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Meanwhile, at Witch Hunt...

>> No.6001653

get out witch hunt devs

>> No.6001757

>>6001653
Not a Witch Hunt dev. Merely someone who is aggravated by the lack of process thusfar and searching for people who are also aggravated with it.

>> No.6001764

>>6001757
>Lack of process thus far.
>The game has been out for a week.

OH SHIT NIGGER WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING?

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OH BOY, IS IT THAT TIME AGAIN!?

I'VE BEEN WAITING TO SPAM THIS

>> No.6001775

>>6001764
thatsthejoke.jpg

>> No.6001789

Still nothing?
;_;

>> No.6001792

So how long did it take last time? 6 months? Or 12?
I decided - I will learn Japanese and read it myself before the lazy fucks translate it. And then I will translate it myself.

>> No.6001793

>>6001789
Nothing whatsoever.

>> No.6001799

>>6001792
I will support you in this glorious feat, kind Anon.

>> No.6001801

Maybe someone in jp should translate instead

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Meanwhile at Witch Hunt.

>> No.6001810

>>6001801
We should create a team of die hard Umineko fans who can understand Japanese and translate the game.

It would be glorious!

>> No.6001824

>>6001792
6. You are now aware it will be 2011 before you can read EP7. ;_;

>> No.6001834

>>6001824
WHAT!? BUT THEN THE SERIES WOULD'VE ENDED ALREADY!!

Don't do this to me, Witch Hunt! Not you!!

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Ahem.

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stalled at ep5,,,
is 6th even worth of my time??

>> No.6001860

>>6001855
Not really. 6 is the shittiest episode.

>> No.6001862

>>6001855
In my opinion, yes. 6 gives a fair amount of answers and all in all is an excellent episode. Erika was a true villain to the very end ;_;.

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Always relevant.

>> No.6001896

>>6001860
>>6001862
And thus we summarize 4chan.

>> No.6001899

>>6001893
angedrinkingfromcup.jpg

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>>6001893
or butter mah biscuit!

>> No.6001910

>>6001896
Because the question was stupid in the first place.

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>>6001851
>>6001887

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Meanwhile in the meta-world

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Meanwhile at Witch Hunt

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>>6001917

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>>6001824
I'm betting on a late January release. I'd stake money on it.

>> No.6001933

>>6001928
And then ep. 8 will be translated by December 2012?

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Meanwhile at Witch Hunt.

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Meanwhile at Yasu's room...

>> No.6001943

>>6001933
What? No. Witch Hunt releases come out every five or six months, right? So the EP8 patch would be released sometime in the summer of 2011.

>> No.6001948

>>6001943
I thought it took a full year to translate ep. 5? I may be mistaken, though. I know that ep. 6 was shorter than 5 though.

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>> No.6001955

>>6001948
Ep5 was released in August 2009 (duh) and we got translation by the end of December.

>> No.6001963

>>6001955
Ah, I see. My mistake. I didn't start following the WH releases much till after 5's translation was released.

>> No.6001964

I remember End came out on the 26th of December last year. It was really was fucking perfect. I was feverishly f5ing witch hunt on the 23rd, only to get no results. Then, when I randomly went on to /jp/ at around 4:00 am on the 26th (technically the 27th) after a long, hard day of running after small children, it was out. I nearly wept tears of joy. If the same thing happened this year, it'd be a miracle. ;_;

>> No.6001974

>>6001964
>long, hard day of running after small children
Proceed.

>> No.6001975

>>6001941
>Yasu
>Light blue-ish hair

Wut? (S)He should have the same hair colour as Lyon.

>> No.6001985

>Meanwhile, at X
>Meanwhile, at Y
>Meanwhile, at Z
>Meanwhile, at A
>Meanwhile, at B
>Meanwhile, at C

"Meanwhile, at Witch Hunt" is no different at all really, explain to me how this "became an epix meme XD".
Witch hunt are actually fast, and even though they had a bit of a down time they are still fast.

This is just proof that the Umineko fanbase are worse than most others. That is if they believe their "special translators" are entitled to this "hilariously funny XD meme" just cause they had some downtime.

>> No.6001988

>>6001964
>after a long, hard day of running after small children
Details please.

>> No.6001989

>>6001975
Yeah, and Shannon should have too, but she hasn't.

>> No.6001991

>>6001975
when he first thinks about pretending to be the witch Beatrice, we see him/her as a white version of Beatrice (Claire), which is what the comic is referencing

>> No.6001996

>>6001985
Chill out, bro. That's just a joke.

>> No.6001999

>>6001985
You're still surprised at internet being filled with self-entitled spoiled big babies?

>> No.6002002

>>6001989
Yasu dyes her hair?

>> No.6002004

>>6001989
Wigs negro, Do you know about them?

>>6001991
Ah... I see. Thanks.

>> No.6002011

>>6002002
Yeah, several times a day, when she cross-dressed as Kanon, Shannon and Beatrice, which all have different hair colors.

>> No.6002014

>>6001985
It's just what we do to pass the time. As >>6001996 said, it's just a joke. And the Umineko fanbase is nowhere near as bad as some of the other fanbases on this board.

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Meanwhile at /jp/

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>touhou fanbase: there's a lot worse fanbases in this board
>umineko fanbase: there's a lot worse fanbases in this board
>visual novels fanbase: there's a lot worse fanbases in this board
>idol fanbase: there's a lot worse fanbases in this board
>ar tonelico fanbase: there's a lot worse fanbases in this board

>> No.6002034

>>6002011
Rather than dying her hair X amount of times a day, wouldn't it be easier to just have an assortment of wigs instead?

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>>6001985
I think you completely missed the point of the joke. There's a hint right at your post, by the way.

>> No.6002063

>>6002034
I'd prefer an assortment of hats.

>> No.6002076

>>6001985
You misunderstood. That is no meme, it's some kind of inside joke for most regular people here because the translators and staff browse /jp/ too.

>> No.6002077

>>6001985
Sup Witch-Hunt.

>> No.6002078

>>6002063
Hats? Hmm... explain how this would work.

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Meanwhile at witch-hunt

>> No.6002091

>>6002082
Clearly, Battler is not entertained by the fact that Evatrice and Beato somehow have a functioning chess game going during the Daredevil Falls ride.

>> No.6002120

>>6002034
It's not like they have voluminous hair for it to be a wig. Unless she's bald, however...

Oh, well, yeah, we can't deny that she wore super-wig X, which is completely undetectable for anyone. And that she is an expert of disguise.

>> No.6002156

>>6002120
Super-wig X? Plausible. There are no Dine or Knox rules towards "disguise function X".

>> No.6002166

>>6002120
Genji wanted to hide Yasu from Kinzo to some degree. It makes sense that he'd raise her to wear something like a wig and eventually padding.

>> No.6002198

>>6002166
>Genji wanted to hide Yasu from Kinzo
>eventually padding.
>padding
>hiding from Kinzo
I can agree, if you meant padding between her pants and not in her bra.
And even then, I wouldn't put it past Kinzo.

>> No.6002203

>>6002166
It was said that Kinzo didn't give a fuck about almost everything at that time already. Basically, the whole thing that such a young servant was hired is Genji's doing. And it's much easier to just dye hair, if the purpose is to deceive Kinzo, than wear a wig constantly.

>> No.6002228

>>6002203
>And it's much easier to just dye hair, if the purpose is to deceive Kinzo, than wear a wig constantly.

Well, wigs have to factor somewhat into the equation because Kanon's hair is shorter than Shannon's. And Beatrice's (longhaired Beato, at least) hair is much longer than both of them.

(Even though this had nothing to do with deceiving Kinzo, I just thought I'd point it out.)

>> No.6002241

Also, WH and GF are working together, they're aiming for a late-sep / mid-oct release.

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>Windows Installer
>Message

>> No.6002260

>>6002241
This may very well be the best news I've heard all day.

>> No.6002262

>>6001941
Can anybody translate this?

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Meanwhile, at Witch Hunt...

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Meanwhile at Witch-Hunt

>> No.6002293

>>6002262

Penis and spiderweb/cum analogies. Penis and spiderweb/cum analogies EVERWHERE.

>> No.6002298

>>6002241
>GF
who are they and why does this sound like bullshit.

>> No.6002307

>>6002298
You weren't around here for long, were you.

>> No.6002335

>>6002262
-My key it's right here(there's an actual grammar mistake she makes)!
-Oh, you thought about tying a thread to your key, huh?
-Mysterious spiderman~
-Is that you?
-That's SF

(IIRC in Japan Spiderman pilots a mecha)
premise is Yasu keeps forgetting the master key around and gets scolded by other servants/Natsuhi for this. Kumasawa tells her Beatrice is the one who takes away her key and teaches a magic trick against the witch: tying the key to your pocket with a magical spiderweb (actually just a normal thread). This will become the basis for Beatrice's weakness against spiderwebs later.

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Meanwhile at Witch Hunt thread?

>> No.6002348

>>6002298
I would estimate that GF most likely stands for GameFaqs, but I could be wrong.

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>>6002345
Indeed.

Meanwhile at Witch Hunt...

>> No.6002355

>>6002298
Gamefaqs or something.
A bunch of faggots. Some anons believe they translated the most of the last episode for wh. They say so, so it mut be true, am I right guys?
Yeah, so basically big mouthed fags.

>> No.6002364

>>6002307
explain please

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>>6002355
I don't really think you know a lot about the issue. Do your research and correct yourself.

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Okay, I'm only on episode two, so forgive me if it's explained later, but why does Kinzo have a chapel on his island?

>> No.6002534

>>6002529
Because Kinzo.

Also inscription.

>> No.6002535

>>6002529
Because he wanted to.

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>>6002535
>>6002534
Good enough for me.

>> No.6002625

I've been away from Umineko for a long time. Last I read was ep 5. So the DID maid theories were correct? I'm a bit dissapointed.

>> No.6002641

>>6002625
No. DID isn't correct. It's something different entirely.

>> No.6002642

>>6002625
It's not like DID, Shannon and Kanon don't even properly exist, they were just imaginary aids that took over.
Yasu deserves an oscar.

>> No.6002649

>>6002625
>>6002641
>>6002642
If anything, there's probably an element of self-hypnosis involved, at least for the Shannon/Kanon stuff.

>> No.6002669

>>6002642
But the point is still the same. Someone is fooling others into thinking that there are more people than there actually are. Please tell me that Battler is the only one who doesn't know.

>> No.6002670

>>6002642
>>6002641
Don't try to argue like you have the answer.
There is hints for DID or not.

But the DID meido theory as it was discussed here was correct, aka Shannon is Kanon is Beatrice, personalities who can die and shit.

The other stuff like "is Yasu male or female" or "doe he/she has DID or does he/she have one big imagination and like crossdressing" isn't something that can be answered by reading episode 1-6.
If anything personalities who can die show clearly a DID and therefore we weren't wrong in arguing for this, despite the alternate that R07 presented just for episode 7.

>> No.6002673

>>6002642
Yasu also deserves a load of buckshot to the head.

A shipperfag ending will just be bad, now.

CONGRATS GEORGE AND JESSICA SURE YOU GUYS BOTH DIED BUT YOU GET TO BE WITH THE PERSONAS THAT DON'T REALLY EXIST FOR ALL ETERNITY.

YAY.

>> No.6002679

Can we go back to the 'why Kyrie isn't surprised when she doesn't find Shannon and Kanon'?

>> No.6002680

>>6002670
No, no, no. Let's not start this again. Most of us agreed with the Yasupologist that it was all Yasu playacting. Are we really going to start this discussion again?

>> No.6002690

It's not DID, I sort of have a similar thing. Probably Yasu's autistic.
It's a delusion your mind plays on you and for periods of your life, you believe that your imagination is actually you.

>> No.6002694

>>6002680
I'm not trying to discuss it, I'm just saying that there are hints for both theories in the fucking episode so there is no point arguing about it.

Nobody agreed with anybody, get your head out of your ass.

>> No.6002695

I just have a lack of empathy at this point.
In fact, if Yasu dies at the end, I'll cheer.
Really, Ryukushi, compared to people like Ange, Eva, Maria, I can't really get behind Yasu. I can understand her, but the more I understand her the less I like her.

>> No.6002699

>>6002690
That's what DID is for some psychiatric.

You guys seem to have a pretty wrong idea of what DID really is.

>> No.6002700

>>6002690
> and for periods of your life, you believe that your imagination is actually you.
That describes not just what happens with Yasu but what happens with Maria pretty well.

>> No.6002709

>>6002695
Don't worry, it is not just you. Everyone is kinda abandoning the ZOMG BEATO boat at the moment.

>> No.6002712

>>6002695
I'm the opposite. For some reason I really sympathize with Yasu. However, I do agree that compared to everyone else in the family, Yasu probably didn't have as much trouble.

>>6002694
Please dig up the string of ep. 7 threads and see who didn't agree with who.

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Poor Jessica. All she wanted to do was to leave her messed up family, and now she's dead. She died on the island, the very place she wanted to leave. Killed by one of her friends, even. She didn't do ANYTHING wrong. She was COMPLETELY innocent, and she's DEAD for good.

>> No.6002734

>>6002725
She wasn't COMPLETELY innocent... she did fake her asthma attacks. But out of the other members of the Ushiromiya family, she's probably as innocent (if not moreso) than Battler.

>> No.6002735

>>6002725
But are Ushiromiyas destined to stay dead forever?
Is ep1 confirmed to be the truthful kakera?

>> No.6002745

>>6002734
She only faked her asthma because of her crazy mother, who she still loved. Watch episode one, she has an asthma attack when everyone is about to kill each other.

But she's a rotting corpse now. Nah, more like ash, I suppose.

>> No.6002751

>>6002735
EP1 is just as fictional as 2-6.

>> No.6002756

>>6002725
I think Ryukushi will address that, somehow. She might be offered a miracle by Bernkastel, or something. Maybe.

>> No.6002766

>>6002756
She's dead. And when she died she died in vain.

YOU HAVE TO KNOW! YOU ARE NOT HER! HER FIGHT'S NOT YOURS!

YOU CANNONT WIN!

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Basically you'll need a lot of luck to explain umineko to someone who never read the novels

Shkannon is a girl/boy/hermaphrodit who was the son/daughter of Kinzo with his own daughter Beatrice II, he/she/it then fell crotch first into a rock when a baby, then grew up as a maid (regardless of his/her gender) and started to create 57857 imaginary friends, one of them actually becoming the dominant personality while the original personality became a trickster who loved to play pranks on everyone, then fell in love with his/her/it cousin/nephew because they both liked mystery novels or some shit. Then he/she/it moved on and passed her love to the original personality and started dating his/her other cousin/nephew and later created yet another persona who then started dating his/her other cousin/niece. They somehow failed to notice it. Then Battler comes back and she/he/it plans to accept the wedding ring while exploding/staking everyone and creating the illusion of closed rooms but those stupid adults and their dog solved the epitaph first and OH SHIT I CAN'T DO IT ANYMORE IT SOUNDS TOO STUPID BECAUSE I LACK LOVE

>> No.6002770

>>6002756
Someone has a bit too much faith in Bernkastel and her "miracles". Seriously though, I also hope Jessica gets a good end.

>> No.6002777

>>6002709
Not really. Just a couple Evafags on /jp/.

>> No.6002781

>maid (regardless of his/her gender)
bullshit, they use a gender-neutral "servant"

>> No.6002786

>>6002770
Oh, yeah, accepting a miracle from Bern is like making a deal with the devil, but it's better than to die due to the actions of one of your friends, who manipulates you and your family like pawns just because she really wants your cousin's penis.

>> No.6002787

Beginning of prologue, anyone?

Soil to soil.
Ashes to ashes,
Dust to dust.
Illusions are an illusion.
And dreams are dreams.
They disappear like a drawing in the sand covered by the returning waves.
And, the waves turn that dream to pure white.
In reality, those thoughtless sneers would never return.
She’ll never exist outside of your dreams.
She painted as a person’s dream who shouldn’t disappear.
Please look at that image.
The last witness of your dreams,
Virgilia Maro Publius

>> No.6002794

>>6002769
I think it feels completely stupid for everyone here, don't worry.

>> No.6002802

>>6002769
And you didn't even got started in explaining the meta world and fanfictions yet

>> No.6002805

>>6002777
Hey, hey, if it helps, I don't particularly care for Eva and I really dislike Yasu.

Don't try to make this Moon-chan vs Shkanontrice factional bullshit all over again, because it's a bit more complex than that.

>> No.6002810

You know, Kiri no Pithos gave us a lot of hints to episode 7 unlike Okarutikusu no Majo.

>> No.6002813

>>6002786
If Jessica were the main character of Umineko, her journey would be realizing that everyone she knows is a jerk. The recurring message would be "Without severe paranoia it can't be seen"

>> No.6002817

>>6002813
Spinoff series, anyone?

>> No.6002830

>>6002813
Ends with her just flipping off her family and moving to San Francisco.

>> No.6002831

>>6002810
Occultics no majo gave us hints about the ending
TO THE MIRACLE THAT TURNS INTO ZERO
Yeah, hopeless end.

>> No.6002841

>>6002831
I wouldn't call it hopeless, per se. I'm still hoping for a bittersweet end that will result in a happy ending for Ange, Battler, Maria and Eva.

>> No.6002849

>>6002841
It's still a bad end for the rest.
I kinda wanted a resolution between Maria and Rosa.

>> No.6002850

>>6002831
But you see, Bern has no power against zeros.
I guess it means it'll be a miracle against Bern.

>> No.6002852

>>6002850
You know, Bernkastel is a bitch, but the hell Beato is in is largely of her own design.

>> No.6002855

About the last red text.
"I will not GIVE this story a good end."

She does not give != The pieces can't gain it by themselves.

>> No.6002866

>>6002855
YEE HAW, JESSICA, BATTLER, LOAD UP THE SHOTGUNS, WE'RE GETTING THE FUCK OUT OF HERE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER

FUCK THIS ISLAND AND IT'S CRAZY BULLSHIT

>> No.6002871

>>6002852
Mostly. But somehow I think that Lambda also has a lot to do with it.

"You weren't always a witch, remember? Remember what a pitiful creature you were back then?"
Misquoted heavily, but it was something like that.

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>> No.6002875

>>6002866
GOHDA! Please tell me you will be GM of episode 8!!!

>> No.6002879

>>6002787

Is this real?

>> No.6002880

>>6002866
Surely is higurashi end around here!

>> No.6002888

>>6002879
Yes.

>> No.6002889

>>6002855
Pieces can't gain anything since they are just that, pieces.
Shit already happened, it's not Higurashi, move on.

>> No.6002898

>>6002787
"Earth to earth" makes more sense due to the reference.

>> No.6002922

So is anyone else hoping Beato will get a somewhat happy ending?

>> No.6002925

>>6002898
It's kind of ironic that the original quote mentions resurrection, considering Virgilia's words.

"Earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust; in sure and certain hope of the Resurrection into eternal life"

>> No.6002929

>>6002922
you think she survived?
Meta-good end would be kind of good.

>> No.6002932

>>6002922
> She’ll never exist outside of your dreams.

>> No.6002935

>>6002922
She can get a happy ending if everyone else is alive, sure.

But if Jessica, George, Maria, and Gohda are dead, and Yasu is with Battler the sociopathic mercenary in the future, FUCK NO she shouldn't.

>> No.6002946

>>6002929
Well, yeah. A good end in the meta-world. Outside of the meta-world is pretty much impossible at this point unless Yasu somehow gets a good end.

>> No.6002952

>>6002946
They, uh, they buried he-

fuck it meta characters don't die ever.

>> No.6002959

>>6002922
I'm hoping meta-battler is yet another Yasu imaginary friend and the entire meta-world discussion is an allucination Yasu had just before dying from the bullet's wound. Metatrice and Metabattler then fuck and have 85908250 imaginary babbies while real Battler runs with Eva and Maria and lives happily with Ange and never discovers the clusterfuck that was Shkannontrice.

>> No.6002965

>>6002952
> fuck it meta characters don't die ever.
If Beato gets a good end after that, then Erika better get one too.

...Wait, who's Erika?

>> No.6002966

>>6002952
How does that change anything? We know that Beato has died how many times? It's obvious that she's like Dracula. No matter how many times she dies, she keeps on coming back.

>> No.6002967

>>6002959
Umineko could go all DEEP on us in episode 8.

THE CULPRIT WAS YOU THE READERS

>> No.6002969

>>6002959
That's pretty likely.

>> No.6002972

>>6002965
Erik-
Huh?

...You mean Will? Or Dlanor?

>> No.6002975

>>6002965
>Erika better get one too
Nonexistent characters can't have good endings bro.

>> No.6002988

>>6002959
I would rage SO hard if the meta-world is just a hallucination. I was hoping for some grand reveal regarding the meta-world and its connection to everything that happens/has happened to the Ushiromiya family.

>> No.6002990

>>6002967
Actually, Bern and Lambda talk to the readers in Episode 7. Effectively, they say:

"All you witches out there hoping for a good ending for this game? [red]Sorry, not gonna happen[/red]."

The actual red text was a bit different, of course.

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Oh, I got it! Everyone that qualifies as an Aunt and Uncle should die!

Everyone else shouldn't!

>> No.6002997

>>6002988
The meta-world is made of a characters that a crazy intersexed maid and a little girl made up.
Of course it's a hallucination.

>> No.6002999

>>6002990
Lambdadelta and Bernkastel trolled us.

In other news, multiple stab wounds have proven to be harmful to monkeys.

>> No.6003000

>>6002975
A person named Furudo Erika fell off a boat on October 4th. She existed in some form.

>> No.6003002

>>6002991
>Aunt and Uncle
Dohohoh, I see what you did there.

>> No.6003005

>>6002959
If it was all an illusion, the Yasu sure likes to die a lot in them.

>> No.6003008

>>6003000
too bad she drowned, she never got to Rokkenjima and if she did... explosions.

>> No.6003011

>>6002988
Well, there's the Hachijou Touya = Asumu theory...

>> No.6003013

>>6003000
I have no idea who you're talking about.

ahaha.wav

>> No.6003017

>>6003011
I'm actually hoping this turns out to be true, and all of these hints in Hachijo's name pointing towards Asumu weren't just one big red herring from Ryu07.

>> No.6003020

>>6003011
http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4296819

>> No.6003026

Escapism is bad.

Except when it's good.

>> No.6003035

>>6003026
>escapism is bad
Then why are there people on 4chan, especially anime-related boards?

>> No.6003048

>>6003035
BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FAGGOTS.
COWARDS WHO DO NOT WANT TO FACE REALITY.
PART OF THE SCUM THAT PLAGUES SOCIETY.

AND WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

>> No.6003054

>>6003048
>>6003035
I don't know about you guys, but I'm just here for the seacats.

>> No.6003071

>>6003035
To be fair, he did say except when it's good.

>> No.6003075

>>6003071
>implying escapism on 4chan is good
Think about it a bit.

>> No.6003140

Does anyone happen to have the lyrics to Bernkastel's image song from Rokkenjima in Love? (Or from the Kiri no Pithos music box)

>> No.6003235

>>6002709
Inb4 Beato wins character poll again like EP6.

>> No.6003240

>>6003235
What if Leon wins?

>> No.6003253

>>6003075
You have to admit, it beats alcoholism or vandalism.

>> No.6003270

>>6003235
I doubt it. EP6's poll was the first one she's ever won. And she did it for obvious reasons, as she was the heroine of the game (heroine as in, she's the one who saves the day).

Anyway, my bet is that we're still missing details as to the events in Rokkenjima - even though things would seem to be settled in stone. Then we realise Yasu was also a victim, and people will go BAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW BEATO/YASU/LYON again.

>> No.6003285

>>6003270
Like I've been saying, I do think that Yasu may be a victim to some extent. My money is still on someone manipulating her.

>> No.6003290

>>6003253
Both of those let you be with other people.
At least is better than hard drugs.

>> No.6003326

>>6003270
> Anyway, my bet is that we're still missing details as to the events in Rokkenjima
Well yeah. I find it really odd that we were only shown the bit just before Kyrie vs. Jessica and then the aftermath. Why not show what actually happened between them? After all, something caused Kyrie to bash Jessica's face in instead of shooting her to death, and there was Kyrie's comment about being used to being hit...

>>6003290
But one of them can lead to illness, criminal acts, and death (of you and/or others), and the other one is itself a criminal act.

>> No.6003351

>>6003326
There's also George too. The deal with Maria's rose is there in every single episode. And that rose is precisely what allows Maria meet Beatrice (or Kinzo, or Erika).

>> No.6003362

>>6003290
>Both of those let you be with other people.

That's not necessarily a good thing. People don't tend to get into trouble by themselves.

>> No.6003367

>>6003351
> There's also George too.
I'll bet Battler really did write a letter to Shannon, but George kept it secret out of spite/jealousy.

>> No.6003429

Yasu = Asumu

>> No.6003448

>>6003429
...How?

>> No.6003463

>>6002810

Well, there was "Forget the pale horses" and "Their love created Fukuin".

>> No.6003466

>>6003367
That wouldn't be surprising at all. We know, from George's own words in EP6, he used to think there was something between Battler and Shannon 6 years ago. We also know he probably already liked Shannon back then. That, and EP6 and EP7 have made it clear he still has some degree of jealousy toward Battler. Moreover, we've had 2 instances in which he's made it clear he's ready to kill everyone for Shannon.

Something I've realised and found a bit funny is that in EP6's Love Trial:
- George fought his mother
- Beatrice (without knowing it) fought the woman set to be her mother
- Jessica fought Kyrie

Jessica being born after 12-15 years without Natsuhi being able to conceive is rather suspicious. We still don't know shit about the other Battler.

You know, I'm just pointing some things out. I'm not trying to imply anything at all.

>> No.6003470

>>6003463
...I totally missed that part. Huh. Interesting.

>> No.6003498

>>6003463
There's a bit more to it than just that...

http://honya-ch.com/2009/11/26/lyrics-umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-chiru-episode-5-theme-song-occultics-n
o-majo-ayumu/

The person who did that translation didn't quite realize the true significance of the "pale horses" interpretation, though they're probably right about it also being a chess reference, but in general it's a better-flowing translation than the others I've seen.

>> No.6003501

>>6003463
>Well, there was "Forget the pale horses" and "Their love created Fukuin".
>Forget the pale horses

That'd be "the pale horses will run". It could also be read as "the pale horses will advance (against an enemy)" if you think of it as a reference for a battle or chess.

>> No.6003519

>>6003466
If the other Battler is still alive, it has to be Jessica. This much we know. Of course, the other Battler could be dead, but that begs the question of how in the hell a Battler can be born from Asumu and be dead.

I mean, sure, let's suppose the other Battler just died due to complications, but because we know that Battler 2.0 is NOT the child from 19 years ago, shit is getting a bit more complicated.

>> No.6003522

>>6003498
>>6003501
I think it's a bit more than that: I noticed back when I used ATLAS with Episode 5 that the word used for "piece" (as in a character on the gameboard) was technically the word for "horse" (which I just discovered, contrary to the translation posted, refers to a different shougi piece than a knight).

>> No.6003547

>>6003498
Fukuin means "gospel" and "good news"? Hmm. This is the first I've ever heard of this. Thank you for this information, kind anon.

>> No.6003613

as much as I'd like to read it in English when Witch Hunt is done, I don't feel like waiting months, so I figured I'd use AGTH and Translation Aggregator.
Slow going so far, but WH's patch will probably be out when I'm done.

>> No.6003683

>>6003020
『五角场 ~之~ 无名氏』 can't math.
> 11019960576 = 8^18
But it's the other way around! 8^18 = 11019960576.

>> No.6003686

Huh, not a huge amount of people have voted, but so far on Eroscape it looks like EP7 is being ranked as the best one so far, squeezing by EP3. Wonder if it'll hold up.

>> No.6003697

>>6003683
Um...

>> No.6003880

>>6003697
>>6003683
Oh, right. I meant to say that 18^8 = 11019960576.

>> No.6003903

>>6003880
Well, the stuff in the first post aside from that all came from EP6, which means he just got confused. You switch around the 18 and 8 and it still works, and actually makes more sense. "18 up 8", which he says in the post, would be 18^8, not 8^18. So it'd be 18上8, I guess?

Shit, I'd have to go back and look at the Japanese text for that scene to make sure.

>> No.6003905

has anyone have the full lyrics for Kiri no Pithos yet?

george ascomps

>> No.6003911

>>6001862
>gives answers

Hee hee

>> No.6003919

>>6003905
http://atashi.wordpress.com/2010/07/05/umineko-no-naku-koro-ni-chiru-episode-7-requiem-of-the-golden
-witch-opening-theme-kiri-no-pithos/

>>6003911
Well, I don't know about you but I got a lot of answers out of episode 6.

>> No.6003921

The chinese group is already at 5% lol

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>>6003519
>>6003466
>implying we haven't already met the other Battler

>> No.6004015

meanwhile at witch hunt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXxcPtTlYQQ&feature=related

>> No.6004031

>>6003921
This is no surprise. There's a fuckload of Chinese with moonspeak knowledge out there compared to us English speakers, and they translate FAST.

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>>6004015
Meanwhile at Witch Hunt...

>> No.6004080

>>6003547
The word 'gospel' itself means 'good news'

>> No.6004103

>>6004080
Well, that much I did know.

>> No.6004235

Can someone clear some minor details for me? I know little of EP7 so spoilers are welcome to me.

Is this Yasu person the Leon girl/boy/thing?

Is anything even guaranteed true since EP7? I thought it'd be unsure since Berun said she has no love so she might misinterpret things. Though I figure he wouldn't intentionally write an entirely off-subject episode into the story so close to the end.

Why do you all seem kind of turned against Beato? Is there some fact against her in EP7? Are she and Battler present in EP7?

Also, that thing with her being named "Beatrice Castiglioni," is that false? Because I thought she was Beatrice only in inheritance of the name from Virgilia.

>> No.6004272

>>6004235
>Is this Yasu person the Leon girl/boy/thing?
In a way, kind of. Leon is the good end version of Yasu that can only exist in a one in two million probability of acceptance.

>Is anything even guaranteed true since EP7?
Everything in the Tea Party is the truth.

>Why do you all seem kind of turned against Beato? Is there some fact against her in EP7? Are she and Battler present in EP7?

Most have turned against Beato because Yasu and Beato are the same person. Also, he is present only in the beginning and end.

>Also, that thing with her being named "Beatrice Castiglioni," is that false? Because I thought she was Beatrice only in inheritance of the name from Virgilia.

Beatrice Castiglioni is Beato's real name, the first Beato. The Kuwadorian Beato is her daughter.

>> No.6004283

>>6004272
Thanks a lot for the concise and respectful answers. Wasn't sure I'd get them on here. I'm not liking the way things are starting to sound. But I really do appreciate the answers, dude.

>> No.6004291

>>6004283
No problem. Always glad to help out.

>> No.6004309

People who don't read the episode for themselves - instead relying on second or third-hand spoilers - are the worst. It is their fault that things that are confirmed in the latest episode are not truly confirmed in the community until witch-hunt's patch.

>> No.6004343

>>6004309
I know I would have been raging if I was relying on spoilers. But the episode is really great. And I still like Beatrice, amazing.

>> No.6004347

>>6004309
Some of us cannot read Japanese. Most of us intend to read the episode after WH comes out with a translation. I do, at least.

I see no problem in helping provide to people who were unable to participate in the discussions a few days ago with what was/wasn't confirmed.

>> No.6004364

>>6004235
>Why do you all seem kind of turned against Beato? Is there some fact against her in EP7?

Because, as of now, Yasu's motives don't make sense enough to justify mass murder. All the same, several things seem to be really off, and thus the actual motive, or even the actual culprit may be different. Not to mention that the relationship between Beatrice and most of the audience has been that of love and hate depending on how a particular episode plays out.

>> No.6004369

Person who asked those questions here.

I can see his point, especially in Umineko where we should be thinking for ourselves but I can do nothing but wait for the patch and feed off of others' discussions. So he's right in that respect but I still appreciate the help.

>> No.6004387

>>6004235
>Why do you all seem kind of turned against Beato? Is there some fact against her in EP7? Are she and Battler present in EP7?
>implying /jp/ has not always held irrational hatred for Beato

Oh you.

>> No.6004388

>>6004364
Also Beatrice may have a penis, some people are happier about it than others

>> No.6004400

>>6004388
I've got to admit, if there's a penis, Beatrice/Yasu/Lyon won't be the one I'll hate, but R07 for such a distasteful ass-pull. (No offence intended for whoever may actually enjoy such a twist.)

>> No.6004429

>>6004400
I have been saddened about Beato possibly having a penis ever since I read the spoiler. I would also be angry at Ryu07. I would also have to find a new waifu.

>> No.6004489

What happens in Episode 7 anyway? I've been putting off playing it because discussions for the past few months about Umineko have been shit so I honestly didn't care much when it came out.

>> No.6004596
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>>6004489
Beatrice dies an offscreen death, Battler and Virgilia are mourning her

Bern summons Will Wright, he hates using red/blue text and wields a white text sword. He has a power similar to the Detective Authority, the Spectator Authority, basically it enables him to interview someone and the person is unable to lie or present bullshit of any kind (Shannon suffers a glitch when Will asks her to bring Kanon in the same room).

90% of the main episode is Will asking the pieces about their pasts and about Beatrice, Kinzo tells about his past and about how he met the first Beatrice, Jessica babbles about a doll, Maria proves once more she's autistic and Rosa tells everything we already know, plus the fact that she told Genji about Beatrice's death when she was a child.

The rest of the episode is told by Claire (she's the proto-Beato created by Yasu) about Yasu's bland bullying past and how crazy he/she was. Shkannontrice is born.

Tea Parties

We see what really happened on the island: angerburger, will swimming in pussy, kyrie time and BatmanEva

>> No.6004639

>>6004596 Jessica babbles about a doll
In the "You are always so kind, Shiki-san. I've got to go repair the doll now." sense?

>> No.6004648

>Can we go back to the 'why Kyrie isn't surprised when she doesn't find Shannon and Kanon'?
Why do people continue asking this question? Obviously Kyrie saw "Beatrice" in the room with the gold, and obviously all the adults recognized Shannon. They weren't surprised only because fucking ten tons of gold surprised them much more.

>> No.6004707

19 - the age of the true master of the island
8 - the number of episodes
6 - the number of years since the sin
1986

>> No.6004714

>>6004707
Of course. 19, 8, and 6 have always been recurring numbers in Umineko.

>> No.6004722

>>6004596
>will swimming in pussy
oh u!

>> No.6004751

>>6004596
You forgot Maria told Will "fuck you, I'm drinking juice" when he asked her about Mariage Sorciere. And just as with Shannon's glitch, Will deduced someone must have prevented that from happening.


>will swimming in pussy

Fuck you, seriously, I almost ruined my laptop with juice.


>>6004648
>obviously all the adults recognized Shannon

Nothing really backs this up, especially when the adults kept on asking Yasu/Beato who she was.

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>>6004707

>> No.6004766
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>>6004761

>> No.6004798

>>6004596
> the person is unable to lie or present bullshit of any kind
You forgot that the person is still able to leave some stuff out, since Kinzo never mentioned the tiny little fact that he was the one who gave the Lieutenant the idea of killing all the Italians in the first place.

>>6004639
No, in the sense that somebody played a prank on her with a doll in the honored guest room at 2 am.

>> No.6004801

>>6004798
Prank? Was there an explanation for it in ep. 7? I don't remember reading about this anywhere.

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>>6004751
>Nothing really backs this up, especially when the adults kept on asking Yasu/Beato who she was.
Where? This is the first phrase said after Beato appeared, and sounds like Rudolf was a bit surprised but recognized Beatrice. After that they start asking about gold.

>> No.6004821

>>6004801
There was no explicit explanation, but given what we know about "magic", and also considering who Jessica talked to about the "stay away from the honored guest room at 2 in the morning" story, and also considering Will's speculation, it's safe to say it was a prank, most likely performed by Yasu.

>> No.6004834

>>6004821
I see. Yasu is just getting creepier and creepier.

>> No.6004841

>>6004821
By Yasu, Genji and Kumasawa. Remember that Jessica explained that 3 people were necessary for this prank. I was astonished at first but by the end of the episode I understood that it was possible.

>> No.6004844
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Need more pictures with Batman Eva.

>> No.6004845

>>6004841
Oh right, one to move the doll, one to trip the breaker (or pull the fuse, whichever it was), and one to play the recording.

>> No.6004859

>>6004841
>>6004845
Geez. I remember when I used to think that Genji and Kumasawa were awesome and totally innocent of anything. Guess the joke was on me, haha. Thanks for the information.

>> No.6004873

>>6004859
They may not be innocent, but they're still awesome. Protects Yasu from Kinzo and doesn't afraid of anything.

>> No.6004877

>>6004873
This is true. Also, Genji was totally badass in episode 2 with his knife skills. Kumasawa has always been awesome because of her mackerel jokes.

>> No.6004878

>>6004859
Actually, they may as well be innocent. Since all Yasu did at that point was play pranks, and nothing else. In fact, Yasu doesn't seem to harbour any ill intent toward anyone at any point. Things seemed to have got quite heated after she solved the epitaph and was told there was something wrong with her body. After that, we've got no idea what happened.

>> No.6004882

>>6004878
I've been thinking on this for a while. Isn't it stated that after she solves the epitaph that Genji calls her Beatrice and she's practically forced into that persona? Could that be why Yasu snapped? Because she was forced to be someone she clearly didn't want to be?

>> No.6004895

>>6004882
She was asked by Genji to put on the Beatrice dress, and that's it. Kinzo knew perfectly who she was - i.e. not Beatrice but his daughter. Kinzo asked her for forgiveness, told her the name he intended to give her was Lyon, and then he died. After that, it seems she was told there was something wrong with her body, and that's when she seems to have become frustrated, but as I've said we don't know what happened afterwards, and that event (i.e. Yasu solving the Epitaph) took place in November 29th of 1984.

>> No.6004903

>>6004895
Ahh, I see. This clears things up. So, as has been stated constantly, that two year time span is completely unknown.

>> No.6004921

>>6004903
Will seems to have understood whatever happened, but he made a point of choosing not to go into it, so yeah, it's weird.

>> No.6004948

>>6004921
Is there a chance he might have decided not to go into it out of respect for Yasu? (Or out of sympathy?)

>> No.6004956

>>6004948
> Is there a chance he might have decided not to go into it out of respect for Yasu? (Or out of sympathy?)
Considering what we know about him, that's probably exactly why he didn't go into it. Claire/White Beato ended her story there, and he didn't pry any further.

>> No.6004958

>>6004921
The point is, as cool as Will was, we cannot say he got everything right, or even if everything he went by was right, we don't know if he actually got everything.

He was seriously raped by Bern at the end. He could do nothing against her answer. Yet, Battler was there, chillin' at the end telling Ange "sad painful story? who the fuck told you that?"

Personally, I think this reinforces further no one but Battler can end this game.

>> No.6004959

>>6004948
More than a chance. That kind of attitude is a consistent point of Will's characterization throughout.

>> No.6004960

>>6004956
Interesting. I really want to know what could've happened to turn Yasu into such an empty person.

>> No.6004964

>>6004958
Will understood everything. Claire-Beatrice acknowledged this herself, even constrasting him to Battler. Will just didn't tell us, the readership, everything.

Will was destroyed by Bern because he was trying to fight reality with mystery, which is impossible. He knew that the entire time, it's very clear he knew he wasn't going to survive. But he was trying to buy Leon time to give him a chance.

>> No.6004965

>>6004958
Most likely because Will, never having been game master, didn't have the full knowledge of what originally happened as Battler does. Battler probably knows the aspects of the truth that were left out of the Tea Party.

>> No.6004987

>>6004964
>Will understood everything. Claire-Beatrice acknowledged this herself, even constrasting him to Battler. Will just didn't tell us, the readership, everything.

Will understood the closed rooms, and the fact Beato was an illusion. That's all we know, he knows. What else he knows, we don't know.


>Will was destroyed by Bern because he was trying to fight reality with mystery, which is impossible. He knew that the entire time, it's very clear he knew he wasn't going to survive. But he was trying to buy Leon time to give him a chance.

The thing is, even by the end, he was saying he believed there was a happy end for Beato. However, if what Bern show was indeed the full reality, then he should know there's no such thing. Will's last words are basically him saying he hopes/believes/thinks he didn't get anything right.

I'm sure the reason why Bern hasn't confronted Battler directly is because she knows what's in store for her.

>> No.6004991

>>6004965
The thing is, Battler became Game-Master because he understood everything, not vice versa.

>> No.6005006

>>6004987
Again, Claire-Beatrice acknowledged that Will understood everything about her heart - contrasting him to Battler, who couldn't.

I will grant, though, that while it's pretty clear Will understood everything about Beatrice and her heart, that doesn't necessarily apply to what laid behind Beatrice - the truth about what happened on the island. But that's very different from him "hoping he didn't get anything right." His attitude about Beatrice at the end, fighting for her happy end, actually hinges on him understanding and sympathizing with her very deeply.

>> No.6005011

>>6005006
The more I read about Will, the more I like him compared to Battler. I mean, Battler's still my favorite character, but damn...

>> No.6005017

>>6005006
Oh yes, that I can agree with. I'm sure he managed to understand Beatrice, but I really doubt he understood anything beyond her. That's my point. Also:

>Will's last words are basically him saying he hopes/believes/thinks he didn't get everything right.

That's how I actually meant to type that. Of course, this is under the assumption Will thinks he's understood everything about this game.

>> No.6005020

To be honest right now I don't really care weather Beato gets a happy end or not. I guess I'm one of those people who can't symphatise that much with Yasu. What I really care the most is wheather people like Ange, Maria, the Ushiromiya family family in general, the poor servant Gohda (who had nothing to do with this mess) gets a decent ending.

>> No.6005023

>>6005020
You aren't alone. A good majority of us feel this way now.

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>half the episode was spent about how the motive is ultimately the most important
>the other half was reinforcing Bern not understanding the heart
>still one episode left
>gee I wonder why Yasu's motives for killing seem fickle and out of the blue

>> No.6005034

>>6005020
If they do get a happy end, it'll be in the Meta World, barring any deus ex machina. The only ones likely to survive the incident are Eva and Battler.

>> No.6005037

>>6005020
Maria's jaw was found. Ange will hate Eva untill she dies, and then find the truth of Rokkenjima and pay her tribute for the rest of her life. Gohda will probably be dead.

>> No.6005041

>>6005033
> >the other half was reinforcing Bern not understanding the heart
It's not even that she doesn't understand it, it's that she doesn't give a fuck about it.

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The truth? Accidents, accidents everywhere!

>> No.6005046

>>6005034
In the end, Beato will welcome them all in the golden land. ;_;

>> No.6005050

>>6005011
Will and Battler are both amazing in different ways. Best end is for them to be THE HEART bros, shooting the breeze and talking shit about their waifus.

>> No.6005066

>>6005020
Honestly, I cannot care less for what happens to the adults. They pretty much offed themselves. I can have pity for the kids, but I cannot lie I have a degree of suspicion towards Jessica and George, especially towards the latter. Maria and Battler are true victims, but Battler seems to have survived. Poor Maria.

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>>6005050
And being the same person.

>> No.6005087

>>6005037

We have to ask Ryukishi what his defenition of "bittersweet" end is because really this is sounding so much more like "tragic end"

>> No.6005096

All I want is a little more Battler in the last EP.

I liked Will and all but seriously.

>> No.6005100

>>6005087
Try reading Hisui's route's True End from Tsukihime.

I guess it goes along those lines.

>> No.6005109

>>6005096
I'm sure there will be. I'm actually kind of doubtful we'll see Will (and Leon) again in the main series at all, no matter how funny their fanbase takeover in a single episode has been. I'm just not sure what place they'd have in an episode that's going to have to accomplish a ton of stuff.

>> No.6005116

Battler should just throw Berun out like he said he would. That pissed her off quite a bit.

>> No.6005118

>>6005109
Fuck it, if Will and Lyon return, then I'll demand Erika too.

inb4 who?

>> No.6005119

>>6005087
It will be bittersweet because, while in the real world its tragic, Ange will make her peace with it and accept Beatrice's heart. The illusion of the witch wont be broken, Ange will be the last guardian of the truth of Rokkenjima ( ANGE Beatrice after EVA Beatrice). In the meta-world everyone will go to the golden land and live happily.

>> No.6005134

>>6005066
>Honestly, I cannot care less for what happens to the adults. They pretty much offed themselves

The adults are all assholes in different varieties. some more than others but I still care for them in the end. All of them have their problems and trauma (Most more than Yasu did) and crisises that makes them what they are. In the end

>I can have pity for the kids, but I cannot lie I have a degree of suspicion towards Jessica and George

I don't know what Jessica has done to deserve being killed. All she has done is faked her asthma (which really is because she didn't want to be locked in a closet) and doing stuff normal teenagers do (i.e gossip) she's an innocent person overall.

The worse George has done was not give the letter to Shannon out of jelousy (and this is just speculation since it's not confirmed) but it's not like he knew his love was gonna go ballistic and want to kill the entire family in the future. It was a shitty deed but not somethingdeserving of death.

>> No.6005133

>>6005119
Seriously, I'll be dissapointed if Ep8 portrait is not Ange.

>> No.6005144

>>6005119

In other words an "escapism" end. Great.

Well its the most we can get I guess

>> No.6005149

>>6005133

I'll be dissapointed if we don't get ANYTHING about Kyrie and Rudolf in EP8. Espescially Kyrie

>> No.6005159

wait does Ange get burgered again in EP7?

nice.

>> No.6005163

>>6005159
Yep.

>> No.6005167

>>6005149
I'm sure we will. The Kyrie/Rudolf/Asumu backstory was saved for last. The end of Ep7 put the focus on them, now its time for us to see what happened with the whole Battler's birth shenanigans.

>> No.6005169

>>6005149
Fucking This.

Ryukishi better explain some shit. Kyrie's brief summary of the events in EP 6 was not good enough. We still have no idea what Asumu looks like or how she died.

>> No.6005170

How exactly does Angeburger go down this time around?

>> No.6005174

>>6005134
>The worse George has done was not give the letter to Shannon out of jelousy (and this is just speculation since it's not confirmed) but it's not like he knew his love was gonna go ballistic and want to kill the entire family in the future. It was a shitty deed but not somethingdeserving of death.

My biggest suspicion falls on Maria's rose.
That, and the fact he's said once or twice he'd be oka with offing his family for Shannon.

>> No.6005177

>>6005170
Bern burgers her during/after Ange basically goes insane from seeing the truth.

>> No.6005178

>>6005170
*Tea Party takes place, the whole killings were shown*
Bern: Well, Ange, I promised you the truth, here is it.
Ange: Bitch, you can't say that's true in Red.
Bern: [Red]This shit was true.[/spoiler]
Ange: *goes burger mode*

>> No.6005180

I thought AuAu was going to protect her. Well shit, there she goes again. Sorry Ange. Her dying again is kind of funny though.

>> No.6005182

I havent read Ep7 yet. But I heard theres loli Ange at the end in the chapel. Does she get a sprite?

>> No.6005185

>>6005182
Nope, no sprite.

>> No.6005191

>>6005180
The last gameboard (Ep8) will probably be opened by AuAu. And Battler wiil show her the truth of Rokkenjima as a whole, which will show no one is really a bad person. Bad choices and fate everywhere.

>> No.6005192

>>6005191
No, AuAu went to sleep.

>> No.6005196

What are the chances Maria started playing a Vuvuzela, and at some point they just decided to kill themselves.

>> No.6005197

>>6005178

I think Bern was being mercyfull when she turned Ange into mincemeat. I don't think Ange would have wanted to live after finding out that truth

>> No.6005208

>>6005196

As high as Asumu revealed to be a complete yandere Lesbian for Kyrie in EP8

>> No.6005211

>>6005196
They are high.

>> No.6005214

>>6005197
Are we even sure Bern did it to her? I took it as her almost self-destructing. Like... she rejected the red so hard that she caused herself to burgerize.

>> No.6005222
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6005222

So, I've been thinking. What if Ange REALLY is a burger?
Perhaps, Kyrie became delusional at some point, and though a burger she had bought was her daughter?

One day the burger got lost, Kyrie blamed the Ushiromiya family and decided to kill them.

>> No.6005223

>>6005174

>My biggest suspicion falls on Maria's rose.

I'm curious into what makes you believe George is involved with Maria's rose being missing

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6005241

>>6005214
I can picture the new hit at the witches most famous fast-food chain company.

"D-I-Y BURGER TIME!!"

You buy a whole Ange on a tray. It comes with written instructions:

"1-Repeat in red: Rudols and Kyrie did it! Your parents are murderers! Child murderers! Kyrie never loved you!"
"2- Follow with a cluel laugh."

And Taa-daa. Angeburger on the spot.

>> No.6005243

>>6005223
It being missing it's not a big issue. There's a storm, and that rose was almost dead.

However, he left that rose marked so that Maria could find it, and it's because Maria tried to find it that she met with Beatrice (or Kinzo, or Erika).

>> No.6005252

>>6005174

Isnt the point of Maria's rose to keep her in the garden, so Yasu can give the letter(s)?

If so, George is the one who gives the idea of marking the rose = George plotting with Shannon?

Is that what you mean?

>> No.6005270

>>6005252
Yes, something along those lines.

But, I'm just saying I find it suspicious, and nothing else.
George's behaviour also seems rather odd in some of his meetings with Shannon.

>> No.6005272

>>6005241
That Ronald looks even more evil than Bern.

>> No.6005282

>>6005243

It is possible. Although bear in mind "Beatrice" was also intending to kill George as well. If this is true then it just adds to the several reasons why George is a very pitiful person.

-His love is a DID
-His love is possibly a hermophite/boy with broken hermophite
-Is expected to die along with everyone by said lover.

Oh boy.

>> No.6005300

>>6005282
If he planned killing anyone, then I see no reason (for myself that is) to pity him when his plan backfired.

>> No.6005303

>>6005169

I also want to know how Kyrie's life was when she was raised by her family. I mean there has to be a reason why Kyrie is that badly screwed.

>> No.6005329

>>6005303
What if Kyrie is the one with DID, and Kasumi is another personality of hers?

R07 did say the anime and manga would contain some clues the SN didn't have, and well, for some reason Kyrie and Kasumi had the same VA. I can understand why Krauss and Okonogi did, but in the case of Kyrie, it really seems fishy if you ask me.

I acknowledge this makes little to no sense, but well... I just wanted to say it.

>> No.6005342

>>6005329
Considering they're sisters, it makes sense to share a VA.

>> No.6005344

>>6005329
no sense, no sense... Play forgery of the golden witch. You will understand why I am saying this. And you will probably be " Ho what."
But yeah, it would be interresting.

>> No.6005351

>>6005329
One of the big clues in the anime was that Kanon and Shannon could talk privately without anyone hearing them while in cramped spaces with other people. Cant think of anything else.

>> No.6005352

>>6005342
Maybe, but other than Krass and Okonogi (for obvious reasons) no one else does.

>> No.6005362

>>6005352
Obvious reason?
You lost me here... The fact that it is also his VA in higurashi?

>> No.6005369

>>6005362
Yes, Krauss's VA was also Okonogi's VA in Higurashi.
I think that couldn't be helped.

>> No.6005371

>>6005351
I would say that it is the case for almost everyone in the anime.
The only clue I've found so far is about the golden truth in ep3. I should watch it again now, after ep7 .

>> No.6005379

>>6005369
Well yeah, in this case, it is really suspicious. Especially because other people from the future, who are here for... 10 seconds, maybe less?, have their own VA.

>> No.6005395

>>6005371
Golden truth in Ep3?

>>6005379
I still think its just because they're sisters. It has no foreshadowing at all and it would be kinda..shitty. I hope we dont get anything like that.

>> No.6005409

Minor question. Is Will actually canon bisexual? Like, really?

>> No.6005414

>>6005329
Shannon and Kanon are the same person and they don't share the same VA. Beatrice also has a different VA.

I think they just gave Kasumi to Atsuko for budget reasons.

>> No.6005436

>>6005045
10 internets to you.

>> No.6005442

>>6005409
Who knows?

>>6005414
Well, in that case it's rather obvious, because they were needed to have different VAs. Even more so when there were Shkanon theories by that time. However, who would have thought Kyrie and Kasumi were the same person? But, all the same, I know this must be rubbish.

>> No.6005449

>>6005395
It seems so when Beatrice "kills" Eva. It have already been discussed many times but I'm too lazy to search it again.
>>6005414
"for budget reason" would be a stupid reason, in this case. I mean, there is a lot of other characters al lot less important than Kasumi, so if they wanted to save money, they had plenty of ways to do it. But they didn't.
>>6005414
For Beatrice, of course. It would be like giving the answer of the game in the 5th episode.The anime is supposed to be giving hint, not this.

>> No.6005461

>>6005449
>"for budget reason" would be a stupid reason, in this case.

Considering how little the dvd sales are it sounded more like a good move. Kasumi only shows up a couple times in the anime after all and there's no guarantee that Chiru will even be animated.

It's not like the anime didn't cut out red and blue text from the final EP 4 battle, so really it wouldn't shock me.

>> No.6005472

>>6005461
>>
Considering how little the dvd sales are it sounded more like a good move. Kasumi only shows up a couple times in the anime after all and there's no guarantee that Chiru will even be animated.

The problem is that there is a lot of characters in the future who are here for a really, really short time, like this guy from WH for example.
They didn't do it for them. That's why, IMO, it looks strange. And we have no hints about Kyrie and Kasumi being twins like Shmion (and even if we had it would be even worse for theorizing).

>> No.6005572
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6005572

>>6005178
Red? Did she say something?
1. Bern didn't finish the red, because of Ange's scream and we know it's highly context dependent.
2. Ange's scream "painted over" that red - it disappears quickly and there are no entry for this in the Back Log. No trace - it didn't happen.

Then Bern says: "return to the scrap meat" and she dies, she didn't die on her own.

>> No.6005582

>>6005572
> and there are no entry for this in the Back Log
What the--how the--GODDAMMIT RYUKISHIIIIIII

>> No.6005585

>>6005572
"Erika? Who's that?"

>> No.6005669

>>6005572
Fuck. Really? Can anyone confirm this?

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6005703

>>6005669
It was like this.

>> No.6005752

>>6005703
That much Red is enough to make me happy.

>> No.6005789

>>6005752
Never happened.

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6006249

>>6003990
HNGGGGGH Batora is so cute :3c

Also, maybe it's because it's been a long while since I read EP1-4, but I can't hate Beato and really hope that she'll get a good ending. Mind you, I mean meta-Beato.

>> No.6006334

>>6005582
>>6005572
>>6005703
>>6005789
What.the.fuck.is.happening.here.

>> No.6007005

>>6005703
>>6005703
>>6005703
>>6005703
>>6005703

FUCK.

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