/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Christ, Japan. If you miss the damned thing so much, just build another one. No one's going to stop you.

[Anonymous No.]

It would only be a piece of junk in this era.

[Anonymous No.]

They just like it because its essentially named "Battleship Japan."

Nah I'm kidding, it's entirely nostalgia over Space Battleship Yamato.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247108
Yes, but it would be a symbolic piece of junk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247108

Eh, not necessarily. Replace the turrets with a guided missile system, add a few CIWS emplacements, update the internals, add a electronic warfare suite and an array of countermeasures, and it'd fare just fine.

[Anonymous No.]

>No one's going to stop you.

I don't think Japan needs a self defense battleship. They don't need to be patrolling the sea of Korea anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

idk America might get mad. And that means America might let china rape japan like in ww2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247116
(Besides, if either Germany or Japan started this shit up again, they would get their collective asses slaughtered by everybody else with a gun and an itchy index finger).

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247120
>IMPLYING CHINA RAPED JAPAN IN WW2
Jesus christ, I can't stop learning, now read up on some history, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247115

but then it won't "look" like the Yamato.

Most battleships today are floating museums anyways, so if they built one as a "historic recreation of a famous battleship" and charged for tours as it slowly accumulated rust and barnacles sitting forever docked, I don't think anyone would give two shits. Some might laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247124
Problem?
sure is butthurt and underageb&

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247139
forgot my pic

[holic♪ !!ZuTOdIwSNEl No.]

>>6247120
>China rape Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247115
Even if it hadn't sunk, I don't think you realize how much it would cost to completely remodel a battleship to house those weapons. There's a reason why they haven't done the same with the remaining Iowa-class ships, the US could probably put in an order for another aircraft carrier or wing of F-22s for the same cost, and these would have far more utility than a battleship could ever dream to have.

Face it, sea-based aircraft and missile systems killed battleships. Bigger =/= better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247115
It would still be a battleship. It was already concluded in the early WW2 that battleships are a horrible waste of money and most battleships in the world were scrapped very soon after WW2. Not a single battleship has ever been built after 1944.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247155

Pocket battleships being the exception, and even those were phased out in favor of missile-based destroyers.

[Anonymous No.]

A single Ticonderoga-class has firepower far in excess of the Yamato. Battleships were huge because that was what was required to house the enormous guns that were the show-stoppers of the era. We have missiles now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247160
Although there's "battleship" in the name, pocket battleships can't really be considered battleships, since they are much smaller and more lightly armored than proper battleships, or even battlecruisers.

[Anonymous No.]

>Thinks Japan has the power or resources to have any kind of navy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247178
Except they do.

Being an island nation kinda warrants one, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247178

They're still one of the world's largest economy. The only thing limiting the size of the JMSDF are the terms of the Japanese Instrument of Surrender, and their lack of any burning desire to get back in the business of war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247185
0 aircraft carriers
0 destroyers
0 amphibious/landing craft
0 subs
100% coastguard

cool navy bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247190
Even if they did, people are too wary of them. Nobody would dare to sell them any resources.

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>>6247196

What. Where the fuck do you get your information?

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>>6247196

You really have no idea what you're talking about, huh.

The JMSDF has an official strength of 46,000 personnel (currently around 45,800 personnel), operating some 110 major warships, including 18 submarines, 47 destroyers and frigates, 29 mine warfare ships, 9 patrol craft and 9 amphibious assault ships (total displacement of approx. 432,000 tons).

They do not operate their own carriers as they are first and foremost a defense force, and are within striking distance of any enemy they might be called upon to engage. That said, the United States Navy has a substantial presence in Japan, which often includes one or more carriers, and the Pacific Fleet is a stone's throw away.

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>>6247190
Japan would have to import all the metal

Make it's own shipyard that's big enough or have it made some where else

Contract foreign specialized workers as Japan has few

and pull a few other things out of it's ass


Good luck with that

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247196
>no navy at all
>ven a raft boat full of Somali pirates could invade the island
2/10

[Anonymous No.]

Japan is still the second biggest economy of the world, unless you count EU as a single economy.

They can easily afford whatever they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247205
>>6247210
>>6247216
>Doesn't know America owns or has some random contract with nearly all those ships
But you know I have no idea what I'm talking about

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>>6247196

>I'm pulling numbers out of my asshole, lol

cool made up statistics, aniki.

Japan has a number of missile destroyers, in fact that's what makes up the majority of their fighting force. They've got ~30 or so, if my memory serves me. They also have 5 submarine squadrons.

The key omission is aircraft carriers, which have proved to be unimaginably useful in maritime conflicts, and it is a weakness of the JSDF. However, they do have 4 DDH class ships which are essentially "helicopter carriers."

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247212

Protip: Japan is larger than Rhode Island. Your talking points are nonsense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247212
>Make it's own shipyard

They have the best civilian shipyards in the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247228
size =/= resources
some retards on here
>>6247230
>civilian shipyard
If you want a small destroyer sure
>>6247232
see
>>6247224

let the butthurt continue

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Japan allowed to have weapons at all?

Fuck those bastards, they still haven't paid the price for their warcrimes!

[Anonymous No.]

ITT intentional logical fallicies/Korean logic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247224

That logic is like saying Iran has no Air force because they bought F-14's on a US contract.

They obey the Japanese naval chain of command, hence they are Japanese ships.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247250
Iran actually bought them or is paying for them. Most of the war ships in japan are basically US property and or contracted out.

so much buttmad

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247250

Also, the vast majority were built, and are owned in full by, the Japanese military. Logistical support was, of course, provided by the Americans, as they do with any nation permitted to use variants of their designs.

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>>6247224

All weapons of US infantry except M-16 are european designs. And M-16 is still in use despite being outdated crap only because it's the last american weapon used by US infantry.

Does that mean US army belong to EU?

[Anonymous No.]

This thing is just about the same size anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247250
>>6247262
>They obey the Japanese naval chain of command
>owned in full by, the Japanese military.
lol you clowns actually think Japan can make it's own decision on going to war. That's funny.

[Anonymous No.]

Was this battleship used during WW2? Then it was used for evil purposes, and the Japs are admiring this vehicle responsible for warcrime?

They REALLY want that third nuke, don't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247272
For starter, it wasn't a nuke, it was an atom bomb.

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>>6247263
1.You have no idea who JMB is
2.the infantry uses the m4 or the m16a2
3.Europeans use the a rifle called the c8 which is a licensed out copy of the m16 design
4.you mad and a troll

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247259

Again, chain of command is not American.

Some Captain in the USN couldn't board a JSDF vessel and be like LOL I NEED THAT SHIP YOU DRIVE. The ships, regardless of financial ownership or contract status, answer only to JSDF command.

The US government could put pressure on the Japanese government to make them do certain things, and "gently" remind them of who paid for their ships if they resist, but ultimately those ships are under JSDF control, and those orders would come from JSDF personnel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247281
>Europeans use the a rifle called the c8
Denmark, Netherlands, UK ≠ whole Europe

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah. Japan is completely insignificant.

It's not like they are USA's most important ally and one of the top3 economies of the world.

Obama bowed like a peasant before the emperor just because he felt like it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247290
Another goof thinking Japan can make it's own decision on going to war and where it's ships can go. Keep making shit up though if it makes you feel better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247299
>USA's most important ally
Israel would like a word with you

[Anonymous No.]

Navy vessels are so pretty, even though they're all gray. If only they were crewed by lolis in frills and silly hats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247299
No one said the Japan was insignificant. Go troll some where else.
>>6247300
>Denmark, Netherlands, UK
Some of the major nato forces in Afghanistan other than Germany and france.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247312
Israel is not the USA's ally. The USA is Israel's ally. Get it right.

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>>6247302

You're not being very forthcoming on who does make these decisions, which makes me doubt the authenticity of your claims...

so who does call the shots? Jews? The Aliens?

Or are you implying that the JSDF is a US puppet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247281

1. M4 = shortened M16
2. USA is now using M16A4
3. UK use Enfields, France use FAMAS, Germany use H&K G36, Italy use Beretta, Spain use CETME, Poland use Beryl, etc.

US standard pistol = Beretta
US standard light machine gun = FN Minimi
US standard machine gun = FN MAG

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247319
We use this, it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247320
That doesn't mean they wouldn't help he US if it asked.

[Anonymous No.]

what is this, /k/? /new/?

I thought this board was Otaku culture, not Japan general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247105
Yes there is fuckhead. If you ever read newspaper, you'd know about international convention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247299
Since when is the EU a country?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247341
Since 2020

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247105
that thing is very expensive you know, and besides today's new weapons make their class obsolete, just like the American Iowa class battleships that ended up as tourist attraction

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247327
They are basically all governed by the treaty so I guess you could say America
>>6247332
>3. UK use Enfields, France use FAMAS, Germany use H&K G36, Italy use Beretta, Spain use CETME, Poland use Beryl, etc
COOWIDOOTY

>US standard pistol = Beretta
>US standard light machine gun = FN Minimi
>US standard machine gun = FN MAG
should add standard for Nato also the Beratta is based off a US design

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247335
between /jp/ and /k/ there's always been a good relationship but if you are new here you won't know.

[None !OSakaQCVow No.]

>>6247341
Pretty soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247366
>implying you faggots don't spam us with katana
I know it's you

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247365
Yeah and those design are based of russian and german designs, these degins are based of prussian designs etc.etc. HURR We can go back for ever... Arguing about this is fucking ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247382
>madd that jmb was American

[None !OSakaQCVow No.]

>>6247371
I don't believe anyway here gives a fuck about katana unless there's a Youmu attached to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247365
>standard for Nato

This proves you have no idea what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247393
Yes because Nato just brings what ever the fuck they want and just has a party.
0/10

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247382

Russians, or better Prussians invented bullpup rifles?

[Anonymous No.]

US won't let them have any carriers as they can't play nice with corea and china

[Anonymous No.]

See this bitches! It was designed by a nigger. And it was the best weapon for thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitstorm coming...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247409
And they still use them to this day, except the ones that were taken as slaves and grew up in white countries.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247365
>the Beratta is based off a US design

You are a gigantic faggot who doesn't know what the fuck is he talking about.

Pic related.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247398

NATO has standardized calibers, not firearms, you fucktard.
Almost every significant NATO country has its own service weapons, and fuck me, some don't even use the STANAG calibers.

I mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>japan

>not butthurt over ww2

[Anonymous No.]

this post is a friendly reminder that the IJN built the most hideous vessel in the history of human maritime endeavors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247452
>troll
>get called out on bullshit claims about weapons
>ohhh gotta change the topic
>babbys_first_troll.jpg

Seriously...

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247458
Looks fine to me, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

why is Moonland still obsessed over this battleship again?

As far as I remember, Battleship Yamato didn't even see too much action aside from being sunk somewhere around Okinawa when the Tojos had a genius idea of using it to defend the island against the whole Allied navy.

[No.]

>>6247482
it looks like they threw fifty oil rigs on a bigger oil rig

[Anonymous No.]

nippon shall arise again and reclaim it's chinese and korean colonies

[Anonymous No.]

shitty battleship, nothing of value was lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247488
What else do they have? A ship that went down in the defense of the country, 2 craters, and a military in which half the commanding officers were executed for warcrimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247299
dammit they were both bowing to each other

but obama is like 3 feet taller than the emperor so he had to bow a lot more

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>>6247548
I guess you have a point. The only positive things worth remembering in all of Imperial moonland was its Yamato-class battleships.

Maybe that's why they so vehemently deny everything else they did. Still doesn't excuse them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247583
Obviously

http://ampontan.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/youll-be-sorry/

[Anonymous No.]

those ships were the largest and grandest battleships ever built

I'd feel nostalgic about them too

it's a shame their ending wasn't so grand as that of the lesser bismark, if you can call that grand

at least before it was crippled by a single, tiny aircraft, the Bismark managed to sink the pride of the British navy, the Hood, and kill every sailor on board except for 3 out of the 1,418

[Anonymous No.]

they were good ships, its just that they were never escorted and had no air cover

[Anonymous No.]

>>6247630
>Implying scripted political statements actually represent social opinion