY T­HREAD

>> No.6483901

Flandre
Yukari
Kaguya
Shikieiki
Reimu
Marisa

>> No.6483902

Yuuka
Shiki
Yukari
Shinki/EX-Alice
Tenshi

>> No.6483905

>>6483893
Because it's a top 5, not a top 7.
Also, I was expecting someone to complain about Marisa.

>> No.6483913

>>6483891
"I don't have time for this~

The little sister, and now you -
What kind of day is this?!"

>> No.6483914

Shikieiki wasn't fighting seriously, but just for the sake of making people think about their past deeds.

For Yuuka's case and the "Let's see who is the strongest in Gensokyo" line or whatever, that was just her trying to fire up Yuuka since she said Yuuka should act more youkai-like.

Showing off your power and wasting time in a battle with the sole reason of selfish ego is not like her AT ALL. Shikieiki is the most powerful touhou.

>> No.6483922

>>6483914
Not to mention that was just a danmaku battle.

>> No.6483925
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>>6483885
I'm going to ignore you since it's obvious you are just trying to piss us off.
I believe we can only consider danmaku since those are the only type of fights in Gensokyo.
Yukari - mother of gensokyo boarder
Yuuka - youkai moe with original master spark
Shikieiki - even god damn Yukari is humble against her.
I feel as if Shiki and Mima deserves the final space, but we'll go with MC plot armor and put Marisa and Reimu.
Flan has the power to destroy anything, yet were still beated by humans.
She's just chaotic she can be tamed. Hell her sister locked her up.

>> No.6483931

>>6483925
>Hell her sister locked her up.
Flandre can break free any moment, she just does not want to.
>>6483913
And how that line implies it? It can mean countless things/situations.

>> No.6483933

>>6483886
Patchouli alone can, with proper preparation, beat both sisters. Containing Flandre is an easy task for her.

Of course, Flandre is more "powerful" than Remilia.
>She really respects her older sister Remilia, but her raw destructive power far exceeds that of her sister's.

Gengetsu(timeout), Reimu, Marisa, Remilia(Lunatic), 5th slot

>> No.6483938

>>6483905
why Marisa is there and not Remilia?

>>6483881
>>6483901
>>6483902

Yama 3
Reimu 3
Eirin
Yukari 4
Flandre 2
Kaguya
Marisa 2
Yuuka 2
Shinki
EX-Alice
Tenshi
Ex Rumia


...So why do people give such power to the Yama?

>> No.6483940

>>6483914
Shikieiki wanted to kill Yuka
She'd have to fight at 100% to finish her duty if a smaller % of her power isn't enough.
And since Yuka is still alive we can guess she lost at 100%

>> No.6483945

>>6483940
Please read my post again.

>>6483938
>...So why do people give such power to the Yama?
Go read your canon, son.

>> No.6483947

>>6483940
>Shikieiki wanted to kill Yuka
Yuyuko wanted to eat Mystia.
Mystia'd have to fight at 100% to survive if a smaller % of her power isn't enough.
And since Mystia is still alive we can guess she won at 100%

>> No.6483948

>>6483938
you can basically call her god of gensokyo.
and not god as in kanako or suwako
no we mean the god that can judge gods to heaven or hell.
her world is law. only those who prove themselves worthy against her or have an incredibly small hit box can be spared by her mercy.

>> No.6483952

>>6483947
Yuyuko's route isn't canon.
Youkai regenerate if harmed by physical means.

Anything else anon?

>> No.6483955

>>6483947
>Taking anything Yuyuko says are serious

Sorry.

>> No.6483951

Powerlevel thread?

Guess everyone is gonna start downplaying Eirin again, which should be almost equal or just slight above Yukari depending on the situation.

>> No.6483959

>>6483951
Eirin has no hax whatsoever.
>>6483945
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Phantasmagoria_of_Flower_View:_Yuuka%27s_Scenario#Yuuka_vs._Shiki_.28Ep
isode_Final.29
>That's right, you've lived a little too long.
>If you continue living on like this, nothing good will come of it.

>> No.6483961

>>6483952
>Her route is not canon

Derp. All routes in IN are canon on their own way.

IN does not have a concrete canon because it's meant to have multiple paths.

>> No.6483963

>>6483933
>her raw destructive power far exceeds that of her sister's
Marisa is more powerful than Reimu, but Reimu still is stronger than Marisa. The point is that being more powerful won't always let you win in a fight.

>> No.6483966

>>6483951
right I believe her magic was enough to effect all of Gensokyo and fought against the moon bitches just like Yukari did.
I think the only reason we demean her is due to her intelligence and not her power. She was able to make one of the strongest spells in Gensokyo, but that doesn't make her the strongest.

>> No.6483968

>>6483959
Like I said...... That's just the Yama motivating Yuuka into battle. Also, Danmaku.

>> No.6483969

>>6483952
All routes are canon in a combined mash-up route.
>>6483955
Actually, Eiki never talked about killing Yuuka.

>> No.6483972

>>6483961
>Derp. All routes in IN are canon on their own way.
Source?

The only canon route is Remilia's, since Eirin was surprised when she saw Sakuya.
The rest aren't even mentioned.

>> No.6483979

>>6483968
>>6483969
Shiki clearly says Yuka has lived too long and her life has to end.

>> No.6483977
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Dragon is the strongest Touhou. She acts lazy so she can live an easy going life.

>> No.6483985

>>6483959
Really? The teacher of the moonbitches has no hax what so ever?

She far more powerful than Kaguya too even if you try to down play the above part.

Plus, imagine the amount of magical power it would take to do what she was trying to do in IN, only Yukari could possibly do that and only because of lol borders.

>> No.6483982

>>6483959
>That's right, you've lived a little too long.
>If you continue living on like this, nothing good will come of it.
>like this
=Eiki will now fight Yuuka in an attempt to get her back on the right path known as "terrorizing humans more"

>> No.6483991

>>6483972
>The only canon route is Remilia's, since Eirin was surprised when she saw Sakuya.

Jesus christ how does that makes it canon?

And about the Yuuka x Shikieiki thing.

Shikieiki says that what Yuuka usually do is a problem (teasing everyone around her) and Yuuka says it's no big deal, then Yuuka says that Shikieiki's reasoning is wrong
>If you were quiet and listened for a little,
you'd know it was all only fooling around.
Do you think when you're not teased,
you're above everyone else?
Let's make it as clear as black and white who of us is the strongest in Gensokyo!
And then Shikieiki replies that SHE is the one who judges.
>It's my job to discern black and white.
However, I am not of Gensokyo.
Nor am I of this world.
Judgement is done from top to bottom, from left to right,
and must always be completely one-sided!
No matter how you fall, the one who shall be judged to be black or white is you!

There is not a single line implying life or death battle.


The only thing mentioning life on that dialogue is that Shikieiki says "Living is a sin" and then "You have lived too much", which means Yuuka has sinned way too much bothering everyone around her without reason for the sake of fun.

>> No.6483993

>everyone now realize that danmaku are just lights and all the girls are just playing laser tag with no real danger involved.

>> No.6483998

>>6483982
>Whether it be humans or youkai,
>or ghost or fairies,
>you've attacked them.
>Without much reason, as well.

She seems pretty active among humans too

>> No.6484000

>>6483998
Humans are great sinners after all.

>> No.6484008

>>6483931
>>6483925
>>6483933
Unfortunate that you do not realize that Flandre can be easily defeated it just requires the knowledge of how her power works.
You simply blind her and break her hands rendering her power useless, the main reason why she is locked up is because she can sometimes use this power sub-consciously without need of using her eyes or hands that and she IS insane so, she may accidentally use her power manually or sub-consciously the fact that she is also a vampire only adds to this, that is why she's locked up.

>> No.6484020

>>6484008
You say like it's easy to do such things.

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>>6483993
some of those lights look almost like daggers.

>> No.6484040

>>6484020
If Meiling can do it anyone can.

(I'll find the sauce for what i'm talking about in a bit. Guh,)

>> No.6484044

>>6484040
Eh.. looking forward to see it actually. Never heard of such a thing.

If it's some doujin or whatever you don't have to post though.

>> No.6484059

Cirno is the strongest.

>> No.6484074

Whoah whoah wait a sec.
Where's suika in this?

>> No.6484075

>>6484074
Drinking sake and relaxing in the hakurei Shrine.

Suika is too drunk to fight seriously.

>> No.6484079

>>6484075
You don't know very much about Suika if you think she's ever too drunk. For anything. Never too drunk!

>> No.6484094

Not in order, but:

Shiki
Suika
Yuugi
Yabbadabbadoo
Yukari

Anyone disagreeing doesn't know shit.

The moonbitches who weren't in the games don't count. Neither do PC-98 characters. Reimu has the most authority because of her position, but not the most raw power.

>> No.6484099

>>6484094
>Shiki
>Yabbadabbadoo
>PC98 Characters don't count

I thought Shiki could be a "Shinki" spelled wrong but now I wonder who Shiki is then.

>> No.6484098

If you didn't list Cirno as #1 then you don't know shit about Touhou powerlevels.

>> No.6484106

Mima taught Marisa everything she didn't steal and kept the majority of her knowledge to herself.

>> No.6484108

>>6484079
>>6484075
She's actually stronger the more intoxicated she is, I believe I read that somewhere.

>> No.6484112

>>6484099
Nah. Shinki must be weak because in the PC-98 era spell card rules wernt invented so the yfought for real.
if reimu, marisa, yuuka or mima beat Shinki then there's a good chance she sucked at being Japaneese satan.

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>>6484075
But being drunk is when she does her best fighting!

pic related (giant hand is oni-chan.

>> No.6484125

>>6484108
>She's actually stronger the more intoxicated she is
Medicine?

>> No.6484128

>>6484118
Eh, I don't think so.
>>6484112
This "There are no spellcards on PC98" argument is pretty lame. There is nothing saying that spell card rules were invented AFTER those incidents, just that they were invented to prevent real deal shit.

Since ZUN himself tries to make a line between PC98 and Windows I think it's pretty safe to say that this spell rules argument is invalid and that we can conclude that they exist on both "eras".

>> No.6484138

Since ZUN himself doesn't give a shit about powerlevels I think it's pretty safe to say that he hates this thread and everyone in it.

>> No.6484141

>>6484112
She fought them at the same time and held back to not harm Makai

>> No.6484143

>>6484141
Have you even played Mystic Square? Shinki destroys Makai. And you only play as one Touhou not four.

>> No.6484149

>>6484128
Yes.
The attacks didn't have names back then, but that doesn't mean that there's much of a difference between Devil's Recitations and Shinki's orignal. (Same with Yuuka btw)

>> No.6484152

>>6484143
The endings say they gang together to beat shinki
and she held back to not harm makai but she messed up using devil's recitation and destroyed pandemonium, that's all

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>>6484141
That's way too much personal speculation. But it's still valid since powerlevel shit it's all about speculations done by people.

However, the holding back part is wrong, since she actually harmed Makai during the fight.

>> No.6484158

>>6484152
There is nothing implying that on the endings.

Actually it's exactly the contrary. They are all chats focused on a single character saying how strong that character is and that character says it was easy as fuck and they wonder if that's the power of a god they must be really awesome. (Especially Mima)

>> No.6484160

>>6484143
>Shinki destroys Makai

Where the fuck were in UFO then?
Some freaky Hallucination?

>> No.6484174

>>6484160
That place Byakuren was sealed? De facto nuke shelter. Rest of Makai was burnt to ashes.

>> No.6485207

>No Okuu
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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>Power tier thread
>71 posts and 7 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

>> No.6485273

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/The_Grimoire_of_Marisa

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