Big Bang Age

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Big Bang Age Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Thu Sep 16 22:13:24 2010 No.6144018 [Reply] [Original]

New thread! This is an excellent Alicesoft game; let's continue the discussion!

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu Sep 16 22:16:24 2010 No.6144043 There's a BBA doujin fighting game too if you want to play it. Kunagi has a cool theme song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfkXCzsiuzY

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:21:24 2010 No.6144070 >>6144043 Too bad BBB was ruined by patches and BBB2 is even worse so far

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Thu Sep 16 22:24:24 2010 No.6144087

>>6144043
Sounds great! I'll check it out after my second playthrough for Kunagi's route. Time to learn the truth about villains that died quick last time on Senna route, like Camilla and Jeanne.

For hard mode, how much of a multiplier do enemies get?

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:38:24 2010 No.6144140 >>6144087 Not much. Maybe like, 10-20%.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:44:24 2010 No.6144154 >>6144087 I've just beat the NPI on my second playthrough, Kunagi's route. Those pirates with guns were annoying to deal with, I hope these holy flame guys aren't that bad.

Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:45:24 2010 No.6144161
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The best part of BBB was Heita's 10 Year Knuckle Super showing an alternate future where he's the hero, marries Hibiki and conquers the Japan, all with a chibi Rouga in the background.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq67u4fU894

>>6144154
It's not the knights that'll get you. It's the gigas.

And the knights.

Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:50:24 2010 No.6144175
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>>6144161
Turn 61, think I should invade them or go after someone else? I was doing pretty good for time, but then I started messing around with events and clearing characters and the NPI attacked me, guess they got tired of waiting. I might not have enough turns left.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:52:24 2010 No.6144181 >>6144175 Invade them. It's going to be a lot harder than you expect.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:53:24 2010 No.6144192 >>6144175 Oh wait, you haven't taken the Sonkens? Maybe do that, but I don't think you have enough time left for that now. Oh well.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Thu Sep 16 22:57:24 2010 No.6144211 >>6144175 I waited around so the Skull Serpents invaded them. Oh well, at least I didn't have to get the Human Cannon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 22:58:24 2010 No.6144218 >>6144211 No foot job from Michiru for you then.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 23:01:24 2010 No.6144229 File: 51 KB, 640x480, ALCG0000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6144211 But... but... Suigin Tou dress!

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 23:03:24 2010 No.6144238 >>6144161 poor Heita I felt bad about Rouga stealing a girl I didn't even want. But Heita holds his head high and continues to be the best damn character in the game. What a man.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Thu Sep 16 23:04:24 2010 No.6144242 >>6144218 >>6144229 Yeah, I'll make sure to get them on my second playthrough. Are you at war with PGG by default? I want to try going the other way and save either them or Nightmare Eyes for last this time around.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 23:07:24 2010 No.6144249 >>6144218 >>6144229 Wait, so they get killed if you wait too long? Around what turn? I might have enough time left to save them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 23:07:24 2010 No.6144250 >>6144242 No, but they declare war on you around turn 11. NME declares war around turn 28 IIRC, and NPI declares war on 45ish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 23:08:24 2010 No.6144254 >>6144249 The Kyushu faction invades their territory a couple turns after they attack Kaen. I don't know the exact timing though, sorry.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Thu Sep 16 23:15:24 2010 No.6144273 >>6144249 >>6144254 So basically, sometime after turn 65. Maybe ~70ish.

>>	Anonymous Thu Sep 16 23:22:24 2010 No.6144299 Aww shit. turn 62. I have the human cannon, but the Holy Flame just took over the SU. I hope I can get to them first.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Thu Sep 16 23:56:24 2010 No.6144438 By the way, does anyone have a 100% scene complete save?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 05:19:24 2010 No.6145838 Bump

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 07:50:24 2010 No.6146149 Is there any advantages of choosing Mizuki at all? Nanana looks to me like she is just as good for combat is not better, and Nanana also give you Akuu later and this guy rocks (plus he clears 3 of his stars by just fighting and fighting and fighting).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 07:52:24 2010 No.6146151 >>6146149 >if not better,

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 08:34:24 2010 No.6146214 >>6146149 Basically she's just good if you want to complete character clears/cgs. Her scout skill is nice but takes to much to get and get so used to not having it anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 09:26:24 2010 No.6146313 >>6146149 Just get Nanana. Akuu is great, and Nanana's stats are decent and her stamina is good, and later on, her ally attack+ skill is great. Just get Ijuuin instead of Francine if you want the scout ability.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 09:31:24 2010 No.6146322 Is it possible to acquire Shizuri without Kendo?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 09:55:24 2010 No.6146371 I tried downloading the 1.00 patch, but my antivirus is reading it as a potential threat. Is it a false positive? Sorry for temporarily derailing discussion here. Never had this happen with the previous patches.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:11:24 2010 No.6146403 >>6146322 I just tested in Kunagi route, and without Kendo it's impossible. But what if Rouga was with Senna? Would that be enough to draw out Shizuri? (I don't have any savegame to test this)

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:15:24 2010 No.6146414 >>6146403 No, it's not. Kendo has to be on your team, no matter the route. I went Senna route without her.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:20:24 2010 No.6146428 >>6146414 Damn. Then the Kendo/Nanana choices are way more stronger than I thought. They give you Akuu and Shizuri... Erika/Mizuki choices are so weak in comparison, it must be for people who likes challenges...

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:21:24 2010 No.6146433

Might as well say this here.

Attention Anon who said that he'd translate Alice 2010 version of Rance 2. I have asked Phiber to look into the game, and as predicted it's different engine from Sengoku. Hopefully he can work something out after actually getting his hands on the full game. Which should be later today when he comes online and I can send it to him.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:23:24 2010 No.6146440

>>6146428
Hm, I wouldn't count that combination out as the "weak" one. Can't say much about Mizuki (she just plain sucks, and only useful for her ability or if you need more short range.), but Erika can still curbstomp guys all the way to National chapter, what with her type advantage and whatnot. She also gets more lackeys to use as BP harvesters and also nets a decent character, Comet-san, on the side.

All in all, I'd say the Erika/Mizuki combo is balanced.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:30:24 2010 No.6146449 Kendo got so strong in my game, she could single handedly wipe out a group of six holy flame knights. She was almost on level with Rouga and Kyouichiro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:32:24 2010 No.6146453 >>6146449 same here. My Kyudo probably could as well, but she keeps running out of stamina.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 10:47:24 2010 No.6146488 Igarashi is such an ungrateful bitch. I liberated her city but she still has purple in loyalty rating.... Next time I'll just conquer their little city first, much less of a hassle and I'm guaranteed to not lose Ginjou.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 11:10:24 2010 No.6146545 File: 277 KB, 640x480, ALCG0000.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Think I should invade the flaming faggots yet? I heard they take over Igarashi's land somewhere, should I wait until they do that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 11:14:24 2010 No.6146558 >>6146545 If you don't have 3 stars for Tomoka yet, invade Kobe. Otherwise do whatever.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 11:21:24 2010 No.6146571 >>6146558 Oh never mind. I failed to invade Koube due to an event and the Holy Flame declared war. God, I'm tired of these knights already.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 11:30:24 2010 No.6146583 could anyone kindly tell me the download link for this look-like awesome game and the english pacth?

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 11:49:24 2010 No.6146610

>>6146428
It's balanced.
Well, Mizuki sucks and Nanana is better than her in every way.

But the Kendo sisters and Erika are balanced.
With Erika you get 3 characters instead of two, and while you get Shizuri with Kendo, you do get Comet-san with Erika.
Then you might argue that Shizuri > Comet, but Comet still ayn't bad, and it's still 4 characters vs 3.

Also, the AllyCounter+30, AllyHit+30, and AllyEvade+20 shouldn't be underestimated.
And Erika actually does have higher HP and Evade than Kendo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 12:22:24 2010 No.6146679 hey where can i get the translation patch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 12:35:24 2010 No.6146714 >>6146679 http://bmw.seiha.org/BBA%20English1.0.rar

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 13:08:24 2010 No.6146823 By the way, who is the green haired girl who seems to also be a Hard Mode heroine, since she also has lots of CG scenes? How do I get her? She isn't on the wiki's character page!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 13:24:24 2010 No.6146878 Pay the debt and you will find her automatically. By the way she is not a unit so you cannot use her in battle.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 13:26:24 2010 No.6146883 need some MU links. I don't like torrents

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 13:49:24 2010 No.6146970 I always recruit Kibito out of pity. If you don't know where to put him, Moo! is a good location since his negative skill can't hurt it (it's already a 0bp location).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 13:50:24 2010 No.6146973 + he can be used for bringing back order there (the 10bp cost thing).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 15:17:24 2010 No.6147311 >>6146823 Only one of the events is actually her, and they're all literally fucked up rape nightmares.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 15:18:24 2010 No.6147318 File: 209 KB, 1163x381, awesome watatsukis.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6147311 ...sounds awesome! The more deviant it is, the better!

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 15:36:24 2010 No.6147385 >>6147318 Where does a father having sex with his daughter as he slowly morphes into a demon with a goat on the back of its head rate?

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 15:40:24 2010 No.6147410

>>6147385
Reminds me of Xavier and Kurohime. I'll have to see, but I really like scenes that take advantage of its fictional nature to do things not usually possible, or would be very different, in real life.

The only thing I don't like is the "it was just a dream" part. It felt kinda disappointing in the Yakashido (or whatever his name was) induced scenes that in the end things just go on as normal since nothing actually happened

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:29:24 2010 No.6147701 The broadcaster girl was such a brave waifu ;_;

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:33:24 2010 No.6147723

Gah, this game... Had to restart my first playthrough after I beat the vampires. It basically just turned into me having to play defense while I tried to keep my units happy and my income up.

Any little tips and or tricks that might help me out my 2nd time?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:34:24 2010 No.6147727 Curry girl is mai waifu.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:35:24 2010 No.6147732 >>6147701 That poor girl...Is there any way to save her? I really wanted her to live...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:37:24 2010 No.6147741 >>6147723 Same solution to both problems. Build more curry wolves. Put them everywhere. With enough money, loyalty also stops being an issue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:38:24 2010 No.6147742 I'm late at the party. Could anyone direct me to a starter kit concerning this? (where to get the rom/patch, at least). Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:38:24 2010 No.6147745 >>6147732 Easy. Win before turn 98 or whenever it is she dies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:39:24 2010 No.6147750 >>6147732 She did her best to encourage everbody to fight together ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:41:24 2010 No.6147763 File: 10 KB, 429x410, 1283530393213.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] broadcaster-chan...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:42:24 2010 No.6147771 >>6147732 >>6147745 She lives after you beat the final dungeon. She reports what everyone does in the epilogue.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:45:24 2010 No.6147783

>>6147723
Recruit a bunch of generic girls during the regional phase for their high income and low cost.

Build curry wolves everywhere.

Recruit Ryoutarou(girly blonde guy) and do his events for the easy money. Use that money for a hawaii vacation if you have a bunch of units that are low on loyalty.

Keep fucking Sanae if you're low on BP. Using that BP to restore loyalty when you talk to a unit goes a long way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:48:24 2010 No.6147799 Seeing the camera guy die, and the broadcaster girl struggle to save the nation, then I look at my roster and see majority of my faggot army with yellow and red loyalty... RAGE

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 16:59:24 2010 No.6147850

They should have made it so everybody gets boosted to blue loyalty when you suppressed the other 4 factions, or in the last ten turns when the earthquake begins.

A gimmicky gesture at that point, but it would add some sort of esthetic depth to the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:01:24 2010 No.6147857 Where is the game? the version on hongfire suck dicks (chinese simplified) and isnt even seeded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:02:24 2010 No.6147866 >>6147850 At that point in the game, just fuck Kaen a couple times to be able to afford a Hawaiian vacation. She orgasms BP.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:05:24 2010 No.6147886

What is the deal with Eclair?
You really don't seem to be able to recruit her, having her in the prison did nothing for me whatsoever, interregation does nothing special.

Was the only reason she was even capturable to portray the Holy Flame's undying resolve in how she never gave uo even in prison, or what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:05:24 2010 No.6147887 >>6147866 Yeah, I know money and loyalty is piece of cake at that point. Still wish they had thought of it some more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:06:24 2010 No.6147896 >>6147857 The one I downloaded was [hshare.net].Daibanchou-Big.Bang.Age maybe you can find it with a bit of googling.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:07:24 2010 No.6147898 >>6146488 Igarashi's a bigger bitch than that. You can get an automatic game over with her if you recruit her and Rouga's level is too low.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:09:24 2010 No.6147908 >>6147886 You just can't recruit them. End of story.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:09:24 2010 No.6147909 >>6147886 Nobody knows. Japanese sites seem to think that it's an incomplete event and she was supposed to be like Kagao and join you after you conquer the Holy Flame.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:24:24 2010 No.6147973 File: 376 KB, 381x485, 1269410332512.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6147898 I'll be sure to murder her every playthrough from now on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:36:24 2010 No.6148036 >>6147898 Do you have a savegame with this? I'd like to see that event.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:44:24 2010 No.6148089 How does EXP work in this game? Sometimes it seems that even units that arent fighting level up for no reason

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:47:24 2010 No.6148109 >>6148089 A character can only level up +1 per turn. So if they receive enough exp to increase 2 levels, it'll happen over 2 turns.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:50:24 2010 No.6148133 >>6148036 No, but IIRC, it's just Igarashi spraying gunfire through the door and then calling Rouga weak and naive before saying that she's taking over now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:52:24 2010 No.6148155 >>6148089 IIRC the units can only level up one level a turn, so if they have enough experience to level up several times, they can still level up without fighting that turn.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 17:53:24 2010 No.6148159

>>6148089

A unit can only level up once per turn, but can 'stack' levels.

Hence, if you have like, 100/50 XP, the unit will level up once, then have 50/50 XP, then level up again next turn.

So it's possible for units to get that in a fight, level, you move them somewhere with no fight, and then level again.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 17:58:24 2010 No.6148186 Is there any way we can see which numbers count as a level up for each character? Usually they just gain like +2 hit but with the actual level up times they gain a lot more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:02:24 2010 No.6148224 >>6148186 It's weighted random by character, same as Fire Emblem.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:04:24 2010 No.6148239 >>6148159 Ah, so it's just some weird trick inside my head that makes me think that garrisoned units suddenly level up

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:06:24 2010 No.6148248

What exactly are the pro's and con's with Francine and Ijuin? I know Ijuin has the Scout skill and that Francine has increased capture rate, but is there anything else for them? Do either of them have some greater influence later on I should be aware of before choosing?

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 18:09:24 2010 No.6148260 >>614824 Ijuin is required for Kunagi clear. Francine is required to turn reveal Yuuki is a girl so you can have sex with him/her. As a girl she will also get a better skill.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:11:24 2010 No.6148279 >>6148260 Hmm...Character clear, or sex. My my, what a difficult choice. Okay, thanks for the info good sir.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:14:24 2010 No.6148286 >>6148248 Francine is also needed to clear Igarashi, but she's late in the game and not a very good unit anyway. Both also require a shitload of specific other characters in order to full clear them, so whatever.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 18:18:24 2010 No.6148298

>>6148279
You're welcome! But it's probably impossible to do everything in just one or two playthroughs anyways, so if it's your first time just do as you please. It's more fun that way instead of being obsessive about completion, because you can't actually come close to getting everything anyways. Though getting many events is nice since it carrys to the next playthrough.

Now on this choice, Kunagi is one of the game's main heroine so it sounds important, but the game has two main routes, and if you do the the other route instead, you won't even get Kunagi so it doesn't matter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:21:24 2010 No.6148309 >>6148279 Ijuin outclasses Francine as a unit however, he is a bit low on hit but that is quickly fixed with some exp or an item (or allyhit+). And the scout skill, while perhaps not neccesary, is still great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:22:24 2010 No.6148314 Does anyone have a Kunagi+Francine save around when you recruit Igarashi Koumi? Missed out on her the first time I played, and I really don't want to do another Kunagi+Francine run just to see her last star.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:32:24 2010 No.6148378 >>6148298 It takes three or four games at least, just because of those two requiring very late game characters to clear.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:34:24 2010 No.6148391

>>6148314
I don't have a save if you want one for the full clear, but it's a joke event.
Igarashi gets kicked out of a restaurant for smoking, so she goes to the Hanni Building to smoke with SHADE (Alicesoft's Composer). Then he chases her off because she doesn't appreciate his music so Francine comes in and listens to it before leaving a huge mass of cigarettes in the ashtray which set off the fire alarms.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 18:38:24 2010 No.6148414 >>6148391 That's good enough. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:41:24 2010 No.6148810 does Jinnai Heita really die if you use 10yr knuckle more than 7 times? I remember him or devil daigo dying in one of my jap play throughs after getting powerup.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 19:43:24 2010 No.6148829 >>6148810 It says so in the wiki. Any reason why you would doubt it?

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 19:51:24 2010 No.6148886 >>6148810 Yes, he really dies. Epic death is the last step in becoming a man. Devil Daigo is no match for this game's character with the same name as a delicious yet hated NEET. She rips his balls out

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:28:24 2010 No.6149041 So which is better the Nakanishi girls or Erika?

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:35:24 2010 No.6149062

>>6149041
Erika dominates the first half of the game and her and her gang's passive skills are very useful on first games. Kendo's better more generally, but lacks a good type strength to take advantage of it until late game when Shizuri trains her while Kyudo's got low accuracy for a ranged unit, which limits her usefulness. Shizuri is a much better unit than Comet and requires less work to pick up.

TL;DR
Erika on first games without bonuses or if you want to clear Abao (need to take Nanana for that), Kendo/Kyudo if everybody has their bonuses.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 20:41:24 2010 No.6149094

>>6149041
>>6149062
What really matters is that the Nakanishi girls have much more sex scenes (including incest). Erika only has one scene.

And for some reason Kendo gets autorapped when she dies; I don't think this happens to anyone else. Guess everyone just really want to rape Kendo.

Does she get autorapped even in the final dungeon?

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:44:24 2010 No.6149111

>>6149041
http://alicesoft.wikia.com/wiki/Big_Bang_Age:Character_Comparisons

Obviously it depends on how much effort you put into them, but Erika was one of the strongest attackers in my first game. It is very easy for her to gain exp thanks her type advantages in the first half of the game.

Saki is also a pretty decent ranged unit and has her buffs. Shoko is awful aside from her buff. Adding Saki & Nanana to any team is fantastic.

Comet is pretty good given how early you can get her, but Shizuri is definitely stronger. Especially since she improves one of the sisters.

I'm also biased because Erika is one of my favorite girls in the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:46:58 2010 No.6149121 >>6149041 Someone really should make a 'who's better' list out of all the optional characters. But I suppose it would take too long to compile.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 20:47:24 2010 No.6149123 >>6149111 Shizuri/Kendo event seems to have low priority though. I had them together for 10 turns before it activated...on turn 99. Yeah...

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 20:47:24 2010 No.6149125 >>6149123 PS, what does the new animation look like?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 20:49:24 2010 No.6149132 >>6149094 I'd rape the shit out of her. Don't see why anyone wouldn't want to.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 20:58:24 2010 No.6149174

>>6149132
>shit out
Wrong sister. Poor Kyudo...

But she really does look much sexier in that scene with her hair down in the showers. I didn't think she was too hot compared to Kendo at first, but her H-scene really made made her so much more beautiful looking.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:03:24 2010 No.6149189

It's just too bad that this game requires you to choose between two great heroins. Would be awesome if they had let you keep both somehow. Maybe in a 2nd run or something.

>>6149041
Erika makes the bikers in the district chapter much easier to handle. She's a very strong unit initially, and can definitely hold her own late game. Her pals, however, are a different story. Neither are very good, only being useful for getting Comet and their passives.

The sisters are both decent when they initially join you. They're not as impressive as Erika, but again, they can hold their own. Kyudo however, you'll want to be a bit more careful with. Later in the game, they both become very powerful though.

Your call, Anon.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 21:10:24 2010 No.6149207

>>6149189
Kyudo never became too powerful for me, but she's decent and certainly much better than Erika's croonies. Plus, if you're into the "pure" thing...she never actually comes into contact with dicks in either of her H-scenes! Fresh goods!

She is a good girl.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:21:24 2010 No.6149250 >>6149207 Just covered in semen and her own shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:33:24 2010 No.6149299 In my opinion, I'd take 2 good characters over 1 exellent + 2 low tier characters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:51:24 2010 No.6149387 The Kendo/Kyudo girls are so much superior, it's not even funny. Kendo is stronger than Erika. Period. Kyudo is stronger than the other two girls. Shizuri is hax. Period. And don't forget Kyudo is needed to clear Kyouichiro.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:53:24 2010 No.6149395 >>6149387 >And don't forget Kyudo is needed to clear Kyouichiro. Oh wait, it's the other ways around.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 21:58:24 2010 No.6149413

>>6149111
>Adding Saki & Nanana to any team is fantastic
Nanana, I could reason with, since she's quite strong on her own.

But Saki and Shoko are so weak. It's not worth it to wast 33% or even 17% of your experience points on them.
Their passive skills isn't a very good argument.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 22:35:24 2010 No.6149550

Nanana >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mizuki
Kendo >>>>>>>>>>>>> Erika

But Burai vs Kinako is up for discussion.
Burai is great against long range and medium range due to high evade. He's also good against short ranged.
Kinako is great against short range. But horrible against long and medium.

Overall, Burai is in my opinion the more complete fighter. Has decent HP and stamina and can tank better.
Kinako is more moe....

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 22:53:24 2010 No.6149642
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Since we're apparently unable to have a separate thread for character discussion without people derailing it, let's discuss it here! Who were your favorite characters? Which girls did you find cutest? What were your favorite sex scenes? What event scenarios did you like a lot?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:01:24 2010 No.6149668 If I install this in the jap locale and then switch is back to my original region, will I still be able to run the game fine?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:02:41 2010 No.6149670 How do I suppress areas? After I started I took over the roof and got Erka but I can't take over the second floor. I defeated all the guys there (or at lest no body is attacking me) and itt's been like 6 Turns.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:05:24 2010 No.6149681

How do I suppress areas? After I started I took over the roof and got Erka. However I can't take over the second floor. I defeated all the guys there (or atleast no body is attacking me anymore) and it's Turn 11 (and the last three or so Turns has been Rouga talking about making a plan and nothing happens).

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:09:24 2010 No.6149692 >>6149681 ...What the fuck are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:12:24 2010 No.6149702 >>6149681 Uh...What? Is there...Still a red arrow in it? Does it show you can 'fight' there again? If so, do it. If not...Restart?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:14:24 2010 No.6149711 >Fighting the holy flame well these guys are fucking lame I don't see what all the fuss is abou- holy fuck I am losing areas like the fucking fist of the north star! fuck no this is the worst plothax ever!

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:17:24 2010 No.6149723

>>6149692
I just started but I can't take over areas. I killed all the people on the roof and was able to take it over (now it is blue). And I tried taking over the second floor and I believe it worked (I won the fight and won the revolt battle) however the Second Floor isn't turning Blue. So I keep trying to go to the Science Room and the Second Floor Classroom but nothing is happening. I do see a bar on the top left and a few arrows (the arrows are different for each area. So I assume I got to make all the arrows Green to take it over. Currently the Second Floor has one Green Arrow out of two) on the top right though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:23:24 2010 No.6149737 >>6149723 You have to station people on the floor during the deployment phase and then click on it and battle...even if there are no enemies there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:27:24 2010 No.6149748 >>6149737 I actually already tried stationing everyone in all the areas but it didn't work. Guess I'll just restart. Maybe I didn't kill the final guy in the Second area.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:40:24 2010 No.6149793

>>6149711
And the worst part is, some of the areas have 7 control points. So you would waste another 4 turns reconquer, 3 turns if you're clever enough.
And then the guy who disguises himself like you, if he does it in an area with 3 control points, you're equally screwed and will waste 1-2 turns.

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:42:24 2010 No.6149805

Anyone found downloads with the updated 2009 version sporting higher 800*600 resolution support? Only found mislabelled ones of the 2003 version.
Noticed my version is the older one with 640*480 which looks too small windowed and suffers from horrible scaling/aspect ratio-issues fullscreen.
Failing that, are there any tweaks to give higher windowed-mode resolutions?

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:42:24 2010 No.6149807 Kaguya > Kinako

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Fri Sep 17 23:44:24 2010 No.6149814 By the way, what was the reason why this had voice acting for h-scenes yet a newer game like Sengoku Rance didn't? Did they have less money then? Or just didn't want to give voices to some long running classic characters?

Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:57:24 2010 No.6149868

>>6149793
I know man. I just finish capturing their 6 arrow area to save the girl with wings? Can't have that, they take it back the same turn
The 7 arrow area below it? That's theirs too.
I have 20 turns to conquer about 7 areas now, fuck. Plus there's that bit we have the treaty with, that'll take about 3 turns...

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 17 23:59:24 2010 No.6149875 From what I've read here and there, it sounds like this is a pretty tough game compared to SR. Will I need a walkthrough or something to avoid getting screwed over?

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sat Sep 18 00:00:24 2010 No.6149882 >>6149868 If you have a treaty, then why are you thinking of conquering it? Tsk, tsk~

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:00:24 2010 No.6149883

This game seems like it has a much higher initial learning curve than Sengoku Rance, it's pretty hard to get a grip on.

Currently, I'm about halfway through the district chapter. I keep feeling like I don't have nearly enough dudes to do everything I need to do. Collect income, increase law when it gets low, defend from attacks, and attack to increase territory. When you mix all that with having to bench dudes from time to time to regain hp and such, I feel like my army needs to be twice as big as it is. Which worries me, because every income phase I go totally broke and Gou has to gift me some BP. I assume that will stop in the national chapter, so whatever I'm doing so wrong with income now might totally fuck me when I get there.

I realize this is all fairly vague, but does anyone have any general advice for these issues?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:03:24 2010 No.6149892 >>6149883 Don't worry too much about income at that stage, it can't be helped. Recruit as many generic schoolgirls from Seijou academy as you can. They have 50 income stat. Don't worry about Law either, it only costs 10BP to restore the law of an area.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:08:24 2010 No.6149919 >>6149883 Also, if you're really desperate for money, have sex with Sanae for a free 50BP when the heroine sex phase comes around. You can also release prisoners for bail money, so it might be worth trying to capture a few.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sat Sep 18 00:13:24 2010 No.6149936

>>6149883
It's actually worse than that, because those are actually not free tutorial gifts. They are all debts you'll have to repay, with interest no less.

But it's actually not as bad as it sounds. Even when I didn't know how to receive any building income at all, and had a huge debt, I still managed to conquer half the map. With buildings from the start, money soon shouldn't be a problem as long as you don't waste it for character bonuses or items.

The combat learning curve is actually less steep than Rance in my opinion, and more strategic.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:18:24 2010 No.6149967

Short range enemies: easy mode, kill them with mid range or long rangers without taking any damage
Medium range enemies: take them out with long range or suck up the damage with other mid rangers
Long range enemies: pain in the ass (I'm looking at you, demons and pirates). Use whatever has the highest counter, or suck up damage with a long range unit.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:21:24 2010 No.6149980

>>6149936

That's a debt? fuuuuuuck I had just been abusing it assuming I had infinite money in the district phase due to that, I wish that asshole had told me that.

And yeah, the combat I'm ok with. It's just everything else that seems really difficult.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 00:25:24 2010 No.6149990 >>6149980 When you get to National, conquer Yoko Hama ASAP to get enough income to pay your units. The curry buildings are very good to invest in once you get some free cash as well.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:03:24 2010 No.6150114

>>6149990
That's not necessarily the most optimal move though. I go after Shinjuku first to get Touma and Youki while also stationing units at Yokohama to clear out the independents since they don't regenerate. You can then conquer it unopposed on turn 3. The only slight issue is that you end up with one event regional event, but I just suppress the hospital for the extra income and the +HP item.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:04:24 2010 No.6150119 >>6150114 >event regional event Extra regional event

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:38:24 2010 No.6150256 File: 230 KB, 600x433, Evil Camilla.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If BBA had an FFA mode to choose which faction, who would you swore your allegiance? This is my answer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 01:40:24 2010 No.6150265 >>6150114 So, if you go after Shin Juku and get Touma, can you just let it be reclaimed and not worry about it, or will the enemies keep constantly attacking you since you already entered it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:10:24 2010 No.6150359 >>6150256 you mean her younger brother right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 02:24:24 2010 No.6150412 >>6150265 After you get him, yeah. I like to dump units there to farm experience off the zombies though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 04:34:24 2010 No.6150935 So can I do Kunagi's route and still get Kyouko?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 04:37:24 2010 No.6150939 >>6150935 You have to in order to get one of Kyouko's stars.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:30:24 2010 No.6151093 When a not generic unit says it cannot be captured. I can freely drop them to 0 hp right and I can get a chance to recruit them later right?

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 05:30:24 2010 No.6151094

>>6149967
>Short range enemies: easy mode, kill them with mid range or long rangers without taking any damage
Mid range is good against short. There are many high damage mid range characters who kill in one hit.
Long range, often not so good. Long is usually weak against them because long range usually have low damage output, while short ranged have high counter.

>Medium range enemies: take them out with long range or suck up the damage with other mid rangers
Long range is good against mid range since mid range usually have weak counter.

>Long range enemies: pain in the ass (I'm looking at you, demons and pirates). Use whatever has the highest counter, or suck up damage with a long range unit.
Or whatever units have high evade. Such as Kunagi / Burai / Akuu

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 14:45:24 2010 No.6152356

Was there a point to the librarian? I wasted a few turns borrowing and returning the books, but nothing happened. She looks like a special character though...

I also didn't get those two sisters, Kendo and Kyudo. Was that because I didn't do the archery girl event?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 15:25:24 2010 No.6152540 >>6152356 You can only recruit Erika or the Nakanishis. The librarian thing determines which of two characters joins you in National.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 16:15:24 2010 No.6152760 >>6152356 The librarian is pretty useless no stars to clear and really weak character.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 16:23:24 2010 No.6152793

>>6152356

Rouga needs to fall below 19 HP in the national chapter (this is actually somewhat of a pain to get, I find, mostly because I never remember to intentionally suck that badly), and a start of turn event will happen where you either get the librarian or another character (depending on if you borrowed or never borrowed/returned the book)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:14:24 2010 No.6152993 >>6152793 I also think a certain amount of turns need to be passed. I'm not sure of it yet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:19:24 2010 No.6153008 >>6152760 80 income 7 cost >useless No she isn't. The nurse is less useful in my opinion. She sucks up 1/6 of your exp, and her passive skill isn't all that great...

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:25:24 2010 No.6153025 Just to be sure, exceeding the income available doesn't really do anything does it? And it's funny how I originally thought this would be prety similar to SR. I was wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:26:24 2010 No.6153030 >>6152993 Sort of. It's just a very low priority event and National starts out with about 8 turns worth of mandatory start of turn events plus however more you accumulate through other character events.

Nanaya !yrBrqfF1Ew Sat Sep 18 17:32:24 2010 No.6153058
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So I'm going along, struggling, reloading saves, ect.. And then these rats pop out on dream island and one has 400 health.

.......I could easily kill it with Rouga, but that's two or three turns of no Rouga on the front lines, which would at this point destroy me. Is there something I was supposed to do but didn't, or the other way around to avoid these rats?

This first run is a failure but I'm salvaging it as long as I can so I've got a better grasp of how everything works, what I should avoid, ect. It'd be useful to know how to avoid these rats on my second run.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:33:24 2010 No.6153063

>>6153025
Exceeding a city's income isn't possible, nope.

(also, feel free to ignore law. Saves a lot of headache, and saves you money in the long run since you don't have to hire expensive male generics. As long as you click the restore order button you'll be fine)

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:38:24 2010 No.6153089
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>>6153058
Do you see that "pay 10bp" button? Use it whenever you see the skull pop up in one of your cities.

(paying 10 bp per turn is much much cheaper than hiring male generics to uphold law)

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:40:24 2010 No.6153099 >>6153058 When a skull appears in a region just select "restore order", it cost only 10 pb and you avoid the rats.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:42:24 2010 No.6153109

>>6153089
Correction on that image. You can't do the cleanup for free money infinitely. I set up a script that just clicked it over and over again and left it running overnight. Once you gain around 1,000 BP, you find nothing but garbage for the rest of that game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:46:24 2010 No.6153125 >>6153109 Cool enough. I just sort of wrote from from a practical point of view. Nobody in right right mind would waste hours on acquiring a few bp anyway....

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:47:24 2010 No.6153136 >>6153125 I run it for Hard Mode because I don't like having to waste my entire bankroll just to get three shitty characters.

>>	Nanaya !yrBrqfF1Ew Sat Sep 18 17:48:24 2010 No.6153142 >>6153089 >>6153099 So that spawns..mutant rats? I've paid to restore order in other regions but I just left dream island as it was as I thought it only just reduced income and revolted. Didn't think it would spawn annoying monster rats.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:53:24 2010 No.6153166 File: 140 KB, 750x563, Eclair.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love Eclair.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 17:55:24 2010 No.6153169 >>6153058 Man, you really hate Hibiki, don't you? She's one of the best units in the game you know.

Nanaya !yrBrqfF1Ew Sat Sep 18 18:07:24 2010 No.6153215

>>6153169
She was quite weak compared to Rouga and Kunagi, and all I thought during that run was to brute force my way as far as I could so I could learn more to properly do a second run.

Another thing is I didn't quite understand the ranges, and by the time I did she was pretty weak.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:11:24 2010 No.6153233 >>6153215 She starts out weak but only needs about 15 exp to level up. She gains stats more than twice as fast as most other characters.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:12:24 2010 No.6153236

>>6153169
>She's one of the best units in the game
Truth.

Here's something interesting in my playthrough:
Kendo's stats:
experience level: 111
attack: 65
hp: 90
evade:28

Hibiki's stats:
experience level: 110
attack: 65
hp: 95
evade:48
!!
She had better stats than even Kendo....

Class president isn't hax, but she's definitely a solid fighter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:14:24 2010 No.6153245 >>6153109 Run it again, I firmly believed it replenished as turns went by.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:22:24 2010 No.6153272 >>6153236 And my stats for Heita, at comparative level: experience level: 107 attack: 36 hp: 83 evade:36 I'm not going to bother with this guy on my next playthrough. I'm giving all the exp points to Rouga, Kinako and Hibiki in the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:25:24 2010 No.6153288 >>6153272 Work on him to become Super Heita. It will change your opinion about him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:26:24 2010 No.6153296 >>6153288 Need access to Kunamoto, way too late into the game.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:27:24 2010 No.6153301 Super Heita's just nice for the strength against demons in the last dungeon, but hardly necessary.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:35:24 2010 No.6153339 Should I go for Sanzou or Daigo? ;_;

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:52:24 2010 No.6153397

>>6153339
Daigou for デビール. Sanzou lives up to his name as the Iron Wall with his massive HP at the start. His other stats lag behind, but will catch up if you keep using him. You can't have him to clear Aya's starts though.

As of all the character choices, pick who you want or need on your team.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 18:56:24 2010 No.6153413 >>6153339 Daigo's evade, stamina and attack are all top. It doesn't take long until nothing can touch him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:01:24 2010 No.6153433 wait so is this patch fully translated now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:03:24 2010 No.6153441 >>6153397 >>6153413 It might make more sense to get Daigo then. Since I won't have Kunagi in Senna's route.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:04:24 2010 No.6153446 >>6153433 Majority was the game was translated since months ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:13:24 2010 No.6153481 Does Senna's route have the same annoying limit where you can't attack the last faction until turn 65~ish?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:18:24 2010 No.6153503 >>6153441 Daigo's definitely a better unit than Sanzou, but if you're trying to 100% the game, you need to take him at least once to the endgame for Francine's clear.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:20:24 2010 No.6153510 >>6153481 Yes, but it's even lamer since the pirates have no real special events, half their units are generic schoolboys/girls, and their special ability is retarded. They attack any random territory on the map once every other turn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:33:24 2010 No.6153571 Is it possible to somehow have Kaguya not kill Daigo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:35:24 2010 No.6153578 >>6153571 Don't transform him into Devil Daigo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:40:24 2010 No.6153604 >>6153578 Need to clear him ;_; What if I have him turned back. Would it be safe to get Kaguya then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 19:46:24 2010 No.6153633 >>6153604 Yes, but you can't clear her then.

Anonymous Sat Sep 18 23:15:24 2010 No.6154547

What? You mean if I don't try to trigger his character stuff, Diago's going to get killed? I haven't used the guy much yet, but it'd suck to lose him after sinking time and effort into him.

I don't get how the levelling up or stats work though. When I get exp from a fight, is it split evenly with everyone?

Why do I sometimes get random level ups at the beginning of the turn?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 18 23:38:24 2010 No.6154662 >>6154547 What the fuck are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:15:24 2010 No.6155536 Bump

Nanaya !yrBrqfF1Ew Sun Sep 19 02:30:24 2010 No.6155593

>>6154547
Don't fully understand what you are trying to say... but I'll answer the best I can.

If you turn Daigo into Devil Daigo, Kaguya will kill him. If you want to full clear Daigo you need to turn him into Devil Daigo(Third star), which will get him killed if you have Kaguya or recruit Kaguya. The only solution if you want to full clear Daigo and have Kaguya is transform him as soon as you can and then wait until he reverts before recruiting Kaguya. He will be Devil Daigo until he fights in 20 battles, so get to it if you want to clear him and have both.

I don't know about exp split

You randomly get a level up if they gained more exp than is required and the extra exp is enough for another level, since a character can only level one time a turn.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:32:24 2010 No.6155604

>>6154547
How to kill off Daigo:
1. Turn him into Devil Daigo
2. Wait no less than 20 fights involving him (barring dungeons)...
3. ... while recruiting Kaguya in Transylannia post-Nightmare Eyes defeat
4. Sit back and watch as Kaguya does her thing.

Also, if you DO get Daigo into 20 fights, he depower into normal Daigo, but he'll retain some of his Devil mode bonuses.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:39:24 2010 No.6155622 >>6155604 ...Are you some kind of robot sent here from Alpha Centauri to learn English? You need more RAM.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:39:24 2010 No.6155623

So, I noticed with Misugi (the blonde haired girly-man) that his 2nd 3rd and 4th stars each give an additional 1000 BP? But, he has to be stationed in Nagoya to get your first 1000, which is NPI territory. If I station him there, will they go to war against me or will I be safe?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:41:24 2010 No.6155625 >>6155623 Couldn't you just take 15 seconds to test this yourself? Or read the in-game FAQ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:55:24 2010 No.6155657 >>6155623 japan's image of how all frenchman their country is. girly, expensive, not really all that useful. not that far from truth.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 02:57:24 2010 No.6155668 >>6155657 Misugi has nothing to do with the French. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ry%C5%8Dtar%C5%8D_Sugi

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:14:24 2010 No.6155773 Does Iori have a H scene? Please tell me she does...

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:19:24 2010 No.6155807 >>6155773 Two.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:25:24 2010 No.6155841 >>6155807 Really? Hers aren't collected in the gallery...

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:28:24 2010 No.6155857 >>6155841 >>6155807 Nevermind. Well, I see only one there

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:29:24 2010 No.6155862 >>6155841 ...What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:33:24 2010 No.6155882 >>6155841 >I used a saved game to unlock all the CGs and have no idea what I'm doing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 03:52:24 2010 No.6155955 >>6155882 Except I know exactly what I'm doing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 04:15:24 2010 No.6156068 >>6155955 Evidence would indicate otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 05:23:24 2010 No.6156421 >>6156068 I don't see how initially overlooking a girl makes me not know what I'm doing... It's not like I didn't find her scenes already

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 08:03:24 2010 No.6157020 >>6156421 Suppose because the scene in question happens every game and fairly early on after take on NPI

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 08:05:24 2010 No.6157023 >>6156421 She has two scenes. In the first she gets fucked by a woman wearing a strap on. In the second Rouga fucks her and Senna.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sun Sep 19 09:15:24 2010 No.6157110 I'm on hard mode and got to National, and triggered the events for building curry houses. However, I am unable to build any building. Do I have to do something first or is hard mode really THAT hard that you can't build things?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 09:16:24 2010 No.6157111 >>6157110 you have to talk to the construction company

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 12:16:24 2010 No.6157558

...I give up. I think I fucked up too much here. I have to deal with defending Shinjuku every turn while the PGG won't stop sending troops. At the same time, I don't have enough units to get the most BP out of my territories.

Do I need to suppress all the red buildings in a territory to stop enemies from appearing every turn?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 12:19:24 2010 No.6157566 >>6157558 If you border a territory which they have troops then they will attack you every turn.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sun Sep 19 12:22:24 2010 No.6157586

>>6157558
...did you miss the part where the game told you to NOT go after Shinjuku? You should only do it when you have spare time to get Touma, or spare units to grind zombies. If not, stop trying to keep territories that are unnecessary. Sacrifice Dream Land, ect, if you need to...unless you join the Haniwa cult, in which case you get good free generic range units every couple of turns who have 0 pay cost and always highest loyalty.

Also, you never even had to fight against PGG until turn 11. Just go back to an earlier save if you need to.

Bottom line: stop trying to be too aggressive if you can't maintain a large enough army

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 12:29:24 2010 No.6157615

>>6157586

Yes I did. I decided to be ambitious about it and went after that. Guess it was a mistake. Should I just abandon it now that I have Touma and Youki in the prison?

The set time limit makes me nervous that if I don't try to grab everything I can, I'll end up losing due to it.

So it's not necessary to take over everything then? Maybe I should just abandon Dreamland. Dealing with those Hannies are geting annoying.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sun Sep 19 12:38:24 2010 No.6157654

>>6157615
Unfortunately, if you started dealing with the Hannies...then you are enslaved and can never break free. On the plus side, you get lots of free units that are superior to the otherwise-recommended girls in every way and have 0 upkeep in either BP or loyalty, but you MUST keep dreamland to keep attending the cult. Or they will KILL YOU. Rouga's badassness is no match for the hanniness of the hannies. But on the bright side you will keep getting those free units which will also help get income, but are more useful than girls.

Get rid of places like Hawaii and other no/low pay places that you can't maintain at the moment though like Forestland.

How did you get Touma in prison? I recruited him by talking to him 3 times in the events; never fought him.

Anyways once you have him and maybe Youki, just abandon Shinjuku.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sun Sep 19 12:40:24 2010 No.6157660

>>6157615
Nope, you don't have to take over independent areas. You eventually have to take over shinjuku again...for the final boss dungeon. So till then, don't bother unless you want to grind zombies for exp, because they will continue appearing (until they're replaced by worse monsters).

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 12:42:24 2010 No.6157670

>>6157654

So if I give up Dreamland I'll end up getting a BAD END somewhere down the line?

I meant that I got Touma to join me and I currently have Youki in the prision.

And if I end up taking an area that borders another faction, does that mean I just triggered another fight somewhere down the line? If so, I'm just going to focus on getting to Shizouka or whatever to get that event with the pres.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 12:46:24 2010 No.6157681 >>6149805 I'm wondering the same thing actually. I just got wind that this was translated since I'm a slowpoke and like to know where it is too. Is the higher res version even compatible with the english patch?

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sun Sep 19 12:50:24 2010 No.6157696

>>6157670
If you're already an enslaved member of the cult, than yes. You could go back to a save where you didn't join, or decide to be a proud member of the cult. I mean, free superior generic units aren't bad; it's just that you're forced to keep getting them, but they have no cost attached and you don't have to worry about loyalty either. Plus you do get 2 cg scenes from the cult. I only got the first one. Uh, not exactly a sex scene at all...hannies being hannies with their girl.

If you're trying like a prostitute to hook up with Kaen to get her 500 bp sex bonus, know that you can't get her until turn 65+. She's naturally supposed to be an endgame thing so poor Sanae doesn't get outdated too fast.

As long as you don't place units on another faction's territory, you're neutral. Bordering areas are ok. They will eventually declare war on you, but till then you're golden. Don't push it if you aren't ready. Also, don't worry about the 100 turn too much, as beating the game shouldn't be too much of a problem-it's more a restriction on what character clear events, dungeons, ect you want to get done, since you probably can't do everything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 13:06:24 2010 No.6157756 >>6157696 I'm not a member of any cult yet, so I guess I'll be fine leaving Dreamland alone. I don't even know who Kaen is right now.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sun Sep 19 13:16:24 2010 No.6157782 >>6157756 She's the student union president. What were you saying about Shizuouka?

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 13:28:24 2010 No.6157840

Any way to skip the school phase? I know this sounds stupid, but I spent my BP training the mental ability of some random idiot on my team by accident, and now I'm unable to attack.

I don't want to play the school stuff all over again sooo...

Savegame or something, please? Not trying to impose myself, of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 13:37:24 2010 No.6157894 >>6157840 it's called making multiple save files

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Sun Sep 19 13:39:24 2010 No.6157910 >>6157840 You should make a different save file every single turn.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 13:52:24 2010 No.6157986

>>6157894
>>6157910

Yeah, I guess it was my inability to do the very basic. Sorry about that.

I actually had to restart this game three time already. The first time my time ran out and that bancho guy raped and killed everyone in the school or something.

Then I tried to do everything as fast as possible and got the MC killed.

And when I finally get through everything, this happens. I suck.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:07:24 2010 No.6158061 Are savegames from the old version compatible to the 800x600 version?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:13:30 2010 No.6158086 Can somebody link the torrent to 800x640 version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:14:24 2010 No.6158091 Can somebody link the torrent to 800x600 version.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:16:24 2010 No.6158102 >>6158091 >>6158061 There is a 800x600 version?!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:17:24 2010 No.6158106 >>6158091 >>6158061 >I have no idea what I'm talking about and you can't stop me!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:17:24 2010 No.6158110 >>6158102 No. Just an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:21:24 2010 No.6158130 >>6158106 >>6158110 see >>6149805

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:23:24 2010 No.6158141 >>6158110 >>6158106 Joke is on you, bro. This torrent is 3.5 GB compared to the old version at 1.5 GB.....

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:24:24 2010 No.6158145 >>6158130 The 2009 version didn't have updated resolutions, you twat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:25:24 2010 No.6158153 >>6158141 Link to torrent?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:26:24 2010 No.6158157 >>6158145 What are the updates then if any?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 19 14:28:24 2010 No.6158169 >>6158157 There aren't. It wasn't an update. It was a budget release. It's the same fucking DVD without a box/manual/bonus crap. Fucking Google it. Oh right, you can't read Japanese. You just make assertions based on bullshit.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 23:29:24 2010 No.6158318

Can someone please explain to me what the big fuss about PGG's tanks was about ingame? By the time they showed up (turn 7) Rouga could one-shot them and they couldn't hit him half the time, as well as a range of characters able to two-shot them and dodge/tank their attacks. I think I used Asakura's ability once and that just helped me capture Takeshi.

Anonymous Sun Sep 19 23:51:24 2010 No.6158403

>>6158318
The tanks make it much harder for you to train some of your newer/weaker characters, effectively hurting you in the long run. By forcing you to use Rouga, Kuga, etc. in more and more of those battles, it restricted how many other units gained XP. It helps your already strong characters stronger and your weaker characters weaker.

That's my guess, anyways.

On another note, I know I have to wait for the Flaming Faggots to take Igarashi's new independent country before I can get her, but what about Kaen? Should I wait for them to take over her as well, or just take her beforehand?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 00:03:24 2010 No.6158469 >>6158403 Oh, I see. I was busy using my newer/weaker character to farm xp in Shinjuku anyway (or deploying them where they could help against non-tanks) so I lost nothing really. I suppose I can see how it might cause problems, though.

Nanaya !yrBrqfF1Ew Mon Sep 20 00:08:24 2010 No.6158495

>>6158318
It's more that you only have a limited amount of characters who can kill them comfortably when you are defending as well as attacking. You either use that turns attack to wipe out the leftovers and not be able to attack, or you use that turns attack to conquer more and in turn that territory will be under attack by renewed forces.

You can blitz through PGG and have no problem with the tanks, but if you take long then you will really start to hurt. I remember the time when I tried to conquer Shinjuku and get Youki while I was at war with PGG and I couldn't manage, had to reload to before I fought with Shinjuku.

Or at least that's how I see it.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 00:21:24 2010 No.6158544

Tanks have good Hit for long range and do decent damage. Most characters are going to take damage from fighting them, so they have the tendency to wear you down really fast.

They're also harder to deal with in Hard Mode. They deploy in groups of six instead of three. It's just painful attrition though. Still not hard to get around with a rush before attrition really starts to hurt, but Yuma's definitely a lot more useful in dealing with them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 01:27:24 2010 No.6158796 Anyone know exactly what the 'instructor' from the "Tiger's Lair" does? Does she increase experience gain? Or actually 'train' your units?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 01:31:24 2010 No.6158820 >>6158796 Perhaps the trainer has something to do with training.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 01:37:24 2010 No.6158851 >>6158820 Oh, really? Never woulda guessed... I mean, is there any noticeable benefit Did it a couple of turns ago and still haven't seen anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 01:52:24 2010 No.6158929 >>6158851 Not very perceptive, are you? Ever wondered why you couldn't select the second level of training?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 02:31:24 2010 No.6159068 >>6158544 Tanks are to easy once you get Yuma though and considering you can get her 2 turns after tanks start coming it's no trouble at all really. In fact you can grind alot off the tanks as she brings there hit down to 0.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 04:46:24 2010 No.6159494

Ugh, what are some good tactics in the final Holy Flame showdown? This is the craziest yet, with so many high stat enemies, but the multiple black Rougas have 170+ hit and 110ish attack, in addition to all the boss units and strong enemies. Anti-machine is no good against such high hit rate. The only thing that can one-shot the Rougas is my own Wolf Fang, but that obviously needs to be preserved. What's the best way to not have to sacrifice good characters?

Wish I still Sanzo this playthrough as he'd be able to take care of a lot of them...

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 04:58:24 2010 No.6159526

>>6159494
Obviously depends on your party. Give Kunagi the weakness erasing item to let her fight decently for starters. If you have characters that can reduce counter, bring them to every fight. A high level Saito should be able to dodge most everything they have too and he also has a ton of stamina. Give someone strong the Gloomy Mask. Rouga probably doesn't need it for Jeanne. Abuse Kuga's skill like always.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 05:11:24 2010 No.6159549 I am so disappointed that I can't recruit/save any of the Snakes/Faggots. . . I REALLY would have liked to get some of the Snakes to help me fight those Flaming Faggots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 05:22:24 2010 No.6159581 File: 149 KB, 1024x768, 627830.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mishio is loev.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 05:33:24 2010 No.6159609 >>6159581 Yes. Much loev. But....But.....DAMN YOU FLAMING FAGGOTS!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 05:33:24 2010 No.6159611 So I guess if you want to clear Cleo you need to ignore Tottori completely before finishing the PGG? Because I di her event but didn't invade and didn't get the second star. I have all her others though and it pisses me off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 05:36:24 2010 No.6159619 >>6159611 Yep. And you also had to do the "Truce with Tottori" event, or whatever it was called, if I'm not mistaken. Can't set foot in there until the PGG is gone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 05:58:24 2010 No.6159670 >>6159619 I don't think that you do. I completely forgot about it and Cleo got her star after I just ignored her region for a couple turns because I was mopping shit up elsewhere.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 05:58:24 2010 No.6159671 >Look on character list for NPI >See no Benkei >Get sad >Beat NPI >See Yunazawa Kei >Get glad

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 06:31:24 2010 No.6159722 Hey /jp/, what is going on with unit types? The faw says they make a difference, but I don't really understand the interface.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 06:46:24 2010 No.6159749
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>>6159722
Every unit has a weakness (can be erased with some items). Units can be strong against any or all of the six types. A type advantage means that the unit gains +30 Hit, +30 Evd, and +30 Counter. Two units can both be strong against each other, which means the net change in the battle is that both gain +30 counter.

In the image, Vandain is mechanical with strengths against mechanical, magical, and demon. The vampire is a demon with a strength against normal. Vandain has a type advantage, so he'll get +30 Hit, Evd, and Counter if he attacks.
500 hours in MS Paint

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:02:24 2010 No.6159778 >>6159749 Thanks anon, It's not as complicated as I thought.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:14:24 2010 No.6159804 Who is the green haired girl who has lot of CGs in gallery and how do I get her? She is not listed on the wiki.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:21:24 2010 No.6159817 >>6159804 by lots do you mean two?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:22:24 2010 No.6159818 Hey phaggots, anyone here have a new game + save for this? I finished it before, but lost the save.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:23:24 2010 No.6159821 The only girl I can recall that has even remotely green hair would be Sanae.... Scratch that, do you mean Mizuki?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:27:24 2010 No.6159825 >>6159818 >im bad lemme get your save so i can seem like im good

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:28:24 2010 No.6159830 >>6159749 Does counter even do anything? I haven't seen a single counter-attack in the whole game so far, and I've just taken out the NPI.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:37:24 2010 No.6159855

>>6159830

Uh, I find that extremely hard to believe. Counter in this game is for continuing on with your planned assault.

Say you send in Senna against a long ranged attacker. Senna's evasion is non-existent, so she will be hit by the attack. This is where Coutner comes into play. If her Counter rating is high, she has a better chance of continuing on with her planned attack.
If her Counter rating is low (Which it is most definitely not, but this is just for examples sake), however, she will have a much higher chance of NOT continuing her attack.

Counter in this game doesn't mean actually counterattacking someone that already attacked you. It just means following through with your attack even if you're hit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:43:24 2010 No.6159875 File: 225 KB, 640x480, ALCG0000.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6159817 >>6159821

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:47:24 2010 No.6159889 >>6159855 So, counter has nothing to do with countering, then. Why the fuck is it called "counter"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:47:24 2010 No.6159890 File: 17 KB, 405x289, 1284958562919.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6159875

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:49:24 2010 No.6159899 >>6159889 Well, what would you call it? I can't think of another word that would fit for it, really. That, and blame the Japs. THEY made it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:50:24 2010 No.6159903 >>6159899 Maybe something like "guts" or "stubbornness"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:57:24 2010 No.6159930 >>6159889 >>Counter >To meet or return (a blow) by another blow. >To move or act in opposition to; oppose >To offer in response A counter is more of a response thing. If you thought some kind of negation was a requirement then that's wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 07:59:24 2010 No.6159936 >>6159930 >A counter is more of a response thing. Exactly. In BBA, counter is an "ignore" thing, not a response.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 08:03:24 2010 No.6159945

>>6159936
>In BBA, counter is an "ignore" thing, not a response.
What? No, that's not it.
They take a hit, and they continue with giving one of their own.
That's a response.

Not continuing doing their thing is not a response, and therefore no counter, aka a failed one.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 08:07:24 2010 No.6159961

>>6159945
No, you are wrong.

They attack, and are hit along the way. Rather than responding to that hit by stopping, they simply ignore it and carry on with the attack they were planning to make.

If they were not going to attack, but did in response to being hit, then it would be a counter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 08:11:24 2010 No.6159971 File: 1.71 MB, 733x599, 1279143196431.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>6159961 Check! How will Black handle this counterattack made by White?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 08:32:24 2010 No.6159999

>>6159961
You see, when hit their movement stops, and they are stopped/immobalized.
By doing nothing they won't continue as they have been stopped. If they have the power to do it they can however take another action as their response in order to attack.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 08:35:24 2010 No.6160010 What type of bonus does a character get in new games when it's cleared?

>>	All day !jCOMomijIM Mon Sep 20 08:36:24 2010 No.6160013 >>6159971 you've met a terrible fate haven't you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 08:41:24 2010 No.6160033 >>6160010 Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe any stars you cleared are kept. I'm pretty sure the bonuses from the stars are also added immediately to the character. I'm not exactly sure though.

>>	El Inquisidor !BernFAQk3E Mon Sep 20 08:50:24 2010 No.6160047 >>6159971 >>6160013 You have destroyed the memories from my past, when I was a child and I used to play Zelda on my N64. Fucking idiots from /x/! You shouldn't have done that!

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 08:52:24 2010 No.6160050
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>>6158145
>>6158169
This Anon appears to be correct. It's the same game at same resolution.

>>6158153
>>6158141
Only difference is that .iso has an additional huge file called "大番長DM.dat", which appears to be nothing more than a waste of space. (It's probably just a padding file used to make game data sit on the outer edge of the disc for faster reading)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 09:16:24 2010 No.6160113 >>6159494 >but the multiple black Rougas I don't know what you did differently, but they only threw 1 Rougabot at me, and he was ridiculously easily dealt with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:27:24 2010 No.6160707 >>6159889 >>6159899 >>6159903 >>6159930 >>6159936 >>6159945 Counter is the right word for it. Not everyone could be shizuru.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:33:24 2010 No.6160717

>>6159494
Not that hard if you don't suck at the game are you still in easy modo? You DO have to lvl Ryoga up (if you haven't gotten that point by this point in the game you deserve die). Do a dungeon or something.

Protip: if you're having trouble on the Ryouga vs blonde knight boss match, just give ryouga the button with +100hp. you probably don't need that if you have the wolf fang atk.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:50:24 2010 No.6160746

Is the holy flame really that hard?
I conqured all the neutral regions, set my eyes on the nightmare eyes, and then I was apparently one turn or so too late to talk with the SU, and so every nation declared war on me.

Being rather confident in my army as I plowed the district chapter as if it was nothing, I didn't care, and so I faught against all of them at the same time.
Defending against all of their attacks each and every turn netted me some increadible amounts of exp.

When it was only the Holy Flame left, 1 single nation, it was suprisingly easy actually, most of my characters could take on their armies by themselves, and my greatest characters didn't fail against their commanders one bit.

I always figured I got extra exp from being at war with everyone, but I still had a hard time figuring them being hard to fight against even so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 12:53:24 2010 No.6160751 >>6160746 not talking to the su. quality tip there bro.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:02:24 2010 No.6160773

>>6160751
If you can handle it, why not?
You can only initiate one fight a turn yourself, and there is only one event (or dungeon) in the event phase.

Unless you station people in hostile regions only for them to counter attack, then there won't be more battles a turn other than your attack, their attack, and an eventual dungeon if you didn't feel another event was more important.
They are slower to regain their defending forces than they are assempling their attack forces, so being attacked grants you more experience.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:08:24 2010 No.6160791

>>6160773

I'm always at a loss when I have a territory under attack while also trying to conquer an area.

Do you guys think it would be better to suppress the area I'm defending first and then move onto the offensive?

My current plan is to leave my forces in the enemy territory and then wipe them out in the defense phase so I can get the +3 unopposed victory. During attack phase, I spend the one battle defending.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:08:24 2010 No.6160792

>>6160773
same guy from before.
I can handle it in hard mode too, i usually just invade both at the same time and maybe bottle neck one of them. It's better than letting them attack you first.

Also it's not a good tip for beginngers, the guy couldn't even handle the holy flame.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:09:24 2010 No.6160793

>>6160773
I find this all very dubious. How exactly did you have the manpower to defend against 4-5 separate attacks on your group every turn. Even if you're just playing defensive until your characters are fed out the ass, you're going to need to replenish your units heath and fatigue. I just don't see it happening with only having around 30 battle-ready characters by the time you defeat the vampires.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:12:24 2010 No.6160803

>>6160791
-don't fight more that one group if you can't handle it.
-invade places that need even # leave units to fight on area with odds especially 3's.
- don't leave units on if a lot of your areas are subject to attack

in hard modo use mario and get +3 without unopposed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:18:24 2010 No.6160812 >>6160792 >Also it's not a good tip for beginngers, the guy couldn't even handle the holy flame. Granted, but it was never really a tip. It was more of a question, I was actually a bit surprised to see people had troubles with them.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:23:24 2010 No.6160824

-invade places that need even # leave units to fight on area with odds especially 3's.

Um, what? I'm not sure what you're saying there.

- don't leave units on if a lot of your areas are subject to attack

You mean unstation units if you're under attack constantly?

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 13:27:24 2010 No.6160834

>>6160824
one method is to place units in a hostile area that takes an odd number of blocks to be conquered. when you invade an area that has no defending force you get 3 instead of 2 blocks per invasion, explaining why you would place units in an area and not attack. which saves you an attack/turn for ODD numbered areas.

This method is not as good if that area/areas leaves a lot of YOUR areas open to attack.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 13:56:24 2010 No.6160919

>>6160746
>>6160792
>>6160717
This is hard mode. Jeanne and most other things are no problem. It was the three black Rougas that got in the way. They had very high stats for everything, 84 counter, and would kill most units in 1 hit. The real critical factor is that I had to get Kuga to do more than 147 damage to one-shot them before they kill anyone.

Anyways I've beaten it now.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:08:24 2010 No.6160951

>>6160793
Let's say you have about 25 characters when the SU suggests all nations to wage war against you.
And Kanata, Youki, Saito from the neutral regions of the National chapter, a few of those "non-generic" generic type characters from the District chapter, as well as a few generics.
Erika and her groonies over the Nakanishi sisters, as the Miyazato gang grants more characters and perhaps most of all, stamina.

Stamina loss is your greatest enemy, HP and character stats is a fleeting thing as there is pretty much always something anyone can do.
That is to say, Burai also has about twice as much stamina as Kinako.

Let's say you are attacked around 5 times a turn, NE, PGG/Totori and NPI, as well as Shin-Juku.
I said around 25 units, right?
25/5 = 5
This grants you to divide the defending forces in teams up to 5, but 5 units is more than enough in fact, so you can lower that number to 4 or 3 in some areas in order to grant you numbers over, enabling you to form 6th team (for attacking).

Then you just have to keep an eye on all their stamina, 4 units to defend one region is really not necessary, you can easily let one or two of them rest occasionaly in order to regain stamina (+2 stamina a turn for units not stationed) and HP.

And that's it basically, it only gets easier from there.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:29:24 2010 No.6160979

The NPI will be easy to defend against after the first 3 areas.
Toukyou is a natural choking point, it's easy to defend against the PGG there from the beginning.
Shinjuku doesn't need more than 3-4 rotating mid range fighters.

I'm thinking of first raping the NPI back to Oosaka.
Oosaka is a great defense point, and once you get that far, you get great fighters like Shizuri, Akuu and Sae and more.

Meanwhile, I have defended against PGG and Shinjuku, which doesn't take that much resource.

Not so sure about Nightmare eyes yet. (I wonder what would happen if Nightmare eyes sends bats to Akihabara, when Akihabara is still under control of PGG....?)

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 14:49:24 2010 No.6161039 File: 95 KB, 651x530, !!.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Holy crap, who are the character in Hard Challenge 2? Just look at their stats!

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:50:24 2010 No.6161041

>>6160979
>and once you get that far, you get great fighters like Shizuri, Akuu and Sae and more.
Another good thing about getting to Oosaka first is access to the instructor in Nihon Bridge. Good thing to be able to train a lot from the beginning (if you can afford to).

And economically speaking, Oosaka is a high income area like Yokohama, definitely worth to take early.
Another good thing for the economy is that you can clear Ryoutaro faster by going for NPI first. 3000 BP for free.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:51:24 2010 No.6161049 >>6160033 You're completely wrong.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:52:24 2010 No.6161051 >>6161039 Fucking scary bitches. (who the hell are they?) One of them could own the final boss in 1 hit...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 14:55:24 2010 No.6161064 >>6161039 One looks like a character from Galzoo Island (the pink haired pirate)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:10:24 2010 No.6161118 >>6161039 >>6161051 Obviously haven't been to that dungeon where you fight alien monster thingies/ discolored shit. The background is like fucking chronotrigger final battle, multicolored rainbow shit.<-also in hard modo

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:15:24 2010 No.6161140 >>6160979 If you choose to fight against NPI first, then you will never get the transforming hero, and he is amazing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:16:24 2010 No.6161145 How high love level is needed for the girls to participate in the final battle? I know level 6 is high enough. What about 5? 4? 3?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:17:24 2010 No.6161146 >>6161064 All except the Sasori-onna have Galzoo Island counterparts too. Generic monstergirls show up in a bunch of Alicesoft games, maybe they're some of those.

Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:21:24 2010 No.6161160

>>6161140
I never said I would conquer NPI completely, I said I would conquer them until Oosaka and it it as defense point.
There's just so many advantages of rushing to Oosaka>>6161041

(plus, with Sae you can use her to increase Rouga's stamina too if you're stretched thin)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:24:24 2010 No.6161170 >>6161160 You only need to be at war with them in order to gain Sae, fighting them won't make it go any faster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:28:24 2010 No.6161183 >>6161170 Personally I think going to war with NPI just to get Sae is silly. But going all the way to Oosaka early makes a lot of sense>>6161041

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 15:46:24 2010 No.6161219 So for the final battle, Sanae and Kaen are always there? I had Sion at love 8 along with Kunagi, but the party was still the two guys and Kunagi, Sanae, and Kaen

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 15:47:24 2010 No.6161223 >>6161219 to add to this, I did not have sex with Kaen at all this playthrough so it's still at lv 1, and I had level 6 Sae as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:48:24 2010 No.6161224 >>6161219 why would it even matter? women and children. If you're not either then you won't have to worry about where they are there. Zam-men bros <--lulz they in white too are moar than enough to deal with them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:49:24 2010 No.6161225 >>6161219 No. Love level 6 characters are there. I was trying to ask earlier about the limit>>6161145 is 5, 4 or 3 enough?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:52:24 2010 No.6161235 >>6161224 Well, Sion is pretty nice to have there for her skill. She'll boost them bros while still letting them handle things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:53:24 2010 No.6161241 >>6161223 >I did not have sex with Kaen at all this playthrough so it's still at lv 1 That's weird. I clearly remember not having her participate in mine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:53:24 2010 No.6161242 Why the hell would you NOT want to have sex with Kaen??

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 15:55:24 2010 No.6161245

>>6161225
Nope, my souped up Sion was lv 8 and still didn't appear...darn.

I just overextended and lost (the boss was down to 50 too); I forgot that Rouma's wolf fang doesn't disable counter. I had been too used to Kuga as well as killing opponents with it, I guess. Silly mistake. I also overestimated my girls. Nobody else could do anything, not even Kunagi. Just 50 more damage...

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:55:24 2010 No.6161248 Fuck Kaen. Afford the occasional Hawaii trip. Then you realize that having sex with Sion for her bonus is useless... (unless you actually want her for the final battle)

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:58:24 2010 No.6161260 >>6161245 I had Sion at Level 7, and she participated. (she doesn't actually need 8 to get cleared)

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 15:58:24 2010 No.6161263

>>6161248
If you want Nina on Hard Mode, than you can't afford the vacations.

By the way, how were we supposed to get the three mischievous fairies 2.0 that only appear in hard mode? You had to buy a legendary 999 BP cost bread in District Chapter, but I don't see how it's possible to get that much BP there. No curry wolf, no reliable income, going deeper into debt. How is it done?

Also, I think this thread is on autosage. New thread time!

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 15:58:24 2010 No.6161264 Past bump limit >>6161248 You need a reason to fuck a pin haired loli maid desperate to please you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:00:24 2010 No.6161272 >>6161264 >Past bump limit Heh, I didn't even realize.

Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 16:02:24 2010 No.6161279

>>6161264
Sion is so HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG

Though I wonder why Rouga suddenly decided to make her his girl even though she didn't get it, while doesn't even have sex with Marishia, another pink haired sweet girl who actually likes him.

>>	Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp Mon Sep 20 16:11:24 2010 No.6161306 Ok, made a new thread >>6161288 Accidentally posted before actually putting any comments, but whatever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 20 16:22:24 2010 No.6161352 Best senna kuagi hibiki/saen ninja maid. Worst you don't need to do saen. curry wolf works. also you would just use cult soldiers, let all the crappy people leave, keep the good ones.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 1 15:27:09 2010 No.6161352,1 Does anyone know how to clear the 3 star event of Igarashi?, I don´t get what I do have to do

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 09:23:00 2010 No.6161352,2 [INTERNAL]

hey can someone tell me how to get kunagi's ending i made sure that i reached level 8 for her love and all the other characters except sion and senna(gone) have love levels of 3, but for some reason when i enter the hell hole i get sae's ending instead of kunagi. can someone help me by telling me the requirements for kunagi's ending and if possible how to salvage the game so i don't have to start from scratch. please i beg of someone, i really want kunagi's ending

Anonymous Sat Oct 23 09:23:30 2010 No.6161352,3 [INTERNAL]

hey can someone tell me how to get kunagi's ending i made sure that i reached level 8 for her love and all the other characters except sion and senna(gone) have love levels of 3, but for some reason when i enter the hell hole i get sae's ending instead of kunagi. can someone help me by telling me the requirements for kunagi's ending and if possible how to salvage the game so i don't have to start from scratch. please i beg of someone, i really want kunagi's ending

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