/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

shmup thread?
shmup thread!

Try not to 'touhou' this up, guys. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

I was surprised by the quality of the patterns in some Iphone bullet hell game I found recently, ISUD.

[Anonymous No.]

Then I'll just post Clean Asia, like I always do when talking about non-Touhou shmups.

[Anonymous No.]

I you want a shmup thread, why would you post it on /jp/?

We have a full board dedicated to video games, and a full board dedicated to touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>shmup thread?
>shmup thread!
at least try to hide the fact that you're fresh from /b/.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay, here it is, one of the greatest free shooters ever out of all free shoooters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162703
It's really more like a board dedicated to 2D games and one dedicated to 3D games.

[Anonymous No.]

Clean Asia! is awesome.

But, um. Touhou is a solid series as well, just with a different appeal than CAVE shooters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162719
Don't be ridiculous. There are regular shmup threads on /v/ and side-scrollers enjoy great popularity there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162727
I have trouble believing they play anything other than Team Fortress 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162732
Hey. Team Fortress 2 used to be a great game. We'll have none of your superior attitude here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162737
By "we," you mean /v/, right?

[Anonymous No.]

go back to /v/
as you can see
/jp/ only cares for touhou's character aspect
rather than their shmup gameplay in that respect

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162753
I am a staunch believer that /v/ and /jp/ can be united under one banner, that of being dedicated to things that other people don't care about.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ used to have shmup general threads. Not so much anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162767
What does /v/ post about that people don't care about? Video games are played by everyone nowadays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162727
OP here. Theres some people im the one who makes them!

>>6162703
Because no one is really interested in shmups on /v/. They're into "FPS shootan" shit

>also I was posting a lot of shmup threads and /v/ told me to make one on /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162859
>also I was posting a lot of shmup threads and /v/ told me to make one on /jp/
Unless you started it with a Touhou image, which judging by your post I would imagine not, I think you're either lying or getting really bent up about one or two posts. There are regular shmup threads on /v/, and in general they don't stray into Touhou much if at all.
This is coming from a /v/ regular who only sometimes comes to /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

I've seen one or two shmup threads on /v/ reaching the bump limit but they were full with whining about shmups being bullshit/too hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162878
Also a /v/ regular. I never start with anything but an image of a man's shmup/bullet hell.But every time I start a shmup thread they always turn into a touhou thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162890
90% of threads on /v/ are filled with whining and faggotry, but that doesn't mean there aren't good threads despite that. Keep trying, and keep looking. There are good shmup threads on /v/, this I promise you.

Sometimes even without that WT douche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162896
Out of the probably five-six or so shmup threads I've followed in the past couple of weeks, none of them were taken over by Touhou.
There was some Touhou discussion in them (some of it started by me), but you'll have to accept that. Touhou is a shmup, after all.
But some does not mean all, by a long shot - I'd say they made up less than 10% of the games discussed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162901
WT Shmups? Yeah, he's a bit pretentious. Whats his problem?

[Anonymous No.]

W.T. Shmups is a bit smug, yeah, but not a bad guy, from what I've seen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162949
>a bit
Ha.

[Anonymous No.]

ALERT! This thread does not meet the minimum Touhou threshold required by /jp/. Activating the autonomous Master Spark system.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162968
nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163014
Please, just post this on /v/. I'll even help get the thread off the ground if you don't mind my avatarfaggotry. You're not going to get anywhere with a shmup thread here, especially if you say no-Touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162968
OH GOD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163025
/jp/ likes non-Touhou shmups, doesn't it? I mean, if you like Touhou, you like shmups.


...unless...you're one of the dreaded secondaries.

Seriously, though, I usually see shmup threads do pretty well here. I wonder why this one isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163031

>...unless...you're one of the dreaded secondaries.

That's the 90% of /jp/ for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163031
Well, I suppose I should clarify.
You're not going to get anywhere with a shmup thread that starts with
>shmup thread?
>shmup thread!

>Try not to 'touhou' this up, guys. Thanks.

On the scale of thread-starters, that's pretty near the troll end of terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163039
Despite that, though, this thread is remarkably civil. Off-topic, naturally, but calm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163042

That's because you are used to /v/'s "rational" way of expressing themselves.

This is a pretty civilized board. That is, if you know how to handle it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163051
Yeah, /v/ can get rather up in arms sometimes, can't it? But that's part of its, er, charm...

But yeah, I always enjoy a shmup thread on /v/, can't say I've seen any on /jp/ in the lesser time I've been here.
In fact, there was a pretty good one earlier today, though it went somewhat slowly and died unfortunately quickly. But it was a bit too early in the day.

[Anonymous No.]

Bumping this because Ive been looking for non-touhou games to play.

Ive been playing exCeed 2nd Vampire lately, it isnt bad, but I cant really get used to the blue / red thing. I heard there was an exCeed 3rd that came out, anyone try it or able to recommend it or not?

Also, HELLSINKER, how the hell does that game work? Its not often I have a hard time getting past level 1.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is proof how shitty /jp/ is nowadays. We used to have a lot of shmup threads without any whining or bitching, but now it seems like every person here is a secondary meme-spewing Touhou fag.

[Anonymous No.]

Let's see:
Fraxy
Warning Forever
Genetos
Uwabami Breakers
Xop Black
Hydorah

Any other free ones?

[Anonymous No.]

Go play Mars Matrix.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163679
MAME shmup roms:
http://www.mediafire.com/?70m1k07r8r913yh
http://www.mediafire.com/?ysndkm1w0gueyfr
http://www.mediafire.com/?legab1f1crd38c9
http://www.mediafire.com/?sgith34d5dbagix
http://www.mediafire.com/?taiw791u9h55814

Emulator:
http://wolfmame.marpirc.net/wolfmameplus-099-vc.exe

[Anonymous No.]

I've been trying to 1cc Esp Ra De on MAME but I'm still rally bad at it even though it's seemingly not that hard until the end. Maybe if I could get a hang of where my damn hitbox is I'd do better but I'm used to spaceships and certain little girls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163715

Your shitposting is proof of how shitty /jp/ is nowadays.

You are as bad as the secondaryfags.

[Anonymous No.]

I cant finish dodonpachi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163763
Stop replying to trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163679
I liked eXceed 2 more than 3, but maybe that's just me.

And yeah, Hellsinker... Well, I can get to stage 2 without continuing, at the least. That game seems like it would be really fun if I could get a good grasp on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163772

Fuck up, cunt

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVKTpVVpJok&feature=related

prettiest STG that no one played

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162705
the greatest of all the free shooters eh? Looks like a virus when I run it. Doesn't open or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163788
What's that ability that lets them stream through bullets all quick like? Neat looking game download where

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163788
I was actually playing this earlier today. Without rekeybinding your keyboard will ghost all to hell and back, though.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a 360 and Ketsui on their way to me right now.

Feels pretty good.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone play Hitogata Happa? I went on a binge with that game earlier this year. It's actually not as hard as it seems and I might say it's a little unbalanced, but I just love all the weird mechanics so much it's still one of my favorite PC STGs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163945
Oh, you're invincible for a moment when you dash. It's necessary. You can also damage enemies that way.

You can constant dash to attack, but you're only invincible for the first, then the dash bard goes down and doesn't refill until you stop dashing. After that, you can do an invincible dash again.

Also here
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ba89293275e8bbf3e62ea590dc5e5dbbd34c7e389f3df1b1ce018c8114394287

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163972
I actually played with a gamepad because of the controls. Bad habits carried over into touhou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164015
I tried it and while I loved the style and everything I didn't like how I had to puzzle out how to beat the bosses in time. I might give it another shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164058

Yeah, the first level is always a crapshoot. You need to use at least three suicide bombs on the boss to beat it in time, and it's way too easy to fail. After that level you don't really need to suicide bomb at all, since you can buy more characters that don't suck.

I made a video of the first level on medium difficulty. I died once at the end trying to finish the boss with a bomb, otherwise it's a pretty good run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g47lKWTTtdM

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164073
Oh thanks I didn't understand the suicide bombing thing, apparently. Also your video sucks in like 7 different ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164122

Yeah, I know it sucks. It's the only game video I ever recorded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164142

And i guess I kind of overstepped my bounds adding my own soundtrack, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163987

It should feel good. Ketsui is fucking awesome. And DFK, Radirgy Noa and Bullet Soul later this year as well!

Fuck off to the idiots who this shmups are /v/ material. Obviously and blatantly newfriends.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone play Soldner X? It's probably the worse shmup I've ever played.

[Anonymous No.]

So, Cho Aniki's getting a re-release on PS3. Count me impressed, never expected them to do that.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>6164574

it's already on the PS3 store.

Should I buy it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163715
More like now it seems everyone is determined to push their opinions on everyone. Instead of discussion, we discuss whether we should discuss the things that thread was meant to discuss. Japanese games, especially Japanese doujin games are definitely /jp/ material, despite the stupid name change "Otaku Culture"

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164577
No.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162695

It is quite visually impressive. rRootage Online (along with the CAVE ports and SI:IG) games are my favorites on iPhone. Been playing the shit out of rRootage lately.

Space Invaders Infinity Gene and KOF SkyStage are out on XBLA and PSN now as well. SI is really awesome! Can't get into KOF SS at this point.

Radirgy Noa Massive next month should be a lot of fun too.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I stop being shit at Suguri?

[Van_Artic No.]

deathsmiles is coming out on europe

i couldn't be any happier

[Anonymous No.]

I'm still trying to 1CC Ikaruga... in easy mode no less. I'm having plenty of trouble already with the other modes.

Anyway, I was interested in playing this Treasure homage shooter called Razor2 on Steam, done by some of my countrymen.

The gameplay is pretty bland and so is the rest of the game, and I endeded up giving up on the idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164826
Its great. Its been out in 'merica for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck, Salamander 2 is bullshit. It's got all the impossible to recover from Gradius, but now with rank which means you can't even stay alive before the game starts being ridiculous at you.
At least in Gradius I could get some capsules and stop moving at the slowest speed imaginable after I die, in Salamander the game just laughs at me and refuses to drop any. Shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Just downloaded the demo for KOF Sky Stage. Should be good.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164979
Just be prepared for some horrible VA if its the American version

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165060
>its a shmup
>I don't give a fuck about the voices, I care about the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165065
But if you have terrible voice samples playing everywhere it might annoy you and decrease the enjoyment you have with the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165065
Who are you quoting?

Retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165085
What are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165748
He's calling you a retard for misusing the quote function.

[Anonymous No.]

Could you people stop doing that? I mean the "x thread? x thread." thing. Just say you are starting x thread don't try to make it sound cool or whatever you're using this form of speech for.
It's just annoying. And silly.

[Anonymous No.]

/v/ actually has great shooter threads.

[Anonymous No.]

Genetos: One of the greatest freeware SHMUP games, in my opinion. The game starts you off in a "space invaders" type setting, and then transforms you and your weapons/sub weapons through shooters of the 80's and 90's until you reach modern day. Also it's probably the most emotional shooter I've ever played. Might be too easy on anything lower than hard if you're good at SHMUPS.
http://www.tatsuya-koyama.com/software/wg002_genetos_eng.html

[Anonymous No.]

>SHMUP games

its shmup not Shmup or SHMUP

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165799
Who gives a shit? You just come off as pretentious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165799
Shoot 'em up -> Shmup

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165769
>>6165799
Go bitch about something worthwhile, you nitpicky fuck(s).

>>6164819
rrootage brofist. But on PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165861
>>6165861
>pretentious.
You will find it alot in fans of this genre you are obviously new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165922
That doesn't make it anything more than worthless hot air.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165944
That goes around alot

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165922
No, FPS gamers are new. Shmup players have been around forever.

[Anonymous No.]

I game I am quite enjoying is eXceed3rd-JADE PENETRATE-BLACK PACKAGE which was released in C77. I downloaded it recently because I quite enjoyed the soundtrack (symph metal). It's like touhou in the sense that it is shump with girls but it is by no means a direct rip off. It's very enjoyable, difficult-ish but still easy (I have yet to 1cc it but I haven't been playing it as intently as I did when I first started playing touhou) and a bit short; there is an extra level but I haven't unlocked it and there is only one playable character.

Here's some footage of the first level: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An0WM-CRC_8
Here's a review of it:
http://indieanddoujingamer.blogspot.com/2010/05/shmup-review-exceed-3rd-jade-penetrate.html
Apparently some famous voice actresses are in it, they are listed here:
http://panchira.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/exceed3rd-jade-penetrate-black-package/

The download link for the game and previous games by the same company is here (it's RS but I have no other links):
http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108200&p=1905305#post1905305

Sorry for the tiny image.

[Anonymous No.]

There was one good shmup thread on /v/ on the weekend and one idiotic thread where an RTS guy was saying he could clear DDP Daioujou incl. Hibachi easily, all he had to do was play it once or twice to "memorise" it. Other than that it is usually "fuck off with your weeaboo shit." The shmup threads here have usually been pretty good, although very slow moving sometimes.

Now here are some interesting videos;

RSG 360 Trailer-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfakyXCo_mY

DDP DFK at TGS. Second half is Arrange A. Reminds me of DOJ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPWCvVc9gtU

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163679
eXceed 3rd is a must-play. It's closer to Touhou than Cave though, and many of the attacks on Hard are pretty tough.

>>6166748
Man I didn't know they showed it at TGS. The Arrange A shot type is fucking beautiful !

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163902
Clean Asia! doesn't run on Vista (and probably 7) unless you convert the executable with a Game Maker converter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164819

You just reminded me of how much I miss playing Milestone Shooting Collection. I bought the game since my roomy had a Wii, and now that her left, I can't play it anymore.

I was close to getting a 2 billion score in Karous, and I was just starting to get the hang of Radirgy.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking of freeware shmups, I'm surprised that No one's even mentioned x.x's games (Blue Wish Resurrection, Eden's Aegis). Although they're not very pretty, they play solidly. Hell, Blue wish was my favorite freeware game period for a while.

...Until I played Cho-Ren-Sha 64k

[Anonymous No.]

>>6167539

Yeah BWR+ is a solid shmup. Really nice and dense patterns. My buddy 1CC'd it the other day.

>>6167509

Yeah the Milestone collection was awesome. Radirgy Noa is on Wii too, but the 360 version looks really good. Has these features..

- The 360 version is HD.
- 5 different game modes.
- Additional "eye catch" periods, as seen in anime.
- Additional "eye catch" gallery.

Modes are:

Arcade: Faithful port of Noah. Includes 9 stages.
Expand: Arrange mode, doesn't unlock immediately and requires certain conditions to be met beforehand.
Massive: Caravan mode, includes stages exclusively made for the 360 port.
Death: Fixed screen, score attack contest.
Classic: Includes a remixed version of the original Radirgy game, 5 stages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6167599

>Arcade: Faithful port of Noah. Includes 9 stages.
>Expand: Arrange mode, doesn't unlock immediately and requires certain conditions to be met beforehand.
>Massive: Caravan mode, includes stages exclusively made for the 360 port.
>Death: Fixed screen, score attack contest.
>Classic: Includes a remixed version of the original Radirgy game, 5 stages.

Oh Shi-! This is one of the few times I've regretted not investing in a current gen console.

[Vector !NEy29ODpvs No.]

If you wanna play Hellsinker, you should read this.

http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=26334

[Anonymous No.]

>>6167599
Welp, time to fix that 360.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6167702

Maybe some more inspiration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RNpqy2rmOM

Bullet Soul being played at TGS. Looks pretty interesting. Have a copy pre-ordered.

I'm annoyed with myself though. Bought nearly all the 360 shmups now, but there is so much to choose from I just am not disciplined enough to stick to one. So I end up sucking at most of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6163722
abstract:
parsec47
rr
sdmkun [it's to parsec47 what is StB to casual touhou]

more concrete:
soeur [quite pretty characters, but shitty mouse control. Also it has super easy modo where you'll get 16 lives].

[Anonymous No.]

>>6162949
>>6162954
He doesn't even fucking play the games, just talks about them to look cool.

[Anonymous No.]

The donpachi series is retarded, how can anyone like that shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6167962

0/10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6164045
I tried downloading that, but it isnt opening for me. I converted all three files to .rar files, but it still isnt opening.

Anyone got an alternate download? This game looks fantastic and I would love to play it.

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6167962
The touhou series is retarded, how can anyone like that shit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6167962
>>6168302

Well, I'm glad that's out of our systems.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys. Can we -please- stop saying "shmup"? Please start calling them shooters, shooting games, or STGs.

Thanks.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp No.]

"Shoot 'em ups aren't as big as they used to be, although they still have a hardcore following among masochistic maniacs who actively enjoy dipping into titles like "Perfect Cherry Blossom", which sort of resembles a firework display being sick."-BBC

[Anonymous No.]

>>6168355

What's wrong with shmup? It's a commonly used term for this type of game, just as much as STG, so why get worked up over it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6168449
Because it sounds retarded as fuck, to such an extent that it's annoying to even read.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6165781

Trying this out now. Preparing for some mad nostalgia. Cheers for the link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6168468
Yeah every time I read it I think about how awkward it is to say and get mad. A really tiny bit mad.

[Anonymous No.]

Shump sounds like a word to describe a turd that is not firm but not quite lose enough to be diarrhea.

[Anonymous No.]

"Shmup" is perfectly fine. It's leagues better than "STG". "Shoo Ting Game"? Really? Are you fucking twelve?

"Shooters" and "shooting games" have too much overlap with FPS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6168449
Saying Shmup instead of Shoot 'em up is like saying U instead of You. It's actually even worse because you're abbreviating something that already had an abbreviation in it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169530
>NO.

There are more shooters than FPS(and STG), and if shooter makes you think FPS, then you are the one with the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread:

>shmups doesn't on /jp/!!!
>shmup is stupid word!!!

GO PLAY MARS MATRIX

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169530
you can say "STG" clearly. bang bang bang. there is no way you are getting past the word "Shmup" without repeating it two or three times to confirm you are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169544
The average (non-gamer) person's gaming knowledge is limited. FPSs have more exposure, so when the average joe hears "shooter" that's what he thinks of.

>>6169551
"Ess Tee Jee" versus "Shmup". Three syllables versus one. Which is easier to say?

[Anonymous No.]

You guys...

You know, all that time you've been pointlessly arguing about how they should be called, you could have cleared a couple of stages or something instead.

As far as I'm concerned, all these names are equally legit. There is no point in trying to establish only one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169560
see
>>6169542
Get out with your stupid chatspeak-like abbreviations.

[Anonymous No.]

Shmup is how the West refers to them, and STG is how the East refers to them. I don't care how they're pronounced or any other bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169563
>There is no point in trying to establish only one of them.

This is /jp/. We play /jp/ games here. Japan uses STG, so STG is the proper term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169542
Abbreviations are not inherently evil, you retarded fuckwad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169560
"shmup" is sounds like you tripped over a word. "Ess Tee Gee" sounds like an abbreviation for something. When I say "Ess Tee Gee" you know I meant to say "Ess Tee Gee" and that I am talking about STGs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169590
If you're talking to someone who knows about 2D scrolling shooting games, they will know what you are talking about regardless of whether you use "shmup" or "STG".

If you're talking to someone who DOESN'T know about them, then they will be equally confused regardless of which term you use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169560
I do not care if non-shooters are left out of the conversation; they have nothing of value to say.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169578
Yes they are. That is why children are hated. Type out those words in full and stop using w/ and ur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169604
If you are talking to a TOP SHOOTER they are most likely Japanese. Japanese use the term "STG". STG is the correct answer.
Why would I talk to someone that does not play shooting games about STGs? I am not trying to make friends or educate people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169614
Pointless abbreviations that achieve nothing are bad. Abbreviating names is perfectly fine. Do you complain about people playing "RPGs" instead of "Role-Playing Games"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169628
the correct term is "Role Play Em'Ups", or "rpmups".

[Anonymous No.]

fucking 8 stages

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169628
>Do you complain about people playing "RPGs"

Yes because RPGs suck and rarely let you play a role.

[Anonymous No.]

Raiden Fighters masterrace

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169650
I love that game so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169641
do not try to change the subject. keep fighting until you burn up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169650

Classic. Anyone who doesn't own the RF Aces collection should be shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169662
Its coming to PAL now in October and so is Death Smiles,Raiden IV,Otomedius Excellent are confirmed for PAL too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169664

Ah, very good. I hadn't heard about Raiden IV!

Not so sure I am looking forward to Otomedius E. I got Otomedius G a couple of weeks ago, it is really underwhelming for me. Very boring. But, still great news PAL is getting some shmups finally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169679
Senko Ronde goes for like 5 euros in every bargain bin

definetly worth it

too bad the cover art was such a piece of shit compared to the awesome jap one

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169684

Yeah that artwork is really shit. I have the j version of SNR and Duo. Pretty fun games! Its a shame that the localisation did not do so well.

Senko no Ronde (WarTech..?) goes for insanely cheap on ebay as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169690
>Its a shame that the localisation did not do so well.
Ubisofts marketing at its finest

[Anonymous No.]

I hope Death Smiles PAL gets the original cover art.

[Anonymous No.]

>implying the patch will ever arrive

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169701

Haha, yeah. Where is this update from Mihara that was supposed to be this weekend? I have seen nothing of it.

As for DeathSmiles, is it a total PAL release or just Europe? I am in Australia see (but I have the JP version). Our government will probably not classify it because of that "bath" scene, uhhhhg.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169664
and maybe even DoDon Pachi Ressurection for 360

http://twitter.com/risingstargames

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169695
>>6169664

Deathsmiles PAL? They're actually releasing it over here? Well that's made my day a little brighter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169709
Wow would not suprise me if this is actually happens

PAL is a retarded market where nothing makes sense.

>>6169706
I think its just mainland europe especially after the new ridiculous australian laws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169684
>Senko Ronde

It's Senko no Ronde, dammit. Why are all you faggots so fucking useless?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169709

That would be great. I am also seriously hoping for Black Label DLC. I'm sure most have seen it, but amazing PV..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOL5WUfwmh8

If they sell well, who knows maybe Rising Star will even bring over Muchi Muchi Pork + Pink Sweets, aha!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169716
>PAL is a retarded market where nothing makes sense.

Particularly when everything is in 720p these days and the whole PAL/NTSC dichotomy is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169725
But thats what it says on the cover...

Just Wartech:SENKO RONDE

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169733
PAL NTSC thing is irrelevant these days

both video systems are no longer in use but they serve as a region protection these days

>>6169709
>Ressurection
I really hate the name Resurrection why cant we just call it DoDonPachi Dai-Fukkatsu like we have been calling it for 2 years already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169735
Translator's note: の means no.

I will agree that it's pretty weird of them to leave part of the name in Japanese though.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iWWf6KqIQw

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169738
thats the name I see for the iphone version, thats why I called it that, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

I hope PRO GEAR,ESPRADE,DoDonPachi Campaign Version reached XBLA one day

And that 8ing would do the same for all their Raizing games.


Who has the rights to PSIKYOs games anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169751
Daifukkatsu basically translates to Resurrection. I prefer Daifukkatsu as well as others, but meh.

[Anonymous No.]

>You will never play Mars Matrix in full HD graphics


Feels bad man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169753

Oh god, a compilation of Battle Garegga, Armed Police Batrider and Battle Bakraid would be heaven. I hope for this a LOT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169760
Dont forget about Dimahoo

[Anonymous No.]

>playing shooters on something other then a 4:3 CRT

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169758
Shouldn't you have gotten used to Mars Matrix looking like shit by now? I sure have. It's just the way things are meant to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169770
Mars Matrix could use a rearranged soundtrack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169775
The boss music is pretty good. First level, too. The rest, yeah, not so much.

Damn, now I wanna play that game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169778
The guy that did the stage 2 song must have been high or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169763

Eheh, just played a credit on shmupmame after you posted this. 1.2~ mil. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

This shit would sell like hotcakes on PSN/XBLA

[Van_Artic No.]

don't forget Guwange for XBLA, still no release date, but it's between this and the next month

[Anonymous No.]

WHAT? NEW YORK WENT SILENT??

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169795
It should have been out like 2 months ago.

Dangun Feveron will reach XBLA too.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a highres scan of the akai katana poster?

[Anonymous No.]

Touch & Death!!

New video from Masa KING showing how to get into the hidden loop in DoDonPachi Daifukkatsu, iPhone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6EjhZZDJy4

[Anonymous No.]

Why is the fleet in orbit instead of helping meeeee. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169764
>>playing shooters on something other then a 4:3 CRT
I play them on my 16:10 IPS LCD in tate with correct aspect ratio.
Looks good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169917
>LCD
>Shit colours
>Display lag

Enjoy

[Anonymous No.]

sonce were kinda on the subject, are there any good guides on making your own mame arcade machine?

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6169695
well if it's the same as the US release, don't fucking buy it because it's garbage anyway. buy a jap console, buy the real version of the game. you'll thank me later.

anyway guys, i'm off to go play one of my favorite fpmups, halo reach. have fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169949
>implying IPS monitors have shit colors
>implying 2209WA has noticable input lag (less than 1 frame)
Enjoy your crappy poorfag LCD.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169970
I play Mushihime Futari and 1cc'd maniac mode on my gangsta Westinghouse LCD.

Lag ain't shit.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't like calling shmups STG because that rhymes with STD.

[Anonymous No.]

I played Chou aniki zero on PSP and died at the last level. This game is needlessly long, it's a pain to redo everything from the beginning each time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169917
> 16:10 IPS LCD in tate with correct aspect ratio.
>16:10 IPS LCD in tate with correct aspect ratio.
>4:3 games to 16:10 correct aspect ratio
>Black Borders
Its like I am really playing badly optimised PAL 50hz versions

[Anonymous No.]

>>6170606
You're saying that as if it makes a difference whether or not there is a black area on the top and the bottom of the screen while you're engrossed in the game.
Badly ported PAL games are a totally different league. They suffer from distortion (because now the picture isn't 4:3 anymore) as well as frame-rate issues. And in the worst case the games run slower.

Apples and oranges.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6170626
Black borders look like shit and the games are made for CRTs with scanlines

[Anonymous No.]

Radiant Silvergun coming to XBLA

I am happy <3

[Anonymous No.]

>>6170729
Brace for dumbasses that dont realise that Ikaruga is the spiritual sequel to Radiant Silvergun not the otherway around

[Anonymous No.]

>>6170781
>Spiritual
Tell that to the stonelike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6170718
Black borders don't look like anything because they're black. That's like complaining about the brezel around your monitor.

The part about the scanlines on a CRT is partly true and I play some old shmups on my old TV (my mom once complained that I put it sideways) and it does look excellent. However, on a PC and newer consoles the games run at a higher resolution or include a HD mode which makes this point moot.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, this legendary monitor is the best CRT ever made and guess what?
It's 16:10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6170878
Hey, that's my monitor. Awesome, I bought it for 80 bucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6170897
I'm envious.
But it's got to be a bitch to turn this beast sideways for playing shmups.

[Anonymous No.]

OP here. Wow, this thing lasted quite a while. ABout to play some Batrider now.

[Anonymous No.]

"According to Mihara's latest blog post, he tested the patch, and all the freeze problems have been fixed. Gamer score works (he got up to 850 achievement points in his test). Only problem now is a small glitch where the sound drops out on the stage 3 boss. Other than that, it works perfectly. He says he heaved a great sigh of relief, and he seems pretty excited about it.

He says the patch should be given the "all OK" approval by next weekend." EOJ, regarding Mihara's blog about DDP DOJ BLEX 360 patch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6171457
So.. it's finally coming?
I almost can't believe it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6171605

Haha, yeah. I'll believe it once it is patched, but fuck I hope it is this weekend.

[Anonymous No.]

no Siter Skain games in this thread? Reflex, Kamui and Alltynex (and Alltynex second) are fucking awesome.

some cool games by other doujin circles would be Blue Sabers: operaton orbital hammer, ether vapor,baroque shooting, armed seven, chorensha 68k, radio zonde (predecessor to Hellsinker) and varia. also can't forget warning forever. that is cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169530
shmups were called shooters long before the fps ever existed. i actually prefer the term "shooter" as opposed to shmup.

[Anonymous No.]

Zillion Beatz is a good doujin shmup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVWDnb0HYhA

[Anonymous No.]

>>6172029
The problem is that "shooter" is easily conflated with the more popular genre, and if you add "scrolling shooter" or "space shooter" it's strange when talking about games that don't scroll or aren't in space.

But "shooter" isn't quite as awkward as "shoot 'em up", so whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6171457
what the fuck

sound drops out on the stage 3 boss in doj blex? fuck off mihara, do it all over again and do it right this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6172141
Just call them vertical shooters, then, it's obvious what you are talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>DiadraEmpty

Oh man, why doesnt /jp/ ever talk about this game? This game is so much more fun than any touhou game Ive played that its amazing. Thanks to the anon that posted it in this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6172835
A crappy game made slightly less crappy. Woohoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6172892
I haven't had a chance to play it. I hear everything from it being the greatest shmup ever, to being a piece of shit. I hated Ikaruga (outside of art style) so we'll see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6172733
But them what about horizontal games like R-Type or Otomedius?

[Someone !1LTek3FWf. No.]

>>6172951
It's very different from your common shmup. Instead of getting power ups, you have to level up your weapons. Bosses eventually get harder; you couldn't beat Xiga at level one before time runs out.

Oh, and chaining could be a hassle. I mean, 3 colors?

[Anonymous No.]

Do you people genuinely enjoy stages? I find them a terrible chore whose only purpose seems to be to fill in the gaps between bosses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174007
Of course. Ketsui and MushiFutari 1.5 have fantastic stages.

Scoring mechanics go a long way to making shmups fun and challenging.

[Crix !!nLvSV/0cRma No.]

hell yeah motherfucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174007
You should play soem Gradius games, the stages in them are way cooler than most of the bosses. The crystal level in Gradius Gaiden, oh man.

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6174007
yes, of course. although after a while i start to hate stages 1 and 2 because they are always too easy.

i can't stand playing stage 2 in mushi futari for example. i hate it so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174138
Me too. I tend to know the stages so well I fuck up sometimes because I'm not paying so much attention and just "doing it." fuck stage 5 is fun though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6169637
Hellsinker has 9 normal stages and 2 extra stages. Some of the stages are also very long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6173802
How does leveling weapons make sense when the stages aren't in chronological order?

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6174143
yeah, almost all of my deaths in stage 2 in futari come from me not really paying attention, and then one of those fucking jellyfish come flying at me through the cloud of bullets and crash into me as i wait to blow up the giant icicle.

i get mad as hell when that happens. then of course i have to restart because i'm not going to die on stage fucking 2. fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174261

Heh, yeah I restart like that as well as well. Even if I kind of drift off and fucking up bits for score (especially on stage 1) I'll restart. If I don't have 600+ in Ketsui by the first stage midboss it is a restart too. God.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6168355
Look at all that rage! Successful troll is successful! I'll feed it too!

"STG" is the most retarded name ever, acronyms don't work that way. "Shooting game" could mean anything these days, "shmup" is the only unambiguous word that doesn't have "hey we don't know how the language we're using works but we'll use it anyways!" as its primary etymological trait.

As a bonus the name dates back to the time when most genres were called "* 'em up"s, which separates this from the newer shooting game genres and evokes slight feelings of nostalgia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174370
Right on, bro. What's your favorite Role-play 'em up, by the way? Mine's Persona 4.

Some of my other favorite games:

First Person 'em up: Duke Nukem 3D
Hack and Slash 'em up: Sengoku Basara
Stylish action 'em up: Devil May Cry 3
Fight 'em up: Super Street Fighter 4
Jump 'em up: Mario 64
Wrestle 'em up: No Mercy
Fly 'em up: Ace Combat 5
Race 'em up: OutRun 2
Mech 'em up: Steel Battalion
Gather 'em up: Starcraft
Read 'em up: Umineko

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6174402

fap 'em up: bible black

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>6170729
>>Radiant Silvergun coming to XBLA

Can't wait to play the upgraded manly tears and hot blood.

[Anonymous No.]

Say what you want but its the truth


shooters,shmups,stg>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>danmaku


ughhh people calling them danmakus pisses me off

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6174423
don't forget to be attitude for gains

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174370
STG > ShooTing Game
>acronyms don't work that way
Shmup > SHoot (th)'eM uP
>"shmup" ... doesn't have "hey we don't know how the language we're using works but we'll use it anyways!" as its primary etymological trait.

Hahaha, oh wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174438
"Shmup" is not an acronym, it is an abbreviation, therefore it is linguistically correct.

You're not supposed to pick random letters from the middle for acronyms, you're supposed to use the first letters only. STG does not consist of the words Shoo, Ting and Game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174427
Danmaku is a subgenre of shmup, which is a subgenre of shooting game, which is a genre of videogame. Calling danmaku danmaku is just being more specific. Of course calling non-danmaku danmaku is incorrect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174402
Street Fighters were originally called beat'em ups. The other games you retroactively invented terms for just to seem stupid. That is missing the point as they weren't called any of those things in the 80s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174496

Street Fighter was never called a beat 'em up. That would be games like Streets of Rage, Final Fight, etc.

bemups, for short.

[Anonymous No.]

BRB have to hang a Shump

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174488

danmaku > curtain fire > bullet hell

It isn't like people are going around saying "shoot 'em up" in Japanese.

[Kaguya is a !BEaRD8DGAI No.]

>>6164577
For $6? Why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174545
Manic shoot em up>danmaku > curtain fire > bullet hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174795
>maniaku shuuto amu appu
yea i think they rather stick to danmaku or something

[Anonymous No.]

Hey this thread's still here? Bumping

I feel I have too many shmups to play and end up not playing any of them at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6174488
I just call them "bullet hell".

[Anonymous No.]

So am I the only one that likes Rayforce but thinks Raystorm and Raycrisis suck? That perspective is just crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

how is playing a veritcal shmup like on the psp? is it weird?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6175615
Probably.

[Anonymous No.]

Ray Force is an awesome, underappreciated game. definitely agree with you about Ray Crisis (Taito's shortest (under 15 min. to beat!) and worst shooter) but no, RayStorm is probably one of Taito's best shooters alongside Darius II.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6175499
I call them Dodge 'em ups, or "Domups" for short.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6175635
I just can't get used to Raystorm. One guy shows up and shoots one bullet and I still can't dodge it because the perspective is insane. Shots getting bigger, my ship growing and shrinking as I move around, it just screws me up. Rayforce was great, even if the ship is way too slow, but then Raystorm ruined it. S'horrible.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

did anyone buy that king of fighters shooter on XBLA? i played the demo and it seemed fun enough, but i'm not sure i want to drop $10 on it since i'm poor as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6166635
what's the difference between the normal exceed3rd and the black package version? is it still the same story but updated game system? or a sequel or something

[Anonymous No.]

Yappari, exelica must appear in any STG thread

[Anonymous No.]

Tomorrow I'm beating Perfect Cherry Blossom. I practiced all the stages without losing a life except for 2 stage flukes. I can feel it in my bones.

[Anonymous No.]

I still have 1500yen left on my japanese psn account, what good shooters/shmup/stg are there in the classics?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6177006
>>6177006

What ya need is a jap 360 for all them (good) shmups. PSN is shit, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6177006
Dodonpachi, donpachi I think are on there. Einhander (sp) as well I think. Don't have a PS3 but this is what I've heard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6177644
DoDonPachi is on the 360, bro. 360 gets the superior shmups. ALWAYS.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone play DeathSmiles?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6177857

I mean the first DoDonPachi, not Daifukkatsu. I've got a J360 and all the CAVE ports so far (as well as Otomedius, Mamoru-kun, Shooting Love).

>>6177993

Yeah, it is really good. Jitterbug is a fucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6178017
Tyrannosatan is probably the best end boss ever.

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6177993
i love deathsmiles but i have the inferior north american version. i 1cc'd it with all 4 characters and got a pretty decent high score (150mil) though.

love it; going to buy deathsmiles 2x once my jap 360 is repaired. fuck i hate being poor sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6178401
IIX is alright. Arcade mode is kind of fucked. But it is definitely worth picking up.

[Anonymous No.]

Tried GENETOS. Some of those weapons are gonna be a bitch to get.

[Anonymous No.]

I use a SONY TRINITRON 21 for TATE, VGA through the 360 and PC through BNC RGB

[Anonymous No.]

>>6178528
Nuoh my god. I thought I was the only person on Earth who still owned one of those.

[Anonymous No.]

Agh! My back That damn thing is heavy. I have one in the next room.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>6178985
your handwriting is terrible

[Anonymous No.]

>>6178985
Wow this is really bad

[Francis York Morgan !mbHjxjfHlA No.]

>>6178985
>Are you talking to someone Hho grery up 14/shumps?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6179095
>>6179005
>>6179260
Horrible handwriting but its pretty damn spot on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6178401
Well my shmup power level must not be high because I thought the American version was hard enough. I just consider myself a white dude who likes shmups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6179680
Isn't the American version meant to be the harder one? Cave thought nobody outside Japan understand that the slowdown was intentional, so they got rid of it, and they didn't do anything to compensate. You just get faster bullets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6179730
This was actually because CAVE thought that there was too much slowdown in the original version, hence making the game too easy.

This is true though, since Deathsmiles is pretty damn easy to begin with for a CAVE game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6179981
If that's the case, why didn't they do anything about it for the Japanese release? It's been a year and a half, and no patch or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone tried to play in mushihimesama on pcsx2? I don't own PS/2 and my on year old+ PC mushihime works so-so: sound is laggy and generally it feels rather slow though playable. I'm thinking if should I upgrade PC or wait for another year till CPU become faster.

>>6178985
Is this handwriting really so horribly, or you tried to be LOLRANDOM with "no one cares"="no one caves" pun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6180017
i don't own it, but the anime club i'm part of has it. it's an awesome game

[Anonymous No.]

bump.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6180017
Same deal with pcsx2.

If you have a 360 Mushihimesama Futari 1.5 is region free.

[Anonymous No.]

i love exceed3rd's bgm, stage 5 boss theme is great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEkV_cI3Rnw

[that damn zombie !FairYK4wpI No.]

>>6180017
I'd lean more toward improper configuration or your system simply not being moderately tweaked for performance (see: other system resource applications and/or services). My PC is rather old (mid-range for 4-5 years ago) and from the sounds of it, I have somewhat better performance in the same game on the same emu. I'd suggest opening task manager and finding anything hogging CPU that isn't essential and close it. Same for things using lots of memory, but that shouldn't matter too much in this case. Also, if you don't already, disable desktop compositioning (if you're playing on Vista/7) while gaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6175534

I understand where you're coming from. Rayforce was a true challenge compared to its successors. Though I like all games in the Ray series a whole fucking lot.

Also, fuck that boss. Though the theme is catchy.

And for those who like 3D shmups in the same vein as Rayforce, try Kamui. It's been compared to Raystorm but it's really closer to being a more extreme Rayforce.

[Anonymous No.]

This thing should not have slid down a ramp to fight you. It's too easy to dispatch even if you have the dakka.

[Anonymous No.]

Any other jew gold tier shmups besides this and MArs Matrix?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6180017
Depends mostly on your processor.
If you have a Core2Duo at 3GHz or equivalent emulating pretty much any PS2 game should work.

[Anonymous No.]

I once played a game named After Burner, but never could get beyond of stage 12. It was just plain impossible for me at that point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6187549

Had the exact same problem with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6187549
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tuX4oJTDR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W42ZNtdBSY0

[Anonymous No.]

>>6187586
Wait. *Harder* than the original after burner? I cannot play it, it seems.

After Burner for NES made me a sad kid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6187650
MB Climax is okay. But yeah the other old-school looking Master Burner is some bullshit, but you can start at the last level you completed, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

After beating "Lost Viking" this looks easy. Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6187797
Huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6187797
That shooter on SC2?

That's a cake walk man. If you didn't get gold on that then you just suck at games.

[Suigin !fKazami5bE No.]

>>6187811
oh nostalgia

[Anonymous No.]

>>6187813
OH HE'S MAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>6188175
He doesn't seem very mad to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6188185

[Anonymous No.]

>>6188189
It is time to leave /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

http://dlgames.square-enix.com/siig/eng/index.html

Looks good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_yKEr7ndks&feature=related

[Anonymous No.]

>>6189358
It's a lot of fun. I really like it.

KOF Skystage came out same day, but it is horrible in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6193803
the weapon pickups look pretty slow tho, and if you die you seem to lose it all and have to collect them all over again
does it take very long for your weapon fire to build up to a good spread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194140

There are quite a number of ships with very different shot types. After something like stage 2-3 you get a lot of pickups. On some of the 3-x stages you might even have 6+ floating around the screen. It is really not an R-Type or Gradius situation in my experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194144
oh that's good to know, so they have multiple ships to select from the start? or does your ship kinda evolve like the game?
i'll pick it up soon, can it be played on the psp too or just ps3?

[Anonymous No.]

I like how some shmup players hate on Cave, and call people Cave-noobs and such. Like it makes them some type of badass internet rebel because they don't like the only company left making high quality shmups.

niggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194227
Yeah it is painfully gay.

As for SIIG, I don't know about PSP and that. Have it on 360.

[Anonymous No.]

Just wondering, does /jp/ (or /v/) have a list of essential Shmups/Danmaku/etc. like the other boards have for their stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194798
Not sure. I could always whip one up. I assume you mean outside of Touhou?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194816

Yeah preferrably, though I imagine at least one of the touhou games should be included on it. If you could make one or post link to an existing one that would be great. Cheers mate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194830
think you should leave touhou seperate, since you know, everyone plays every touhou anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194867

This is a good point to be fair. Maybe someone could put a subtext on the essential list which says to check out the touhou games if you haven't already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194830
Gradius, I guess. Can't really say you're a shooter fan without having played a Gradius game, right? The second one and Gradius Gaiden are better than the first, but nowhere near as historic.
Dodonpachi is pretty simple but it does everything well, so that's always worth a look. Pretty easy if you aren't trying for big chains or the second loop, too, so it's somewhat accessible for new players too.
Mars Matrix is hard as hell but it has a lot of excellent ideas, so it's in. The recharging reflect barrier instead of bombs, the chaining making you zoom all over the screen grabbing cubes instead of just hiding at the bottom, the adaptive enemies, there's a lot of interesting shit going on.
Rayforce/storm/crisis have some good ideas too. No magic bullets which can hit tanks on the ground as easily as they can hit planes in the air in this one, you need to use your lock on lasers to hit them instead. Another game which keeps you moving, dancing all over the screen trying to lock on to things.
R-Type Delta's pretty damn good as an example of a slow shooter. It's not about dodging so much as just putting yourself in a position where you won't need to dodge. It's really slow, and it does demand you do a fair bit of memorisation, but I find the controllable bullet blocking gun pod to allow some nice strategies. Do you want it attached to your front or your back? Do you want to leave it floating free so it can use its different weapons and possibly slam into things? Real tactical.
And Touhous too obviously.

There are loads more, but I'll leave them to someone else. I'm not really an expert.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6194908

Since this thread is auto-saging now (300 is the limit for auto-sage right?) is someone willing to make a new thread for essential shmups?