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5997798 No.5997798 [Reply] [Original]

Fuck yeah Meiji Restoration.

>> No.5997805

>>5997798
>annexing Korea

You are a good man.

>> No.5997818
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5997818

>Hearts of Iron 2
>Play as Japan
>Conquer China, India, Dutch East Indies, and Australia
>Nuke America
>Feels good man

>> No.5997839

I tried doing exactly that just a few hours ago.

>start game
>watch economy implode with or without action of any kind
>debt skyrockets, power goes nowhere

What did you do to get shogun-area Japan civilized?

>> No.5997841

I played as Bavaria and am close to forming Germany. This is feeling nice. But god damn,them rebel uprisings.

>> No.5997844

>>5997841
How hard is it to play one of the tiny German states?

>> No.5997847

What was this game called again?

>> No.5997849

I kept playing as Austria and wanting to invade Russia, but shit could never get going so I just sat around watching the grass grow.

Then I decided to try forming Germany instead, then Russia launches a surprise invasion just as I was getting ready to go. I beat Russia's ass left and right, but they get the winning war score because my allies all launch lemming assaults at them and lose.

Fucking foreign relations, how do they work?

>> No.5997854

>>5997844

I think Bavaria was a secondary power when i started playing as it so it was not to hard. Just keep your infamy down so France dosent launch a war to contain you. Also, keep taxes on the rich to zero so they build factories,railroads,and all that good shit.

>> No.5997859

>>5997839

OP here, here's how it works.

1. At the start, you don't have as much income as you think you do. Build slower. Build mostly irregulars, those are cheap. Don't build artillery, you can't afford it. Raise taxes and lower spending. Start researching that tech that boosts mining and farming by 50% (forgot which one, but it's one of the three required for Meiji Restoration).

2. Build a few transports.

3. Attack Korea. Slowly reinforce your army as much as you can with irregulars and infantry. Use your starting armies as well. Don't do this until you think you're ready (5 transports at least, ~20 armies including your starting ones).

4. Take over Korea. This is easy.

5. Your tech completes. You will suddenly have FUCKTONS OF MONEY.

6. Start building a lot of ships and armies, you'll need it, if only to boost your military score. For prestige, I just maxed my armies and did a 6-month humiliation war against China, killing ~300k troops or so until I was nearly out of soldiers... and then they accepted the humiliation peace, giving me all the prestige I needed.

7. Finish the required techs, spam Man-of-Wars for military power if needed. Meiji Restoration here we come (you should have 1M+ gold by now unless you have magical spending powers).

>> No.5997868

>>5997854
Good idea, I love being the one pushing those buttons.

The poor class pays most of the taxes in this game. Tax the poor to fuel your expenses, give the middle class a break so they'll become ambitious and try to promote to upper class, and don't tax the upper class at all so they can play snowball fights with their money.

Be a Jew, win at imperialism. Feels good man.

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5997874

>>5997859

This Anon has earned his catgirl harem.

>> No.5997882

>>5997859

Also, this is my first time ever playing Victoria (didn't play the original). Played EU3 a bit a while back, but not much.

I did two or so run-throughs of the first year as Japan before I realized just how little money they actually had.

>> No.5997886

>>5997859

Oh, and around step 5, I also found a gold mine in one of my provinces. This probably means you will not end up with nearly the 1M I had if you do the same thing, because you're not as stupidly lucky.

>> No.5997889

>>5997882
Start with the beginner tutorials, they're a little annoying but short and to the point.

Then play as a smallish but strong great/secondary powerful, the German states are good choices. Fiddle around with the assorted switches and buttons until you start having questions to ask.

Then find what you need in the intermediate and advanced tutorials; there aren't any good guides or a wiki yet but those sections serve pretty well.

Finally, play as an uncivilized nation and rise to be a global rape machine.

>> No.5997892

>>5997859
Oh? Japan doesn't get civilized through events anymore?

>>5997844
>>5997841
When available, I always play my first match of every Paradox game as Bavaria or Bohemia (usually strong economically, small enough to be easily managed, and usually has great diplomatic relations with neighbors)

>> No.5997897

>>5997886
I don't think gold mines are (fully?) random. I started a new game as Austria 5-ish times in a row just to learn the ropes and struck gold in the same region at the same time.

But yeah, if you strike gold then that country is a keeper. Instead of providing you with goods which sell for a small amount of money, it just gives you a large amount of money instead which is factored directly into your balance sheet (gold is part of the budget window.)

>> No.5997911

>>5997897
No inflation mechanics?

>> No.5997921

i'm interested
where do i get this?

>> No.5997934

>>5997798
Is this Victoria 2?

>> No.5997946

>>5997911
I'm not sure. Trade goods rise and fall in prices, but I think pinning goods to gold prevents inflation. Before western paper money caught on in full, inflation just happened when coinage was debased - it was worth a smaller amount because it contained less gold.

>> No.5997971

>>5997946
>Trade goods rise and fall in prices, but I think pinning goods to gold prevents inflation.
At least in Vicky 1, that happens because of offer-demand relations in the World Market. In Vicky one, certain provinces changed RGOs through events, like getting precious metal where there was grain, but precious metal was just another commodity and didn't affect the income directly.

>> No.5997985

>>5997971

Ah.

I haven't played vic1, but in vic2 gold as a resource is treated directly as money - instead of harvesting a commodity it's raw cash.

There might be random events which change RGOs, but I haven't encountered them. I'm certain that any time I've seen gold come it was written in the scripts.

>> No.5997988
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5997988

Vicky 2, not so good

>> No.5998004

>>5997988
Whenever you put two country names together, it does what history did and just means that one country has been conquered by another.

Some nefarious invisible hand gave the Zulus civilization and led them on a campaign to east Asia.

>> No.5998016

Is there a cutoff year at which the game spontaneously ends? I thought it was specifically the events of the 19th century but then I noticed techs you can't begin to research until the 20th.

My only complaint is that this game tries too hard to be a history book. If you went back in time and changed the course of empires' histories, then it would be perfectly feasible for given events to happen earlier than set dates.

>> No.5998021

>>5998004
With mustard gas and planes.

I liked Vicky back when it was at least somewhat historically plausible. That, and I kind of miss the historical event chains like the Crimean War and the German Unification.

>> No.5998025

>>5998016
1936 is when the default game ends (and where Hearts of Iron 2/3/Arsenal of Democracy begins). You can always mod this, though.

>> No.5998026

>>5998016
Vicky 1 vanilla ended in 1920, I think. They use Hobsbawm's definition of 19th Century, I think.

>> No.5998027

>>5998016
>game tries too hard to be a history book
Shit is as sandbox as sandbox can be without losing flavor. Nothing is set in stone and any existing event can happen if the conditions are right or not at all. It's about plausibility rather than fidelity.

>> No.5998032

>>5998021
How do events work in Vicky 2?

>> No.5998048

>>5998032
I'm not sure; although it's all readable in the scripts there are a lot of them and I haven't found anyone else document this yet.

I only just started playing the game, but it looks like events are based on set conditions (what government/score/etc you have) and timelines (event can happen between years X and Y.)

Also a lot of events which might seem random clearly are not. By this point I'm sure there are a lot of pre-defined events that will happen no matter what; they're just part of your chosen country's challenge and strengths.

The thing that is so awesome about this game is that each country basically has its own loosely defined campaign. If you want to relax play as a great power, if you want a challenge play as an uncivilized nation.

>> No.5998057

>>5998048
So, apparently, it didn't change much.

>> No.5998074

More Japanese empires? You weeaboos have no imagination. I'm planning to play as China and spread secular thought across Asia.

>> No.5998077

Things to do in Victoria II:

1: play as UK and become a superpower; this isn't rigidly defined but just make it so that you cover the globe and great powers are no longer large enough to compete with you.

2: play as a German state and unite Germany. Alternatively, play as a 'civilized nation' level country and rise to great power status by uniting its own respective ethnic group.

3: play as Japan and rise to great power status by overcoming the nation-civilizing goal then conquering all of east Asia. Can be done similarly with any 'uncivilized nation' level country.

>> No.5998080

>>5998057
No, >>5998048 is wrong in saying that there are events that will always happen. It is different to vicky in that regard. They are like the events in EU3 or HoI3 with conditions and mean times to happen. The difference with the old style is the flexibility of conditions and times. There is, for example, no American civil war event - it's governed by the consciousness of pops. No Prusso-Austrian war, Franco-Prussian war, etc. A lot of it has been converted to decisions that you can enact when conditions are right.

>> No.5998082

>>5998074
Pre-industrial China was remarkably similar to modern China; the state was its own religion and the commoners did not have freedom of beliefs.

>> No.5998089

>>5998080
While it might be possible to prevent said events, there are many which will happen naturally as the necessary conditions are either already in place or will come about as a result of casual gameplay (raise money, build factories, etc.)

>> No.5998113
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5998113

>Play as Germany.
At this point i could just spam my massive army to mow everyone down.
Plus, i got like 3/4 of Afrika.

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5998119

>>5998113
That's awesome, Chen! Do it again!

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5998133

>>5998119

>> No.5998153

>play as Japan
>takes Midway and Pearl Harbor before 1920
>US surprise attack Pearl Harbor in 1920
>Lost my fleet in Pearl Harbor
Feels bad man

>> No.5998184
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5998184

I'm looking forward to the 1.2 patch. I've forced myself to get better at dealing with partisans, but I would still like it tuned down a bit. And I can't figure out supply lines for the life of me. I usually let the enemy pound on me while I stay garrisoned on my own land for cheap war points.

Would anyone like to try a large game of multiplayer tomorrow? There are about 5+ of us in #hotglue playing the game.

>> No.5998196

>>5998184
That's the problem; the advanced tutorials still leave 2/3 of the game's info out and there is no major wiki going (yet.)

Give it a while and everything will sorted out by other players.

>> No.5998202
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5998202

>>5998196
I just wish troop movement/supply was a little more like Hearts of Iron 2.

>> No.5998227

The more and more I see it, the more I want to get Vicky 2. Yet, I know that Paradox is going to release two or three expansions, becoming the "complete" game in which it was intended to be, which then leads to a large price drop on Steam.

>> No.5998233

>>5998227

And there will be 7 bugfix patches before the game is anywhere close to balanced.

>> No.5998242

>>5998202
Any real clue on why they made HoI3 in the first place? Seems with two expansion packs and a numerous amount of patches, it seemed quite clear that not much else could of been done to improve on HoI2.

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5998247

>>5998242
>Any real clue on why they made HoI3 in the first place?

I'm guessing it's for the same reason they made so many expansion packs.

>> No.5998257

>>5998233
Except the game is already pretty much balanced. It honestly just needs a little tweak with the rebels and craftmen/capitalists, it otherwise is fine. This isn't HoI 3.

>>5998227
It's worth getting right now in my opinion. I regretted buying HoI3 on launch and only got the EU3 expansions when httt came out if that means anything to you.

>> No.5998327

1: Tax the shit out of the peasants because there are more of them.

2: Abolish all taxes for the wealthy because they use their money to build up your might instead of stupid shit like feeding their children.

3: Subjugate African and Asian countries and make them your peons.

YAY MONEY

>> No.5998727

>>5998202
>Hearts of Iron 2
Confirmed for shitty unsuperior taste. Go back to gaia.

>> No.5998932

I cant figure out factories for shit. None of mine would work, i found out i had only 25% of the cement and machine parts supplied for them to run smoothly.
So i went and built 10 cement and 10 machine factories, set them to maximum supply and nothing happened. They just did not work or got any supplies while my most of my facotires produced at 1/10 of their output. So that priority is useless. Okay, then i thought maybe tear down 3/4 of my facotories so that the supplies reach the cement and machine part facotires. Done that and only to see that the produce rate is going down from 100 cement and 30 machine to 10 and 0. And i have no fucking clue why. You cant even let the Ai do the building, it just makes factories, which will instantly close down because they get zero money from the state.
So i had to start from the beginning and make 10 cement and machine before 1850. The whole game went smooth and i outclassed England easily with a small country.

tl;dr build the two of them early and plenty or you run into a shit situation that your factories get no supplies and you can't change it anymore.

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5998977

>>5998727
>HoI2
>shitty

>> No.5998984

>>5998932

You didn't have people.

>> No.5999005

JAPAN KOREA IS BEST KOREA

>> No.5999011
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5999011

Play as Japan, start the Rape of Nanjing.

>> No.5999018

>>5999011
DOW China, wargoals Humiliation (Rape)

>> No.5999022

>>5998932
Pretty useless to build tons of factories if you don't even have enough folks to fully fill one.
Better yet to build one or two in your most populated areas and then upgrade them for them to be able to enlist more folks rather than building more and more factories.

>> No.5999023

>>5999018
Why do you need the Humiliation?

captcha> are chenaman

>> No.5999031

Staying uncivilized is the best. You can annex other uncivilized countries right away without turning them into colonies.

>> No.5999032

Game looks fun, what's the learning curve like

>> No.5999038

>>5999032
Dwarf Fortress tier.

If you're willing to put in work and have a decent brain then things will fall into place as long as you follow the tutorials, which are a bit of effort but not endless droning tedium.

>> No.5999039

>>5999032
Paradoxical

>> No.5999055

>>5997798
I'm ok with Japan taking over worst korea.
But I object attacking BEST KOREA

>> No.5999058

>>5999055
This is my new Vicky2 Japan goal. Only worst Korea, with Best Korea as a Great Power...

>> No.5999059

Aren't the german states and the scandinavian countries the most fun to play?

They all start out as secondary powers of more or less influence and might.
So they at least have the power of secondary powers, meaning that you don't start out as shit, yet they aren't great powers, so you aren't the most powerful there is from the beginning.

Also, they all have fun "missions" or goals rather such as creating Germany or uniting Scandinavia to one Nation.
Germany starts more or less in the middle of everything, and Scandinavia neighbours greatpowers such as Russia, The UK, and Prussia from the start, and also have, and is also next to the vast amounts water.

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5999076

Yeeeeeees

>> No.5999090

>>5999076
Funny, 1747 was the year I inherited Poland in my Byzantium game.

>> No.5999091
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>>5999076
>Save file freezes at 1809 every time I try to play it(Mod goes to 1919) just as I invade Mainland China
Feels bad man

>> No.5999105

OK you faggots conviced me to download this game, what should I expect?

>> No.5999130
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5999130

For some reason two members who could have easily destroyed me, Austria and Bugundy, accepted unity

>> No.5999137

The very first time I ever played Shogun Total war, I wasn't allt on bright on how to play.
I focused a lot on culture and technology, and less so on my actual armies, even though my armies were generally better equipped due to better technology.

So I managed to become the most sophisticated clan of Japan, yet my weak millitary policies soon found me trapped.
The weakest clan of all, previously my ally, was swayed by my greatest enemy, a clan who not only stole my ally, but who also had invaded and conquered my most precious island and territories.
Enraged by this sudden turn of events I at least managed to conquer my Ex-Ally, afterwards however my situation did not look good and I couldn't see how I were to relclaim my lost territories.
So regretfully I put all my efforts into forcing a peace treaty with my (all so hated) enemy in order to save what I had left.
Not long after that however I finally got my precious Geisha after I went higher and higher up in the tech tree.

"Hmm, geisha eh? Not bad considering what I was after was the tea house, let's see what this unit can do"
I moved my geisha in on that dreaded "ally" of mine.
Assassinated him, and then one turn later.
>My lord, the mighty 'clan leader' have fallen, and is without a heir, and it turns out that most of the people have searched their way to us, their most precious ally instead of falling to the class of petty rebels"
And thus I aquired more than half of entire Japan apperently, because I was their "most precious" "ally".
At that point I had practically won.
The dude I had assissinated apparently had the second most land of Japan, and combined with my land I became the strongest there was.
Also, as he had built up a decent millitary nation, combined with the tech I had available I easily became the strongest clan.
>most precious ally
Yeah right.

>> No.5999150

Explain to me please.
How does colonies work?

There is this whole "minimum liferating" requirement to be met when starting colonies.
But how does that work? I noticed how there was a tech under "chemistry" and "medicine" that lowered the minimum by 5.
I also noticed how there was some late culture tech that lowered it by a whole 10.

But is that really it? That's barely enough to colonize anything, at least in africa.

>> No.5999163

>>5999105
Bugs and rage.

>>5999150
The stuff against malaria: -5
Machine guns: -10
Nationalism and imperalism: -10
You can colonize everything if you have them all.

>> No.5999165

Is it possible to alter the world map to include new custom made territories?
And if that's too much of a hassle, what country should be replaced with Gensokyo, were I to do a mod?

Some African region?

>> No.5999174

I heard that capitalists are horrible in this game due to buggy AI and stuff.
But can't you get around that with a non-liberal goverment?

>> No.5999177

>>5999165
Japan, duh.

>> No.5999200

One thing that really bugged me with this game, was how the map didn't "loop".
Ok so I want to reach india eh? Ok, I could simply sail north east and I should be there in no trouble.
>Edge says fuck you
Ok... so I have to sail around russia and china or go all the way around Africa... nice.

>> No.5999201

Why the hell does /jp/ have the first decent VickyII thread still active?

>> No.5999272 [DELETED] 

fuck yeah 6000000 get

>> No.5999275 [DELETED] 

/b/

>> No.5999278 [DELETED] 

6000000 GET

>> No.5999289 [DELETED] 

http://anti-acta.com/bomb.htm

don't let them take your anime away!

>> No.5999284 [DELETED] 

>>5999275
is here

>> No.5999307 [DELETED] 

get

>> No.5999308 [DELETED] 

I'm in your /jp/ stealin' your get for /b/

>> No.5999316 [DELETED] 

Get!

>> No.5999333 [DELETED] 

>>>/b/ wants your get!

>> No.5999328 [DELETED] 

>>5999308
mods are faster here, also, get

>> No.5999347 [DELETED] 

5999400 get

>> No.5999336 [DELETED] 

5999388 get!

>> No.5999337 [DELETED] 

go go gadget dick

>> No.5999340 [DELETED] 

wats a get

>> No.5999341 [DELETED] 

this get is for /b/

>> No.5999355 [DELETED] 

i is in your /jp/, stealin' your get
/b/

>> No.5999356 [DELETED] 

get

>> No.5999366 [DELETED] 

für mein Führer!

>> No.5999374 [DELETED] 

>>5999365

>> No.5999377 [DELETED] 

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>> No.5999401 [DELETED] 

Sieg Hail >>>/b/

>> No.5999434
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5999434

THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN!

>> No.5999453 [DELETED] 

GET for >>>/b/

>> No.5999503 [DELETED] 

GET >>>/b/

>> No.5999535 [DELETED] 

>>5999600 GET for >>>/b/

>> No.5999543 [DELETED] 

>>5999200
>the world is flat, not round

>> No.5999634

>>5999200
That's one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

>> No.5999747 [DELETED] 

get for >>>/b/

>> No.5999773 [DELETED] 

>>5999200
what

>> No.5999761

>>5999165
Magical Garden of Eastern Paradise, East of Japan. Map Mod

>> No.5999797

>>5999174
>but capitalism is buggy in real life

>> No.5999795 [DELETED] 

GET >>>/b/

>> No.5999837

>>5999797
drr hrr

>> No.5999862 [DELETED] 

GET for >>>/b/

>> No.5999928 [DELETED] 

>>>/b/

>> No.5999987 [DELETED] 

GET
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>> No.6000093 [DELETED] 

almost there >>>/b/ rothers

>> No.6000164 [DELETED] 

>>6000000

>> No.6000203 [DELETED] 

>>>/b/266202098

>> No.6000258 [DELETED] 

>>6000235
You forgot to mention the crappycake carameldansen song that was used as well.

>> No.6000269
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6000269

>Unite Germany as Bradenberg
>Austria and France still more powerful than me
>Ally with France against Austria
>Take almost all of German Austria, Rhineland and Poland with help from France
>Ally with England, end alliance with France when they annex Lorraine and Luxemburg
>Attack France, push their forces all the way out of the lowlands until they counterattack and fight to a stand off
>England deploy large army out of Brittany and occupy most of western France up to Paris
>Force France to cede remaining German territory and release Lorraine

>> No.6000264 [DELETED] 

As if /b/ wasn't enough, we get mods encouraging the /b/ behavior.

>> No.6000271 [DELETED] 

>>6000255

A get on the most hated board on 4chan really isn't something to brag about.

>> No.6000273 [DELETED] 

Well I guess it's finally time to find some where else to post instead of this shit hole.
Thanks for making the decision for me mod.

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6000283

>my face

>> No.6000282 [DELETED] 

>>6000273

nice english

>> No.6000350

>>6000269
>britain allied with germany

WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE

>> No.6000357

>>5999076
Enjoy your rebels. I sure did when I inherited the France+Castille combo at the same time. It also ruined the game because the last great enemy has fallen in a silly way.

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Pig disgusting yankees.

>> No.6000375

>>5999165
Paradox games are usually piss easy to mod. Most of the things can be done by altering the files with notepad.

>> No.6000382
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INDIA STRONG

Well, not very strong - low money, shitty research, horrible troops, bad sliders, everyone around me has the better land tech. And Europeans will be coming to take my ports. I'm pretty much fucked.

INDIA STRONG

>> No.6000389

This thread reminds me I still have to learn how to play Europa Universalis. Feels bad man.

>> No.6000396

>>6000389
Go play now. It's pretty much the easiest paradox grand strategy game, you'll get the hang of it. The hardest one is Vicky 1 I think, I could never get the hang of it.

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>>6000357
Yeah I was kind of pissed off how you can't inherit cores on different culture groups anymore with the beta patch. 50 years of overextension = fuckignsdfihaoasdas.
I managed to hold it together in the end though while still expanding. Not pictured is political control of eastern india from south to north because I forced Scandinavia to release most of India (which they controlled despite being babbies for manpower).

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>>6000417
My recent attempt at rebuilding Rome. Best part of the game was watching the British clusterfuck. Great Britain was formed than lost everything to religious and other rebels and currently only controls London.
I wanted to free South American colonies but all the important cores are in Castile/Granada territory. So I freed Inca.

>> No.6000544
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>>5999091
Whats even more rageworthy is that this mod has a divided Japan (its a bit shitty its possibly in early beta because it only has province names as nations, not clans and has generic troops "eastern horse archers" for example. Mahayana is also the main religion in Japan, not Shinto for some reason.) so I started out as one province Owari. After several failed attempts due to being an easy target for other provinces which held more than one territory I was finally able to take control of central Japan and from there began taking the required provinces to unite Japan.

It was looking a bit ominous when Korea landed, took Harima and Nagato and allied with one of my main rivals. Rebels forced them out eventually thankfully.

When I finally did declare a united Japan 1/3 of the country was still under the control of seperate nations.

Annexed Taiwan, conquered Korea, gained a border with Castile in Aceh to westernize, Ming collasped, Chu nearly reunited them, Mangalai khanate defeated and splintered them also annexed 90% of Manchu, inherited Champa, colonized Siberia, annexed north Indoc, defeated strong Pegu (had same tech as me) in west Indoc, annexed Hainan and Hong kong from the Kwangtong, defeated Mangalai and forced them out of North China and Machu, expanded colonies into Pacific Islands, prepared to invade southern China, saves freezes everytime it gets to the specific date of 25 March 1809.

To say i'm a pissed off after all that effort is an understatement.

>> No.6000558

>>6000544
Tried to go back 10-20 years? It usually helps me.

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>>6000558
I was thinking of doing that, but so much has happened in the last 10 years. Most of the pacific I control was gained during that time and it may or may not have been before I vassalised Shan. I also tried 5 years back and the problem happened even sooner.

I bet its because 90% of France including their Turkey holdings is under rebel control and mass defection is overloading the game or something

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Taking over the entire world through force of arms: not so good. Waging an endless series of wars against larger nations and watching them splinter: so good.

Anyway, bought Vicky 2 yesterday because of you fags and your constant threads. Not regretting it.

>> No.6000730

>>6000700
Liberation is the best casus belli. Cutting massive empires to pieces with no infamy and for next to nothing is so wonderful.

>> No.6000748

>>5997798
Remember to ethnically cleanse the Korean peninsula and liberate Manchukuo from oppressive Qing rule.

I'm gearing up for another war right now, this time to liberate Mongolia and maybe push further south.

>> No.6001091

>>5998153
>US invades Japan mainland
>China declares war on me
>Korea declares war on me
FML

>> No.6001157

One of the things you need to watch out when you play Japan is Britannia.
Once you take over Siam and go down and take over Johore be sure to do it quick becuase relation with uk go down quickly and once they declare you need to be sure to have already have many guards and researched up until machine gun.
Get the same techs for attacking China, watch them drop in the 1000s while you lose 50 men or something. Take over most populated centers to get more Men so that you can take them all over. by 1880 you should have half of them conquered.

>> No.6001354

>better Paradox threads on /jp/ than on /tg/
Damn it all! Damn it all to hell!

>> No.6001395

>>6001354
/tg/=/v/

>> No.6001444

Hey GAIZ
Are the niggers any good in this game?
which country is strongest/best?

>> No.6001907

God damnit. I'm stuck at 9th place as Sweden and i'm in Russias sphere so I can't declare war on them to liberate Finland to create Scandinavia.

Tried grabbing a few non protected German states but still at 9th place. Urgh...

How do I break free?

>> No.6001923

>>6001907
1. Declare war on Mother Russia
2. Bloody battles
3. ???
4. Unconditional surrender to Russia.

>> No.6001925

>>6001354
/tg/ has been pretty horrible for the last 6 months or so. /int/
is pretty good for paradox threads (that's the only thing they are good for outside of endless international shitstorm)

>> No.6001935

Prussiafag here, first play and I have a problem. I invaded Netherlands with a good reason, and for some reason I ended up at war with Portugal and Russia, who were in a fucking military alliance with me. I don't believe the Netherlands was backed by them when I invaded. What gives?

>> No.6001950

>>6001935
Be sure that they are not in the spere of influence of the ones you are attacking or somehow allied to them. If they aer in the sphere remove them and get them in your own, discredit them and so on.
Be sure to have high relations with the nations, allied and friendly to reduce backstabbing.
I tested it out and if you have some 100 points good relation they are less likely to attack you as if you had - or under 100. But that does not mean that someone random declares on you, just lowers the risk.
For example: I played Japan and took over Siam, my relation with britain was -15 and half in the war they declared on me and just mowed me down. I reloaded and waited 1 year or longer and got up to 100 and britain did not declare on my anymore.
But if you are a powerhouse and got high military and industry then you can be sure that no one will declare on you becuase they are shit scared.

>> No.6001954

>>6001935
Probably a containment war to keep you in check and maintain the status quo.

"Don't rock the boat" and all.

>> No.6001970

>>6001950
Damn. I spent a bunch of diplomacy points on appeasing Russia and now they're raping me. Anyway, that's good to know for next time.

>> No.6002007

>>6001970
Only the beginning is hard. once you have like 400 or 500 military points you are golden and no one will most likely touch you anymore. Even if you declare war on someone with allies they wont help them.

The only Nation you ever need to watch out for is Britain anyway, this could get a bit of nasty and draw out long and cost you men and resources that you might need someplace else. But most of the time they don't really care what is going on in europe, like in real life. Only their colonies they defend till the last. Or when you take possible future colonies from them they get angry.

Russia is a joke anyway they got too much of a big land and in all my games i took over moscow before i met any real fighting force. The only real reason why you dont take them over is that when you start with 400 stacks you will be down to 100 once you reach a bit past moscow. Get Poland and Minsk and some closer states from them and for the rest of the game just don't care about them anymore.

>> No.6002069

I just reached rank 7 and i'm still not a Great Power. Is it because i'm still in Russias sphere? What gives?

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my attempt at leading norway over the atlantic for a pre-emptive scandinavian golden age

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JAPAN CAN INTO THAILAND

>> No.6002467 [DELETED] 

>>6002103
>1476
What

>> No.6002508 [DELETED] 

>>6000000
>>5999999
>>6000006

>> No.6003359
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>playing as CSA
>casus belli on Burma
>it's below China
>send fleet of 20 steam transports
>have no problem winning the war
>have army get to shoreline just in time to see entire fleet sink
>make 20 more steam transports
>everyone is aboard and heading back to CSA
>notice that instead of going straight back they're making a "shortcut" through Europe
>almost home
>they enter the Bermuda triangle
>fleet is never to be seen again

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>>6003359

>> No.6003395

I'm not very good at this game, I should've played a tutorial or something before starting.

>> No.6003443

>>6003395
The point isn't winning. The point is causing as much chaos as you can.

>> No.6003451

>>6003443
Yea, but I wanted to conquer places too, but I'm not sure what I'm doing. I really wanted to play as Canada, but they weren't an option.

>> No.6003459

>>6001935
Most Paradox games have a "bad boy" system: be a warmonger and everyone will hate you.

>> No.6003475

>>6003451
Star a game with the UK. Go to the diplomatic menu and liberate Canada as a satellite. Save game and quit. Select the save file on the first single player menu, Canada will be playable. You will have to either cheat or declare and win a war against the UK to acquire freedom, though.

>> No.6003485

>>6003475
Even better, just liberate Canada and press ` then type "tag CAN" no quotes.

>> No.6003518

>>6003485
>>6003475
Thanks, I'll try that out. And then conquer the US.

>> No.6003713

Can someone mind linking a copy of EU3 that doesn't have a broken tutorial? I really wanted to get into it, but could not for the life of me figure out what I was doing.

>> No.6003727

>>6003713
Read the wiki.

>> No.6003899

>>6003475
sounds like fun and a challenge. I always wanted to play as Australia too.

>> No.6003985

>>6003899
In Vicky 1 Australian either starts waaaaaaaay too late or is stuck with horrible circumstances. To give you an idea, by 1936 you pretty much have no national population (the crushing majority is made up of aborigines, witch number less than 500,000), so you can't do anything with the POPs. You are also way off the main immigration routes and it's not like your backwards population will let you easily reach democracy.

>> No.6004030

>EU3 Ming
>built a huge transport fleet and soldiers to store
>"fuck you Japan, Korea, and southeast Asia, I'm not going for you this time"
>go west to Europe
>conquer Papal States and various east European states
>get the shit kicked out of me by the rest of Europe
Man, mercs in HttT really suck compared to the original.

>> No.6004386

>>6003475
How do I win a war against the UK, when I can't declare war because I'm a satellite?

>> No.6004775

>>6004386
Never mind, I just edited my save file.

>> No.6006094

>>6003727
A wiki is fine and all, but I want to actually learn the interface and how things work.

>> No.6006103

>>6006094
What do you want to know.

>> No.6006121

>>6006103
I just need a tutorial to play, more than anything.

>> No.6006132

/jp/ fucking sucks at vicky

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>>6006132
U mad?

>> No.6008908

What are some good mods for each game?

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