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<Ominous hum.>

>> No.6458326

oooooh purty

>> No.6458331

>>6458313
I don't think you'd describe that as humming.

>> No.6458336

PRESENT DAY, PRESENT TIME AHAHAHAHA

>> No.6458341

>>6458331
More like <ominous jet-engine roar>

>> No.6458342

♪ YOU DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND ♪

>> No.6458343

animated

>> No.6458345

Remember when moot said he'd make a news post and then he didn't?

Oh wait, that's every single time.

>> No.6458361

>>6458345
I'm still waiting for that "big update about 4chan's future" ;_;

>> No.6458369

>>6458313
Turn on sound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62U2BG07G_g

>> No.6458376

><Also Sprach Zarathustra>

>> No.6458399

>>6458361

It was captcha. Enjoy.

>> No.6458405

>>6458399
I thought the captcha was just a random thing thrown in because of increased levels of spam!

>> No.6458411

>>6458405

A deliberate step on the path to account registration.

>> No.6458418

>>6458369
jesus shit my ears

>> No.6458431

What will we think of all this when we look back, decades in the future, after Facebook has bought 4chan?

>> No.6458441

>>6458399
Funnily I remember him saying he's working towards finding a better answer than captcha when it started...

>> No.6458446

>>6458441
He stated a number of times that he doesn't want captcha, but there aren't any other options so

>> No.6458458

>>6458446
What about linking 4chan posting privilege to your Facebook account?

Same way Zuckerberg is going to deal with spam.

>> No.6458465

>>6458458
i have been trolled harder than i thought possible

>> No.6458471

>>6458458
I don't have a Facebook account. Your move.

>> No.6458486

We will never be rid of captcha. Whatever the reason, it is here to stay. And that is why 4chan is, and will remain, so very shitty.

>> No.6458499

>>6458486
Because it's not full of bots and sage bomb scripts?

>> No.6458520

>>6458486
Because shitposters have more patience than good ones? I'm not seeing your logic here.

>> No.6458524

>>6458499

Because the fact that moot has fallen back on such an obtrusive method of filtration reveals he is either too lazy or incompetent to find a better way, which does not bode well for the site either way.

>> No.6458531

>>6458524
There isn't actually a better way of doing it

Hope that helps

>> No.6458552

the reason for captcha was to try to bomb google's project (good luck, moron) as another stunt

moot doesn't give a flying fuck about the quality of the boards here, or else he'd simply easily recruit 200 mods for different shifts on his 40 or so boards
4chan's a minimum-effort youth-interest/interest-in-youth liability-passing scheme and a promotion for moot himself, Time magazine, anti-scientology activism, V for Vendetta, Ron Paul, Rand Paul and whatever the fuck "canv ass" is

>> No.6458555

>>6458531

Sure there is. More advanced variants of the scripts used to filter unwanted images of Hayashida drinking large glasses of water in the long term, more moderators with instructions to make liberal use of permenant and IP range bans as a stopgap.

>> No.6458558

>>6458531

Sup Christopher.

>> No.6458571

>>6458555
>More advanced variants of the scripts used to filter unwanted images of Hayashida drinking large glasses of water in the long term
This isn't doable in a manner that doesn't take a significant chunk of CPU time, and is easily bypassed by choosing another image

>more moderators with instructions to make liberal use of permenant and IP range bans as a stopgap.
This would help, but when you're dealing with an automated attack, you want an automated response.

>> No.6458580

>>6458571

How about an automated response that doesn't make it necessary for legitimate users to bend over and think of England?

>> No.6458585

>>6458580
The best I can think of is only having to enter a captcha once every X posts or Y hours. You aren't going to completely get rid of captchas though.

>> No.6458591

>>6458585

Heck, making captcha necessary only for posts that include images would be nice. Configure it so the verification pane only appears if you select a file for upload.

>> No.6458595

>>6458591
Enjoy you'are text spam.

>> No.6458606

>>captcha

Why would you complain about the one good thing that moot has ever done?

>> No.6458607

>>6458552
moot is just worried about bad moderation making a mess out of 4chan. It's better for 4chan to make a mess out of itself than for the userbase to actively turn on intrusive moderators. What we have now is a sort of passive resentment and a sense of neglect instead of outright hatred and a sense of being watched.

>> No.6458608

>>6458595

It would eliminate one substantial vector: idiots from /b/ running barrelroll.jpeg as an executable and being welcomed into the warm embrace of the botnet.

>> No.6458616

>>6458606

Oh, hey, a terrible opinion from tripcode user, that's a new one.

>> No.6458631

>>6458552
More mods wouldn't do shit to be honest. Think about /jp/'s mod, who wakes up for an hour a day and spends that time deleting anything that gets onto the first three pages before going off and letting the board fill up with shit.

now imagine that times 10. It'd just be a bunch of opinionated fucks deleting fucking EVERYTHING.

X amount of unique sages causes autosage, report keeps the captcha but a certain number auto deletes thread. That's all 4chan needs. Democratic moderation.

>> No.6458632

>>6458608
> Copy paste this text into 4chan.hta and double click to shit bricks
nothing changed

>> No.6458640

>>6458631
So now /b/ can come and troll /jp/ not just by making shitty threads which everybody ignores, but by actually deleting all the on-topic ones as well?

Good ones.

>> No.6458641

>>6458631
> X amount of unique sages causes autosage
except on some boards where people sage their posts not in disapproval of the thread like a bunch of retarded inbred barely literate monkeys, right?

>> No.6458645

>>6458616
>>anon is leegion

Captcha slowed down the post rate of /jp/ when it was first introduced. It's a good thing.

Feel free to check post rate chart on the ghost board for proof.

>> No.6458646

>>6458632

You'd have to post code. I'd like to think not even neonate /b/ users would be that stupid.

>> No.6458654

>>6458646
But it said I would shit a brick!

If I've learned one thing it's never to underestimate the power of stupidity.

>> No.6458657

>>6458607
oh. Okay, how about just making a public feedback system for moderator actions? That'd kill two birds with one stone (or bb as the gratuitously destructive case may be.)

>> No.6458659

>>6458645

The decrease in post rate was due to the removal of spam. Nothing else changed. If you want a slower board, go to /bun/ or something. I'd tell you to register with SA, but I wouldn't wish you on a goon.

>> No.6458669

ITT moot and the team discuss spam/penises.

>> No.6458671

>>6458641
Those people are newfags and wapanese.

Also they are secretly doing it to express disapproval.

Besides that, unless they're changing their ip every posts, the few people who do that won't adversely affect the thread.


>>6458646
>I'd like to think not even neonate /b/ users would be that stupid.

This is how the spam started before they figured out how to put it in an image. I am not even joking.

>> No.6458674

>>6458659
oh hush, he might just fork over some money to SA and see his account banned in under a day

>> No.6458684

>"A network cable is unplugged."

>> No.6458686

>>6458671
It still doesn't take away the fact that it becomes relatively easy to exploit.

>> No.6458697

>>6458659
>>removal of spam thanks to Captcha

Once again, I can't see why you're complaining about a good thing.

You're probably the kind of person who types in both words in the Captcha right.

>> No.6458702

>>6458686
Yes, I know we'd go back to the days of sage bombing threads but it's not like people don't spam and shitpost in threads anyway in an attempt to get them to the image/post limit.

>> No.6458732

>>6458697

It's an improved situation gained through obtrusive means. Meaning it is not exactly an ideal solution. You can eliminate poverty by setting the poor on fire, too, but most of us would agree it would be better to have them become productive, contributing members of society instead.

>> No.6458733

If you want to defeat the spam, you have to get people to save and rename anti-spam programs. Their stupidity will save them.

Or do it the simple way and make it add boards.4chan.org to their list of prohibited pages/fuck with their hosts file and thus prevent them from posting spam or otherwise.

>> No.6458748

>>6458733

From now on, no posting on 4chan unless you have cisco clean access and a state of the art antiviral suite installed.

Or your thing. Actually, let's just go with your thing.

>> No.6458760

If 4chan resaved slightly altered versions of uploaded images, would it destroy the text inside?

>horibibe alha
holy bible allah in engrish?

>> No.6458762

>>6458671
What if that system is implemented and I don't feel like bumping a thread, even if I like it?
Stop that, sage is not meant to be negative in any way. I wonder who was the retard who first started with that shit.

>> No.6458768

>>6458762

There's really no way to implement a democratic method of pruning threads that doesn't leave smaller boards open to prolific abuse at the hands of /b/.

Solution: delete /b/.

>> No.6458786

>>6458768
And watch as all the shit contained there spills all over the other boards.
/b/ may suck, but I'd rather have it than delete it.

>> No.6458787

>>6458768
A wave of angry /b/tards rush the board. You try to fight them off but they keep coming. You make a last stand in the Type-moon thread but you are swiftly overwhelmed by reaction images and nukes.
BAD END

>> No.6458802

>>6458786

Undesirables have always migrated from /b/ to the other boards upon realizing it is just that shitty, this would just do it on a larger scale. The upside would be it would never have to happen again.

>> No.6458803

Solution: Make 4chan require a client to post from, that uses a hardware profile from your system. Then you can ban the machine, not the IP.

>> No.6458804

>>6458787
Institute bans, proxy bans, and network bans. Have someone that unblocks IPs when they can be shown to not be used by retards.

>> No.6458811
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6458811

>>6458787

[x] Turn my mind to steel and save Japan/General.

>> No.6458815

>>6458811
You are already dead, son.

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6458836

>>6458815

Even the strongest of all reaction images has failed me. I'm sorry, /jp/.

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6458843

Is this thread about ways to save 4chan? Because moot's new project might. It appears to be some kind of Facebook 4chan, which will surely draw away quite a few of the normals and /b/ dipshits. Hopefully....

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6458845

>>6458815
We can do it, in the moments before death...one single botnet...for every board

>> No.6458850

>>6458843
It will probably just draw away /adv/ and /r9k/. The HURR DURR SEKRET CLUB fags will still be here.

>> No.6458883

>>6458850
Also if it becomes a success moot will probably kill off 4chan. He doesn't even like anime and manga anymore, and facebook related things are more his taste these days

>> No.6458896

>>6458883
His other project will NEVER reach half of 4chan's fame and "success". Moot can't get rid of 4chan because it's his life's proud and glory. Moot is what he is today because of 4chan and he should know that he won't get any higher than that.

>> No.6458902

>>6458883
Well, do bear in mind that all moot will ever be known for, for his entire life, will be 4chan. Unless he's really, really deluded, he won't be so quick to drop it.

>> No.6458908

>>6458896
his other project combines facebook and /b/ (two of normal dipshits' favorite things). How could it not be a success?

>> No.6458914

>>6458908
None of the reasons that 4chan has become both successful and (inf)famous have anything to do with moot. He slipped and pushed the rock which caused the avalanche.

>> No.6458918 [DELETED] 

"Trace, on."

Focus.
Perceive the ban-hammer of W.T. Snacks to perfection.
Open your left hand and grip the visualized hilt.
Its astronomical weight.
Anonymous can not handle that great sword.
But....definate replication of the monstrous strength of the little girl is possible with this child pornography.

>> No.6458930

>>6458914
not to mention this site is just an english 2ch.

>> No.6458937

>>6458914

He saw the popularity of the BBS in the west, and the potential popularity of the imageboard were the concept to be brought here and modified to suit a western userbase.

He did good. But it's really all downhill from here.

>> No.6458950

>>6458896
> Moot is what he is today
Broke?

>> No.6458965

>>6458883
If 4chan died a few new 4chans would rise in it's place. There's already several alternatives now

>> No.6458972

>>6458803

I like this idea, as it would be a good way of tying down shitposters/btards. You could also just make it a (very intrusive) cookie, and you simply can't post unless you allow the cookie script to run.

Only issue is that, it would take away more "freedom" aka hurt peoples' ability to shitpost/raid, aka nothing of value would be lost to anyone besides /b/tards. The other issue is that it would put a noose around what many people like about 4chan.. its casual and often off-topic and unpredictable conversation. If that was heavily moderated or controlled in some way, then you could very well see an exodus to some of the 4chan clones.

>> No.6458973
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6458973

>>6458937
I wouldn't give him that much credit. He started off as a weeaboo aping Japan, and ended up, through a long chain of happy accidents, the webmaster of the premier anonymous BBS on English-language internet.

If this project reaches half of the popularity and recognition of 4chan I will eat my fucking hat.

>> No.6458975

4chan wouldn't die in the "it's gone" kind of way, moot would probably sell it to someone else. Of course, the new owners (whoever paid the most) would probably make decisions that fuck this place up worse than bad posters ever could

>> No.6458983

>>6458950

Actually with the ads he says that he breaks even. I'd also assume that he's gotten some investment offers before too and so it's not like he couldn't get rich if he wanted. 4chan as we know it would die though if it was owned by Google or had a bunch of web 2.0 shit interlinking it, and so moot has held off on that option.

>> No.6458984

>>6458975
Microsoft buys it, thinking that they can make it their personal viral marketing machine. Calling it now.

>> No.6458985

>>6458965
Tohno-chan and bunbunmaru are nice. Neither are fast enough for my tastes though

>> No.6458987

>>6458983
Or Google, Google works too.

>> No.6458993

>>6458908
> Spaghetti is good, and so is icecream, so icecream spaghetti must be good.

You don't throw a bunch of money to some guy and have him make a successful website. Sure, you can market it and it'll be a 3 week fad, but that's not really how 4chan works (nor most other "popular" websites, although there are exceptions).

I don't want to discredit moot, since I don't know the guy (nor do I care to), but basically he got "lucky" with 4chan, if you can call it that. You can't really blame him for trying the canvas thing either. 4chan isn't going to last forever, and if someone is handing you a sack of money to basically do what you're already doing, why would you refuse that?

>> No.6458994

>>6458985
iichan superiority, a place to take it easy

>> No.6458998

>>6458985
Tohno is my fallback option, and I'll dust off my SA account if need be. SA is filled with "nuke japan again anime is for pedos" types though so I really hate posting there

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6459002

>>6458998
>SA

>> No.6459003

>>6458998
post in YCS, we love animes

>> No.6459013

>>6459003
I used to until Lowtax decided to be wacky and make RFA, probably because YCS is one of the only subforums that don't suck his dick. It seemed like it was full of former SASS members actually, last time I was there

>> No.6459016

>>6458993
>4chan isn't going to last forever
Why not? Only unsupported sites on the internet die out. Otherwise there's still things from the early 90s about and being updated.

It'll at least least for 30 years or so.

>> No.6459023

>>6458998
>posting in forums

How can you even do that after moving to image boards?

>> No.6459024

>>6459013
Is that the forums cancer shit? Makes it fucking annoying to read threads when a bunch of posters have it.

>> No.6459028

>>6459013
it's hella anime and touhou 'tars all up ins + cool posters like lyle + a sweet ass stylesheet

come join the fun 2day

>> No.6459032

>>6459003

There is, of course, a dedicated forum just for anime. It's called FYAD. (For your anime-tion discussions.)

>> No.6459033

>>6459002
Hey, SA is good for some things. I got into the APB beta because I knew a guy from there.....well maybe in retrospect that WASN'T a good thing

>> No.6459039

>>6459024
Yeah it is. Luckily you can get rid of it by giving lowtax money! How generous!

>> No.6459044
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6459044

>pay-to-use forum with ban-happy mods
Can I interest you in a 4chan Gold account? If not I also have a fine selection of bridges to sell you.

>> No.6459045

>>6459024

There's a script to disable it, but if you should mention it you get the same people who think having adblock installed is literally robbing Lowtax and peeing on his doormat get all ornery.

>> No.6459059

>>6459032
fyad owns, and is a cool place to make friends and chill out

>> No.6459061

>>6459044
you know, a paid 4chan would be pretty neat actually. it would get rid of the /b/ slowly eating the site at least

>> No.6459066

>>6459045
Adblock is a must because sometimes the ads give people viruses. Nevermind the fact that getting ads after buying an account is fucked up in the first place

>> No.6459072

>>6459061
>maximum trolling

>> No.6459073

>>6459061
Hahah not at all.

It would kill the site and only people with money to spare on a fucking image board would post. That doesn't mean they are good posters.

>> No.6459074

This has sort of degenerated into a SA circlejerk, so I'm going to delete the thread in 10 minutes or so. Just giving you a heads up.

>> No.6459077

SA's only redeeming quality anymore is it is mostly free of /b/ shit because that ban people for it on site.

>> No.6459080

>>6459074
how is talking about how bad SA is a "circlejerk"? I'd rather you didn't delete the thread so people can see how bad it is if they didn't know already

>> No.6459099

>>6459080

Well, all right, but try to shy away from the "give moot 10bux, solve all problems forever" line of questioning.

>> No.6459094

>>6459077
They have their own brand of annoying shit however

>> No.6459104

>>6459061

How about a priority-version of 4chan, where you pay per board... every board you pay for = you can access a version of that board that only other people who also paid can use. You could also get options to view posts made in the priority-version overlayed (or even mixed right alongside) the posts from the default board. You could also hide the normal board too if you like. This would allow for all three things /jp/ wants - exclusivity, only people who really belong here have on-topic discussion, and a way that deals with shitposters and spammers since you can just ban their accounts. Trolls automatically own themselves, because no matter what they say because they are automatic idiots for paying real money to do what they could still do on the free boards (plus again trolls can just get removed from the priority version).

>> No.6459113

>>6459104

Aaand shutting it down. Evening, folks.

>> No.6459115

>>6459013
Before that it was axemaniac constantly trying and failing to be funny, until he eventually left forever

>> No.6459115,1 [INTERNAL] 

Bump to the priority-version of /jp/.

>> No.6459115,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>6459104
That only works based on the assumption that shitposters won't pay and good posters will pay, neither of which is true.

>> No.6459115,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>6459104

Let's just forget that most people on /jp/ are broke and their moms won't give them any money for that shit.

>> No.6459115,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>6459104
You'll be banned for loli, I bet.

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