Cappa...Cappa.......Cappa....CAPITALISM, HO!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are still playing this, right?

Or are you going to let Recette end up in a box at the end of the week?

[Anonymous No.]

gonna wait for MU link

[Anonymous No.]

Sure, I'll be playing it once Sept 10th rolls around.

[Anonymous No.]

You can only play the demo so many times

[Anonymous No.]

I've been unemployed for 3 years. How in god's name am I supposed to afford $18?

[Anonymous No.]

Hoodlums have stolen your cuteness.
Are you a bad enough shopkeeper to supply someone else with weapons and food to rescue your cuteness?

[Anonymous No.]

I've played through the demo twice and am pretty happy with my progress through the first week... but god dammit, I want to play through it a few more times. Four more days. Gotta hold out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082650
Tear's gonna get all foreclosure on your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082656
Take a loan from a fairy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082656
Buy low.
Sell high.

[Anonymous No.]

Going to pirate it because I'm a poor nigger, sorry

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082650
>>6082679
Reported for illegal content.

[Anonymous No.]

Gonna pirate it too, because I don't even give a fuck.

Go home Capitalism devs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082679

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082654
>>6082655
>>6082656
>>6082657
>>6082660
>>6082668
>>6082675
>>6082676
>>6082679

sure is quick to post after topic is made 2-5 minutes apart. must be the same lots trying to promote this game.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to pirate it and won't even play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082695
GO HOME CAPITALISM DEVS

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082705

[Anonymous No.]

I'm gonna buy it!

...And then upload it to every tracker I can.

I'll get a megaupload link in a week, so keep your eyes peeled, piratefriends!

[Anonymous No.]

I cant wait to pirate this game.

>My face when i watch you suckers pay for this.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry Recette. I tried. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082729
You better deliver.

[Anonymous No.]

It looks like shit tbh, I'd rather play my shitty FF: Crystal Chronicles DS games than play this pile of junk

[Anonymous No.]

I would like to buy it and support doujins, but being stuck in a shitty country means I'll have to pirate like always.

Sorry.

Also... Recette porn where?

[Anonymous No.]

Awsome bro.

Ill have my sister make you a cake as thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082736
If she were smart she'd of declared bankruptcy.

Fuck taking your fathers debt, I'M OUT. PEACE.

[Anonymous No.]

This month's game for me will be Atelier Rorona, not this shitty rip-off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082759
What? Too much Capitalism for you?

[Anonymous No.]

I want to get it, but I also want the dungeons to run faster than 4fps.

MY COMPUTER CAN'T HANDLE THE UNBELIEVABLY COMPLEX GRAPHICAL POWERS HURRR

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082751

[Anonymous No.]

I have no credit card and I don't trust paypal, so sorry doujin industry but it's Pirating, Ho! for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082810
>I don't trust paypal
What a shitty excuse, the system is safe don't blame them if you're a moron and get keyloggers and shit on your PC.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

I'll pirate it because burgoise game. And because of that comment on piracy.

[Nanaya !yrBrqfF1Ew No.]

>>6082810
>>6082903
It is quite a poor excuse. Just say it like this, pirate anon.

I'm going to pirate it because I want to pirate it.

If you are gonna be a pirate you gotta go all the way, pirate anon!

[Anonymous No.]

Let's ask Yahtzee to review Recettear.

[Anonymous No.]

18 DOLLARS is nothing, I could fucking waste 10 euros in a single mc d's visit if I wanted

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082810

Oh christ, you don't need a fucking credit card, a fucking visa electron is enough and ANYONE can get one of those

[Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE No.]

This thread is full of under aged faggots who can't afford an $18 game.

The devs have stated that the story mode is 15-20 hours long, and there's more stuff to do even after the story is done. Also there's extra modes after you complete everything, including the infinite mode that goes on forever.

Most new games are only 8-13 hours long and cast FAR more than $18. Oh and they have overpriced DLC on top of that full price tag as well.

So stop being such faggots and actually buy a game that deserves it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083082
No

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083082

Personally, I bookmarked the site for later consideration. If it's really good, I'll buy it.
Over the last 60 days, I've spent over 3k on games and movies, so what's an extra $18?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083082
GO HOME CAPITALISM DEV

[Anonymous No.]

so, is this better than Ys?

[Ludelia !q1CmN/yaD2 No.]

I played the hell out of this game for months at a time back when it was in japanese, and even I don't think it's worth 20$. Gonna wait for a sale or yknow, the even cheaper option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083082
some of us need those 18$ to buy crack

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083082
I played the hell out of this game for months at a time back when it was in japanese, and even I don't think it's worth 20$. Gonna wait for a sale or yknow, the even cheaper option. Twenty dollars for a doujin game that most people will only play once (so about 5-8 hours of gameplay if they even finish it). Yeahhh, no chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083143
Hence OP's image

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083143

Recent games cost 50 dollars+ and possibly offer less content, even if you think "it's not worth 20 dollars" 20 dollars is still nothing no matter what you say. I've bought LOADS of things which cost far more and were a lot shittier

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083165
And that's your fault for buying them. Just because you bought a horrible game for a ridiculous price because you didn't research the game before purchasing isn't an excuse for a game not worth the price.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083082
You shut your whore mouth and get out. Such behavior might be acceptable on /v/ or whatever shithole you come from but not here.

As if I'd pay for that shitty translation you viral morons are all flaunting about when I'd rather just purchase the original and "support who actually deserves it". Dipshits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6082736
Fuck... If I ever lose in this game I'm going to end up bawwing like a motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083171

Oh you, stop being such an autistic child. The fact that games cost 50 dollars nowadays is normal, I call a 18 dollar game a bargain, no matter how little it has content. People pay 50 dollars for those shitty games cause people consider it normal and even 50 dollars isn't that much, it's only much if you are underaged leecher at your parents place

[Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE No.]

>>6083165
>>6083171
Today the industry is flooded with shitty dull overpriced games.

Because of this, I am refusing to buy any games from major developers, except a select few. I have been looking at indie games more and more.

Killing Floor is a perfect example. $20 game that I easily put over 300 hours on it. Does the game have a lot of content? Not really, but it has a working formula that keeps you playing.

And it just so happens that I enjoy reccettear's formula.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083178

And you sure don't belong in /jp/ seeing your behavior, so go back to /b/ or whereever you crawled here from

[Satorin Komeiji !!OrV90QMlGMv No.]

>>6083178
That's quite a counter argument to use against a well-thought out argument, or should I say...

U MAD?

I plan on getting this. Haven't played the demo yet but it looks like a good time waster when I am bored of everything else.

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083190
Or it's a lot, if you know, you're supporting yourself and are right on money. There's a reason I don't buy a lot of games, and that's because they're expensive (and by that I mean they're more than they're worth. If I have a mind blowingly amazing game, I'll say it's worth 50). Recettear is one of those in my book.

[Anonymous No.]

No thanks, I already beat the original when it came out. Plus I think I spent too much on ktc books this month.

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083192
Killing Floor has replay value, multiplayer, lots of maps, lots of classes and offers a wide variety of places to fight in along with different strategies in these places.

Recettear has maybe a handful of maps, no multiplayer, different classes with SLIGHTLY different playing styles and it's the same strategy. I bought killing floor because it was worth 20$, this is not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083203

You must be living in russia or something if you really are that tight on money, you are on /jp/ where people waste hundreds and hundreds of euros / dollars / whatever on figures

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083216

Well tell us your amazing formula on how you count whether a game is worth the money or not, what are you to say whether game is worth the money or not

[Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE No.]

>>6083216
Some people might enjoy the endless mode though.

I would like to give it a try, the dungeon grinding was pretty fun in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

i hate to say this but 18-20 dollars is the norm in japan for these kind of games. Is it a bargain? No not really..it is priced at market value.

you can't dispute getting the game for free (by pirating) is a superior bargain.

only an idiot would pass a "free" offer.

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083221
Wait why was my post deleted...? As I was saying, I don't have that money. Sorry I don't have a ton of disposable income like the rest of you (Yeah, right)

But my post before it was deleted, in summary, was saying that I'll admit if a game is worth the 50$ or however much it is. Recettear is not.

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083230
Had no idea enjoying the game for more than 10 hours, having lots of content and having friends to play with was a formula.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083242

Sure you can admit what you want, but the fact is that your opinions are wrong and ignored.

If you got to shittiest job available at a normal country, pay your rent, internet, food etc you should still have like 500~ euros over to do anything you want, whether it's drinking or buying games or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

Already have the jap version so fuck buying it.

If it gets to be 5$ or so and I can install it multiple times and places, I might buy it later and install it on as many people's computers as want. If it can only be installed on one computer then fuck it forever.

[Anonymous No.]

Are we really fighting over how one should spend less than $20?

People use that petty money for shit fast food every day and i don't see you people wrecking their shit because of how they choose to use their money. Why should it apply here? If they found the demo enjoyable then let them choose to buy/pirate it. The choice lies with them, not to you fucks who are trying to justify your own choices.

Even still, this is chump change. Even if you're dirt poor in the city, i bet you can find $20 within a few hours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083250

Well if you are talking about fun / hour / cost, then let's say for example billiards costs like 10 euros / hour, so it's like 80 euros cheaper for 10 hours of fun, next argument

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083255
Yeah I dunno what country you live in, but that's BS :s I chuckled at your butthurt "your opinion is wrong" comment by the way.

[Anonymous !4changtcqk No.]

Buying it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083264

Want me to do the calculations for you about how you can have 500 over every month after living expenses?
That is assuming you get 8€ / hour which you get at shittiest job available in your area, remember SHITTIEST

[Anonymous No.]

I'll start buying games when I get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083264

If you care about getting most fun out of least cash, download dwarf fortress for free and waste years on it like real basement dwelling nerd

[Anonymous No.]

The translation is great. A small portion of the sales goes to the translators. The translators would like to translate more games if this sells well.

Buy it, you fags.

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

>>6083272
Go for it. I live in America, by the way. And before you start with any hurr durr about it, I don't have the same luxurious prices or chance to leave, by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

So, is it just me or are the game mechanics involved in selling kinda dull? I guess it'll get a little more interesting as my merchant level goes up, but so far it's just about picking a varied selection of items when buying, and when selling, first offer it for 135% and then 125%. Really routine stuff. Am I missing something?

[Anonymous No.]

>Atelier Rorona
>This game

Fuck it I'm getting both.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083308

Recettear already bought and Rorona pre ordered

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083272
That's like twice the shittiest job in america

[Anonymous No.]

IMHO this game is worth $8.99. The game is decent but it is not herbal essence.

[None !OSakaQCVow No.]

>>6083291
>I live in America
>I don't have the same luxurious prices
What? Everything you have is cheap as fuck. Our PS3's cost twice yours.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry I'm not going to pay for something I can get free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083323

And if you are applefag which I aint, you pay 1500€ for an ipad here or 900€ for iphone 4g, dunno if those are correct since as I said I'm not an applefag

Oh and games we pay 60_EUROS_ for most console games

[Anonymous No.]

I'll buy it next month and pirate it on release day.

[Hatsune Miku !MIKUiqnw0. No.]

>>6083082
I'll buy it when they feel like writing a formal apology to the author and actually bothering to properly localize the fucking product without their shitty translations.

Oh wait, I've already hit end-game and stashed it. ww

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083308
Capitalism, ho!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083338

This is why gaming scene is full of Activisions nowadays, only decent gaming companies being like Firaxis games since Civ series have loyal non-underaged fans who actually buy their games

[Ludelia !EtyA847XnU No.]

Wow it's almost as if you get $2.50 more an hour and your living expenses aren't as terribad if his calculations of having 500€ left over a month is true!
The apple stuff I have no idea, to be honest. You guys are just bumfucked there, but it's apple. Why would you even consider it in any country?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083289
I'd prefer they not translate anything else. It's full of stupid added unfunny jokes and "goofy" lines.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!4kI2ajBUI8D No.]

I want to gift this to someone, it's so cute.

[Anonymous No.]

capitalists builds factroy

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083364

Just an example, could list millions of things which cost here a lot more than us

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Ba.ngkok No.]

I'm playing the jap version.

Selling food.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>6083346
So it's our fault fucking retards price games at 50€ per game well 60$ in the US.

If games were 30$ a piece in Europe, people would buy like 10 a month I swear.

I wanted to buy the game R.U.S.E. and then 45€.

WELL FUCK YOU.

[Anonymous No.]

The Internet is the only place where communism works. I'm going to enjoy it no matter what those money-hungry corporations and moralfags think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083376
>Occasionally this requires a bit of creative editing as well — a lot of Recette’s sayings like “Capitalism, ho” or “Yayifications” are, technically, inventions of the localization, but they were done in order to get Recette’s boundless enthusiasm for her job across the language barrier. She absolutely loves what she does, and she drops sayings like “Yatta!” constantly, but just translating it “straight” doesn’t really get her voice across properly. She pretty much needs the “quirkiness” to get her character across in English; without it, she doesn’t come across correctly and reads far too flatly (and yes, we tried it).


and some more stuff on how/why they localized it like that here
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/09/02/carpe-fulgur-on-localizing-recettear/

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083404
Even 30€ is a lot for a welfare bum such as myself. Bring all game prices down to 10€ and I'll consider it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083404

Heh, if that 50€ tag was enough

[Anonymous No.]

How much of my $20 actually goes towards the original Japanese developers? Because I'm want to support to actual developers of the game, not the translators. I can read Japanese just fine, the only problem is that I don't know where to buy the Japanese version.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Ba.ngkok No.]

>>6083430
>I don't know where to buy the Japanese version.

The fuck?
DLsite have like every doujin games ever made.

[None !BeRNFAG7TI No.]

Already preordeded (LIKE A BOSS).

[Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE No.]

>>6083430
They didn't translate it for profits really. They translated it so they could put it on their resume.

If you didn't know goons translated this game. They basically just want to be hired by a real company and localize as a stable job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083406
Stop hyping sharing up into communism. It's more like the internet is the only place that cares about sharing, even if they primarily do it to boost their own egos. It's like a colony where a member sacrifices himself to buy something and shares it with everyone else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083417
Holy shit, they should've had these guys do the translation for dragon quest V.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083466
Free stuff is free, it doesn't matter what everyone's intentions are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083417
I don't care about their explanations. It's bullshit and I don't want their added things. Recette doesn't come off as quirky, she comes off as annoying. It's the same translator idea of how a character should act that makes its way into everything. I don't even want a literal translation. I just want them to stop adding unfunny things.

[None !8FuIlcirno No.]

>>6082643
What, Steam sells good games nowadays? Oh mai gaah!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083406
leeching =/= communism
communism implies you're contributing to the society you recieve things from. What do japanese developers and translators recieve from you? Fuck shit, that's what, you're just a leeching faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083482
>Implying they really 'added' anything

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread
>baww i´m way to stingy to pay 20 bucks for an indie-game i´m clearly going to enjoy as fuck
You guys are pathetic. How much did you spend on the countless games you played during the last year? 0$? I mean it´s one thing if you´re a shitty poorfag, but if you have money to spare, then for christ sake support Recette, motherfucker!

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083489
I contribute to doujin developers by playing their games and giving them popularity. They aren't supposed to be commercial and they shouldn't earn huge profits from it.
Translators can go fuck themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083500
They did add in some unfunny jokes. They are unfunny and make me buttmad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083430
a lot actually

here are the posts from the translators:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3329392&userid=107572

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3329392&userid=79340
oh noes, its somethingawful, it will taint our precious 4chan

>A lot like anyone else does it: we signed a contract with EGS to license the game, and they'll be getting a (quite significant) cut of retail sales. We've been working with them for months and they're actually very awesome dudes.

>We spent quite a while convincing EGS to give us a shot, and in the end settled on a contract that will be quite generous to EGS. The numbers may still change a little bit so I won't give out precise figures, but EGS will be taking home the majority of any retail sales.

[Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE No.]

>>6083523
I find it ironic that SA hates 4ch but we're promoting their game making it a commercial success.

But anyway, yeah these guys don't care about profit...They just want the credentials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083515
Doujin only means self published, not that they don't want to make money to make it big, just that they can't afford or don't want to give up rights.

The only time they shouldn't be commercially supported is when they contain other people's characters and whatnot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083518
If you're here for the comedy, then you should be butthurt.

[Anonymous No.]

>Atelier Rorona
>Killing Floor

Why are people choosing fully 3D games over this mostly 2D game, even going as far as to pick some sort of FPS /v/ title? Even if you want more mainstream, you could go for one of those 2D DS titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>They aren't supposed to be commercial and they shouldn't earn huge profits from it.

wat. I know doujin games are made by amateurs for fun, but I really don't think they would mind making money off of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083531
If you find it so ironic, go back to SA and stop viral marketing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083531
I'd say getting the game on steam did more than we could ever do for promoting the game

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083523
>EGS will be taking home the majority of any retail sales
reminds me one the anime industry. You want to license a series OUTSIDE of glorious nippon? Well give us 70% and see how you manage to sell the overpriced dvd´s on the american/european market

[Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE No.]

>>6083534
because the comparison was that it's an indie game.

graphics do not matter.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Ba.ngkok No.]

SA is like 4chan with forced tripcode and less freedom so yeh

[Clannad !A7W/F.LWIE No.]

>>6083543
I don't even like SA. They're a bunch of elitist assholes who circlejerk on their own shitty pay forum.

[Anonymous No.]

I live on ~300$/month, fuck your buying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083509
I bought plenty of games that were worth buying. Kirby Super Star Ultra, Sword of the Stars and all its expansions in that package deal, Infinite Space, etc.

Doujin games aren't as good as real games and shouldn't cost as much.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Ba.ngkok No.]

>>6083550
japs can't understand how global market works
its been proven times and times already
just give up

[Anonymous No.]

35k at last
8th day and 35k!
at fucking last!

[Anonymous No.]

Aside from the massive butthurt i'm detecting in this thread, how do i get Charme's card? I don't think i've seen her ONCE

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083567
i get 900€ only for playing computer all day and studying a bit for exams at the end of the semester. feels good man

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083537
Art (games included) should be free no matter what. Should I ever decide to do something useful instead of lurking /jp/ all day, I'd share my creations with everyone, for free. Donations are another thing but even that is pushing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083592
I didn't say I feel bad though.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmm.. I'm wondering, how rage-filled and nuts whole world would go if one day someone spots "Team Shanghai Alice" in publishers lists in Steam, with fan translations in games and 10€ price tag on each game.

I think ZUN would be killed and everything beautiful in this world would cease to exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083259

You can install games on Steam anywhere you please with a Steam account.

So if you buy it and reformat your computer the day off, you're just a short download away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083567
And here I thought living on 400€/month (after rent and electricity) was hard.

[Anonymous No.]

Not paying more than $5 for a digital download. You don't see (sane) people charging for flash games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083601
Art is never free. Even fine art is commissioned by someone and then everyone else has to pay a mandatory "donation" to see it in a museum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083601
Art is not free. No one became an artist to promote it for free. They sell to galleries or collectors and take commissions. Do you think chapels were painted for shits and giggles?

Industries are bad because they do is package kitsch and sell it to the masses while only caring about profits, but don't pretend art is done only for the love of it.

If it's a hobby sure, but anyone who wants to call themselves a circle, group, or company is not doing it to give it away for free.

[Anonymous No.]

yatta

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083634
>Download
No. I don't want to install cancer on everyone's computers. I want to download it, put it on a disk, and use that disk whenever and wherever I please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083642
>flash
If this was translated and released on any digital distributer, you would buy it, admit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083656
>steam
should be there too

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083660
My image was dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083656
I can just image you playing eroge on public libraries or something because you can't afford your own computer. What a true idiot bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083601
i hope you enjoy living in a box under a bridge

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083670
I honestly don't care about the story, and I'd rather it be on DS. Game hurts my mousing hand.

[Anonymous No.]

Mighty fine game ye gots thar...

[Anonymous No.]

Its pretty simple guys. Your choices are thus:

Buy the game:
- More incentive for doujin game makers translate their stuff.
- Doujin game makers get a new market and more money, funding not only more translations, but more original games by those groups as well, potentially saving dying groups.

Pirating/Not Buying:
- You show that the western market isn't worth the time.
- Doujin groups don't translate their stuff
- We have to wait months to years for a game/VN translation, even if the game is very popular.
- Original company might even C&D translation efforts, meaning you NEVER get a translated version.
- Original company might even die off.

Sure hope you know Japanese, pirate-fags.

It's 20 bucks for a (as far as I can tell) passable to good translation of a good game. Standard price for games in the US is 40 - 60, and they usually end up disappointing horribly. I pirated this game way back when it was first released, and you know what? I'm going to be buying it. I showed it to two of my friends who had never even seen it before and generally hate doujin games. And you know what? They are buying it. Thats kind of how capitalism works. There's a saying you know: "Vote with your money". Do you really want to be voting no to official translations of doujin games? Isn't that what we've been wanting for the last fucking decade?

I mean fuck, I pirate games too, but only when I can't legitimately get the fucking thing in english.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083656

Oh god no not a handy application that gets me near instant access to every game I own from it and even has started keeping all saves and settings whatever will I doooooooooooooooooooooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083601
Patronage always served the arts better than capitalism. Whoever thought that intellectual rights would be enough to encourage creativity is an idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083729
Most people who pirated do know Japanese and played the original version.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Ba.ngkok No.]

>>6083729
Pirates will pirate, deal /w it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083738
It also takes up a whole gig of space. Not everyone has huge hard drives. Seriously, a program that doesn't actually do anything should not take up as much space as a Windows XP initial installation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083642

Flash games also don't take hundreds to thousands of man hours to make, asshat.

[Anonymous No.]

>More incentive for doujin game makers translate their stuff.
Whoopty-do. Most of it is shit. I can't WAIT to have more shitty games come over.

>Doujin game makers get a new market and more money, funding not only more translations, but more original games by those groups as well, potentially saving dying groups.
Those games are developed to be sold at Comiket and the like. Our buying them has no bearing whatsoever on the makers.


>You show that the western market isn't worth the time.
The games are made by and for Japanese. The western market cares more about havign them than they do about exporting them, and in a lot of cases they can't have and don't want their games to be exported where they can be judged by foreigners with different laws.

>Doujin groups don't translate their stuff
They wouldn't anyway until some westerner got interested, probably by having pirated it to begin with since there's no way to know about it otherwise.

>We have to wait months to years for a game/VN translation, even if the game is very popular.
And when it's done, it has no censorship and loli routes intact.

>Original company might even C&D translation efforts, meaning you NEVER get a translated version.
>implying they can't translate it more secretly

>Original company might even die off.
You can't kill off a group of people doing it primarily for the fun, only reduce it to its core components. Making games is not their day job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083750
No it doesn't

steam itself only takes up a few MB, but it downloads all games into the steam folder

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083729
More like:

Buy the game
-You lose 20$ which you could have donated to starving children in Africa or bought alcohol with. Whatever suits you.
-The group may or may not make a new game and someone may or may not translate it. Your 20$ don't mean shit.

You pirate the game:
-You get to enjoy a good game. For free. What else could you ask for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083758
You would be surprised how much effort people put into these things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083738
I don't want any of those features. I want disks I can install my game from instantly. If I want a backup of my saves, for whatever reason I can't fathom, I can just upload them somewhere.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Ba.ngkok No.]

>>6083763
your mixing eroge companies with doujin circles bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083750
Unless you can play straight from the disc, then you have a point. But there's not that much of a difference between disc vs download. You'll end up installing all that 'useless' gigs onto your computer anyhow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083768

ITT people trying to make massive justifications for pirating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083777
There are only three kinds of doujin circles
1: Porn
2: Touhou
3: Shit no one cares about or wants to play.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Ba.ngkok No.]

>>6083787
but doujin games are fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083787
I disagree.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083797
I don't know what that is but it looks pretty lolipornographic.

[Anonymous No.]

>I don't know what that is

That's why your opinion is void.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083834
Well, if a girl in a bikini is what qualifies as porn for you, then I guess I agree with you, everything is porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083834
>Im so new to /jp/ that it hurts.

[Snork !IR7ogMhC0s No.]

After watching a stream I don't think I'll be buying it. The whole 'capitalism' buy/sell/haggle part isn't all that enticing and the dungeon crawling is pretty mediocre.

[Anonymous No.]

The sheer anger you viral marketers seem to have towards pirates is rapidly eroding the guilt I'll experience when I pirate this.

I just don't understand why you'd think so much of /jp/ wouldm't pirate this. A conscience? Hell, when that mangagamer guy was discussing their titles on /jp/ there was a bunch of people in the same thread discussing torrents for the stuff. Having money to spend? The rare money that /jp/ does get would be better spent on food for the starving NEETs, or a visit to the gym for the fat mama's boys NEETs. Hoping more doujin games get translated? That goes against the whole sekret club mentality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083847
She is not wearing a bikini, she is wearing a leather bondage outfit stripped down to its bare minimum. She is a fetishistic character design meant to fulfill a fetish. You are blind if you do not see that.

Also if bare feet can be porn, then yes, everything is porn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083953
Not to mention, her name is apparently "lust" if the title is any indication.

[Anonymous No.]

>download anime/manga/doujins for free all the time
>"You better buy this game. Its my favorite. You suck if you don't!1! GRRRR"
LOL

[Anonymous No.]

ITT a bunch of poorfags with minimal income argue whether spending 18 dollars for X amount of hours/entertainment is worth it.

Here's an idea: get a better job than cleaning floors.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083938

Not anger man, simply stating the facts. If you want more official translations, the people that are making them need to get paid, otherwise they won't have incentive to make more.

I'm thinking you're confusing anger with common sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084007
Cleaning floors? If you have as bad social skills as /jp/ tends to have, you aren't getting a job that depends entirely on your job interview. Oh wait, every job is like that.

[Anonymous No.]

If we converted all the time we've argued about whether or not to buy it into work hours, we would have made enough money to just buy it and shut up about it.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Very funny getting lectured by /v/ Steam babbys who probably even haven't bought Suguri, Rosenkreuzstilette, Gundemonium Collection, etc.

Face it you the only reason you care about Recettear is because it's on your favorite Disney DRM distrubution platform called Steam. It's quite a shame.

If you really cared, then you wouldn't be buying it on Steam: you'd be buying it via the other methods which gives the creators more money. And you wouldn't have to deal with any DRM either in that case.

Steam, not so good.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084067

Thank you for again reiterating the fact that /jp/ is made up of juvenile plebes.

The game fucking sucks anyway, too.

[Anonymous No.]

Pirate a game first, unless you absolutely can't. If you hated it, you would never have spent the money on it. If you don't like it but don't outright hate it, you probably won't finish it, so it's essentially as if you just played a trial? If you loved it, then you should probably attempt to buy it, if for the simple fact of having a hard copy.

It's not about supporting the developers, because most developers will not give a shit about a single customer, or even twenty (usually). For me, it's having the game, or book, or whatever there in my hands, and knowing that I physically own something I really liked.

But, I'd like to add that as an aspiring writer who hopes to have work published one day, it's not about getting money. It's about having people experience and enjoy my work. I don't care if you downloaded a .txt or bought a hardback collector's edition, I just want to know if you thought it was a good read.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084125

Except unlike the world of literature, creating games takes endless hours of labour from dozens of people. They need to pay coders, artists, lawyers, advertisers, licencing fees and lots of other crap. People don't work for free in this industry and nor can they afford to work two jobs at once because PC gaming is not exactly profitable to do it full time unless you're with a big company. Indie developers are doing what they do because they love games - the same as a writer - but whereas a writer can any job and write on the side, games require a team of people, dedication and a lot of cash to risk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084176
A single book takes years of work on the part of a author. You can't downplay it because there is only one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084187
Missing the point. A game requires a team; unless the entire team shares the same vision and wants to make it purely for fun, money is required.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084067
>Implying Steam is some sort of draconic DRM

Hey bro, what's it like living in 2006?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084067
>steam
>buy a game
>able to play/access them wherever you want
>great online multiplayer service

What are you smoking bro. U jelly you have to play TF2 with hacking russians because you refuse to shell out $5 for it because typing in a password would infringe your moral values.

[Anonymous No.]

It's like I'm really on /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084328
>U jelly you have to play TF2

Look, I agree with what you're saying, but sweet merciful fuck, stop abusing that "u jelly" phrase

It is NOT interchangeable with "u mad," "u jealous," or any other variant. It is a clever /fit/ spinoff of "u mad" to refer to fat people. It is not interchangeable, it is merely derivative

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083531
4chan and SA are the same people.

[Anonymous No.]

If the Touhou games were on Steam for $20 a piece I'd buy every single one over time

[Anonymous No.]

>>6083729
>Sure hope you know Japanese, pirate-fags.
安心しろ、何とか読めるさ

[Anonymous No.]

Also, just being on the Steam front page will make it sell like hotcakes.

[Anonymous !4changtcqk No.]

>>6084508
Are hotcakes really that popular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084527
If you don't like hotcakes you have very poor taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084508
Unless I'm mistaken, that front page is determined by sales. In order to get there to begin with, you have to sell like crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>YOU WILL BUY THIS GAME AND YOU WILL BUY IT FROM STEAM

This game is SHIT, even compared to other indie games. Just because it's on Steam doesn't suddenly make it amazing and worth a purchase.

But you /v/ fanboys faggots buy EVERYTHING that's on Steam. "Oh boy niche game nobody's ever heard about for $5 off when I can get the DRM-free brick-and-mortar retail version for $20 off? AND I get to suck on Gabe's dick?! WHAT A DEAL! I'LL BUY 5 COPIES AND GIFT 4 TO RANDOM PEOPLE!"

Stop spamming every shit Steam title that has some sort of Japanese vibe to it on /jp/. All those indie Steam shmup ads were saged and deleted. I don't see why this half-assed pile of shit dungeon crawler with a junior high economics gimmick should be any different.

In short, Steam is shit, DRM is shit, digital distributions are shit, /v/ is shit, SomethingAwful is shit (I'm surprised the translators weren't banned for being "creepy pedophile fucks" for translating a game involving cute girls under the age of 18), this game is shit, modern PC gaming is shit, and YOU are shit, so fuck off and die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084552
I wish to inquire, good sir, to the status of your anger level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084552
>I don't see why this half-assed pile of shit dungeon crawler with a junior high economics gimmick should be any different.

it's got kawaii (that means cute) little anime characters so it's gotta be good xD

[Anonymous No.]

this is starting to smell like viral

i mean i played the demo and liked it, but spamming PLEASE BUY THIS threads everywhere (even on /new/) is just too much

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084552
>BAWW MOMMY DOESNT TRUST ONLINE RETAILERS, SO I HAVE TO BUY MY PS3 SHOOTAN GAMES FROM GAMESTOP, SO STEAM SUX BAWWWWW, STEAM HAS CRAP DRM BAWW, EVERYTHING TO DO WITH PC GAMING IS SHIT BAWWWW LOOK AT ME TROLL MOMMY BAWWWWW

What did I just read there?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084552
>digital distributions are shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084552
Modern gaming is shit, but this is a good game. I don't see why it being on Steam suddenly makes it all bad and mainstream.

[Lolimaster !Y5sq0hE6W. No.]

Everyone in here is so fucking mad, I cringe as I read it.

Want to buy it? Good. You're helping something you believe in. Maybe they'll translate more things you like. And that's good, for you.

Don't want to buy it? That's cool also. There are tons of things I don't buy, even if I'm from that fanbase. Nobody should force you to buy it.

Want to pirate it? Do it. Just don't try to justify it morally or try to use some other sort of justification.

I will pirate it, if I can. But I don't go around saying it's the best option.

[Anonymous No.]

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[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>6084288
>>6084328
Oh boy /v/ nerds. Time to post in a way they're familiar with then:

>>insinuating these doujin games had any DRM to begin with
>>my face when Japanese indie devs so just fine on DRM-free digital distrubition sites such as DLsite
>>insinuating that Steam is not somehow a step backwards when compared to the above
>>my face when the Japanese will always own us at indie games because we're so obsessed with including DRM in everything

[Anonymous No.]

Oh my god... this thread...

If you want to buy it, good for you.
If you want to buy it on Steam, good for you.
If you want to pirate it, good for you.
If you think it's shit, good for you.
If you think somebody else is wasting their money, good for you.

All of you sound like faggots regardless of what your opinion is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084637
>greentext
>Zun
You're a faggot and you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084637
>Implying no DRM is a step up from DRM
>Implying steams DRM will ever effect you, unless you have a crappy ISP, go broke and cant afford any form of connection, or a disaster cuts off service in your area, all of which should be when you are NOT trying to be playing games anyway.
>Implying steam DRM doesn't cut down on pirating (Yes,I know it still happens), creates more sales, and gets good games more advertisement
>Implying you are not stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084637
I'm curious to know what you believe Steam DRM is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084637
I don't remember World of Goo having DRM and that was one of the more popular western titles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084653

>Implying no DRM is a step up from DRM

/v/ saying DRM is a good thing (complete with greentext "implying"). That board has hit rock bottom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084685
A real Steam proponent would try to sell it on the fact that it has an offline mode and you don't actually need to be connected to the internet. He's likely just a troll.

[Anonymous No.]

>Thread involving a game about capitalism
>People using "CAPITALISM SUCKS" as an argument to justify pirating it
>my face

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084741

The game is about real, physical goods. Intellectual property is not pure capitalism, is more state capitalism.

[Anonymous No.]

The reason many people defend Steam when it comes to DRM is because it's hardly noticeable. Remember Starforce (Trackmania)? Ubisoft's DRM? EA limited installs? Those where horrible DRM that fucked legit consumers. The only thing that Steam requires is that you install it and that you activate the game once after installing (which requires a internet connection, and for a game that you are buying DIGITALLY this is hardly an issue). After that you don't need to keep the PC connected to the internet, in fact if you want to keep it logged off and install it on another computer you can withiut problems. And small games like Racettear will most likely have an exe that can be launched without Steam, so after buying and installing you don't even need it to launch the game again.

I swear, you people hating on it must have used it in 2004 when Steam was fucking atrocious, get on with the times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084773
You do sell books, too. Unless you think the majority of a book's price comes from the paper and the binding.

[Anonymous No.]

Steam DRM: An internet connection and an account.

Any additional DRM is put on there by the developers of the game in question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084741
Capitalism wants to take Recette's house away. Capitalism does suck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084778
What if I want to activate it 10 years after steam no longer exists?

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084944
Valve (Specificly gaben, that fat chunk of meat) has said they will release a patch that will remove ALL forms of DRM off of all of there games (With some exceptions of course, mostly MMO's and such) if the company ever goes down. But don't expect steam to die any time soon.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>6084944
You'll most likely be dead once that happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084782

In many cases, Steam versions of games actually strip away developer-coded DRM. Things like install limits and second-party authentication servers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084944

You own the game. Steam sends you a receipt and all, if you are really that worried print it. If Steam goes down and it's not a Valve game you can demand the game from the original studio and they will have to comply, if the don't you can easily press charges.

But that is not going to happen unless there is a major even that will put Steam out of business, like a third world war.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084963
Technological singularity, bro. I'll be living on inside my computer. Gabe shouldn't be controlling what I can and cannot install onto myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>6084782
after you first get the game you don't even need internet you can play single player games in offline mode.

[～(￣∇￣～) !NACK.rrrr. No.]

>>6085098
but he's so awesome!