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6400852 No.6400852 [Reply] [Original]

Man, most of the girls in this sure look hot. Except for Hibiki Sanae for some reason(Who is also one of the heroines...)

And the sex scenes + voices are better than rance.

For some reason though most of the girls look hotter with clothes on than with clothes off.

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>>6400852
You just don't like glasses.
She's much cuter without glasses.

>> No.6400879

Any chance you could tell me what this game's about?

>> No.6400880

Wouldn't say the sex scenes are better than Rance's. It kinda looks dated. It does have voices, something they'll never give their flagship franchise.

Also, hating on Sanae = you suck.

>> No.6400883

>>6400852
That's just you starting to feel the effects of having seen enough naked women.

Pretty soon you'll start to crave the variety and it just won't be as good unless the girl has something accenting a feature.

>> No.6400887

>>6400880
I prefer it that way. I don't want my imagined voice of Rance and co. to be sullied by sub-par VA's. Yes, I am aware of the OVA and consider it non-canon.

>> No.6400897

>>6400852
If you're into big breasts, there may be a good reason for this.

You naturally think of a girl's breasts as appearing larger when the clothes come off, right? So when you look at a girl's breasts with her clothes on, your mind registers the size as being bigger than it actually is.

Many artists simply draw clothes as a skin. The fact that it's a skin makes the clothes look incredibly tight, which actually enhances the effect of the perception described in the preceding paragraph; if the clothes are that tight, then it's likely they will appear much bigger when taken off going by real-world logic.

But, if the art is drawn the way I'm describing, when the clothing comes off they're exactly as big as they're drawn with the clothing on(unless the artist accounts for that, which in my experience is rare), but without the subconscious effect of "they're actually larger than this."

Of course, there are many other ways of explaining it as well(tight clothing is sexy in and of itself), but I've noticed this effect in myself sometimes. Could just be me.

>> No.6400907

I found the dialog in the sex scenes much better than rance.

>> No.6400913

>>6400897
Aya is drawn with far bigger breasts naked than with clothes on.

>> No.6400952

>>6400907
Yeah, BBA's ero scenes are actually erotic.

>> No.6400972

BBA is so fucking boring.

Unlike Rance where if they attack you they risk lowering their army count; here they can keep attacking for days and you absolutely need a unit in every region just to stay in control. Also, automatic healing for every turn? BS.

Sanae sucks as a heroine, every other character was ok. Shit is so cryptic though, how the hell am I supposed to know to recruit her twice, interrogate someone else, get doujinshi, and then recruit her again?

>> No.6400988

>>6400907
While overall that may be true, Rance scenes do have their share of fairly erotic fuck scenes. That said, I'm more into the hilarity of Rance having his way with women more than the porn. I find it much better in some aspects.

>> No.6401007

>>6400988
I skipped every ero scene in Sengoku Rance because they weren't hot at all and I didn't find them very funny either.

They were just useless trophies for me to collect.

>> No.6401023

>>6401007
>skip ero scenes
>lose all that character information/background/development
You're pretty much the epitome of retarded.

>> No.6401032

>>6401023
inb4 the retard claims there isn't any character info/background/development in those scenes

If he claims that, he never really played the game and is just a troll trying to make the Rancefags and BBAfags fight each other.

>> No.6401051

>>6401032
I don't know why this same BBA troll always comes in with such an inflated superiority complex. The game must feel so inadequate, he always has to compare it with Rance for some reason.

>> No.6401071

>>6401023
I only played it for the gameplay anyway, I couldn't care less if I don't understand what some obscure shitty cookie cutter heroine from Tanegashima thinks about Rance.

>> No.6401079

>>6401051
And here comes that other troll, we've got the whole gang present.

Everyone abandon ship.

>> No.6401092

Alicesoft is awesome! Both Sengoku Rance and Daibanchou are glorious!

Where are some good places to buy cosplay costumes for the characters?

>> No.6401093

>>6400972
>Unlike Rance where if they attack you they risk lowering their army count; here they can keep attacking for days
You know that Status button? It tells you how many units the enemy has left, genius.

>> No.6401098

>>6401071
Wow, and you played BBA for the plot you loved so much? Get out.

>> No.6401104

>>6401079
Telling it like it is isn't a troll. The guy literally has to compare with Rance each and every time, like Rance stole his girlfriend and made him mad.

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>>6401079
It's the same person.

>> No.6401120

I need to schlick. Quick, pick a scene! Say why!

>> No.6401138

>>6401098
You seem to have terrible reading comprehension. I never said I liked BBA more than Rance, all I've said is that the ero scenes were better in BBA. In fact Segoku Rance as a whole was more enjoyable.

I played BBA because I had nothing else to play as I played Remember11 and Osadai during summer.

BBA's gameplay wasn't very fun after a while, I did two routes and didn't bother anymore. The system was a little clumsy.

>> No.6401155

>>6401104
Nitroplus fans compare their games, Liar Soft fans compare their games, Type-Moon fans compare their games, Key fans compare their games...

Why can't Alice Soft fans?

>> No.6401162

>>6401138
Did I ever say anything like that?

I'm saying is that you missed out on character development/info because you skipped the scenes. And that you actually favored porn instead of getting down on the character development. Hence saying that you played for the "plot".

Figures you didn't even get that shit.

>> No.6401163

>>6401155
and they're all trolls. what a coincidence!

if you want to troll successfully debate without hostility, otherwise you're only going to be successful against idiots

>> No.6401166

>>6401155
Comparisons will occur, that is true, but if you just do it day in, day out, with every thread they make, that's pretty retarded, which is why Type-Moon fans also hate it when they do that.

>> No.6401170

Alice-soft thread?
I'm doing a Rance marathon these days, finished Rance 1 and doing Rance 2.
Holy fuck Lia is fucking evil, Rance is the pope next to her.
Poor Lavender.

>> No.6401177

>>6401170
Yeah, Lia is a really bad person. Cute, sexy at times, but real bad inside.

>> No.6401185

>>6401177
She's got a good rack, you gotta admit.

>> No.6401228

>>6401170
Man, I hated 1. Did you actually finish it without a guide? Some of the shit was really bad, like when you needed to break down the wall to get to the room all on the left in the top floor of the mansion. 2 is freaking amazing for its time and considering it's the sequel to the piece of crap 1 is.

Like all characters, Lia from 1 isn't very much like the way she is in later games. She's still evil and everything but not anything like she was in 1 (where she isn't even named yet). From 4 on her personality was changed a lot again, too.

Anyway enjoy the marathon, did one myself last/ this year, only Kichikuoh missing (plus some extra playthroughs through Sengoku).

>> No.6401730

Playing through BBA now and i really hate how they dont tell you a LOT of things...

I didnt even know that ighting sanzo in the disctrict phase moves you onto sennou's route. THERES NOTHING THAT SAYS IT IS SENNOU'S ROUTE.

>> No.6403202

I was really disappointed with BBA after HF's users hyped it up as better than Rance. I think they're just moralfags: I've seen a lot of moralfags hate on Rance only because they're so insecure the rape and pillaging is like a searing hot dick up their asses.

BBA's plot was cliche, and Zanma is as shounen shit a protagonist as they come. The girls were hot, and the cast was a lot more fleshed out than Sengoku's, and the voices were awesome, but the whole game came off as painfully generic.

>> No.6404088

>>6403202
So moralfags like BBA more? Well, I wonder why...

>> No.6405394

anyone got the working torrent for this?

>> No.6405399

>>6403202
Maybe you just like rance because it's so EDGY AND KWUL to rape people.

>> No.6405471

BBA was a disappointment to me after Rance. The whole game system was worse (especially the combat), the H scenes were voiced, sure, but the art wasn't as good and I preferred the whole "same CG with slight variations" thing that most modern games do, and the story/characters weren't quite as endearing as Rance's. Ended up stopping a ways into the National Chapter, though I may pick it back up if I get bored enough.

>> No.6405474

Anyone know where I can just download the CG sets?

>> No.6405478

>>6405471

This. Rance was way better for me, not to mention Rance himself is a way better protagonist. Rouga only thinks about world domination whereas Rance only thinks about sex.

>> No.6405479

>>6405399
Actually (not him), I think I like Rance more because there were more H-scenes. I think it's 'cause I fell in love with the ctrl button.... I think I may have actually have like Daibanchou's overall system more but there should have been more scenes (it doesn't even need to be H, anything)

>> No.6405488

Sengoku Rance is the better game for sure.
But BBA had a better and more fleshed out cast.

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>>6400852
>sanae
>not hot

>> No.6405497

So if I like Rance as a series, should I avoid Daibancho? I haven't started it properly yet, thought it looked interesting enough though.

>> No.6405506

>>6405497

Not really. Rance has the better sex material, but they're both awesome games.

>> No.6405744

I'm currently replaying Sengoku Rance, this time I'll actually read everything instead of controlling through most of it.

Just caught Honda and Hattori on the same turn. No matter how often I play through this, taking an enemy's best commanders away is still just as much fun.

>> No.6405831

BBA had terrible combat, and the super limited time limit was very disappointing. Rance had a time limit, but you didn't really notice too much, unless you were super super slow, but you still had time to do what you wanted to do. BBA you have to go straight for the goal with little to no detours or you run out of time.

Also didn't like the protagonist.

>> No.6405882

BBA was much better than rance.

rouga also not a rapist. if i wanted to be a rapist, i could play one of the billion other japanese rapist protagonist games.

>> No.6405896

Anyone else noticed that the janitor nuked the other BBA thread?

Rouga is a better potagonist than Rance. Rance is just generic, wants to fuck a lot of women.

Sex scenes also tend to be written better.

Game system wise, both have trade offs. In Rance its simpler because you just need to amass a large cast of powerful characters...and thats it. You can cherry pick them for whichever battle you want. In BBA you need to deploy them carefully. Unfortunately loyalty management without using BP is too annoying. Thats the biggest downside i can think of.

Also in combat, capturing in BBA is far more complicated as you cant capture if you reduce them to zero hp, and since there is no "defend" option in BBA you HAVE to attack and kill off characters.

The time limit in BBA is also really annoying. I wonder if its possible to mod that out or cheat it somehow?

Biggest downside i had in rance was that there were far too many beginning of turn events(you should be able to see more than 1 in one turn), recruiting Houjou soun takes FOREVER because all the plot events take priority, and the AI cheats VERY badly.

AI units can show up with like 5k footmen, something that is completely impossible for the player unless they cheat or drag the game out a lot. Also since AI units scale to yours, it makes your footmen too powerful in comparison to everything else.

But still...5k footmen showing up when you have armies in the 1k range is just silly.

>> No.6405907

I got so hard from that Kyudo humiliation scene and I didn't even think I was into that stuff, even the bowel excavation.

>> No.6405909

>>6405882
Or if you didn't want to be a rapist, you could play one of the billion other Japanese non-rape protagonist games.

>> No.6405919

>Rance is just generic

>> No.6405922

Should also be noted that most of Rance sex scenes are written incredibly corny and the music doesnt help.

BBA heroine sex scenes at least have variations.

>> No.6405942

>>6405882
>Rance
>generic
>implying Rouga is not a generic shonen protagonist of the highest order

>> No.6405947

>>6405922
*rolling rock theme*
My hyper weapon is pointing to the heavens! I hope you are ready for some of my imperial juice all over your face. GAH HAHAHA.


How can you not love that?

>> No.6405955

I just looked over at vndb and apparently i shares characters with Sengoku Rance?

Which?

>> No.6405964

BBA had a faulty save state system, interface was clunky, required too much micromanagement, the art is a bit old in comparison to newer Alicesoft games, battles sucked. It's punishing nature makes it less fun and I had a crappier time finishing it. If you compare it to the story building and universe of the Rance series games, it is a miniscule game in scope. I had less love for the characters as a result.

Seriously, even EGS doesn't rank it as high as Sengoku Rance. Most of the guys I've seen hyping it up are moralfags with an uppity sense of opinion that are probably the same guys that hate popular things for being popular and want to be niche or some shit.

>> No.6405971

Can I get some MU links for this?

>> No.6405987

>>6405971
http://justfuckinggoogleit.com/

>> No.6406021

>>6405964
I liked the battles a lot more than rance, which was basically abusing the crap out of footmen on higher difficulties.

Sengoku rance itself has a pretty basic story. Its pretty obvious what happens from the getgo...Oda Nobunaga has been possesed by a demon in so many japanese games its a cliche by now. Rance has a lot of references to other rance games, but its all pretty useless unless you have played the previous ones.

>> No.6406038

>>6405987
too much work

>> No.6406055

Sorry but after playing all them games with either a good guy being all heroic, or, a bad guy being all cynical and faceless, Rance is a pretty good protagonist in that:
he is tsundere
he is heroic as he is villainous
he is brutal at the same time that he is kind
he is thoughtless at the same time that he is cunning
he is lazy at the same time that he is hardworking
he is strong yet is psychologically weak against women
he is very arrogant and yet has compassion that he just chooses to hide from those around him
he has one of the weirdest set of morals/attributes/hobbies I've encountered

The man is a walking set of contradictions and that makes him a far better protagonist for me than most leads. I mean, you could hate him for being a rapist, and I could not say you are in the wrong because that's a taste issue, but calling him generic is just retarded.

>> No.6406067

>>6406021
I'm pretty sure conquest of Japan is a pretty basic story, too. And so are stories about high school banchous duking it out for territory.

>> No.6406181

>>6406021
While that's true, the real fun of Sengoku Rance doesn't lie in the difficulty levels spear spam so that is a useless point to consider. Already said too is that high school stories in Japan fighting for control has also been done, and so has Japan unification. BBA isn't exactly unique. And the reason why I do find Sengoku Rance a better game is because it does come from a series. The multitude of characters grow up as the series continues, and that is likely why it ranks very high in the opinion of many Japanese players. BBA doesn't have the luxury of this so they cram everything in one game.

Even if you don't know anything about the characters, they are interesting enough to make you love them to the point of wanting to see them in the next games, something that Alicesoft has done very well for this series.

>> No.6406182

>>6405942
Let's just say both Rance and Rouga are generic shit, how about that?

That way, both of you will be happy.

>> No.6406190

>>6406181
Oh, and that it's very fun a game and got me hooked for several weeks straight playing it. BBA never had me that addicted ever. People don't play games to get punished. People play games to enjoy them.

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>>6406182
>generic

>> No.6406196

>>6406194
Apparently, generic means anything you don't like in /jp/.

>> No.6406231

>>6406194
Hey, is that movie any good? I've been thinking of watching it the last few days.

>> No.6406244

>>6406231
So-so. Go watch it if you've got the time.

>> No.6406276

>>6406194
Don't blame me, you moron. I wasn't the one who brought up the term.

I was just trying to reach a compromise.

>> No.6406288

>>6406196
Generic is something you use when you want to make some epic trolling. For example, if I want to troll X, I say "X is generic shit" (it's better to add shit at the end for a stronger effect). Then people who like X are trolled hard and are angry over the internet.

>> No.6406306

They're both great games, you whiners. I prefer the one that has fewer broken characters and less randomness. I can see how others could prefer the other one. I am boss.

>> No.6407533

Hmm any tips for dealing with loyalty issues? I dont have time to talk to the characters i really want.

>> No.6407602

>>6407533
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Bang_Age:Hints_and_Tips#Understanding_The_Loyalty_Mechanic
If you have a lot of money, then conquer Hawaii and as soon as a unit hits red loyalty, there'll be an event there to pay to restore everybody to full.
Otherwise, it's easier to stay out of trouble than to pull yourself out of it. The campsite buildings are cheap and stop everybody but the lowest trust units from losing loyalty, so put them down in regions where you station lots of units.

>> No.6407693

I checked wiki but still have a question.
I requited Sion and my question is when/how I can sleep with her? Btw Nightmare Eyes conquered.

>> No.6408613

>>6407693
You have to talk to her three times, and then there's a start of turn event where she dreams about her father and asks Rouga about love or something. Then she's automatically added to the harem.

>> No.6408654

>>6406288
i lol'd so hard

>> No.6409109

>>6406021
>Sengoku rance itself has a pretty basic story. Its pretty obvious what happens from the getgo...Oda Nobunaga has been possesed by a demon in so many japanese games its a cliche by now. Rance has a lot of references to other rance games, but its all pretty useless unless you have played the previous ones.

This. But, if you know absolutely shit nothing about Oda Nobunaga, it's a surprise that he dies at the end, given how affable and cool he is in game (unique among depictions). Kouhime's route is refreshing because it's not an everyone lives scenario like Kenshin's, nor a fuck-the-DA route like Ran's.

But really, the only characters in Rance who got any real development were Kouhime, Ran and Isoroku in their routes. Pretty much everyone else had a few personality points and didn't go beyond a few interactions and jokes. BBA did this a lot better, but it's hentai, so its not like people are playing it for the plot.

>> No.6409225

>>6409109
Rance series is like that. It's a series after all. Most of these characters were new to the series and quite a few of them did develop well as we learn of their pasts. The recurring characters from previous series developed pretty good as well. Enjoyable were Maria and Kanami and even Leila, Magic too. Some of the new characters that got some good characterization were also enough to grab them a spot in people's favorites list.

But I guess that would be the difference then. BBA had to do a lot of things that SR didn't have to focus on because BBA doesn't have the history behind it. But I don't know, I still have much more connections to the characters from SR for some reason.

Probably because I read all, not just the 7 affection level ones, of their events in Japanese and had prior knowledge of the series as a whole.

>> No.6410281

>>6407602
But i need curry wolve buildings to make money.

>> No.6410322

Oh one question about character stars. Do you need to do them in order? E.G. Get 1st star then 2nd star, so on so forth?

>> No.6410385

Overall I liked BBA better than Rance, especially the gameplay, which is much more precise and strategic in my opinion. What do people who prefer Rance's gameplay like about it?

But both are magnificent Alicesoft games. I don't understand the need people have to constantly pick only one to be loyal to. Rouga is cooler, Rance is funnier. Both games have their own strengths and weaknesses. There doesn't have to be only one winner.

>> No.6410418

>>6410322
nope

in fact I'm pretty sure it's impossible to get some of them in that order

>> No.6410488

I thought the character events were much, much better in BBA.
Some of them were really funny or touching and most of them developed the characters very well.
In Sengoku Rance the events of the women were just about Rance trying to fuck them.

>> No.6410503

>>6410385
Less punishing, fairly customizable, you can basically shape everything in SR to however you desire it. I'd say it's far more strategic than even BBA is even without that time limit fuckery BBA had. SR was also a lot more fluid that BBA, especially because of its initial route system, making only the path you get there the deciding factor on how easy the endgame will be for you or otherwise.

In the end, BBA is clunkier, older, and less refined than SR in my opinion. SR also has the more unorthodox protagonist, another plus in my opinion.

BBA is an older game than SR, so it's no surprise really that Alicesoft fixed a lot of the problems in that game and made a much better received game in SR. But of course, you are right, they are both good games. It comes down to a taste issue.

>> No.6410570

>>6410418
Then some of the info on the wiki is wrong then. I've stationed Narase Yuuki with cleo aripa in totorri for ages now but the beginning of turn event doesnt fire at all.

And i cant figure out how to get the mizuki adn the ocean event in hawaii, even after stationing her there.

>> No.6410613

>>6410570
It's not a beginning of the turn event.
It's an event called Cleo and Yuki, you have to choose it after stationing them both together in Totori

>> No.6410688

>>6405896
I think that was just the game's way of saying "hey faggot we made monks for a reason, you know". I mean I definitely wouldn't have used any otherwise.

>> No.6410784

>>6410503
Use a memory editor to reset the turn limit. Problem solved.

>> No.6410841

>>6410613
I dont see the event in tottori.

>> No.6412960

>>6410841
>>6410841
still not seeing it

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