Powerlevels: broken

[Anonymous No.]

lets take for example Cirno. She is the strongest... fairy. A fairly big fish in the frozen lake, when compared to the other children/fairies.

How can someone compare an Ice Elemental Fairy with the horrors that inhabit the night, the elder god sleeping in Mahogiya, the death goddess in Hagugyokoro and the Force of Nature in the Garden of the Sun?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think people understand

That the only way to kill cirno is to destroy all Ice everywhere

[No.]

nobody is stronger than others because of the rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983003
Cirno is just 50 years old. Ice has always existed, and in the end, ice and cold will be everywhere. Cirno will die or cease to exist, but someone will take her mantle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983003
I don't think you understand.


What a horrible thread by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983019
Cirno is supposedly at least 60 years old.
To notice that something happens every 60 years you would think she saw it at least a few times.
Cirno is older than time itself.

[Anonymous No.]

Easy, She just has to freeze them. No middleman. No scheming.

Also when you consider she basically controls all of the laws of thermodynamics. She really is powerful.

You can't gap into a block of ice. hard to hit someone with a death butterfly when there's a solid wall of H2O blocking your path. Yuuka is pretty much the only one who would pose a real threat, but plants aren't known to survive the extreme cold.

Face it bro. Cirno is the strongest.

[Anonymous No.]

Fairly easy. Just make out Cirno to be something big. What aspect of nature does Cirno represent? There is no large ice formation or naturally cold place in Gensokyo and the lake is represented by Daiyousei. Then again what is Cirno's power? It's not control of just ice as that's just frozen water, she can freeze things that aren't just water like bullets as seen in the previous game. Her spellcards indicate creation of intense amounts of cold. What aspect of existence does cold represent? Loss of heat, energy. It is entropy. Cirno represents that which will end the universe. Heat death. She will reign supreme over any force of nature and that is why she is the strongest fairy.

See, that wasn't so hard.

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>>5983019
>Cirno is just 50 years old.

This is what happens when you learn about Touhou canon from /jp/ and fail to read carefully.

It's "at least 60", inferred from the fact that she remembers events that happened 60 years ago. Nothing more is known about her age. As far as we know, she's eternal, existing at least since humans started personifying natural phenomena.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983051
If someone were to personify the cold, one would think of a callous, nasty, evil woman

Oh wait.

[Anonymous No.]

I remember reading somewhere that Cirno was the embodiment of ice, and thus would always exist as long as ice exists.

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>>5983067
>callous, nasty, evil woman

Unfortunately, Reimu has more important job to do.

And Cirno is as cold and nasty as fairy can be. Fairies just aren't suited for that.

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>>5983077
If that is so, why is Rumia, the very personification of Darkness, so weak and dumb?

She is inferior to a human. I bet she doesn't even have ten fingers.

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>>5983100
She's just a kid. Let her grow up.

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>>5983077
Cirno represents the cold. Not just ice. That's just frozen water.

>>5983100
Maybe how a youkai's element is doing in the real world affects how they do in Gensokyo. We've pretty much conquered darkness for the most part. There's so much light pollution going on that the sky becomes purple at night and children sleep easy with nightlights. Maybe that's why she is sealed. Humanity's effort to light up all those dark places and night itself has made her the weak thing she is.

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>>5983100
From eosd character descriptions:

>There is no evidence of her ability in the game, but in truth, places around her are always as dark as night.

Also, I don't think it was stated she was dumb, just simple minded.

[Voile's other hermit !!YEZvwvDFX75 No.]

Rumia's pose is making me think bad things, damn you, I have weakness for that sort of pose ;_;

>>5983100
Clever clever

Who's comparing Cirno to what you mentioned, OP?

All she did was kick some fairys' butss and crossed swor-erh, danmaku with a witch who made a mistake by underestimating her

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>>5983077
>reading somewhere

On /jp/, probably.

This is true, though. To quote Akyuu, fairies are "the true identity of natural phenomena themselves". That Cirno's a fairy of ice and that the fairies do not die needs no quotation, as it's repeated all the time throughout the story. What you add it all together, you get just what you said.

[Anonymous No.]

Their abilities have nothing to do with their power. Take Yuuka for example. While she has a weak ability(manipulation of flowers), she's one of the strongest powers in gensokyo.

Cirno has a relatively strong power but since she's childish, she doesn't use it's fullest. Same with Rumia who also has a powerful ability.

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>>5983100
The ribbon seals her powers, numb-nuts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983141
That witch also said she would have some problems dealing with that fairy even if she was serious. And that witch is by no means weak at danmaku.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how many people noticed it was CCirno's clothes that were tattered at the end of the 12.8 extra.

[Anonymous No.]

The biggest mistake made in those threads is assuming youkai have complete dominion over their portfolios.

Yuka is a flower youkai. That doesn't mean she is the embodiment of every flower ever, just that she draws power from flowers. There are presumably myriads of flower youkai (that is more explicit with insect youkai, which were once a force to be reckoned with, but slowly diminished. ) Rumia isn't darkness incarnate for the same reason a Fire Elemental in D&D doesn't represent every fire ever.

Saying Cirno is strong because heat death will be the fate of the universe is akin to saying humans have conquered the universe because they're made (amongst other things) hydrogen and helium and those two constitute the majority of mass in the universe (eat a dick, dark matter. ) Cirno's death is unlikely because she's powered by a strong aspect of nature, but in no way does she have full control over that concept.

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>>5983141
Dude, you beat all those in PoFW.
You beat them with Mystia too, and she's canonly bird-brained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983270
Everyone is either very angry or outright retarded when ZUN writes them.

Just look at Sakuya opening windows in space.

[Anonymous No.]

Global warming will kill Cirno.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983047
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-11030889
Cirno confirmed for universal domination.

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>>5982989
What's broken about this? Lets put this in monetary terms.

Cirno is a part timer working 4 hours a week at minimum wage, any of the big ones you mentioned is Bill Gates.

I say monetary term because I just got my pay check and was horrified to find that my mom makes more money in 4 hours than I do in 1 and a half months. Fuck.

I feel like cirno ;_;

>>5983100
Rumia was never stated to be a personification of anything. Fairy's a personifications of shit, from simple elements, to "jokes". You know how you lose your keys and some people say a little man did it? Yeah in gensokyo, keep losing your keys and saying a little man did it and eventually a little man will pop into exists and his sole purpose in life is to steal your keys.

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>>5983588
Phone sex?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983601
Gynecologist
But if phone sex was profitable I'd put my sexy voice on and start making a profit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983100
Rumia is neither weak nor dumb.

[Anonymous No.]

Fairies are weak and simple minded (Simple minded=/= dumb) and the only thing that makes them a nuisance is that they can't die and take a joke too far. The fuckers just keep coming back and they don't have a concept of safety since they respawn when killed.

[Anonymous No.]

oh god rumia is the fucking devil get her away ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983716
no!

[Adolf Hitler loves !RUMIAxIXcU No.]

>>5983616
Rumia is my waifu.

She is everything a man could ever desire.

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>>5983716
That's not very kind anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983739
Hands off my daughter, Hitler!

[Adolf Hitler loves !RUMIAxIXcU No.]

>>5983763
Rumia and I were meant for each other!

She loves me and I love her back!

come Rumia, let's leave this world and travel with our Vril and Thule friends to the Andromeda system, where we can start a new life together.

[Anonymous No.]

Rumia would be more powerful if Gensokyo was located near North Korea

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>>5983019
Explains her forgetfulness.
She can't die permanently, right?
Did we ever think why she can't die? Perhaps every time she's shot down, a new fairy is crowned "Cirno" and takes the place of the fallen one. Ice Fairies might be generally the same, leading to having the same personality no matter how many deaths "she" suffers.
So in reality, Cirno can die, but a new Cirno takes her place every time she's shot down.
That's depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983839
>So in reality, Cirno can die, but a new Cirno takes her place every time she's shot down.

And they've all managed to buy the exact same dress and hair bow.

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>>5983879
What makes you sure the outfit is unique and is not standard among ice fairies?

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>>5983879
just like Saber can materialize her clothing and armor

[Anonymous No.]

>Mahogiya
>Hagugyokoro

OP confirmed for Dyslexsia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5983205
Except Yuuka is the "Flower Master of the Four Seasons". She can make flowers bloom at whim. Life. Creation, not destruction, is true power.

That is why Yuuka is so humongously mighty.

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>>5984363
>she can make flowers tilt towards the sun
Fixed. If you believe Akyu.

[Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 No.]

>>5982989

>Yuuka
>Force-a-nature

Ya listening? Okay. Grass grows, sun shines, and brotha, I HURT PEOPLE.

IF YOU WAS FROM, WHERE I WAS

[Anonymous No.]

>>5984368
花を操る事が出来る能力とは、花を咲かせてみたり、向日葵の向きを太陽に
向けたり、枯れた花を元通り咲かせたりする程度の物である。

Perfect memento in Strict Sense quote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5984394
Oh, my mistake. She can make flowers bloom and SUNFLOWERS tilt towards the sun. That's still pretty damn weak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5984404
Imagine a world where flowers no longer can bloom.

Imagine the deserted wasteland a couple decades later.

Green is life, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5984441
Most flowers aren't green. Your post is invalidated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5984404
Her "ability" is weak, but her power is insane. Is like giving Suika/Yuugi power of making fruits rot, they may have a weak ability, but they are naturally extremely strong.

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>>5984560
Yes, I know, but this guy is trying to make out the power as useful. If you're going to do that, just go Tohonifun level and let her bloom flowers in eyesockets.