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Does anyone else hate whenever Mokou and Kaguya appear together in some MV/animation/comic or whatever they're always fighting with each other?

I can't put my finger on it exactly, but it seems like one of those nerdy "OHoho I read the source books and manuals so I know they hate each other and fight lots!"

It seems like a dumb thing to lightly joke about it in that way though. They kill each other on a daily basis, not just shake their fists at each other.

If you're just having a bunch of characters walking by or displayed with each other, you don't need to do this consistently. We get it by now.

It just for me represents one of the aspects of Touhou fandom that makes me feel uncomfortable, reminds me too much of those ridiculous Shrinemaiden threads.

>> No.6037690

Can't say I share your sentiments to any mentionable degree, but it's an interesting point.

>> No.6037689

What, you want them to bloodily rip each other's entrails out while one of them laughs insanely in the middle of a comedy doujinshi?

>> No.6037691

I like think they just mock meachother most of the time Kaguya being cute and airheaded and Moko being serious then it turns violent every once in a while.

>> No.6037705

They fight each other in Drunkards of Eientei.

>> No.6037715

IN's extra doesn't seem THAT violent to me. I think you are just a stupid and aggressive person

>> No.6037746

>>6037715
Huziwara no Mokou
Species: Human
Abilities: Eternal youth and immortality
A human who has lived forever since consuming the Hourai Elixir.
Long ago, before she became immortal, she was the daughter of an aristocrat. She wasn't allowed to go out in public, so it seems that she wasn't a wanted child. One day, her father proposed to a commoner girl, but was humiliated because she responded by making an impossible request. That girl was Kaguya.
Mokou has hated Kaguya since then, and wanted to take her revenge before Kaguya returned to the moon. She couldn't make it in time, however... She reconciled herself by attempting to steal the medicine that Kaguya left for the emperor of that time.
Oddly, by the time Mokou found the medicine, people were about to throw it into a volcano. She managed to steal it before it was thrown in and consumed it - the Hourai Elixir... That was the last time she was seen in the human world.
Humans who never age can't fit into the human world, so Mokou was forced to live as a wanderer... Humans usually can't survive alone, but she can't die. However, she still suffers from hunger if she doesn't eat and pain if she becomes injured.
Eventually, she chose to live like a forgotten youkai in a desolate place...
Many long years came to pass.
Now, Mokou and Kaguya kill each other on a daily basis. She was extremely surprised to discover Kaguya in Gensokyo and so close to where she lived. It's no wonder, though; Kaguya left the Hourai Elixir, one of the moon's most classified secrets, on Earth. She could never expect to return to the moon in peace. Kaguya also had to run. Mokou felt relief beyond what she had ever experienced - Kaguya was in the same mess she was!

>> No.6037750

>>6037746

Mokou still detests Kaguya, and Kaguya still tries to kill her, but neither of them can die forever. These are wonderful days... This broken place is truly a paradise!
And she is alive to enjoy it, how magnificent!

That's from the manual.

Also, one thing I noticed, it doesn't seem to say what this impossible request was anywhere, which is why it annoys me when fans get so "Into" the relationship.

>> No.6037789

>ridiculous Shrinemaiden threads

Hey hey, hold up. We don't like this kind of bullshit, either. Just because retards flock to us doesn't mean we enjoy it.

But yeah, I don't think it's as aggressive as you seem to think.

>> No.6037798

I think it's aggressive, but I think it's taken in a sort of light manner. Mokou does say that Kaguya prevented her life from being boring.

>> No.6037896

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>> No.6038577

>>6037750
They're on the wiki bro.

>> No.6038890

>>6037680
They canonically don't go about killing each other anymore.

Enter Kaguya doing Yui antics.

>> No.6038893

>>6037680
Ever since Imperishable Night ended, Kaguya and the Eientei folks have been reduced to LOL K-On antics.

>> No.6038905

>>6037680
You have not read Inaba at all have you?

>> No.6038930

Mokou x Kaguya is probably one of the things I hate most of Touhou fandom.

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>> No.6039013

CiLR really needs to be translated. They used to kill each other but they stopped now:

"But during the next three hundred years, I was finally reunited with my immortal archrival, and we discovered the joys of killing each other over and over. "

"Of course, when I was young, I wouldn't have thought about mutual killings - finding a way to harrass Kaguya would have been enough to bring me some satisfaction. Looking back on it, I think spending that much time nursing my bitterness against others probably made me twisted. However, it's true that nothing brings a sense of motivation the way a lust for revenge does. "

In my opinion Ive seen variety in their relationship, from cute bickering, to working together (but keep fighting) and to holy shit did she just decapitate her? I don't mind. But you know what pisses me off?

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>> No.6041704

So OP, you are basically saying you prefer the fanon "Mokou and Kaguya are so tsundere for each other, kyaaaa! XD" shit over their canon personalities? And you hate people who try to stick closely to canon when making derivative works?

Sounds like you need to get the fuck out yourself. Coupled with the fact you don't even know the impossible requests are from the fucking ORIGINAL STORY Kaguya is based on, you sound like you belong on Shrinemaiden yourself.

>>6038930
They just bring in the worst part of the fandom. Same as Cirno.

>> No.6041718

>>6041704

Sounds like you need to read more than one fucking sentence.

What OP meant was that he doesn't like them being portrayed as merely quarrelers fistfighting. He would prefer them as hated enemies who literally kill each other daily.

Not "Grr Kaguya, you're such an idiot, take this!" and then they brawl, but "KAAAGUUUYAAAAAAA I'LL RIP YOUR LUNGS OUUUUT", and then blood fountains.

Oh, and he's annoyed that people portray this as the only aspect of their interaction.

>> No.6041720

OP, first eat a viagra.

Then get a scissor and cut of your penis.

Insert that trash repeatedly into your butthole.

You will gain enlightenment eventually.

>> No.6041732

Cirno should not be blamed for Not-Cirno's actions.

>> No.6041740

>>6041718
>blood fountains.
Hello Brutal Touhou

>> No.6041771

>>6037680
Hell, and why not portray a Youkai eating a human being?
Touhou has many potential for that kind of thing, but people tend to prefer "LOL YOUKAI MOE XDDDDD"

>> No.6041825

>>6041771
>"LOL YOUKAI MOE XDDDDD"
You'd rather have srs bsns grimsokyo?

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Every interpretation is good in its own way. Mokaguya hatesex is cute and hot, but serious drama is good as well.

If you want serious grimdark, I highly recommend Tohonifun's works. He has one of the best portrayals of serious Kaguya I've seen. I really loved the way this chapter was done, with Eirin narrating about her life at Kaguya's side. "One day she met a girl, and I was no longer special." *cue this spread across the next two pages*

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