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typemoon or alicesoft protags Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:01:08 2010 No.6197500 [Reply] [Original]

Which series has better protagonist? specificly male leads.

type moon has better abilities, back story, and epic/gar moments.
alicesoft seems to have been harems, character(personality), and not fundamentally flawed.

I would want to be an alicesoft lead rather than a typemoon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:02:08 2010 No.6197503 >typemoon male lead >good HAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:03:08 2010 No.6197505 ITT Sengoku and BBA vs. Tsukihime and F/SN.

>>	A Certain Magical !HOMOfybeOY Mon Sep 27 22:03:08 2010 No.6197508 >epic/gar moments. reported

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:04:08 2010 No.6197511 Fate would have been great if they had kept King Arthur male as originally planned and had a female protagonist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:04:08 2010 No.6197513 Worst thread on /jp/ right now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:05:08 2010 No.6197516 i wanted to clarify on "flawed" Rshiki - personally disorder, anti-social Tshiki - alternate personality disorder, can/will die due to his own power. Shirou - delusional, naive, doesn't die when killed. emo in the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:05:08 2010 No.6197519 >>6197511 Gil lusting after Saver, so good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:06:08 2010 No.6197524 >>6197519 gil could be a girl. that would be hot. she would look like arc but would wanna rape you...... GOD I WANT!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:07:08 2010 No.6197526 Alicesoft, no contest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:07:08 2010 No.6197530 >>6197505 there are a lot of other alicesoft titles, though i get what you mean cause most people don't play jap vers.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Sep 27 22:08:08 2010 No.6197535

>>6197516
Nanaya Shiki isn't going to die due to his power. He's going to die due to the fact that he's already died once before due to being gored to death and having his life stolen.

It's like getting a disease, and recovering, but suffering extensive damage due to it that lowers your life expectancy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:09:08 2010 No.6197540 Gonna go with Alicesoft here. The protag retardation is played out for laughs there. In T-M, protag retardation is painful, like Kampfer Natsurium dense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:10:08 2010 No.6197542 >>6197535 Nanaya shiki doesn't exist, only as an illusion of Tshiki. Tohno shiki exists and will die if his eyes grow too powerful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:11:08 2010 No.6197552 >>6197542 I think he meant SHIKI.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:11:08 2010 No.6197549 File: 198 KB, 496x424, arcueid and satsujinki.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6197542

>>	Pestilence !!vKqWKxLMglQ Mon Sep 27 22:11:08 2010 No.6197547 this is a troll thread, but alicesoft all the way.

Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:12:08 2010 No.6197559

>>6197540
i know what you mean, alicesoft protags aren't exactly "smart" but they aren't slow to the point. they are more like idiots that are stupid cause they are strong enough to not need to be smart.

anyone played pastel chime cont..?
i played jap ver but don't know the personality of the male protag.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:14:08 2010 No.6197564 >>6197549 >>6197552 i know tshiki is actually nshiki, but everyone in japan refers to tshiki as "real shiki" whereas nanaya is ONLY the assassin alternate if nanaya wasn't wiped out/shiki became a serial killer.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Sep 27 22:14:08 2010 No.6197566

>>6197542
Nanaya Shiki is "Tohno" Shiki. "Tohno" Shiki is going to die young, regardless of whether he uses his eyes or not. That's confirmed in Eclipse.

That's sort of the side effect of becoming SHIKI's gas station and dying once.

The only likely way of surviving is by becoming a Dead Apostle, which he in no way would agree to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:15:08 2010 No.6197569 >>6197559 No. But I've played Widenyo. The protag there was basically a kind princely kid. Didn't expect that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:16:08 2010 No.6197576 >>6197508 well there won't be moments where the protagonist is a serious underdog, by himself taking on and winning against the much stronger foe. all alicesoft leads are always strong as fuck and the games require you to keep them strong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:17:08 2010 No.6197582 >>6197559 I played a little bit. From what I've seen, he seems to be the cookie cutter male protagonist that the main girls want to ride on his dick for no reason. Haven't gotten really far.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:18:08 2010 No.6197585 >>6197566 It would be interesting to see him forced to agree to becoming a DA. Too bad Nasu abandoned Tsukihime for Fate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:19:08 2010 No.6197588 >>6197576 Even in Beat Blades Haruka? (That I keep forgetting to install ... not that it would help as I cannot read moon)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:25:08 2010 No.6197614 >>6197588 haven't played that so i wouldn't know, but does it even have a male protag?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:25:08 2010 No.6197615 >>6197588 Nah. Takamaru is pretty useless. He's more assertive than almost any other protagonists, but even on the demon paths, he's just an evil giggolo with super power granting semen.

Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:26:08 2010 No.6197619

>>6197585
It's quite possible that he has run accross some kind of error in his logic or something on the tsukihime side of things.

We all know that Nasu is rather pretentious when it comes to the world he have come up with.
This may very well be why the remake is seemingly stalled and so on.
I figure he has something he considers a problem and that he has trouble with how to tackle it, in a way satisfactory to him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:27:08 2010 No.6197627 >>6197614 Yes. Takamaru. He fucks the heroines to let them use their super powers. He's happy to do it and all about saving the world, but he's useless in a fight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:50:08 2010 No.6197708 >>6197627 The protag from Beat Angel Escalayer is like that too. They're basically batteries.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:51:08 2010 No.6197710 >>6197708 They're essentially the same game, so it makes sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 22:52:08 2010 No.6197714 I think i would want to be rouga over shiki, shirou or rance. he has it pretty good. Though shirou and shiki have much cooler powers than punching bitches in the face.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 27 23:01:08 2010 No.6197736 is beat blade haruka one of those games where you're supposed to fap to the heroine getting raped and other bad things happening to her?

Anonymous Mon Sep 27 23:05:08 2010 No.6197745

>>6197736
Sort of. If you play the demon routes, then you have to let the heroines lose to the monsters multiple times (gets them raped) which unlocks alternate sexual training scenes where Takamaru is all about the s&m and forcing them to have sex with other men for being failures and not good enough for him.

If you play well though or never do the demon paths, you won't see almost any of that stuff.

Anonymous Mon Sep 27 23:47:08 2010 No.6197894

I empathize more with Type Moon leads since they exhibit actual human decency and characteristics. Alicesoft protags are a little more dense and so exagerrated that they don't feel natural.

I'd probably want to be Shirou the most though.
Well toned body.
Knows how to cook and clean the house.
Good grades in school.
Reality Marble.
High potential for projection magic rape.
The ladies love my earnestness and dedication.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 00:04:08 2010 No.6197943 >>6197894 >shiroufag >claims others are more dense

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Tue Sep 28 00:08:08 2010 No.6197957
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>>6197516
Why is Shirou delusional? And what's so wrong about being "naive"? In real life people, even teachers, keep randomly commenting on how pure I am for no reason at all. I don't get it. What's wrong with being determined to be unerringly kind to people and always being helpful to others? Wish for a better world is wonderful, in my opinion. He is a Champion of Justice and strives to protect the weak, and even if he doesn't succeed in the ultimate goal, what he has accomplished along the way is still something to be tremendously proud of. Shirou as a whole is also definitely more complex a hero than any Alicesoft protagonists that I know of.

Alicesoft has my vote

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 05:26:08 2010 No.6199128 >>6197500 Source of pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 05:33:08 2010 No.6199149 File: 1.01 MB, 682x1023, manshow_063_001.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] even as a boy, shiki is manly

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 05:34:08 2010 No.6199154 File: 960 KB, 682x1023, manshow_063_002.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6199149

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:05:08 2010 No.6199220 >>6199149 >>6199154 Where can I find this manga? I'm just used to millions of doujins, but I'd rather read something more legit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:33:08 2010 No.6199281 >>6199220 amazon? i have no idea where to get the actual translated ones apart from google.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:34:08 2010 No.6199284 Nitroplus >>> them

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:36:08 2010 No.6199287 Jesus, what's with all of these Type-Moon threads lately? An influx of /a/?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:37:08 2010 No.6199288 I wouldn't choose neither of those two, I would go with Eushullys protagonists.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:38:08 2010 No.6199296 File: 1.59 MB, 2425x2023, Untitled.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6199284 Oh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:42:08 2010 No.6199308 >>6199287 >type-moon >/a/ lolno

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 06:55:08 2010 No.6199338 >>6199308 I just went to /a/ and saw a 200+ reply Fate/stay night thread on the first page. Why don't you go back to /a/ and discuss it with your buddies over there?

Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:00:08 2010 No.6199347

The TM fags are pretty annoying but they don't post that much these days so they are okay.

The real cancer in /jp/ these days are the Umineko fangirls/faggots, holy fuck are they annoying and retarded, reading the Umineko threads feels like reading a livejournal about Twilight.

>>	Necrobrotent Tue Sep 28 07:02:08 2010 No.6199356 I wanna be a liarsoft lead.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:07:08 2010 No.6199370 >>6199338 >Stop talking about VNs I don't like guise, srsly ;_;

Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:20:08 2010 No.6199401

>>6199370
It's not that. Actually, I quite like Type-Moon's visual novels.

But they have already been discussed to death. Type-Moon threads always end up being stupid pointless arguments about the same topics, and they get old really quickly. >>6199230 is a perfect example of what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:22:08 2010 No.6199404 Alicesoft leads. There's something to them that I can't put my finger on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:27:08 2010 No.6199411 What the hell? You might as well be comparing characters from Clannad to Maiden Rape Assault's cast.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:30:08 2010 No.6199419 >>6199296 He is basically a Nitroplus character, his awesomeness is only shown in Fate/Zero that was written by Urobuchi

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:33:08 2010 No.6199430 I have a BBA question, before I get to National chapter should I go with Idagawa Ren or Senpuuji Kyouko for my first run?

Anonymous Tue Sep 28 07:38:08 2010 No.6199448

Alicesoft male leads!
Though I don't mind Type Moon main characters, I like both Shiki and Shiro and I love to see how Shiro either grows out of his idealism or matures without giving up his ideals depending on the scenario. I love naive characters but Alicesoft still has my vote.

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