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6335389 No.6335389 [Reply] [Original]

So /jp/ showed me this game awhile back (http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/6197445)) and I've been addicted to it ever since. It took me a long time to get this working since I had no idea how to make an undub.

Tested on the Dolphin emulator and it works perfect with the openGL plugin and EFB Copy to Texture enabled. No compatibility issues found so far

Torrent:
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5906996

>> No.6335397
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HOORRAAY I CANT CHOOSE: THE GAME

>> No.6335399

It works on dolphin?

Are you bullshitting me? No lag?

>> No.6335404

>>6335399
If your computer isn't an old piece of shit, no.

>> No.6335407

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1FYEaHZbHk

Mandatory whenever there's a RF thread.

>> No.6335408
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>>6335399
Not bullshitting, it's what I've been using to play this game before I made the undub.

>> No.6335425

OP I got no idea you can make RFF works with emulator. I'll have to give it a try later.

What have you learned so far regarding the undub process?

>> No.6335442

Are there any other japan games like RF:F and Maple Story where I can just relax (Single player) and just play a little whenever I want?

I don't want anything where I have to log like a set amount of time every single day. I want a game where I can spend a weekend playing and then put it off until maybe some other weekend.

>> No.6335453

>0 seeders
>0 leechers

Thanks OP

>> No.6335462

What's the system requirements of Dolphin?
I only have a crappy onboard videocard.

>> No.6335466

There are no download links on Dolphin's official site. What's up with that.

>> No.6335475
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>>6335425
After like 20 hours of trail and error I got it working. Pretty much just deleted everything that wasn't overwritten by the Japanese voices, and it started working right after.

Also the movies won't be subbed. I don't feel like learning how to sub just yet, my mind will go insane.

Oh and thanks to /jp/ radio for playing awesome music while I was banging my head on my desktop figuring how things worked.

>> No.6335490

>>6335466
http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/download.html

>>6335462
My video card is pretty shitty and gets beat by onboard video cards that are out right now but still runs this game at no lag. This game is capped at 30 fps too, don't know if that makes the game easier to emulate or not.

>> No.6335509

>>6335490
Yeah, I found it on their forum. Thanks.

>> No.6335516

Err, I can't see any seeds on the torrent.

>> No.6335521

>>6335516
It says there are no seeds or leechers at the piratebay site, but I'm connected to 11 out of 17 people and uploading at about 500kbps right now.

>> No.6335549

I just realize there are 2 and 3 (Nov. 9) for DS and 2 has 1 and 2 has a undub version. Tonight was a productive night.

>> No.6335570

Lacks Yue.

>> No.6335588

>>6335389

I have this for Wii, what's the difference in the undub? no voices?

>> No.6335606

>>6335588
Replaced English voices with Japanese voices.

>> No.6335609

I love the voices in this game. Is there something wrong with me?

>> No.6335627

>>6335609
It's bearable... But I'd take an undub over english any day.

>> No.6335647

>>6335408
I laughed at first. Now I just feel sad and empty inside.

Oh, and I love it how he looks pissed. That's not a reaction I see too often from that kind of situation.

>> No.6335649

FUCKING RUNIES

CANT GROW SHIT

>> No.6335669

>>6335404
Then why are you posting this on a board of NEETs?

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>> No.6335815

how does this correlate with Atelier series?

>> No.6335852

>>6335815
I don't think RFF is connected to the atelier series.

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Bumping to counter /b/ raid

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>> No.6336295

>>6335549
Care to link to the undub?

>> No.6336770
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>> No.6336821

can someone upload this to megaupload or mediafire when the torrent finishes?

>> No.6336838

>>6336821

It's 4.4 gigs. That's a lot of split files.

>> No.6336857

>>6336838
I downloaded the copy I'm using now that way. I try not to torrent gaes because I'm paranoid about getting caught. I doubt anyone cares about this one but you can't be too sure. I guess if I leech it now no one will ever know.

>> No.6336877

OP can you make an UNruney version ?

>> No.6336893

>>6335693
come at me bro

>> No.6336925

So, is it worth getting a Wii for the /jp/-related games? It pains me to miss out on shit like Rune Factory Frontier.

>> No.6336936

hooray!

>> No.6336946

Is this a remake of the DS game?

>> No.6336950

>>6336821
I second this anon, hoping someone would reupload this to MU.

>> No.6336954

>>6336925
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn, Tales of Symphonia Dawn of The New World, Muramasa, Rune Factory Frontier, Arc Rise Fantasia.

I downloaded the ISOs and play them with Dolphin though

>> No.6336972

>>6336925
just use the emulator dude

tales of symphonia 2 was very fucking great because kugimiya rie

>> No.6337002
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>Raguna
>ラグナ
>Ragna

>> No.6337355
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Seed you faggots or I'll nuke your countries.

>> No.6337357

any recommended build of dolphin?
emulator builds are usually hit and miss, like pscx2 which only the nightly builds have acceptable framerates

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>>6337355

>> No.6337384

Thanks. I've been putting this off forever waiting for an undub.

>> No.6337400

What's an undub? Taking out english dubs, putting in original japanese voices, then subbing the game's no-text parts?

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6337419

just get it off of /rs/ you clowns

>> No.6337548

>>6337400
something like that

>> No.6337575

ive never played a rune factory game. are they good?

>> No.6337579

>>6337575
Harvest Moon rip-offs.

>> No.6337588

>>6337400
awsome. downloading right now thanks OP

>> No.6337590

>>6337575
Harvest Moon style farming with RPG elements

Obviously the real draw is the girls though

>> No.6337594

>>6337575
no.
You need to do some mindless watering, killing monster, harvesting everyday and need to maintain a steady relationships with other people at the same time.

You might as well get a job. They are basically the same, minus the 2d graphics.

>> No.6337597

>>6336954
>>6336972
Is Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World heavily reliant on Tales of Symphonia 1? It's been several years (at least 5) since I played it, and I remember very little. Should I take this time to replay it on the emu? And do any of those other games have undubs?

>> No.6337606

>>6337594
Rune Factory doesn't even have 2D graphics, so they really are the same.

>> No.6337761

>>6337597
i never played 1 but throughly enjoyed 2
and didnt give a shit about 1's characters

>> No.6337793

>>6337597
Arc Rise Fantasia has an undub and Muramasa has the original voices

>> No.6337854

>>6336295
Its on isohunt. Just search for Rune Factory undub.

>> No.6337861 [DELETED] 

Most of us don't give a shit about japan here, we only care about their media and some of us like their language, but that's it.

>> No.6337869 [DELETED] 

>>6337861
And your post is revelant to this thread how ?

>> No.6337871 [DELETED] 

Read the original poSt. This thread was doomed from the start.

>> No.6337882

>>6337861
>>6337871
What the hell are you even talking about

>> No.6337895

>>6337882
Manual spam. Most likely the guy who pretended to be Cornelia. Just ignore him, he'll get bored.

>> No.6337898

>>6337882
I think it's a bot or something.

>> No.6337906 [DELETED] 

Niggas talking about arizona ';tea'; best be trollin'.

>> No.6337971

I'm thinking this guy >>6337861 wanted to post in that now-404'ed thread asking about Japan, while this guy >>6337871 I'm not too sure about.

>> No.6337971,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>6337906
Cornelia chan is moe.

>> No.6338280

I take I can't use my saves with this new ISO. I'd love to play the undub, but I already have advanced moderately with the regular ISO, don't feel like playing from the beginning again.

>>6337761
Never played Dawn of the New World, but it looks soooo low-budget. I'd take Graces over it, looks better and has a great VA cast.

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Seeders:
0
Leechers:
8

>> No.6338292

Hook, line, and sinker! Never played Dawn of the New World, but it looks so low-budget.

>> No.6338299
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Don't mind me, just choosing the best girl.

>> No.6338312

Are diamonds really a girl's best friend?

>> No.6338397

Finally, an undub! Will get my full enjoyment of this until RF3 comes out in a few weeks.

>> No.6338417

about wii emulation

how do you emulate games with motion control? or are they unplayable?

>> No.6338450

>>6337597
It's a direct sequel with new main characters, but most of the playable characters from the first are, well, playable. Well, lots of the first games events are explained though, so it's easy to understand the game's plot.

>>6338417
You can use GC or Classic Controller, but you can emulate the movement of nunchuk by using mouse or by assigning a button (e.g tilt/swing/shake)

>> No.6338637

>>6338280
You can still use your old saves if its from a USA NTSC version.

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Sorry /jp/. She's already taken.

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>> No.6338691

Question, is this game playable with just a GC controller/gamepad?

>> No.6338717

>>6338637
I'm gonna give it a try, thanks.

>> No.6338735

>>6338691
Yeah. There's like no motion control needed for this game. Even just a keyboard would be fine.

>> No.6338737

I have a 7850 AMD processor. 2.8 ghz. I played Muramasa on the wii emulator before and it was perfect. is this going to run? it looks like its much more demanding.

>> No.6338760

>>6338737
It'll run. Probably not perfectly.

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>> No.6339243

Someone upload this to Blackcats

>> No.6339854
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Bump.

>> No.6339854,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>6339854
I loled.

>> No.6340399

No DDL still?

>> No.6340423

>>6340399
Don't think there will be.

>> No.6340431
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6340431

Best, purest waifu.

Also, they already have this translated for the Wii.
Why would you bother with this shit?

>> No.6340435

>>6340431
Do you even know what undub means?

>> No.6340438

>>6340431
Because undub

>> No.6340456

>>6340435
Yes, and it's stupid.

I mean really, you guys undub shit so you can listen to the Japanese voices? That's quite silly. If you don't even understand them, how do you know that they are better quality? For all we know, the japs could think that they were horribly voiced, but since we don't know the language, we perceive horrible voice acting as good.

It is just silly, if you know English, play it in English. The dub isn't that bad, anyway.

>> No.6340484

>>6340456
>>/v/ being asspained again

Never fails huh. And I'm sure the OP worked on undubbing it for a reason.

>> No.6340492

>>6340456
>you guys undub shit so you can listen to the Japanese voices?

Problem? I would if the VA casts were good.

>> No.6340495

>>6340456
I agree, the dub is fine, and there's not that much speech anyway. You'd have to be a pretty big weeaboo to care if it's undubbed.

>> No.6340498

>>6340456

Can you not tell the difference between good and bad Japanese voice acting?

And there are at least some people here that can understand spoken Japanese, but not kanji.

>> No.6340524

>>6340456
>>6340495

I wondered how many posts there would be before your kind comes in and try to derail the thread.

>> No.6340566

I already played this and stopped a while ago. Yes, the dub was pretty good, but the undub refreshes things. Isn't it normal to look for mods and shit to make things fun again?

>> No.6340577

Japanese VA are usually superior compared to their american counterparts, which are mostly amateurs. But I agree in that this game's dub isn't THAT bad (at least compared to the other RF games), and that there isn't a lot of voice acting on this game anyways.

>> No.6340590

There are some big names in this game though.

Also, Hiromi Konno. Lina = Candy = Sae, all delicious roles.

>still mad that Candy is not weddable

>> No.6340596

>Tanaka Rie
>Sawashiro Miyuki

Suck it dub

>> No.6340625

It's too buggy for me in Dolphin. Just hangs after loading state. every, like, 20 minutes.

>> No.6340668

>>6340625
Save / Load states don't work for me too in dolphin. I just save and load normally and its fine. No issues other than that.

>> No.6340702

Ne, Ne can you also post this torrent on Nyaa?

>> No.6340729

It's a mystery for me why people are even using nyaa. deadfrog can do everything nyaa does, and without annoying nag screens when clicking on link in TT.

>> No.6340740

Would a PS3 controller work alright in Dolphin?
And yes, I know I need the drivers for the ps3 controller..

>> No.6340751

>>6340702
>>6340729
What's wrong with TPB?

>> No.6340752

>>6340751
I harbor a fear for the gubernment stalking it.

>> No.6340758

>>6340751
Often down.

>> No.6340845

Uploaded to Blackcats. Might take a while before it shows up.

Someone participate after seeding this to upload it on Nya~ or whereever. If not, I guess I'll do it too..

>> No.6340866

Is there some way to make a patch for those of us with the iso already?
Or at maybe a dummy cut version? The game's actually only like 2.3 GB.

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Bump.

>> No.6341440

shit lags.

>> No.6341440,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>6341413
Moefications!

>> No.6341946

I'm stuck at 29.1%. ;_;

>> No.6342645

I get stuck after the intro scenes and name entry

Can't move my character at all, but some map menu works
I absolutely suck at tech

>> No.6343066

If someone has the game can they convert it to Wii backup File system (wbfs)

>> No.6343122

i've been playing the dub version and the game keeps randomly crashing...

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>>6341413
Best Rune Factory waifu.

>> No.6343816

so, uh..
will undub read dub version saves?

>> No.6343867

>undub

>RFF

For weeaboos only.

>> No.6343965
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>>6343816
If it's an NTSC-U save it should read it.

>>6342645
>>6343122
Use the newer builds of dolphin.

>> No.6344048
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I've been doing nothing but managing runeys, watering flowers, and sleeping while waiting for these stupid flowers to grow. Its been so long since I planted them (took a bit of a break after beating the last boss and octopus) that I can't even remember if I planted the non-blue rose flowers that I needed for the bouquet or not.

I hate the runey system more than ever right now.

Also, fuck the undub.

>> No.6345508

>>6344048
What's wrong with the undub?

>> No.6345534

>>6345508
I don't know about him, but Julie Ann Taylor has a sexy voice for a 50-something.

>> No.6345560

Help me, /jp/.

Rosetta, Selphy, or loli Eunice?
...Anette is nice too.

Goddammit so many choices.

>> No.6345580

>>6335389
Oh shit bro, thanks! I started playing this the other day, but was pretty annoyed by some of the English voices.

>> No.6345584

>>6343066
Just get WBFS Manager and do it yourself.

>> No.6345590

I have a shitty intel graphics card that doesn't work with dolphin. Fuck you.

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I just want to say "Thank you" to you OP. I've been playing Rune Factory perfectly, something I would of never thought possible before.

>> No.6346119

>>6343965
What version would be optimal? Currently using 6314 yet movement is still impossible

>> No.6346157

>>6345590
A decent graphics card cost just $50-ish. A Radeon HD4650 (inb4 IN Elite) or a nvidia 9500GT/9600GT is good enough for Dolphin.

>>6346119
I believe you should configure your controller settings first.

>> No.6346218

>>6346119
where can I get newer revisions? I've tried 4830 and 5568 and they both run rune factory ok, but I'm hoping a newer build will get me playable speeds on sengoku basara 3.

>> No.6346266

>>6346218
http://www.emucr.com/
Sengoku Basara is playable on my Athlon II X2 245/HD3870 but with occasional slowdown. Well it's bearable thouh.

>> No.6346292

Just a question, is the RFF english dub any good at all like say Persona 4? Or should I just go with the undub?

>> No.6346298

>>6346292
It's good as far as dubs go. They even went through the effort of dubbing the song.

>> No.6346322

>>6346298
Trouble I have is finding a torrent for the dub. Apparently the 3 torrents on bitgamer won't even connect properly.

>> No.6346326
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>>6346157
I've fixed the issue, apparently i just suck at configuring stuff

Just an aside, is this graphical glitch fixable through any easy options?

>> No.6346346

>>6346326
Try and run it through full screen.

>>6346218
http://www.dolphin-emulator.com/

>> No.6346346,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>6345590
Is it an x4500? ;_;

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>>6346326
Here's mine, using DX9 plugin, disable fog, enable EFB to Texture.

>> No.6346456

>>6346380
I can't see the HP/RP bars in DX9. The map doesn't work with it either. Everything is okay in opengl though.

>> No.6346639

>>6346322
>he uses bitgamer

wwwwwwwwwwww

>> No.6346677

>bitgamer

I have 2 invites if anyone needs one

>> No.6346704

>>6346677
Is bitgamer better than blackcats?

>> No.6346728

>>6346639
What should I use for this then?

>> No.6346735

>>6346728
dunno bro
usenet maybe

>> No.6346736

>>6346704
Pretty much the same, though I know ratiomaster works with bitgamer.

>> No.6346738

>>6345508

You'd have to be a complete weeaboo to hate RFF's dub.

>> No.6346739

>>6346728
Finding a regular RFF iso should be cake. I had to get the Japanese RFF and that was not fun...

>> No.6346742

>>6345560

I say Rosetta, but Selphy is in the running for my second choice along with Melody.

Anette is a bro, but too loli.

Eunice is boring piece of shit tier.

>> No.6346744

>>6346738
>Weeaboo game intended for weeaboos.
Good enough for me, now go back to /v/

>> No.6346749

>>6346738
It's not that I hate the dubbing, but I like Sawashiro Miyuki too much.

>> No.6346835

>>6346739
Really? I just can't find one even with a single seed.

>> No.6347020

>>6346266
I think your computer is better than mine. I might have to upgrade soon but I'm broke.

>> No.6347888

So what are the differences between this and the first game?
Are all the previous girls still in the game?
Any notable gameplay changes?

>> No.6348062

>>6335475
PAL version of RFF has movies subbed, if I remember correctly.

>> No.6348111

>>6336946
Sequel

>> No.6348152

Game runs fine until I go to the location to the west of my house, then emulator crawls to 5fps and dies short afterwards. Does anyone else experience this? What version of emulator do people have working fine?

>> No.6348366

>>6348152
I have this same exact problem. I'm using the latest SVN build (not sure what revision number it is, not at my PC at the moment). I changed changing around every setting I could think of, but none of them fixed the problem.

The worst part is that it actually wasn't happening originally, it just started doing it on the fourth day.

>> No.6348427

Anette>*

>> No.6348468

thin eunice so worth it
/a/ here , Help me choose please, it's eunice or cinnamon

>> No.6348729

I guess I can't run this game.
Tried playing Tales of Symphonia on Dolphin and it's slow as shit, and that's a gamecube game. ;_;

I guess I really need a videocard.

>> No.6348924

>>6348152
>>6348366
Same here, although pausing, hitting shift + f1 (while in the game) and unpausing usually fix it for some reason, at least for me.

>> No.6348934

>>6348468
>cinnamon
dropped

>> No.6349015

>>6348729
Dolphin is CPU heavy, getting a new GPU won't affect it much

>> No.6349084

>>6340495

People have asked for an undub of Infinite Space. You know, the game where the only voiced scenes are the attack animations everyone auto-skips after the first five battles because they are a waste of time.

Let me bottomline this: People have clamored for an undub of a game with voices you never hear.

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>> No.6349361

>>6349084
Who gives a shit? It's about preference.

>> No.6349408 [DELETED] 

Why do people whine when something gets undubbed? Can't they just ignore it and listen to their beloved english VA's?

>> No.6350170

>>6349084
I played the undub of Infinite Space. Of course I didn't knew how voice "heavy" was the game.

>> No.6350184

>>6349084
Why dub it in the first place? Nobody that plays these games for real gives a shit about having English voices.

>> No.6350225

>>6344048
You can get a cheat to lock runeys at specific levels you know.

>> No.6350522

>>6350225
Excuse me good sir, where may i acquire said cheat?

>> No.6350577

Christ, Dolphin makes it ridiculously easy to cheat at this. All you need to do is press a button and it downloads a couple hundred cheats for this game.

Doesn't include freeze runeys though.


Before someone asks, it's:
Right click on game in the main window -> Properties -> Gecko Codes -> Download Codes

Haven't tested them, though.

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I trust all our new Dolphin users have played Muramasa already right?

>>6349361
/v/ bros have this thing going on where they can't like Japanese things too much, or their friends on Facebook make fun of them.

>> No.6350707

>>6349015
So Core2Duo E4500 2.2Ghz isn't enough? I hope not. ;_;
I was hoping it's because I'm using the crappy onboard S3 videocard.

>> No.6350729

>>6349084
I still haven't seen a Shadow Hearts undub yet... Though I'd be kind of sad to see shloop shloop splat taken out...

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>>6350597
is that why they consistently spam it like an 8 year old kid?

>> No.6350756

>>6348468
You can slim Eunice down? I had no idea... I haven't gotten very far, and have completely avoided her because she is fat.

>> No.6350769

>>6350597
No. Do you got link to undub? Or the working voiced one if it's good enough.

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>>6350769
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=wgey60gx
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=h3ss8vj5

Password: tehparadox.com

From /rs/!

>> No.6350797

>>6350756
She slims down for YOU!

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>>6350786
>ZUN !bar

>> No.6350809

>>6350786
Thank you.

>> No.6350824 [DELETED] 

>>6350597

I started playing it when it came out, but I couldn't stand the english voices.

It's not that the dubbed version was horrible, but I have a problem with dubs in general.
I like watching movies in english too, even though it's not my main language.

>> No.6350844

Well Muramara is probably coming to the PS3 and 3DS so I'll play it again, it's a game I want to pay the devs for. If they fucking localized Kumatanchi I'd pay for that too.

>> No.6350845

OP here, the undub crashes for me at Lava ruins. Also the rock in public square doesn't sing for me anymore.

>> No.6350854

>>6350845
Just tested on an actual Wii, the rock doesn't sing for me either. I haven't unlocked Lava ruins though, so can't say about that.

>> No.6350865

>>6350854
Yeah, I just unlocked Lava Ruins like 30 minutes ago. Oh well. I'll see if I can do something about it.

>> No.6351278

>>6350865
>I'll see if I can do something about it.

My motivation for this is gone now. I'm done with this mini-project. For you guys emulating; One thing you can do is load up your save data (or save state) in a dubbed NTSC-U version if you want access to Lava ruins.

If you guys want to have a go at editing the files inside the iso use wiiscrubber 1.4 and partition builder 1.1 or 1.2.

>> No.6351324

>>6351278
You the anon that said that, or was that someone else? Well, I don't think it would be THAT hard for someone (not suggesting you do it after you've already made it clear you have no desire to, just whoever else feels like it if some other kind anon wants to step up to the task) to incrementally switch the voice files off until you've isolated the one that causes the problem. Like, switch 1/4 of them back to English, test it, switch 1/4 more, test again, until it doesn't crash, then go back and do the same process with the section that you've found it to be in, until you've narrowed it down to the one file that's causing it.

Assuming all the voice clips are in separate files, anyway.

>> No.6351333

It could also be an issue of some voice files that didn't exist in the Japanese version for whatever reason. Seems like that would be extremely easy to solve, just pasting the files in and overwriting nothing.

>> No.6351437

There are around 20+ seeds and 30+ leechers at the moment, so if this issue is made known quickly maybe some other emulation forum could fix this issue up

>> No.6351831

>>6336954

>Tales of Symphonia Dawn of The New World

What a fucking awful let down of a game

>> No.6351931

The game asks me to use a nunchuck or whatever.

>> No.6352037

>>6351931
Configure the wiimote extensions

>> No.6352947

>>6352037
How? I've tried fiddling with the wiimote configure menus but nothing works.

>> No.6352960

>>6352947
There should be a drop down box or a checkbox depending for nunchuck on the Dolphin revision that you have.

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>>6352947

>> No.6352969

>>6352960
Fuck I'm dumb.
Thanks.

>> No.6353737

Fucking sickles, how do they work?
Seriously, what's the point of it?

>> No.6353741

>>6353737
Sickled grass becomes monster feed, I think. Sickles also have high range when charged.

>> No.6353752

>>6353737
charged sickles can reap up to 3x9 squares in one go in RF3, I don't know if previous games were the same

>> No.6353810

>>6353752
How can you charge?

>> No.6354709

So where can I find some Silver? I need some so I can upgrade my tools.

>> No.6354715

>>6354709
Dig deeper. Dig greedier.

>> No.6354729

What are these recipes I keep recieving?

>> No.6354753

is there a way to harvest crops without picking them up individually?

sickle chops them up without giving anything

>> No.6354758

>>6335408
Hey someone used the shitty image I made forever ago.
Are there any Candy marriage patches?

>> No.6354770

>>6354753
Animal slave labor.
There's a button you can hold down to lock Raguna's orientation.

>> No.6354776

>>6354709
>>6354729
>>6354753
how about you look up some guide instead of asking /jp/ to guide you through it like we're RF assistance? It's annoying.

>> No.6354847

>>6354776
you are annoying

why dont you talk to yourself instead of posting on here

>> No.6355046

>>6354776
This is a RF thread, you know.

>> No.6355060

As soon as I saw OP's screenshot, I bought the game online. Should be in tomorrow. Looks awesome for a Harvest Moon game, a lot of moe characters, I'll be having lots of fun this Autumn...

>> No.6355085

wtf I killed the cock boss relatively easily but when i went to fight him again he is kicking my ass

his HP went up by at least 1000% and he has new attacks

>> No.6355231

>>6355085
they switch to hard mode after you beat then the first time

>> No.6355265

>>6355085
lol you can fight a cock in this game? awesome!

>> No.6356103

Game crashes in the ruins (first dungeon) when I reach one of the lower levels.

>> No.6356120

>>6356103
Can anyone confirm this? Haven't been in the Green Ruins for a while.

>> No.6356348

>>6356120
some people could reach its boss, problem's on your side i think

also goddamn companion AI, so dumb

>> No.6356561

>>6356103
>>6356120

Just beat the chicken boss. No crash.

>> No.6356961
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6356961

sweet ass a new 3d rune factory for a system i own. Instant pre-order, Can't wait for February.

>> No.6357024

The Rune Factory games are so shitty. Why do people play them? They are super week as galge. You're better off playing one of the numerous other actual galge out there.

>> No.6358002

>>6357024
I like the characters I guess.

>> No.6358355

>>6357024
For my part, I played the shit out of the Harvest Moon series when I was younger, so the RF series gets huge nostalgia points. While I recognize that this does not make the game good in the eyes of others, it is why I enjoy it.

>> No.6358558

>>6356561
Still crashing in the Green ruins.
3 meters forward after I leave the stairs at B4F and Dolpin crashes.
Anyone know what could cause this?

>> No.6358567

>>6358558
Are you playing the undub version?

>> No.6358568

>>6358355
I liked Harvest Moon, but I can't get into Rune Factory. It isn't even like with Touhou, where it's a game from your childhood, only with cute girls. Harvest Moon already had cute girls to begin with! Just play Harvest Moon again.

>> No.6358576

>>6358567
Yes.

>> No.6358615

>>6358576
Since there are two ways of reaching B4F, I tried the other one, still crashing when I walk too far in.

>> No.6358655

>>6358568
I would, but even the nostalgia can't fix the boredom of playing through it for the hundredth time. RF at least has some additions I find interesting.

>> No.6358704

>>6358615
Well, still no luck. I'll see if I can use my save on a dub, go through this and go back to undub once the boss is beaten.

>> No.6358749

>>6358704
You will probably have the same problem when entering Lava Ruins.

>> No.6358767

>>6358749
On the undub? Or on both?
Also, I'm downloading a dub release right now, do the save files work on both?

>> No.6358772

>>6358767
Get the NTSC-U I think

>> No.6358784

>>6358772
And how to find my saves? Since Dolphin plays the game directly from the Iso, where are they stocked? In Dolphin itself?

>> No.6358922

>>6358767
On the undub.

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>>6358784
Try doing this.

>> No.6358973

>Undub
Man you guys. Just play the American version. You're already reading a shitty translation, might as well have the shitty voice acting too, seeings as you don't understand Japanese anyway.

>> No.6359034

>>6358938
Thanks for the tip. I'll see if it works on the NTSC when the DL's finished.

>> No.6359048

>>6358973
Please bring your profound observation elsewhere, don't you feel out of place?

>> No.6359051

>>6359034
Oh, double posting but: Did anyone go through this area with the undub without crashing? If so, then the problem might come from somewhere else. I remember that I could always go to the last floor through two ways: through the monster ridden corridors or directly through the stairs found at the first floor. I've heard that you had to unlock the second way or something, did I fuck up the game somehow, or did the undub come with some cheats?

>> No.6359079

>>6359048
You sound a little buttsore. That comment hit close to home?

>> No.6359104

>>6359079
I'm not your mother

Please go take it out on her

>> No.6359185

>>6359051
I don't know how you can't access that floor. I can go through green ruins just fine with the undub. Just went to the boss a minute ago to check and no crash.

>> No.6359253

>>6359185
Damn it. Did you DL the iso from the first link?

>> No.6359267

>>6359253
Yeah, that piratebay one. Well you're going to have to use a NTSC-U dubbed version anyway since the undub crashes at the lava ruins.

>> No.6359300

>>6359267
Yeah, but I'm the only one with the green ruins bug, so there's something wrong with me already. I'll try to get that problem sorted out before going any further.

>> No.6359667

No kind anon has come along and fixed the lava bug yet? I'm saddened.

>> No.6359728

>mfw /jp/ is getting just playing a mediocre 2 year old Wii game now.

>> No.6359741

>>6359728
HEEEEEEEEE

>> No.6359769

>>6359728
I'm not playing this game, but I always play mainstream games at least a year after they come out. I'm only really on top of doujinsoft stuff, and even then I end up missing a few.

>> No.6359989

>>6359728
/jp/ is still playing touhou games from the 90's and this is what you're going to complain about?

>> No.6360321

>>6359300
I tried to enter the Whale Island for the first time (went up there, heard the voice tell me stuff and went into the first cave entrance thing here) and it crashes as well.
Either Dolphin doesn't work well or my .iso is corrupt, but that was a fresh new game, nothing should've gone wrong.
Still waiting for my NTSC DL to end so I can try it.

>> No.6360381

>>6359989
We have to complain about something, or we'll feel lonely.

LOL DATING GAMES, GO OUTSIDE YOU LOSERS

>> No.6360385

>>6359989
Nothing wrong with playing older games. Just seems weird that all the people in this thread are acting like they're just playing it now/haven't played RF games before.

>> No.6360406

>>6360385

if you notice some of people in here haven't played the wii version or just hyping for a working undubbed version.

>> No.6360453

>>6360381
>go outside

As if this solves anything. I've seen so many people standing outside doing nothing while looking miserable.

you should say something like "eat a delicious meal at the park" or "go for a swim" instead

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>>6359667
>implying Anon owes you anything

>> No.6363145

>>6363043
>implying you're allowed to imply in /jp/

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>>6360321
Okay, the game crashes at the Green Ruins both on undub AND dub.
Something else is wrong, anyone got an idea?

>> No.6363684

>>6363671
Maybe it's a bug with the emulator ?

>> No.6363818

>>6363671
Maybe something's up with the graphical settings

I've had problems in other games with direct3D/openGL plugins, sometimes switching them sorted the problems out

>> No.6363833

.>>6363671
Why don't you try using another revision?

>> No.6364061

>>6363833

Isn't the last one the best?

>>6363818

I'll try that.

>> No.6364064

>>6364061
Latest svn revisions are mostly betas with continuous updates. They aren't the most stable.

>> No.6364111

>>6364064
Geh, that's right. I'll try a stable release.

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>>6363818
>I've had problems in other games with direct3D/openGL plugins, sometimes switching them sorted the problems out

Holy shit, thanks!
I could enter the Whale Island's cave with Direct3 selected!
The police for written dialogue is kindy ugly, but it solved my problem!
Have an Elma!

>> No.6365377

3DPD

>> No.6365391

>>6365377
?

>> No.6365398

>>6365391
Three Dimensional Pig Disgusting

>> No.6365402

>>6365398
Yes, I knwo that, but how does that apply to this game when all character portraits are 2D?

>> No.6365409

>>6365402
But all the characters have 3D models.

>> No.6365413

>>6365409
Unless you want the game to look like Paper Mario, there's no other way of displaying an open world than using 3D.

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>>6365413

>> No.6365430

Oh 2D anon, how I missed you.

>> No.6365445

>>6365430
>implying it's only one person who prefers 2D

>> No.6365446

>>6365422
Unless you have a sprite for absolutely every angle and degree of movement, which equals to a hundred sprites per character, it's still Paper Mario plus shadows on a 3D environment

>> No.6365457

>>6365445
It's easy to recognize 2D anon since he completely ignores all arguments.

>> No.6365459

>>6365446
Doom was 3D done right.

At least you could have 100 enemies on screen at once with no lag whatsoever.

>> No.6365462

>>6365446
There are eight possible directions to do go, N, S, E, W, NW, NE, SW, SE. So, wow, a whole eight different sprites for directions if you want to make it look really good.

>> No.6365503

>>6365462
If we're talking about full movement, it's much more than that
AND
Even for only 8 directions, you'd have to make a variant of every single sprite for every single movement for those 8 directions, effectively multiplying by 8 the number of sprites for every character.
And for a 2D game to look smooth, we need Guilty Gear/Blazblue level of quality and animation for everything.

No developper will ever go that far.

>> No.6365510

>>6365413
Did you not play any games in the 80's?

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>>6365459
Runs fine with 10000 too.

>> No.6365518

>>6365510
You mean the 90s bro. Unless you're talking about isometric (what we used to call '3D' then).

>> No.6365520

>>6365510
I did, but the sprites back then were small, simple, and few in numbers.

>> No.6365526

>>6365503
There are only two.
-Walking
-Not Walking

Much like with speech:
-Talking
-Not Talking

Developers have never complained about having to make sprites, I don't see why they are starting to now.

>> No.6365531

>>6365516
That's why I hated any game that used 3D models after Doom: you could never have lots of enemies on screen anymore and really have a massacre, or (the best part of Doom in my opinion) monster infighting. It's just great to see a horde of monsters all killing each other without firing even a single shot.

>> No.6365536

>>6365531
You know, the monsters in Doom are actually 2D sprites.

>> No.6365542

>>6365536
Yes, I know. That's why we can have so many of them on screen, unlike with 3D models.

>> No.6365545

>>6365531
You could set up monster fights in Quake.

>> No.6365554

>>6365545
But you could never have much of them fighting at the same time. There was still monster infighting but it was almost useless since you were usually up against only a few at once.

>> No.6365579

>>6365526
If we're going for a rather advanced game, it's not just walking and speaking.
Walking, running, dashing, crouching, crawling, jumping, landing, sitting, lying down, eating, swimming, climbing, being hit by different kind of weapons, blocking, using all sorts of different weapons with different attacks for each, different reactions, emotions...

>> No.6365587

>>6365579
You can't even do most of that in games that use 3D models either, and if you can the movement is stiff and unnatural.

>> No.6365595

>>6365579
Nah, what he said was that you only have "on" and "off positions for every action.
When I said Blazblue level of animation, that means at least 5 sprites just entering and exiting the animation, and 8 sprites for a single, simple sword strike.
Now everything you said at this level x8.
Quite a lot huh?

>> No.6365605

>>6365526

You are retarded.

Lets take a simple walking cycle. At bare minimum (shit quality) you are talking 3 frames of animation. Multiply this by 5 ( up, up-side, side, down-side, down). Thats 15 images for a single character's walk cycle. In the old days we were talking about sprites that had very few pixels and were relatively quick to do.

But these days you are talking about much higher res sprites that take longer to do. And if you're doing a 3 frame walk cycle with high res graphics, you are doing it wrong. So increase that to probably 6 - 12 frames instead if you want anything of decent quality that could even approach the frame count of 3D animation.

And you seem awfully quick to forget that old commercial games took about as long to make as they do now. Lets take FF6 for example. There is very little actual sprite work done in the game since most of the sprites are actually edits of eachother to some degree, and the sprite are incredibly low-res. And there aren't even that many actions per character. This game took plenty of time be developed and cost plenty of money. It wasn't even that ambitious at all.

>> No.6365614

>>6365595
If you have an artist who gets nervous at that amount, you might as well sack him immediately. That's peanuts. A good pixel artist could have all of those animations for a single character done in a few days.

>> No.6365615

>>6365605

It would take me approximately 20 - 40 hours to do nice character model, texture it, and get it all ready to be animated. I can then do ANYTHING I WANT with this model and never have to alter the mesh or textures ever again. A single frame of animation for a sprite, to get it "just right" could take as much as 2 - 5 hours each, depending on quality control. Even going off of the initial 15 frame quote, thats 30 - 75 hours for just ONE action sprited for ONE character for ONE viewing angle. Oh, and at ONE resolution which cannot be scaled well for other media, so better hope you've got your final resolution locked in by now.

With the model, I could make thousand different animations and not have to re-model anything. Animating is still lengthy, but not NEARLY as hard as spriting.

So get your head out of your ass and stop assuming 2D is easy. Its NOT. The reason 3D is used extensively these days is because its quicker, more versitile, requires less planning ahead for viewing angles, and is easier to create. 2D, when done properly will always trump 3D. But good luck using that sprite for anything other than what it was explicitly created for. I fucking love 2D games, but I despite people who shun 3D completely.

And I do believe the point the other person was making was for multiple camera angles, so not only do you have the directions, you also have viewing angles (top, high, mid, low).

>> No.6365619

>>6365614

Bull-fucking shit. You have no idea what you are talking about. Have you EVER drawn anything?

>> No.6365626

>>6365619
More than you, bro. You can really see you guys are such amateurs. A 6-frame walking animation cycle can be done in a day if you're good at it.

Don't project your lack of talent onto the rest of the world.

>> No.6365631

>>6365615
>I despite people who shun 3D completely
You are a fucking idiot.

>> No.6365640

Can't you just cheat like hell, and use 3D modeling to make a lot of low-quality pre-rendred sprites, cutting down a lot on the processing load?

Or am I talking out of my ass?

>>6365631
oh no a spelling error whatever will we do

>> No.6365642

>>6365626

Alright, so do this 6 frame walk cycle that is viewable from those 5 states Do it at a professional quality (this means inked, anti-aliased *properly*, colored, shaded, and cleaned up) and do it in less than a day. Not do this for 10 - 20 characters.

Now do it all over again for the 20 other animations each character has

There aren't ANY professional animators that work that quickly for games. Why the fuck do you think these games take so long to come out?

>> No.6365644

>>6365640
Yes, you can do that. They did that at the end of the 16-bit era, for example in Treasure Hunter G, and Super Mario RPG.

>> No.6365651

>>6365642
>Alright, so do this 6 frame walk cycle that is viewable from those 5 states Do it at a professional quality (this means inked, anti-aliased *properly*, colored, shaded, and cleaned up) and do it in less than a day. Not do this for 10 - 20 characters.
Hey faggot, adding up tons of requirements I didn't state is a good way of trying to win an argument huh? I was talking about one character. The fact you need to make more than one is besides the point for what point I was making, which is how long a single character would take.

Also, we never agreed on multiple viewing angles. You with your 3D-addled brain think you need that, but I sure as fuck don't.

>> No.6365653

>>6365640

You can, but it generally looks like ass. And these days it is actually better to just use the original model if you're going to do that, unless its bizzarely high res.

But the thing about turning 3D detailed art into sprites is that it creates a strange effect where the sprite looks detailed, but is moving in a stiff and cartoonish manner. Pretty much making it look like ass.

>> No.6365657

>>6365640
I don't think it's the typo he's pointing out there.

>> No.6365660

>>6365651

Did I not say I was a fan of 2D? I was just saying its retarded to just assume its "easy" to make sprites, because it is NOT.

And think about this for a second. Say you did that 6 frame walk cycle in a day (lets assume this is colored and all that since theres not point if it is not. You now have to do that same walk cycle the NEXT day for each movement direction. And then again for EACH character. And then when you are done with that, suddenly you have to do all the other actions the characters will take.

Suddenly your "1 day walk cycle" doesn't even seem fast at all.

>> No.6365664
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Guess how long it took the artist to draw this picture.

>> No.6365670

>>6365660
Where did anyone ever say spriting is easy?

I just do not agree with your idea that it is harder than 3D modelling artists do these days.

>> No.6365673

>>6365664

Several hours. For one character. For one action. For one movement direction. And at not very high quality.

I don't see your point.

(I love this artists work though)

>> No.6365679

>>6365673
>I don't see your point.
Then you are beyond help. Enjoy your 3D. I sure as fuck don't.

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See that pic? Every character in Blazblue has several hundred sprites of this quality.
Every movement and animation looks smooth.
Do that for many more characters, and do that for 8 angles.
Oh shit, that's several thousand sprites in total.

>> No.6365681

>>6365673
>And at not very high quality.
IT NEEDS MORE BLOOM!!

>> No.6365682

>>6365670

Its not necessarily "harder". Its just that 10 hours of work on a model will get you results that are usable in more situations than 10 hours of work on sprites. To a game developer on a budget that wants to get the most bang for their buck, it is pretty much a no brainer.

>> No.6365688

>>6365679
>>6365681

You completely miss my point. By quality I meant resolution (it is still very pixilated, which isn't necessarily a bad thing). I even said I love this artist's work. Which I find hilarious that you keep ignoring that point so you can win the argument via "lol look at this 3d fag".

Sorry dudes, it doesn't work that way.

>> No.6365914

wtf..
Just searched for "Symphonia dawn undub patch" because the current one fucks with the skits.

A /jp/ thread turns up on google.
"wheres tha cache link?"
No cache link, click anyway, thread still exists, W T F ?

>> No.6365915

Just think, with 3D technology they take the same time to make a Disney movie, as they did 60 years ago with traditional media.

It's still a lot of work, and it looks like shit on top of it! Genius!

>> No.6365920

>>6365914
This happens a lot. Google constantly crawls 4chan it seems. Maybe because it's a high-traffic website.

>> No.6365985

>>6365915
>Disney
Confirmed for not Real Deal. Get out.

>> No.6365992

Rune Factory? More like babby's first galge.

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This 2D 3D thing confuses me.

>> No.6366600

>>6366447
The 3D figures are just imperfect projections of their perfect 2D selves

>> No.6366879

>>6366600
>The 2D drawings are just imperfect projections of their perfect 3D selves

>> No.6367641

so did anyone get into the lava ruins without crashing yet

>> No.6369318

>>6367641
I tried getting down that far but couldn't make it. I'll stock up some more and give it another run with better supplies.

>> No.6369600

>>6369318
that far? no, i just mean getting into the ruins.
as soon as it starts loading the dungeon, it freezes the game

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