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IKUYO

>> No.6162928

She's so goddamn frustrating to play.

Louie may be slow as shit, but at least he doesn't like taking it in the face like she does.

>> No.6162941

She's the best character in the game for speed runs in dungeons. If you're trying to actually fight with her, you're doing it wrong.

>> No.6162955

>>6162941
If the only thing you want to do is collect chests and avoid

Yes, who am I kidding. That's basically just what you do. Fighting things is counterproductive, for the most part, because nothing good ever drops for the amount of bullshit you have to deal with.

>> No.6162961

>>6162955

See, I knew you would understand where I'm coming from.

>> No.6162965
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6162965

Nagi is the best and is mai waifu.

>> No.6162973

>>6162961
It's not that I don't know, or disagree with you, it's just seriously frustrating.

I don't think Sion-chan is here to post an image which describes how frustrated I am trying to fight with her and enjoy it.

>> No.6162976

>>6162961
You can get 8K crystals from those knight guys. You won't find that in a chest.

>> No.6162977

>>6162965
Indeed she is. She's even ready to stab people when shopping. Haters gonna hate.

>> No.6162990

>>6162973

You should buy an SP-regen ring and use Offshoot if you really want to fight with her.

>> No.6162992
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>>6162973

>> No.6162994

>>6162976

Yeah, just 128k swords.

>> No.6163001

>>6162955

Well, duh. If you wanted to kill things, you'd be using the shota.

>> No.6163003

>>6162976

I see those drop and don't even bother picking them up. I'm just killing the knights for their exp.

>> No.6163008

God Tier:
Elan
Top Tier:
Griff
High Tier:
Nagi
Mid Tier:
Tielle
Low Tier:
Louie
Shit Tier:
Charme

>> No.6163009

>>6162973
Really? I always use Charme. You just gotta have your timing down. Not to mention she destroys bosses in seconds.

>> No.6163013

>>6163009
There's so much shit that will just rape you without mercy should your timing with her incredibly short range be wrong, but I guess you can use her special all the time if that's fine.

>> No.6163032
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6163032

i played it pirated, i liked it and bought it for 15 euro
how many of you paid it?

>> No.6163036

>>6163032
also i love nagi, but i can't get her, if you die in the dungeon, you lose the encounter?

>> No.6163040

>>6163013
I really only worry about Ropers with Charme, everyone else you can just spam the attack button.

>> No.6163043
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>>6163032
haha...

>> No.6163055

>>6163036

Encounters start after the ninth day, and you must encounter her 4 times.

I haven't found dying after her encounter a problem. (I haven't died in the game, to be honest.)

>> No.6163057

>>6163040
Me too. I either have to concentrate more or just use the mirror image. Everything else isn't much of a problem except mushrooms jumping over attacks or bees in a position I can't dash towards.

>> No.6163065

>>6163043
if you find a way to pay it in euros you save around 40 $cents

c'mon, CAPITALISM, HO!

>> No.6163074
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>>6163065
No thank you.
I like it more when it's free

>> No.6163082 [DELETED] 

You're only forced to fight a few things as Charme. Skip everything else unless it's something she rapes like knights. Or give her a few steroids and play her like a better Louie.

>> No.6163088

>better Louie

THAT AIN'T SAYIN' MUCH, NIGGA.

>> No.6163122
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6163122

So I just got this from the last boss rush and it dropped from Charme. I'm assuming the other weapons drop from their respective selves like tiers drops her bow etc.

How do I get Nagi's end game weapon then?

>> No.6163221

>>6163122
That's only the second best dagger. The best one you'll have to get from doing the rank 5 fusion.

As for Nagi's, I'm sure it's from one of the CN bosses but not sure which one exactly.

>> No.6163548

>>6163082
The only thing you really can't dodge all that well when attempting to fight with Charme is ropers, and they don't do all that much damage.

>> No.6163600

There doesn't really seem to be a point in struggling to get the rank 5 weapons unless you can get close to a +15 bonus on it... There's just too little improvement over the Boss Rush weapons. Arma is the obvious exception.

>> No.6163609

>>6163221
Fish-wielding. teleporting, bubble-blowing rat.

>> No.6163666

>best movespeed
>invincibility frames in dash
>clones rape bosses
>fastest attack speed
>detects traps in chests
>parry

/jp/ confirmed for casuals

>> No.6163686

How much easier/harder are dungeons in 1.106? I know some bosses had their HP fixed to proper values. Any other significant changes?

>> No.6163694

All monster levels are scaled properly according to your level.

So afaik not only bosses, but all monsters have more HP and are stronger.

>> No.6163712

>>6163600

On the subject of Arma's top weapon, does the Golden Horn needed still drop from the Lapis bossrush? The guide site says it does, but I've been farming there for quite a while with no luck. I don't have to go through farming the Crystal rush again, do I?

>> No.6163728

>>6163712

If it's not dropping, try running with another character, or yes, try the CN boss rush. (Save pre rush and just keep reloading when it doesn't drop.)

>> No.6163736

>>6163728
Characters affect drop rates?!

>> No.6163744

what are you talking about. I have had no trouble hitting or killing anything with Charme. If I wanted to use someone that can't hit anything then I'd use Griff

>> No.6163747

>>6163744
What.
Don't you mean Elan?

>> No.6163759

I use Tielle, she's a rape machine.
I still don't have Griff and Arma anyway.

>> No.6163768

And I have a terrible luck about drop...

>> No.6163780

Can I play this on my laptop using a touchpad, or do I need a mouse/gamepad to really play?

>> No.6163784

>>6163780
You could play it on a laptop with no touchpad. Like many doujin games, it doesn't use the mouse at all.

>> No.6163789

>>6163784
You don't need any mouse.
And you can perfectly well play with just keyboard, so yes you can play with your laptop.

>> No.6163790

>>6163784
Cool
But here's the killer: do I have to install Steam to play it legally?

>> No.6163792

>>6163790
No, you can buy it from other site such as [citation required]

>> No.6163794

>>6163790
No it's to be had without DRM as a purchase elsewhere.

>> No.6163799

>>6163790
You have two other options: Impulse and GamersGate

>> No.6164056
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6164056

I don't care what any of you guys say.

Charme is love.

>> No.6164066

>>6164056

She's always drunk, too.

>> No.6164082

For fuck's sake, six hours and counting and still no horn. How fucking low is the drop chance?

>> No.6164092

>>6164082

I'm guessing ~10% if you've been at it this long with no results.

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>>6164066
I'd get drunk with her, if you know what I mean.

>> No.6164104

>>6164101

I would too, but she's only interested in bringing Recette home. Maybe I can watch, though. ;_;

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6164154

Just so you know, her name is pronounced "sharm," not "charm" like some non-French speakers would believe.

Even the creators confirmed the pronunciation in the kana (シャルム). So there you go.

>> No.6164198

>It's implied that Charme is a noble or someone of high society, when Nagi notices the way she eats.

Probably just hates her parents.

>> No.6164203

>>6164198
She's the princess, I thought this was obvious.

>> No.6164207
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6164207

I'm waiting for a freeplay patch to come out so I don't have to bother with repayments, say what you will but that just took the fun out of the game for me.

>> No.6164212

>>6164207
What are you smoking, there's already a game mode where you don't have to pay back any debt.

>> No.6164221

>>6164212
Hell, you can just eat a loop or two to get the stuff done.
If you didn't know this, when you fail to pay your debt, you wake up on day 2 with all your items and experience. Even adventurer experience.

>> No.6164227

>>6164212
What? Where? How?

>> No.6164229

Wow, customer satisfaction carries over on a New Game +. You can beat the game in the first week.

>> No.6164236

>>6164227
You onlock it when you finish the game.

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>>6164236
I can't get past the 3rd week...

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>>6164056
>>6164104

Charme is my hero

>> No.6164240

>>6164238
>>6164221
Just eat a fucking loop instead of giving up.

>> No.6164339

Okay, fuck the encyclopedia. The rarity of this goddamn horn passes from "tedious", all the way through "ridiculous" and settles firmly into "who the fuck though thought this could possibly be a good idea". I've done several hundred rushes without seeing a single one, and it's just leaving a bad taste in my mouth after an otherwise fun game.

>> No.6164368

>>6164154

I pronounced it like "char-mee"

>> No.6164401

Charme is my favorite as far as actually doing shit and not taking fucking forever about it goes. The shota is cool, but he's made of toilet paper and takes forever to get anywhere and the elf's charge sound effect annoys the living shit out of me. Haven't yet unlocked the demon nigger.

Also, could >>6163666
explain to me how to do her parry in a slow manner that can be understood by both toddlers and old people? I can't seem to do it except on accident

>> No.6164417

gotta press the direction button into the enemy's attack at the right time.

>> No.6164422

Which kind of retards would pay for a game anyway? A censored game at that.

>> No.6164437

>can't pay back the debt

Simple instructions:

1: Invest as much as possible up to the point of filling your shelves, but no more.

2: Make 2 adventures and precisely 2, both as early as the game will let you. Get free items to jump-start your assets, then adventure no more. Ignore ingredients, fill your bag with the most expensive items you can take home.

3: Price goods at around 110%, you want to never have to haggle so you will get more EXP and your merchant level will raise faster - this unlocks better goods for bigger profits.

4: Don't waste any time, time is money. Keep your store open as much as you can.

5: Don't buy anything you don't expect to sell ASAP. Things like vending machines and HP boosts can come after you've cleared the story for your first time.

If you do all this, clearing the game shouldn't be too hard. Save every day, reload if bad luck leaves you with less money than you were expecting to get.

>> No.6164456 [DELETED] 

>>6164437
You're making it sound harder than it is. There's plenty of room to experiment with prices and do other things if you figure out how to level and get customers to come in.

>> No.6164461

>>6164437
Except I'd pretty much do the opposite of everything here. Dungeon crawling gets you more money than anything early on, as long as you don't die. 110% is a copout, after some time you will pretty much be able to estimate what level they will buy at. Sounds like what you need is just one good red item period.

>> No.6164472

>>6164422
>a censored game

... What?

>> No.6164480

>>6164422
Uhh... excuse me?

>> No.6164485

>>6164456
>You're making it sound harder than it is.
Right, this is intended for people who complain that they can't keep up with the payments on their first loop.

>>6164461
>Dungeon crawling gets you more money than anything early on
Yeah, early on. Once you get a good merchant level you'll make far more money from selling items in your first loop, and keeping your shop open is how you raise your merchant level. A little bit of adventuring will supplement your starting assets, a lot of adventuring will stunt your EXP growth and keep you from reaping the big profits in the late weeks.

>After some time you will pretty much be able to estimate what level they will buy at.
The point is to try to never haggle with customers because you get less EXP that way. You want to level up as quickly as possible in your first loop so you can unlock the better items, that's how you make the 500k payment at the end.

>Sounds like what you need is just one good red item period.
I'm already through my first loop, and I got through it just fine without the good luck of having any good reds to take advantage of. If you can sell a big load of armor at double price then you're good to go, but that plan is for people who have trouble and bad luck so they can reach newgame+ without having to eat a loop.

>> No.6164496

>>6164485
So far you seem to be the only one talking about eating loops. Nobody else has any trouble with that.

If you don't come back from an amber garden run with at least 100k+ in stuff you're doing something wrong. Anyway there's a lot of freedom in the game. You could go adventuring every day or never step into amber garden and still make way more than required.

>> No.6164497

>>6164485
I'm not exactly sure why some guys find it hard to pay that 500k payment. I started that final week with 150k remainder from the payment before that, and I was still able to scrape by. I may have been lucky with them item reds, but still... and I was regularly combing dungeons for loot. Like, once a day, every other day, or when I don't have any orders on my plate.

...well, I barely got by that 500k, yeah. I only had 1k pix after the deal was done.

>> No.6164499

>>6164472
>>6164480
They censored some equipment names so there wouldn't be "loli" in it. But then again SA-fags are known for hating on loli, so it's understandable they'd remove the word even when gothic lolita isn't even actually related to loli.

>> No.6164502

>>6164499
...that's it? You're being anal on fucking equipment names?

Oh, right. /jp/. Yeah. This is the norm here, I forgot.

>> No.6164504

>>6164502
Gtfo back to SA if you aren't happy about it. You moralistic retards aren't welcome in /jp/.

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>>6164499
Just what you'd expect of a translator who posted a series of reviews about how awful Nanoha's fanservice is and how many times he puked per episode.

>> No.6164506

>>6164504
I don't get how moralistic connects to what I posted, but alright. Whatever floats your boat, anon.

>> No.6164511

>>6164506
You are most likely coming from SA.

>> No.6164524

>>6164505
Now I feel even more better about pirating their game. I hope they end up like Recette and be unable to pay up their debts.

>> No.6164544

>>6164505
I actually failed to notice the fanservice in Nanoha until someone pointed it out to me.

>> No.6164557

I am never amazed buy how fucking retarded some of you dumb fuckers are.

>> No.6164601

>>6164557
> I am never amazed buy how fucking retarded some of you dumb fuckers are.

>> No.6164638

>>6164557
>I am never amazed buy how fucking retarded some of you dumb fuckers are.
Coming from you it sounds like a compliment. At least we manage to make understandable sentences in correct English.

>> No.6164641

>>6164638
>>6164557
samefag

>> No.6164650

>>6164641
You did notice I was making fun of this SA scumbag, right?

>> No.6164671

>>6164641
>>6164650
When will you learn to at least use nokosage with your trolling?

>> No.6164713

>>6164671
How about you shut the fuck up. You don't belong on /jp/.

>> No.6166028

I just sold Charme the Sailor Suit.

Excuse me while I go HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGG.

>> No.6166047 [DELETED] 

For a while, Charme bought the sailor suit every time I had it in stock.

>> No.6166049

>>6166028

You're excu- HNNNNNNNNNGH

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WHAT IS THIS

I MUST KNOW MORE ABOUT IT

>> No.6166409

>>6166028
>>6166047

Yeah. It's too bad her sprite doesn't change, that would have been neato.

>> No.6166549

why i find only few images on the internet? pixiv doesn't help either, (i use recettear as tag, since wiki says so) or may someone give me the correct katakana translitteration?

>> No.6167967

>>6166347
Needs more Arma

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6168791

I have every reason in the world to hate this scheming bitch. But I can't. I just can't.

>> No.6168970

>>6168791
I'd let her scam the clothes off my back, if ya know what I mean.

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