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If you are new to forex, you may want to try it here: http://www.marketiva.com/

It's a perfect job for all you NEETs out there who haven't been up with the money making threads. It's basically "growing" money.

Anyway, for some reason Marketiva set my margins to 0, is that because I kept buying and closing? I also googled some reviews about Marketiva and they aren't so good.

Anyone know a better broker than Marketiva?

>> No.6198709

It's a perfect way to lose all your money.

>> No.6198717
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6198717

>It's basically "growing" money.

>> No.6198720

>>6198709
So is being an otaku.
Wasting money is an integral part of otaku culture.

>> No.6198725

Get used to using a candlestick styled chart OP

>> No.6198733

MetaTrader 4 is a good scriptable platform. If you can't find a legitimate broker, give up already.

>> No.6198756

You dont earn enough money to live with that.

>> No.6198758

http://pinkubentou.blogspot.com/2010/09/what-fuck-is-forex.html#comments

>> No.6198775

>>6198758
>about me
>jelly
>god tier /jp/ poster
>autism
this is why I hate the guts out of /jp/ outside anonimity.

>> No.6198779

>>6198720
There's a difference between "wasting money" and "losing money."

>> No.6198786
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>>6198775
Autism.

>> No.6198810

EUR/X was going nuts a few minutes ago

>> No.6198831

Is Forex what Sachi was all into?

>> No.6198837

>investing requires having detailed information on how firms are doing, what's the latest hot trend, etc
>/jp/
I can't see this ending nicely

>> No.6198844

>>6198837
Not it doesn't, just look at charts all day long.

>> No.6198863

>>6198844
You aren't going to be very good at it without being informed.

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>>6198831

>> No.6198886

>>6198866
I completely forgot about Sharin, now I know what Sachi.

>> No.6198889

>>6198690
what is that red dots indicator called?

>> No.6198890

There's a few different kinds of analytical strategies investors can utilize. Even in academic circles, the argument over which strategy is superior in a given situation is not always clear cut. Regardless of what you choose, don't risk more than you are willing to lose.

>> No.6198895

>>6198863
What if I ask mai waifu for advice on where to invest?

>> No.6198923

So, how much ACTUAL money have you made off this forex nonsense?

I've never heard anything but stories of bankruptcy and barely scraping by from common folks who try to enter the stock market.

>> No.6198932

Staying abreast of the geopolitical conditions and economic status of the major world powers are necessary to have a chance of winning at this game. Also never gamble more than you are afraid to lose as this IS gambling. Also Taxes; keep track of what you owe and pay them unless you like jail.

>> No.6198948

>>6198923
Although I'm still pretty new to this, I don't get how people can lose alot of money from forex. Even if the currency you trade drops alot there is a chance it will climb back up. You can have a auto sell exit thing too if it drops too low and you want to sell it to minimize loss.

seems alot more safe to me because stocks can plummet to 0 value, currencies can not

>> No.6198959

>>6198948
orly? Ever hear of the 1920's and 1930's

>> No.6198960

>>6198889
http://www.babypips.com/school/parabolic_sar.html

>> No.6198963

>>6198923
Futures are a zero sum game. One side wins and another loses. Stocks are something else entirely.

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6199053

>stocks can plummet to 0 value, currencies can not
Well, they can go close enough to 0 to be practically worthless.

Pic related, it's worth less than $0.01 now.

>> No.6199067

Can you fall into debt or get bankrupt in forex?

>> No.6199076

>>6199067
no, unless you put ALL your money into forex
real men trade gold

>> No.6199079

>>6199067
You can't lose more money than you put on Forex in the first place.

>> No.6199088

>>6199079
Is margin trading allowed? If it is you certainly can.

>> No.6199101

>>6198690
>profit on every fake attempt
>loss on every real one

Not big surprise there, OP.

>> No.6199119

Get out forex devs.

Next they'll be hawking those useless gold coins here.

>> No.6199135

>>6199088
It's called leveraging, and they liquidate your shit for you before your debt goes beyond your deposit.

>> No.6199160

>>6199079
So baasically the amount of money you put in can only shrink but will never hit negative?

>> No.6199163 [DELETED] 

>>6199160
No, in fact it can even jump back to what you bought it for

>> No.6199167

>>6199163
I'm pretty sure you've lost it all if it hits 0 though.

>> No.6199170

>It really sounds promising, never heard of it before the topic on jaypee. Will try it when I get enough money XD
why

>> No.6199171

>>6199167
oh shit, I misread your question

>> No.6199178

>>6199167
Sure, it COULD. If he doesn't trade with margin, no one has to liquidate his goods.

>> No.6199193

I don't know shit about forex, but I know when trading stocks you can buy stock with a stop-loss clause so that the broker sells it for you automatically when it has lost a certain percentage of value, to prevent you losing too much money, accidentally or otherwise.

>> No.6199204

>>6198758
>Say, you bought Y850 for $10.
>You just now stocked Yen at a rate of Y85 per 1USD at Y850.
>Now you wait until Yen goes up to Y80 per 1USD and proceed to exchange your Y850 back to dollar.
>Now you get $10.625 (850 divided by 80).

Wow, by risking my money I get a whole 62 cents back!

Does that even cover your broker fees? You might as well go to, like, an actual casino.

>> No.6199210

>>6199204
The loss you're risking is proportional to the gain.

>> No.6199218

>>6199204
I'm pretty clueless about this, but is there a need to get a broker?

>> No.6199225

>>6199218
yeah I think unless you are a millionaire

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>>6199210
That's still a 0.62% return...

>> No.6199239

>>6199235
No, it's a 6.2% return.

Which the blogger then admits is more than you'll see happen most days.

>> No.6199248

>>6199210
>>6199235
>>6199239

Guys, I think this is not a way to gain money. You are doing this wrong. People don't make invests to gain money, they do it to save money.

Think about it, if you want to gain something valuable, you have to spend an incredible ammount of money on this, and wait for the right moment to sell what you bought.

Even if you do it in the right moment, your gain will be very low, unless you wait for about... 10 years, and maybe with a bit of luck you can gain a 10% (with a bit of luck) of what you have invested.

I guess people do this because it's better to have their money on invests rather than having it in a bank account.

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>>6199248

>> No.6199256

>>6199253
And?

>> No.6199260

If any of you could actually make any money from this, you would have been scouted by a major investment company long ago.

>> No.6199294

>>6199260
I thought it was hard too, then I tried the demo and boy was it easier than I thought.

>> No.6199304

>>6199294
THATS HOW THEY LURE YOU IN ANON

>> No.6199309

>>6199253
I don't get it. You bought 20000 Yen at, what...

Can you explain it? I'm intrigued.

>> No.6199319

>>6199309
He just bought 20k Yens. In other words, he exchanged about $221.24 into yens.

Then, he will wait for the Yen to raise it's value, so he can sell it at a higher price.

>> No.6199322

Do you intend to update that blog more? I might follow it.

>> No.6199360

All I have to say is that you should do 500-1,000 demo trades before even attempting to use real money.

Unless you don't care about losing it, of course. You'll eventually be losing it hard without the proper know-how.

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6199393

This thing doesn't accept paypal and I don't know how to do a wire transfer or any of that other stuff.

>> No.6199462

Damn, where's old Investment Banker when we need him?

>> No.6199516

>>6198810
just made a 50 pip sale

oh yeah

>> No.6199531

>>6199462
In prison, trying to stave off malnutrition while being beaten by guards.

>> No.6199532

Doesn't say anywhere on Marketiva's site that it doesn't, but I get the impression that it doesn't take GBP. Any brokers a Britfag could use?

>> No.6199538

Reported for viral marketing, enjoy your permanent ban.

>> No.6199540

>>6199531
Don't forget the prison rape.

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>>6199538
>implying anyone was banned for viral marketing Recettear

>> No.6199567

enjoy your 6 cents a day
its easier to bot ads since it requires practically no effort
still, you're not going to make more than 10 $ a month.

try looking for a real job

>> No.6199572

>>6199532
I would look for broker in the Netherlands.

>> No.6199591

>>6199567
>you're not going to make more than 10 $ a month
See >>6199253

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>>6199567
I have looked for a real job for about six months and have been turned down everywhere I have applied.

>> No.6199626

>>6199591

How many money have you invested?

How many money you got on profit?

As I said, you must invest lots of money to gain something. And even if so, that gain is nothing of the other world.

In other words, you can't live with what you gain with this shit. Use it if you want to save money, or as a hobby if you have money to spend on it.

>> No.6199792

Realistically speaking, how much money do you need to get started on forex?

I don't have $2000 to spare.

>> No.6199806

>>6199792
start with $50
after you've played with a demo account for awhile

>> No.6199811

>>6199626
unless you're good at it and have about $2000 to invest you won't be able to sustain yourself on it
start with $50 and work your way up to $2000

>> No.6199823

for anyone looking for a broker I'd recommend FXOpen

>> No.6199906

This is a really helpful thread, thanks.

And can I say, that these recent threads and reading about everyone.. ;_;

I love all of you so much.

>> No.6199986

Can you get bankrupt on forex?
I'd like to try this but I don't want to incur a $100000 debt.

>> No.6199996

>>6199986
no, you can only lose what you invest into your forex account unless you do margin trading or something

>> No.6200000

Unless you have money to gamble with, fuck that.

>> No.6200004

Finally I'll put my Recettear experience to make actual money!

>> No.6200035

>>6200000

Cool pents, bro.

Back on topic, trading gold = good or bad?

>> No.6200042

>>6200035

Gold is currently in a bubble. It's probably not at the peak of the bubble yet, and furthermore, it's highly likely that we're going to hit a massive amount of stagflation 2-4 years from now (10-20% inflation rates, think back to the early 80s).

But gold will crash. The only question is when. Historically, gold has been an utterly terrible investment.

>> No.6200049

Silver seems like it will bubble over the next decade or so, might that be a worthy investment were you to put significant money on it?

>> No.6200061

>>6199996
So what happens if you incur a debt?
Do they hire a repo man to track you down or something?

>> No.6200063

>>6199248
>You are doing this wrong. People don't make invests to gain money, they do it to save money.

Read Robert Kiyosaki books, man. Real life investors aren't actually going for saving cash, they are going for making it. It is not "play it safe" with them, it is "play it smart, calculate the risk".

>>6199626
>As I said, you must invest lots of money to gain something. And even if so, that gain is nothing of the other world.

Ever heard how George Soros made $1.8 billion by shorting British pounds and buying German marks back in Spetember 1992? That took him 1 week. 1 week to make $1,8 billion.
Sure is 'nothing of the other world.'

>> No.6200064

I'm interested to poke around this subject so if I can get to a confident place I have around $1000 to play with.

What are some reliable brokers, and a place to train in a demo mode.

>> No.6200074

>>6200049

Generally the time to invest is not after everyone is already saying you should invest.

Right now, if I had a ton of money that I wanted to put in a *relatively* low-risk investment (that is, not something like forex that will disappear overnight on a bad day), here's what I'd do.

The market is currently going nowhere fast. It'll continue to go nowhere fast for at least a year, probably. This means you can make a lot of money writing covered calls. I did this a while back and made a pretty good return for a while. Here's an example:

Suppose I bought $10,000 in Intel shares 1 year ago at $19. Note -- today, they're still $19! The market has gone nowhere.

Every month, I sell a call option equal to the size of my shares at about $1 over the current strike price of the stock. Almost all of the time the call option is never exercised. If it is, I still lose nothing, because I made money on the Intel shares (which I can use to buy them back).

Currently, the price of a one month call option of that sort is about 30 cents. This means every month I earn about 30 cents per share. Then, add this to 16 cents per quarter from dividends. That gives about $4.20 per year per share -- almost a 25% return with basically zero risk. The only possible risk is that Intel stock crashes, which is pretty unlikely in the near-term. If you're worried about putting all your eggs in one basket, you can do this with a whole bunch of different stocks at once.

If you want to do this kind of options trading, sign up for a thinkorswim account. You can do it for free (with no investment) using fake money, which is good practice to learn how things work.

>> No.6200078

>>6200061

Exchanges like Forex are impossible to get a debt in. If you run out of money, your position is instantly sold.

>>6200064

Sign up for a thinkorswim account.

>> No.6200081

>>6200063
>Read Robert Kiyosaki books, man. Real life investors aren't actually going for saving cash, they are going for making it. It is not "play it safe" with them, it is "play it smart, calculate the risk".

To a real investor, they're the *same thing*. Saving is about making it, and making it is about saving. A smart investor never takes on a risk that can kill him, and never bets everything on a huge gain, even if he's absolutely sure it's going to come.

A smart investor knows that it's better to make 15% a year reliably than to make 50% a year with a 20% chance of fucking up and going bankrupt -- because the latter will fail after a few good years.

>> No.6200107

>>6200081
To elaborate -- a very simple example:

Suppose it's 2008 and I hear Bear Stearns is in bad shape. I could put all the money I have into put options (shorting), betting that they'll fail. If I'm wrong, I lose everything. If I'm right, I gain 1000%.

Or I could put 25% of my money into puts. If I'm right, I gain 250% of my money, not 1000%. But if I'm wrong, I only lose 25%. I'm not fucked.

>> No.6200112

I'm interested in trying this, is marketiva the program I should be using?

>> No.6200182

>>6200081
>>6200107
>A smart investor knows that it's better to make 15% a year reliably than to make 50% a year with a 20% chance of fucking up and going bankrupt -- because the latter will fail after a few good years.

That's what I am talking about: "play smart, calculate your risk". Selling/buying stuff just because you feel like it is the right moment, without backing by proper knowledge, experience and calculations, is incredibly stupid.
Your example is perfect. On one side we have a risk of being completely wiped out, on the other - taking a nice hit, but a hit that is not fatal. You can't always win, you always have to assume that you are going to get some hits along the way.

>> No.6200234

I opened up a demo account on FXOpen and I can't make any money. ;_;
All I can do is break even. ;_;

>> No.6200252

Has somebody here made money on Forex? I heard from different sources that because of huge competition it's nearly impossible to make money without huge starting capital. The ones making money are "consultants" and trainers who failed on Forex.

>> No.6200287

started a forex demo account on fxopen and started trading in gold with an intitial 200$ deposit and 1:500 leverage, and started buying gold at 0.10 and made around 50$ in one day.

>> No.6200297

>>6200234
you don't start out a wizard
you start out an apprentice
keep practicing anon.
and read all you can about forex.

>> No.6200301

>>6200287
I made almost $2000 on silver one day on a demo account
makes me wish I had any real money to play with

>> No.6200332

>>6200287
>>6200301
What's difference between demo and real accounts? Except you don't lose anything in the demo what else?

>> No.6200337

>>6200332
the demo account is just the same as a real account except the money is fake.

>> No.6200349

I opened up an account with $50 in it but it wouldn't let me trade. Says I don't have enough money.

>> No.6200353

>>6200332
the commission fee which is like a few percent of your earnings and the leverage limits, like on fx open you can go from 1:1 to 1:500 when you have under 25,000 USD and margin call and stop out (if you profit drops too low in a trade this is the percentage that it will close automatically)

>> No.6200365

>>6200349
buy smaller lots, that should be obvious
if you opened an account with real money before even trying a demo account even god can't save you now

>> No.6200368

Don't open a standard account with less than $5000
fair warning
most people on /jp/ should be using a micro account

>> No.6200440

I remember first hearing about this on the old anonib hikki board, and did some reading.
The general consensus I got was like >>6200252 said, that forex trading needs large amounts of capital and high tolerance for risk to make any substantial profit.

The currency market changes so quick that you can very easily lose anything you made very quickly.

>>6200063
And how much capital did soros have at the beginning of that week? Probably enough to keep an average /jp/er in figures and rent for the rest of his life.

>> No.6200466

>>6200440
>The currency market changes so quick that you can very easily lose anything you made very quickly.
But if it goes down, you don't have to sell at a loss; you can wait for it to go back up again, surely?

The worst that can happen is that you panic and sell while the price is in a trough, I would think, but I haven't tried this and don't intend to.

>> No.6200522

I've got a good deal of capital and am looking into investing. Does anyone have any recommendations on reading for forex and what program I should be using?

>> No.6200526

Why the fuck do /jp/sies love Marketiva so much?

>> No.6200531

>>6200526
Because free $5.

And you can do live and virtual trading in the same window.

>> No.6200535

>>6200522
use http://www.fxopen.com/ and start a demo account with the same amount of starting deposit as you plan to use when you start for real,. Try the demo for like a week at least and read http://www.babypips.com/school/the_skinny_on_forex.html at least the pre-school section

>> No.6200540

>First time ever coming to /jp/
>Expecting touhou threads and stuff about jap bands
>Find thread about stocks and market trading being discussed like this is just another thing you do all the time.

I am seriously confused.

>> No.6200550

>>6200540
I blame Recetear.

>> No.6200554

>>6200540
Who are you quoting?

>> No.6200557

>>6200540
Anon is so into touhou that he doesn't work but now he is trying to find a way to pay for his food. This thread doesn't seem to be about touhou? You cannot be more wrong. It is the essence of touhou.

>> No.6200559

>>6200440
>And how much capital did soros have at the beginning of that week? Probably enough to keep an average /jp/er in figures and rent for the rest of his life.

He and his team put up around $10 billion on that deal. The magnitude of that is borderline insane.
Just don't forget that Soros didn't start out as a billionaire. He worked as a railway porter and as a waiter when he was a student.

>> No.6200576

>>6200559
The question was, how much money did he invest to rake the 10 billion.
Or did I miss something?

>> No.6200582

>>6200535
Excellent, thanks

>> No.6200587

>>6200550
Hmmm, that could be it.

>>6200554
Not quoting anyone, just stating my confusion at /jp/ people being intense day traders. while listening to korean pop bands.

>> No.6200588

>ITT

That´s not how stocks work.

You´re just getting fucked over/used by real stock brokers (OP, probably) who know that there are a million of you faggots out there, sitting at home, trying to live the easy life.

Have fun with achieving nothing in the end.

Bye.

Nya.

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6200594

>Stocks
>Profitable

Sure.

You might as well try to RWT in WoW.

>> No.6200625

>>6200588
It possible but what profits anon can get from spaming fxopen and other shit?

>> No.6200633

>>6200576
>The question was, how much money did he invest to rake the 10 billion.

Eh, really?
Well, if the question was like that... who knows how much he invested into himself to get that far? But we clearly can see his path. He was a nobody at first, a fucking waiter. Then an entry-level position in a bank, then a trader and so on.
Accumulating enough cash to pull off pretty stunts like that Black Wednesday takes years and years. But I get a feeling that most of /jp/ think they can pebble-trade for a fortnight and become next hot shit in the business world.

>> No.6200661

>>6200633
Moral of the story: Getting rich takes time and effort.

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It's a good thing you don't have much money to lose in the first place, Anon. I don't know about Forex as far as trading online goes, but I do know that when someone's offering you a sure way of making money, they're talking out of their ass. It doesn't look like they're explicitly saying that, but some of you seem to be thinking that way, and it's a mistake.

Successful trading takes knowledge and patience. There's probably a reason you're a guy sitting at home in his underwear at 2pm on a Tuesday checking /jp/ with an eroge running in the background.

But whatever, it's your fifty dollars. Happy trading!

>> No.6200674

Moral of the story: You will never be a lucky bastard born with a spoon of gold in the mouth ;_;.

>> No.6200679

>>6198720
That's not true at all. Not since the Internet.

>> No.6200711

>>6200559
Don't forget his bag of jewgold though.

>> No.6200782

which ones allow to program extensions or things like that?

>> No.6200837

>>6200782
The program used by fxopen is scriptable but I can't figure out how to run the script.

>> No.6200849

>>6200588
>That´s not how stocks work.
if you actually bothered to read and try out gold and currency trading you would see that it takes a few months for an average jp goer to make a decent profit and that it's it's pretty different than stocks

>> No.6200863

Here's a strategy: find out from historical data which currencies are currently underperforming the most and buy a load of them. Wait for them to return to market value. ??? Profit!

Does this sound like a good strategy? I have no clue.

>> No.6200872

>>6200863
>which currencies are currently underperforming the most

US DOLLAR
Right now.

>> No.6200895

>>6200872
Won't be going back.
Anytime soon.

>> No.6200891

OP here, just woke up

>>6198810
Just made a 90 pip sale, if only this was real money damnit.

For the people recommending FXopen, googled some reviews about them and got some bad stuff:

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=50202
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=50879

>> No.6200896

>>6200872
Stupid bet. You realize the US is on the verge of collapse?

>> No.6200912

>>6200863
There are people with master's degrees and PhDs who've been trying to do this for many, many years. Their track record, in general, is actually worse the results you'd get randomly betting.

So no. Unless you have an intricate knowledge of international finance and you'd like to give it a shot.

>> No.6200913

>>6200896
>US
>collapse
wwwwwwwwww

>> No.6200922

Tell me what I should buy and sell right now, /jp/.

>> No.6200925

NOT /JP/ RELATED

>> No.6200926

>>6200922
Buy NEET souls, sell virgin souls.

>> No.6200929

>>6200891
hmm do you know of any other good brokers besides marketiva?

>> No.6200948

>>6200913
>British Empire
>dismantled
WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT?

>> No.6200971

>>6200891
if you read down those posts about fxopen you can see that the guy was lag trading
they froze his account because he was cheating the hell out of them

>> No.6200989

If you're using Maretiva remember that you have to keep every position open for at least 5 minutes. Closing a position after less than 5 minutes is against their rules, and you can get your account suspended for it.

>> No.6201008

>>6200948
>>British Empire
>>Dismantled only after the 2 biggest, costliest (in lives and money) wars IN HUMAN HISTORY

Your analogy is stupid. America collapses, it's because the rich bought thee government and sold the country to china while the middle class let them get away with it.

>> No.6201034

>>6201008
He was just providing an example of a collapsed empire, not a full analogy.

>> No.6201105

its seems a lot of the "scam" reviews for marketiva are just people who tried to place like 60 orders during a system freeze and bitch when they cant withdraw 10,000USD at once

>> No.6201117

Why is this obvious scam thread still getting bumped?

>> No.6201127 [DELETED] 

anyone have any experience with gomarkets? i'd prefer a broker that used paypal

>> No.6201140

anyone know of a broker that uses paypal?

>> No.6201163

>>6201140
Nope

>transactions do not require a credit card or bank account and are immune against certain scams because they are final and cannot be retracted; this is similar to e-gold and cash and unlike credit card transactions and PayPal.

>> No.6201164

>>6201117
it's not a scam, I doubt /jp/ anons are going to profit from other anons investing, they didn't even link referer signup urls or anything.
it's more like extreme wishful thinking because we all want a way to avoid working.
enjoy your 0.75$ monthly at best.

>> No.6201184

>>6201163
eh I guess ill start up a moneybookers then

>> No.6201184,1 [INTERNAL] 

so is marketiva the most reliable broker /jp/ has?

>> No.6201184,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,1
They've been in business for over 5 years and many people still use their broker, so I guess they can't be that bad. But I'm sure there are more reliable companies.

>> No.6201184,3 [INTERNAL] 

It's pretty ridiculous how sheepish and idiotic /jp/ is.

How does the majority of /jp/ think this Forex bullshit will work...

>> No.6201184,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,3
I find it ridiculous that some people think that Forex doesn't work when it obviously does.

>> No.6201184,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,3
The only thing that's bullshit about Forex is the 'systems' and 'robots' people try and hawk that have 'guaranteed returns'. Same with stocks. Small-time day traders can make money, but they have bullshit pitched at them, too. Doesn't mean the stock market is a scam.

>> No.6201184,6 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,4
Prove me wrong, and I'll just take pride in the fact that you'll likely lose money.

>>6201184,5
Stocks aren't a scam, but it's a coinsink for people who don't know much about them or don't put up a decent principal ($20,000+ at least) across multiple businesses.

>> No.6201184,7 [INTERNAL] 

I made 20k with the 10k virtual money I got. Am I ready for the live now?

>> No.6201184,8 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,7
Sure, go ahead.

>> No.6201184,9 [INTERNAL] 

I know what margins are but I don't understand leverage, someone care to explain?

>> No.6201184,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,9
http://www.forex4noobs.com/forex-education/pips-and-profits.php

Read the "What is Leverage?" part.

>> No.6201184,11 [INTERNAL] 

I keep seeing these threads, yet I haven't seen anyone actually post some decent profits of real money, just virtual money.

>> No.6201184,12 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,11
I don't have any real money to invest. ಥ_ಥ

>> No.6201184,13 [INTERNAL] 

Doesn't it cost money for the commission or transfering of the currencies when you are trading? Or is it all free?

I'm thinking about opening a 500$ account but afraid that that is too little.

>> No.6201184,14 [INTERNAL] 

>>6201184,13
like 1% to 5% percent cost I think, also 500$ is fine if you steadily make really small trades that can't get margin called when it gets too low, however you profits will suck for like a month or two until you have enough money to take bigger risks and earn more money

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