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[Anonymous No.]

I am the strongest Servant. Gilgamesh wishes he was as cool as me.

I eat Ea for breakfast.

[Anonymous No.]

But can you kill Dead Apostle Ancestors?

[Anonymous No.]

Type-Moon powerlevels shitstorm incoming

[Anonymous No.]

But you couldn't even break Enkidu and you only have
Divinity rank D

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266857
>he thinks he's the strongest
>Ea rocked his Reality Marble and it wasn't even full power
>Ea can split the world in half if Gil has enough prana

Suck my balls Alexander, Gil was a much more badass King than you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266893
Shouldn't Enkidu be weaker against those with lower Divinity ranks? IIRC, it's stronger the more divinity you have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266897
Disregard I suck cocks, that was point, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266894

>Ea can split the world in half if Gil has enough prana

This isn't true.

It's a metaphorical statement. It splits the world [hell] into two [heaven and earth].

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266901
Metaphorical meanings become reality through the manifestation of Servants.
See: Excalibur's sheath granting real, physical invincibility.

[Myshkin !hQkb7UnWrk No.]

>>6266857
As much as I love you, Alex, you are weaken than Gil.
You will curbstomp every other Servant in the 5th War though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266901
Still, Ea is hellishly powerful.

[Anonymous No.]

>Alexander the Great
>beard
What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266906

It doesn't give INVINCIBILITY, it gives real and powerful rejuvination.

Shirou still has many, many dead ends with Avalon still going full-active in his chest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266920
>King Arthur is a woman with a magical penis

Come on man, this is Nasu we're talking about here. Historical accuracy is of no importance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266920

>King Arthur
>girl
>Gilgamesh
>Plate armor
>Medusa
>Sexy hair NOT made of snakes

You should be used to this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266920

>King Arthur.
>woman.

What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266929

>Historical accuracy is of no importance.
>myths

What.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266929
But Alexander popularized the practice of clean-shaving! He even made all his troops shave so people wouldn't grab their beards in combat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266938
Maybe with all that downtime floating outside of space and time waiting to be summoned for the Holy Grail War he grew a beard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266943

That's not how the Heroic Spirit system works!

It revives them from the prime of their life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266857
butbutbut you didn't conquer India because your troops were lazy and you died from a fever like a bitch in Alexandria, you don't sound that strong to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Enjoy getting petrified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266947
I thought that once they died and received heroic spirit status the Grail removed their souls or whatever from the flow of time or some such. What the hell was that picture with the time axis and whatnot in the VN for then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266980

It pulls their souls when their die, but their body (when summoned) is from the prime of their life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267000
Ah, ok.

So, who really is the strongest Servant? I'm guessing someone like Gil in Berserker class would rape stomp everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267012
Gil is nothing without GoB, would beserker gil be able to use that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267012
It's gotta be Beserker from Fate/Zero with a good mana supply. No way you could beat someone who just picks up whatever the fuck he wants and beats you with it. What's Hercules Berserker going to do to you when you're in your F-16 Noble Phantasm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267021

Uh, stand still, because a non-Noble Phantasm grabbed by Lancelot is promoted to rank D, and God Hand blocks everything below rank B?

>>6267012

Serious Gilgamesh and Full-power Saber with Avalon are both functionally unstoppable (except Gil-to-aforementioned-Saber).

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267021
But both Gil and Saber are at least his equal.

[Anonymous No.]

bitches don't know about the most ultimate being in nasu verse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267063
Nasu can't kill Neko Arc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267012
>>6267019

Gil would probably be a terrible Berserker.

Cuchulainn, now he'd be a nightmare as Berserker. Cuchulainn's warp-spasm would probably be a Noble Phantasm, since it's so closely bound with his legend.

[Anonymous No.]

so can a hero from World War 2 be a servant? Like with a gun and shit?

[Myshkin !hQkb7UnWrk No.]

>>6267034
Alexander with full strength can also be counted as one.
I don't think Excalibur would auto-kill him and his entire army of fucking Servants.

So yeah, it's: Lancelot, serious Gil, Saber + Avalon and full-power Alexander.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267077
Maybe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267077
>F-16 Noble Phantasm.
As long as they are considered a hero then I don't see why not.

[ロリあき No.]

>>6267087
I might actually pay money to see Servant Churchill and his Noble Phantasm cigar.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6266932
> >Sexy hair NOT made of snakes
She has the potential to develop those if she uses her powers too much, though. As said in >>6267000, Servants are summoned in the prime of their life (with the exception of Arturia, of course, who technically is summoned at the time just before her death, though since she was probably at her prime then it doesn't really matter). So basically, Medusa gets summoned BEFORE the point she got snakeified.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267103
wouldn't his np involve him sucking american/russian cock to save himself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267078

>Alexander with full strength can also be counted as one.
>I don't think Excalibur would auto-kill him and his entire army of fucking Servants.

Excalibur has the same range and tally as Enuma Elish, so it would eliminate Ionioi Hetairoi.

It also successfully destroyed the Gordius Wheel, so I'd say Alexander doesn't actually equal their level.

Ionioi Hetairoi isn't that useful. It really, really isn't. It's impressive, but not that STRONG. A lot of the Servants have ways to disrupt or counter it.
Truly an overhyped noble phantasm.

>Lancelot

He's not that strong either. He can power through Gate of Babylon, but every activated Noble Phantasm would smash him thoroughly because of his madness.

And if I remember correctly, without the Mad Enhancement, he's not fast enough to even keep up with Gate of Babylon.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

But you're not as moe as admiral saber

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267104

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267107

You're not as moe as King Saber.

[Myshkin !hQkb7UnWrk No.]

Cu Chulain is also rather strong.
Him + GIl would be an unstoppable team.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>6267119
You're not as woe as sader

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267126

You're not as black as Black Saber.

Which is really hard, since Black Saber is like totally fucking white. What the fuck?

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>6267129
Because she has the penis of a black man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267139
I wish I could have Saber Alter dominate me.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267034
I don't think that applies when the thing he grabs is already an M61 Vulcan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267139
I really hate to ask this, but...sauce?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267220

No, that just makes it a very rapid and hard to block rank D assault.

Akin to full-auto Gate of Babylon, but only rank D. It honestly would seriously threaten most Servants, but it would tink off Heracles like water.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp No.]

>>6267220
Same reason why nobody tried using guns on the Servants. It just doesn't work very well.

Lancelot probably gets an extra boost to make it affect normal servants, but Berserker also has the extra boost to immunize it.

[Anonymous No.]

Gilgamesh isnt the strongest... in every rout he loses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267278
Yeah, Haracles would be Lancelot's natural counter, like how Lancelot counters Gates of Baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267310
He does have a better win/kill ratio in comparison if you will

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267310

Being stronger =/= automatic victory.

What makes the difference in the Nasuverse is not purely raw power, but more importantly matchups.

Gil always gets matched against someone he's bad against.

Fate: Saber with Avalon.
UBW: UBW.
HF: highly regenerative Shadow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267278
Yet Hercules get raped by GoE in UBW. Yes, he's chained up, but that shouldn't negate his God Hand

[Anonymous No.]

Strongest Servant is boring, because you could argue that all day on any criteria you want.

A better one would be the strongest Servant team. I think Alexander + EMIYA would have made a truly horrifying combo, especially if they combined their Reality Marbles together. I don't know how the hell it would work in Nasuverse, but if it was possible everyone would be fucked silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267327
Lancelot's ability only makes what he holds into rank D noble phantasms, which won't pierce Berserker.

Gate of Babylon shoots out whatever the fuck rank noble phantasms, which does pierce Beerserker

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267278
It becomes something like a demon hellfire cannon, if you haven't read Fate/Zero, his F-16 doesn't stay as a regular F-16, or Gilgamesh would've just shot it down with the Gate of Babylon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267224
Surely someone has sauce on this? :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267325
Gil didn't get a chance to do anything in HF. It's like Nasu was going along thinking, "oh hey this is pretty great so far, I like this angle. Wait, what the fuck am I going to have Gil do during all of this? Fuck it, I'll just say the shadow took him unawares."

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267335

It became a rank D Noble Phantasm fighter plane.

It's not normal, but it's still not rank B/+, so it bounces off God Hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267349
It wasn't really unaware, he was under the impression he lolowned the shadow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267335
It's fucking F-15 not F-16.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp No.]

>>6267349
I actually really loved this twist, along with Lancer and Saber getting killed. It really cemented the "OSH that did not just happen feeling", where's it's no longer about skills or powerlevels, but death around every corner awaiting everyone who isn't careful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267335
It's fucking F-15 not F-16.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267366
Oh hey there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267335
Let me explain God Hand in simpler terms so you can understand.

God Hand is an ability that nullifies any damaging attack done against the user that is B rank or below. Think of it as a river. If you throw water at a river, it won't do anything. Now, lets say this river can make any low rank attacks into water so it doesn't get damaged. Like say you throw a small pebble, the river will turn that pebble into water and that won't do anything. And then Lancelot's ability would be to take everything he touches into a D-rank noble phantasm unless what he held is a noble phantasm already, in which case it retains its rank. So say Lancelot can make anything he touches into metal. So Lancelot picks up a stick and the stick turns into metal, then throws it into the river. Originally, any noble phantasm gets a boost in its rank when it is considered a normal attack, so that piece of stick, when held by Lancelot, and got turned into metal would then be considered around a rank B or so normal hit, but since its a noble phantasm, the normal attack property will be disregarded in favor of the noble phantasm rank, which is D. So then he throws the stick, which is metal, into the river, and the river will turn it into water. So no matter how many times you throw a stick into the river, it wont do anything because the river is water.

Do you understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6267421

"Simpler terms"? You just got ridiculously complex!

Lancelot doesn't make items exceed rank D unless they are already above rank D. Therefore, the F-15 is a rank D Noble Phantasm.
God Hand blocks anything rank C or below. Therefore, rank D is blocked.

THAT'S ALL.