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>Vocaloid 3 has been confirmed, and is said to be aimed to be Yamaha's most "realistic voice engine yet."
>Preparations are being made for the launch of the software, and release is expected in the near future.
>According to a representive from Zero-G and PowerFX, Vocaloid 3 has some very interesting features, however until it is announced nothing can be said on what they are.

>> No.6077500

I hope the english isnt shit.

>> No.6077511

>>6077500
English is a hard language so i would not bet on it.

>> No.6077548

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSF0ncZxzxM

Project if

>> No.6077546

WIll Miku be wearing less or more clothing?

>> No.6077553

Looking foward to it.

Pleased to see vocal synths being successful now too. Maybe one day they will get so advanced that they will replace generic low level auto-tuned pop singers.

>> No.6077554

>>6077511
>English
>Hard

>> No.6077564

>>6077548
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLjERuirZe0&feature=related

Related video

>> No.6077585

Bye bye Miku.

>> No.6077587

Even if the Vocaloid3 engine is released early, we'd still have to wait for a company to pick it up and develop a vocal databank using it. the developement of a Vocaloid takes between 4 and 18 month ( appends dont count ) . So I'd say we wont see a Vocaloid3 before 2012 at least.
Still looking forward to it. The recent increase of popularity of Gumi proved that fan can appreciate the voice before the character design

>> No.6077589

>>6077585
They'll just repackage her. They're going to milk her for all she's worth.

>> No.6077590
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>>6077585

>> No.6077596

>>6077589
Do you consider the Append package 'milking' ?

>> No.6077619

>>6077587
Crypton has been working on 2 or 3 secret voicebanks for months plus we never know when the english community will pull something out of the blue.

>> No.6077647

>>6077619
Crypton is working on a lot of project right now, even though they don't release as often as other companies. The Rin and Len appends alone would logically require 12 times the development funds of a regular Vocaloid.

>> No.6077664

Speaking of Crypton why don't they create a child celebrity mascot like the other 2 japanese companies?(Internet co.=Gachapin and AH soft=Hello Kitty)

>> No.6077691

>>6077664
Because those will probably sell like shit. Crypton know better than to appeal a demographic that will never have the money for their products

>> No.6077710

>>6077664
Those companies go for different things
Internet Co.=Celebs
AH soft=cute things
Crypton is actually trying to improve when using vocaloid.

>> No.6077730

>>6077691
I'm sure many japanese women will want a hello kitty vocaloid.

>> No.6077749

>>6077730
Let's suppose you're a japanese fujoshi

Would you rather spend your monney on Miku or on a poorly designed and childish Vocaloid nobody ever heard about ?

>> No.6077758

>>6077500
No, it's hard enough getting Vocaloids to sing Japanese without sounding a bit strange, there's no way they'll be pulling off English speaking Vocaloids that sound good until they perfect Japanese Vocaloids.;\

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>>6077749
How did Yuki do?

>> No.6077769

>>6077749
I'm leaning towards Miku but if she has hair ribbons then i want the hello kittty one.

>> No.6077786

>>6077758
The english and japanese Vocaloids are developed by different companies.
And I'd say the english ones are slowly improving, if you disregard Sonika. The best ones so far are Prima and Tonio - of course they are operaloids but their phonemes have been recorded so that they can sing any latin-based language : Italian, French, english, etc. And they roll their 'r's nicely. Big Al is a solid databank too

>> No.6077788
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We all know gachapin won't sell but come on Hello Kitty is a world wide phenomenon

>> No.6077793

>>6077786
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJwdToK76no

Sonika is the best hands down but i wish they would upgrade Sweet Ann.(though they may be having a contest for new box art)

>> No.6077808

>>6077765
I terms of sales
Miki>Yuki>Kiyoteru

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>>6077765
By the number of songs alon I'd say relatively bad, but I could be wrong
>>6077769
See pic

>> No.6077843

>>6077830
That's Rio not the hello kitty vocaloid.(we are still waiting on info.)

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>>6077793
>Sonika is the best hands down
I tried Sonika, and I can confirm that she has abolutely no breathiness - and for an engloid that's catastrophic. I can understand that zero-g wanted to appeal a japanese demographic by giving her harsher sounding phonemes, but she ends up being simply bland with a basic tuning - even worse than a Vocaloid1

>> No.6077870

I can't wait for CV04

>> No.6077873

>>6077843
I know, I was asking if someone would buy a Vocaloid that looked like this

>> No.6077879

I'm thinking of actually buying a vocaloid which one do you think would be best for somebody new?

>> No.6077882

>>6077873
Oh then no she looks really bad.

>> No.6077891

>>6077554
Check out how many syllables the English language has compared to Japanese.

Imagine trying to get a program to know how to read all those syllables, and learn all the rules for how different letters fuck each other in the ass to make different sounds.

Just getting it to do silent letters will be a bitch.

>> No.6077908

>>6077891
This.

an engloid databank is generally 4 times the size of a japanse Vocaloid one. and they still cant equal them in terms of quality

>> No.6077912

>>6077891
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm9421440

Big Al's english is very good.

>> No.6077925

>>6077879
How much does the software even cost these days, is it still almost 200 dollars per character? God damn Japan I don't get how your economy works.

>> No.6077935

>>6077912
Yes, in fact that is the case for most Engloids. But most of the time the ones using them are japanese, that don't nessecarily know how to handle the english language

>> No.6077938

>>6077879
Well, piracy's an option if you want to try some of them out. There's a nice hack called POCALOID.

I'd say Luka, though. She has one of the more flexible and mature voices and dual-language capability.

>> No.6077959

>>6077925
Its 16k￥ for a regular Crypton Vocaloid2

>> No.6077983

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtOluHtL_bU&feature=related

If you put dedication in, any Vocaloid will be amazing. Lola, was the first Vocaloid. (Well Leon and Lola same day, but w/e) Just slap a VSQ/MIDI that you downloaded from the internet, you won't get good results.

>> No.6078004

>>6077983
Susumu Hirasawa was one of the first person to use LOLA for the soundtrack ot Satoshi Kon's paprika. He also used MEIKO for the album 'Byakkoya' and various other tracks

>> No.6078063

Disregard that, is anyone here following Sshado's livestream for some occasionnal Vocaloid sessions ? I know he eventually makes a thread on /a/ but I on don't know about /jp/

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>> No.6078717

Yuki does alright, she already had a full solo album made, which is typically a sign of a decent fanbase.
Other than that, I'll wait for Vocaloid 3 to prove itself before I get excited... sometimes the Japanese have a funny idea of what constitutes 'progress' for stuff like this. The append project has already shown itself to be made of dreams and love, so I'll place my enthusiasm all in that court for the moment.

>> No.6079674

How many people think crypton will move away from Miku?

>> No.6079700

I don't give a damn about miku I just hope Luka gets reborn with the new engine

>> No.6079734

hmm, i thought this was the new vocaloid... guess not.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11745345

>> No.6079756

>>6079734
She just got released on the first.

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Vocaloid 3 VY1 Codename: Mizuki

Designed to be Unisex and depicted as Female

Basically a Len/Rin mashed together loid

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>>6079857
>Vocaloid2
fixed
>Codename: Mizki
fixed

>> No.6080018

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAvpqF4tZF8
I think Big Al has a very nice deep soft voice when he's used right.

>> No.6080231

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm11411902\

Oh god lol

>> No.6082277

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJk-bk2jIps&

Oh god even Teto is being upgraded and she sounds so real!

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mfw after all these upgrades and new vocaloids, my queen Luka is still the only dual language capable vocaloid and the only one who can understand me.

>> No.6082296

>>6082277
They even sing with emotion.

>> No.6082316

>>6082280
>my queen Luka is still the only dual language capable vocaloid and the only one who can understand me.
So, in other words, you settled for Luka since you're not dedicated enough to learn Japanese for your waifu?

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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm12017596

>> No.6082976

>>6082280
Luka's english is very average.

>> No.6084178

bump

>> No.6085721

Bumping this excellent, /jp/ related thread

>> No.6085740

>>6085721
thanks for deleting that shit and doing something useful.

>> No.6085775

>>6082316
I'm saying that knowing english is a Plus because my parents obviously aren't dedicated enough to learn japanese so they can communicate with mai queen

>> No.6087514

I just hop Prima and Tonio are the last opera vocaloids.

>> No.6088466

More news

A journalist Ken Fujimoto has interviewed with the developers of VY1, and one of them, Hideki Kenmochi of Yamaha Research and Development, mentioned VOCALOID3. Here's a part of the interview.
>"As the developer of VOCALOID, we need to push ahead with improving the sound quality. To achieve the purpose, we are approaching from the two different directions: one is the improvement of making databases, and the other is the improvement of the synthesizing engine. As for making databases, we heard Crypton and other licensees were contriving to improve their databases, but we should not just leave it to them. Therefore, VY1 has also a connotation of our progress report. Of course, we will share our research achievements with our licensees."

>"We are always working on improving the sythesizing engine. This is also related to GUI, but we are making it much easier to use, not just improving the sound quality. When we developed VY1, we made radical changes in the way of making databases, but the engine itself is still VOCALOID2 which has been used in previous products. However, we are making preparations to release VOCALOID 3, and I think we can announce it in the near future. We can't say the exact date now, but please look forward to it."

>> No.6088473

Goodbye Miku

It was nice knowing you.

>> No.6088501

>>6088466
VY1 is terrible though.

>> No.6088542

>>6088473
You really think their just going to ditch Miku? Yea right, she's the mascot of Vocaloid.

>> No.6088547

>>6088542
Of eastern vocaloids Sonika rules the west.

>> No.6092183

bump

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