Umineko 7: Requiem of the Golden Witch General

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Umineko 7: Requiem of the Golden Witch General Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:33:12 2010 No.5954812 [Reply] [Original]

>>5953135
is the former.

Also, the more new fanart, the merrier!

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:35:20 2010 No.5954830 [DELETED]

here is a little theory i came up with
well.. two related ones

1.

shannon exists, but dies before the game starts, leaving the body intact to use for closed rooms and such
yasu exists
kanon exists
17 people on the island
yasu can get around the red because the person actually named shannon dies
yasu dresses up as shannon and kanon when the need arises

2.
shannon exists
yasu exists
17 people on the island
yasu and shannon both dress as as kanon when needed, yasu dresses up as shannon when needed.

1+2

shannon loves george (aka joji aka FAT FAT FAT FAT)
yasu loves battler
kanon loves jessica
yasu is male/female, probably female though

inb4 people tear it apart...

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:37:12 2010 No.5954842 Am I the only one feeling that we've been beating around the bush these past few threads? Let's do something new this time. Translating the controversial Tea Party would be something. (fuck those lazy fucks at Witch Hunt)

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:37:12 2010 No.5954844 File: 34 KB, 400x605, whatthefuckp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] shkanontrice anyone?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:39:12 2010 No.5954852 File: 1.27 MB, 1830x3031, 7425463.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who is this? She keeps on coming up in my pixiv searches, but I've never seen her before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:39:12 2010 No.5954853 >>5954842 >Am I the only one feeling that we've been beating around the bush these past few threads? That's because people who haven't played the game are arguing things contained in the game, so stuff just keeps repeating.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:39:12 2010 No.5954855 >>5954830 We see the entire process of Shannon, Beatrice and Kanon's creation by Yasu very, very clearly. There is no need for theories anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:40:12 2010 No.5954866 >>5954852 Probably a fancharacter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:43:12 2010 No.5954877 File: 156 KB, 384x595, 4247652.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >my face during the Tea Party Now i love Bern much more Btw, anyone can translate Claire's TIP?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:43:12 2010 No.5954880 >>5954853 Damn. Next thread's header needs to contain a summary.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:44:12 2010 No.5954887 Yasu doesn't make sense as a culprit, but does explain how many of the mysteries were created. Who do you think is the most likely culprit? The adults all have plausible motives, as does FAT. captcha: Wizard wounivie

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:45:12 2010 No.5954893 >>5954887 >Who do you think is the most likely culprit? Uh, Kyrie and Rudolf, with accidents mixed in. You know, like how it was explained this episode?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:47:12 2010 No.5954903 I hate whoever puts foreshadowing in the OP songs. >IT'S A STORY OF MY LOVE Okay, got that.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:49:12 2010 No.5954911

>>5954877
Strange because I think I can't hate her more now.

>>5954887
Eva
Hideyoshi
Battler
Maria
George
Jessica

Are confirmed for 100% innocent and no bad intentions.
Eva killed because she couldn't allow Ange to know the truth about Kyrie hating her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:49:12 2010 No.5954917 >>5954903 I love the EXPLOSION in the EP5 OP. Shit was obvious as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:50:12 2010 No.5954921 File: 118 KB, 728x1076, m10_19.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Suddenly you remember the flashback dream Rudolph had sleeping in EP2

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:51:12 2010 No.5954932 >>5954917 But the explosion in ep5 was more symbolic 'breaking the box' to see the truth. But yeah.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:51:12 2010 No.5954934 >>5954893 They seem more like they were seizing the opportunity, though. Although, Rudolf saying in episode 1 'I will probably die tonight' contradicts this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:52:12 2010 No.5954940 File: 240 KB, 640x480, kyrieeeeeeee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] So... anyone else disappointed we didn't get a Kyrietrollolol face during this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:53:12 2010 No.5954943 I don't like the way the first way R07 told us of the explosion was just casually in the TIPS. It seemed a bit sneaky.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:53:12 2010 No.5954946 >>5954934 It was most likely about something else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:53:12 2010 No.5954947 >>5954934 Rudolph says that for fake his death or something like "Hey son i'm gonna kill your family and maybe Eva or that maid you forgot rips my face".

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:54:12 2010 No.5954949
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I think we should all take this moment to laugh at Battler's naivete.

Seriously, though, no wonder he's so depressing now. He got suckered hard by his family and ended up killing the woman he loved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:55:12 2010 No.5954955 Someone earlier pointed something interesting. Since every EP is a ficiton so far (even EP1) and Battler got trapped in Meta World after EP1....how is that possible? Is Meta World just a mean to prolong the narrative? Or it is pure bullshit?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:55:12 2010 No.5954956

>>5954943
well you had the whole
>you can't access the front port
in ep4. Also the policemen unability to relate the whole incident to the epitaph which was perfectly written in the mansion.
you knew something BIG happened, just gave you a confirmation to give a last use to Erika.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:56:12 2010 No.5954960 >>5954949 Poor guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:56:12 2010 No.5954963 I thought people had already agreed that Kyrie isn't the culprit. She and Rudolph were simply driven mad by greed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:56:12 2010 No.5954965 By the way, Bern turned Ange back into hamburger after destroying her mind with the truth.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:56:12 2010 No.5954966

HAVEN'T READ THE EPISODE/ A SUMMARY YET? READ THIS:

- This game itself takes place in a different kakera than the usual ones, meaning: the child from 19 years ago isn't chucked from a cliff, but is instead raised as the new heir to the family. He's called Leon (Lion/Lyon/Rion), his gender is unknown (but for the sake of homolust we think he's a guy) and makes part of Krauss/ Natsuhi's family. The detective is Willard H. Wright, brought forth by Bern. In a world with no Beatrice, Will sets off to discover the truth behind the "real" Beatrice and Kinzo's past.
- If the child would have indeed been chucked off the cliff, it would have miraculously survived and been brought up in an orphanage then selected as a servant for the mansion. It is given the name Yasu, and it's a highly traumatised child that, in time, develops a multitude of personalities, including Shannon, Kannon and Beatrice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:56:12 2010 No.5954967 >>5954956 Wasn't there a moment in the anime showing a photo with the status in the island during 1998? Captcha: the evarrica

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:56:12 2010 No.5954968 >>5954943 Dude. Reread EP4, the hints are practically jumping out at you. There's a reason why it's always called "the Rokkenjima incident" and no one can prove it was a murder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:58:12 2010 No.5954975 Magical Chef Gohda is the culprit.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:58:12 2010 No.5954978

>>5954963
It depends on what you call the culprit.
In the end, in the real world, there is no rule of Knox or Dine or whatever, there is no rule that say that only 1 culprit exist.
Kyrie and Rudolf killed people, they chose to do so of their own will.
They didn't plan it but they did it.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:59:12 2010 No.5954980 >>5954967 Yep, there's a BIG plain where the mansion should be

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 19:59:12 2010 No.5954983 File: 384 KB, 800x800, 12589627.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Was this ever translated?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:00:12 2010 No.5954988 >>5954975 More like the hero.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:02:12 2010 No.5954997 File: 67 KB, 354x438, its_kyrie_time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey Kids! Guess what Time it is?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:02:12 2010 No.5954998 >>5954911 >George >Jessica How are they confirmed innocent?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:04:12 2010 No.5955005

>>5954966
- Back to Kinzo's past. During WWII, he is on Rokkenjima when a woman called Beatrice Castiglioni arrives by submarine on the island. She is part of the wealthiest European family around, and in her submarine lies the gold that will later prompt the story. They fall in love, marry, but Beatrice dies during childbirth. Kinzo starts losing his mind, the child ends up looking just like her mother. In his madness, Kinzo molests his own daughter, who bears the child from 19 years ago (Yasu/Leon, depending on the kakera)

- The Tea party however takes place in a kakera where Yasu (and not Leon) is present. Events transpire as if in a normal game, but this time the adults put their minds together and solve the epitaph. Beatrice (most likely Yasu in drag) warns them that there's a bomb set to explode in there, Natsuhi freaks and pulls a gun on Eva, Eva accidentally kills her. Hideyoshi also kills Krauss, and then Kyrie and Rudolph go batshit insane and start killing everyone. In the end, Eva kills those two and hides in the Kuwadorian, thus surviving the explosion. IT IS HEAVILY IMPLIED THAT THIS IS THE ANSWER TO EPISODE 3. Bern states that she is not the Game Master of the Tea Party, so we can safely assume that what happens is the truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:04:12 2010 No.5955006 File: 206 KB, 306x1024, 1281961685592.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I hope more Eva fanart comes out of EP7. Japan likes to ignore her.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:04:12 2010 No.5955008

This EP mindfucked me like no other.

I mean I loved Rudolf and Kyrie.I thought they were modern cool parents.

Rudolf was the kinda "sloopy" father but in reality he really loved his son and tried to get his attention.
Kyrie was the calm,clever wife, who tried to make good mom.

In the end we got greedy fuckers killing the children "just because".

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:06:12 2010 No.5955015 File: 381 KB, 559x800, 90566185715430c32a4f65db5441ce3f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955005 >In his madness, Kinzo molests his own daughter :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:07:12 2010 No.5955018 >>5954998 Kyrie went Kratos on Jessica's face. George was shot 3 times, all the while he was crying and saying how he respected and wanted to become like Rudolf. This happened in the real world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:07:12 2010 No.5955022 WHY RUDOLF AND KYRIE WENT SO FAR?! Can anyone explain this to me? Why such cruelty? Why torwards innocent people?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:08:12 2010 No.5955024 >>5955005 Was it ever explained where the entrance to Kuwadorian was hidden seeing as the well from Alliance was a lie?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:08:12 2010 No.5955025 >>5955018 That doesn't mean they're entirely innocent. Especially considering their relationships with Shannon/Kanon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:09:12 2010 No.5955027 >>5955022 They wanted the gold. They had the mean to erase every evidences with the bomb. Lots of people probably would have done the same.

>>	Queen Kittan !!Ps4Ee8IY7tA Mon Aug 16 20:09:12 2010 No.5955029 >>5955022 Probably Bernkastel bullshit, even though she claims otherwise. I'm going to say that it actually happens, but the actual words they're saying are skewed by Bern's outlook.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:10:12 2010 No.5955033 >>5954998 Jessica didn't do anything bad,before her death. George was crying and saying he admired Rudolf. Both were brutally killed in the real event. Yes. Brutally killed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:10:12 2010 No.5955035 >>5954940 That sure looks like a trollface to me. Oh god moar sprites

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:10:12 2010 No.5955036 >>5955029 But she isn't the GM and can't do much to the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:10:12 2010 No.5955040 >>5955029 Bern didn't have anything to do with what was happening. And pieces can't act against their natures

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:11:12 2010 No.5955041 File: 87 KB, 1280x720, snapshot20090821063054.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >The gold contains a parasite/virus what makes you go batshit insane and kill anyone whoever is. >My face

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:11:12 2010 No.5955042 >>5955005 >>5955018 Holyshit this episode sounds amazing

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:11:12 2010 No.5955045 >>5955025 THERE IS NOT RELATIONSHIP WITH SHANNON/KANON THAT WAS FICITON YOU UNDERSTAND?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:13:12 2010 No.5955049 >>5955045 That's not true. Yasu really did act like Shannon and Kanon. And George/Jessica really did have a relationship with them. Shannon and Kanon are imaginary friends who became personalities within Yasu with time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:14:12 2010 No.5955053 sage

>>	Da ★ Ze !MaRIsaDqf. Mon Aug 16 20:14:12 2010 No.5955061 >>5955045 SO 1-6 IS ENTIRELY FICTION? OK THEN, THE MURDERS WERE ALL DONE WITH MAGIC BY THE GOLDEN WITCH BEATRICE. MOETRICE SAID MAGIC EXISTED IN GOLD, SO WE'RE ALL GOOD. SEACATS IS SOLVED FOREVER.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:15:12 2010 No.5955066 So....who we can cross out in real event as "alive"? -George -Jessica -Krauss -Natsuhi -Kyrie -Rudolf Battler is unsure since we didn't see his death. Hideyoshi maybe?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:15:12 2010 No.5955068 Anyone can tell me why the hell Gaap was called Beatrice until Yasu becomes a witch?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:16:12 2010 No.5955071 >>5955053 what's this, /a/? Lrn2 use sage already. Even the people in this thread know how to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:16:12 2010 No.5955076 >>5955035 Is that a real sprite? I thought it was a shoop.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:17:12 2010 No.5955082 >>5955045 WHY ARE WE YELLING

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:18:12 2010 No.5955087 >>5955066 Genji Kumawasa Eva (duh) >>5955076 No is not, but Eva uses her batshit insane sprite of EP3

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:18:12 2010 No.5955092 Does anyone know is there's a fanart of Leon, Zepar and Furfur doing the can-can? You know, because of AMBIGUOUS GENDER.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:18:12 2010 No.5955093 >>5955068 Because Yasu first gave her the name of Beatrice. But then she thought that it didn't fit her so she created another Beatrice while leaving Gaap nameless. Maria is the one who named Gaap.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:20:12 2010 No.5955094

>>5955068
The Beatrice Yasu envisioned at first looked like Gaap (in his twisted head). Then, he envisioned Beatrice as Claire (Will's waifu aka Minttrice), but he yet again changed his vision of her when (s)he found out that Battler likes women with golden hair and blue eyes. The final image settles as Yasu first sees the portrait.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:22:12 2010 No.5955105 >>5955094 Claire is not Will's waifu in Umineko.He is Leon's >>5954983 can someone translate this?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:25:12 2010 No.5955120 The true victim of Umineko is Kuwadorian Beato Poor girl ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:29:12 2010 No.5955138 who is betting and wishing Yasu to be a guy?me!

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:29:12 2010 No.5955140
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>"Cats, you can have my left arm. If you want them, I'll even give you both of my legs. ….But I will never let Leon go! Even if I have to crawl, I'm going to let him escape from your bad end!"

>"Is that okay, Leon? Will plans to die for you. Don't you hate it? Tell him, 'abandon me and run away.'"

>"....Will...."

>"Yeah."

>"...don't...let go...! I'll escape, definitely! And so will you...!!"

MY TEARS WON'T STOP

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:29:12 2010 No.5955142 >>5954852 >>5954866 Oh, fuck you ;________; I miss her so much ;___________;

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:29:12 2010 No.5955143 Fucking damn the spoilers posted in this thread are confusing. Guess I need to go to the animesuki forums and read some summary or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:30:12 2010 No.5955145 >>5955094 Will's waifu is Leon. Haven't you been paying attention?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:32:12 2010 No.5955157

Yasu was introduced to the family after being raised in the orphanage, and was given special privilages from Genji, since Yasu carries the blood of Beatrice (human). Other servants was jealous of that, and bullied Yasu. Yasu seeked comfort from Shannon, but it wasn't enough. Shannon persona might've been there before Yasu went to Rokkenjima, since Yasu describes Shannon as "popular in the orphanage". Regardless, Shannon persona has been there since Yasu got to Rokkenjima, if not earlier.

Eventually Yasu was engaged in magic/legend of Beatrice/mystery novels, and eventually realized that mystery - howdunit = fantasy, and became Beatrice (fantasy-wise). Yasu-Beatrice left, and Shannon persona took over, without the memories of Yasu. Years passed, Shannon fell in love with Battler, whom made a promise to return to get her the year after. However, the year after that, Asumu died, and Battler left the Ushinomiya name.

Shannon waited years after years, hoping for Battler's return, but eventually found out that Battler had forgotten about her. Heartbroken Shannon gave her feelings for Battler to Yasu-Beatrice, and Yasu-Beatrice gave Shannon a new brother: Kanon.

Shannon eventually moved on to have an relationship with George, while Yasu-Beatrice still suffered from loving Battler. After talking to Maria, Yasu-Beatrice realized that more power was needed, and went to solve the epitaph and became the "real" Beatrice. Being able to do that, Yasu was given the title of Beatrice and the as the family head (in secret, since Yasu wanted things to remain the way they were) Yasu eventually met Kinzo, forgave him of his past mistakes, and Kinzo passed away after.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:33:12 2010 No.5955158 Can we get some more boss mode Bern fanart in here, if anyone has any? Also, if that was the answer to episode 3, then WHO WAS NANJO?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:34:12 2010 No.5955163 Homolust, homolust everywhere. Battler and George are in love with the same guy. Leon and Will have their little affair. Ryukishi shows his love to the deceased BT.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:34:12 2010 No.5955164 >>5955158 Yasu. Kyrie and Rudolf are confirmed to be killed by Hideyoshi who went into awesome mode.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:35:12 2010 No.5955171 >Beato is really Shannon whose also Kannon whose also Yasu whose also a guy even though this was pretty heavily hinted in previous episode, got fucking damn it I was seriously hoping it would turn out to be different

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:35:12 2010 No.5955173 >>5954960 >Poor guy. This is pretty much Umineko summarized in two words as far as the Ushiromiya are concerned. The Voyagers can go suck a dick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:36:12 2010 No.5955177 >>5955164 OK, so is Yasu both Kanon and Shannon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:36:12 2010 No.5955180 >>5955157 man i don't think Shannon gave her feelings for Battler to Yasu it is more like Yasu fall in love with Battler too.remember the flashback in ep6??

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:37:12 2010 No.5955182 Is it confirmed Yasu's a guy? Couldn't he be a hermaphrodite?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:37:12 2010 No.5955187 So, guys, Leon and Will are pretty much husbando/waifu, but Leon is supposed to be in love with Battler. Beatrice and Battler are the big love story of Umineko, aren't they? I don't understand how this works.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:38:12 2010 No.5955188 >>5955177 Yasu is the Beatrice personality Also the main one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:38:12 2010 No.5955189 >>5955182 Leon/Yasu's gender is never confirmed. Will flat-out asks Leon at one point, and Leon doesn't answer him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:39:12 2010 No.5955198 >>5955187 Leon don't like Battler.It is Yasu who does.Yasu is his BAD END version

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:39:12 2010 No.5955201 >>5955187 Leon may be AU Beatrice, but they're different people. Leon is Leon. Who has better taste in men than Beatrice. Some people think it's possible Will's true form might be a kind of fantasy Super Battler, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:39:12 2010 No.5955202 Can Battler's version of the events actually save everyone in the island? Or is his parents really going to end up being murderers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:42:12 2010 No.5955207 >>5955202 Bern said in red There won't be a happy ending

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:42:12 2010 No.5955210 >>5955202 From my understanding, Battler can't change what already happened. Kyrie/Rudolf will always be the bad guys in the end

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:42:12 2010 No.5955211 >>5955182 It is not known. My personal theory is that Leon is a man and Yasu is a woman, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:43:12 2010 No.5955213 Wasn't there some red truth at the end about "this story will not have a happy ending"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:44:12 2010 No.5955218 >>5955213 Yes. It was a direct fuck you from Bern to readers and to Will, who died trying to give Leon a happy end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:45:12 2010 No.5955220 >>5955202 The real event is "set in the stone". No changing that. Jessica,George are killed by Rudolf and Kyrie. Rudolf and Kyrie are the insane greedy fuckers. This is not Higurashi with miracles bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:45:12 2010 No.5955223 >>5955187 Nope. Leon hardly knows Battler, and hasn't seen his in years. Meanwhile, in other kakera, the Shannon persona in Yasu's head fell in love with Battler. get it? They're basically unrelated.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:45:12 2010 No.5955225 What do the elevens think of Leon? Eva? Kyrie?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:46:12 2010 No.5955232 >>5955211 Hmmmm. That's interesting. In a biological sense, or merely gender?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:46:12 2010 No.5955233 >>5955218 It's never directly stated that Will dies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:47:12 2010 No.5955238 >>5955218 Yes, Bern addresses the readers as "witches who still have sweet dreams" directly in the ura tea party, laughing at their hopes. Then she says in red that this story will not have a happy ending.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:47:12 2010 No.5955240 >>5955225 Nothing really. It's all about Beato/Battler/Bern/Erika Rose's probably the most popular mom followed by Natsuhi I think.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:47:12 2010 No.5955242 sigh Even if the Rokkenjima stuff is set in stone, I at least hope that R07 will have Battler completely annihilate Bern.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:48:12 2010 No.5955243 golly i am somewhat disappoint at the motives of the culprit

>>	Leon Mon Aug 16 20:48:12 2010 No.5955244 Jesus christ, Alternate Universe me is a faggot! Not to say I'm not, granted, but wanting to be a witch to make all my dreams come true? What the fuck... Hell gingers aren't even my type.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:48:12 2010 No.5955247 >>5955233 Bern sends him to the sea of kakera with a thrillion of killer kittens. Do you want more proof?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:49:12 2010 No.5955249

>>5954955

Ah my favorite topic.

Battler (from Ep3 onward) is just fiction by Tohya. EP6 seems to imply that she writes Meta scenes too, with Ange commenting on AuAu near the end. Of course, that's fiction too, since that meeting never happened and she just wrote it in.

Should we stop caring because he's just fiction? No. They're still as real as we want them to be, and I'm betting Ryukishi's gonna include an ambiguous end for the Meta world.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:49:12 2010 No.5955250

>>5955232
Well, it makes sense because if Natsuhi were to adopt the child, if it were a boy then it would assure its ascension to next clan leader. As a woman, it's useless. That's why I think Yasu's a woman and Leon's a guy. I might be wrong though. Even so, judging by Yasu's state of mind, gender doesn't really matter as he swaps personalities constantly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:50:12 2010 No.5955252 >>5955225 They love Leon's fabulousness, and his butt pinching ability. As for Eva, same thing as here really, manly tears and all. Kyrie gets mostly disgust.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:50:12 2010 No.5955255

>>5955232
Different anon, but I think anon meant it biologically because argue all you want, back when, men are valued more than girls. A male heir is worth more than a female heir. Also, wasn't Eva mad that Kinzo rather have an incompetent male heir (Krauss) than a somewhat more competent female?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:51:12 2010 No.5955262 >>5955247 Yes. I trust Will and his homolust ;_; plus it's Umineko, he'll prolly be brought back anyway

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:51:12 2010 No.5955263 >>5955243 They're used to being rich and they need to be richer. What better motive could there be?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:51:12 2010 No.5955264 >>5955244 Episode 8 is Leon beating the shit out of Yasu, being an overprotective Onii-sama to Jessica, and saving his husbando Will. I'd buy 5 copies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:52:12 2010 No.5955265 File: 321 KB, 1068x1011, 20090802022049d07.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955247 That's pretty cruel. Still, I suppose it was the same fate she shared for a hundred years. Maybe by some miracle, he will be saved.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:52:12 2010 No.5955266 File: 159 KB, 1102x1106, 3175016.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Natsuhi and Kyrie should get meta-world counterparts, just for the sake of completion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:52:12 2010 No.5955269 >>5955262 Yeah, Erika seems fine an- who was I talking about again?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:53:12 2010 No.5955272 So there's no such thing as first twilight or anything like that? What about the first two games, where Kyrie and Rudolf are dead? How can they be the culprit?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:53:12 2010 No.5955275 People who've read it. Was the main game set on the gameboard at all? Or is it all dream like meta world symbolism? Oh yeah, did Will use his rules?

>>	Ranma Saotome Mon Aug 16 20:53:12 2010 No.5955277 A kakera of killer kittens? SCZHzskjcxhzjcshkxnsc

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:54:12 2010 No.5955280 >>5955250 I like this idea. If Yasu is born male, Natsuhi doesn't kill him. If Yasu is born female, she's thrown off a cliff and crazy shit ensues.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:54:12 2010 No.5955281 >>5955252 Someone needs to make a Umineko hell with the Dark Knight speech in it, pronto. It's a good time to be an Evafag.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:54:12 2010 No.5955283 >>5955275 A few times. Will dislikes using red text, though, he barely ever does it and only when he's in a really desperate situation.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:55:12 2010 No.5955286

>>5955272

They're bottle messages remember? The author there was trying to cover up the truth somehow.

Although I kinda want to smack Ryukishi now. How the hell were we supposed to deduce that the stakings never happened? Where the hell are the clues for that??

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:55:12 2010 No.5955289 >>5955280 One thing that irks me. This shit isn't Battler's sin, it's Natsuhi's. Natsuhi is really the one to blame, that stupid whore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:55:12 2010 No.5955293 >>5955275 All the flashbacks to Yasu were relevant to the main gameboard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:56:12 2010 No.5955297 File: 298 KB, 1500x1300, 6670112.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'll be pissed if these two don't feature at all in EP8.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:56:12 2010 No.5955298 >>5955275 1) Nothing of what you mentioned. It's a hypothetical world in which there is no battle for the inheritance, no epitaph, no legend of the golden witch. It wasn't set in the meta world either. 2) Fuck yeah he did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:56:12 2010 No.5955299 It's funny, everyone thought episode 7 would be about Moralfags being TOLD, and yet the three heroes of the story are all moralfags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:56:12 2010 No.5955301 >>5955289 >stupid whore Delusional proud pure waifu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:56:12 2010 No.5955302 >>5955272 Yes. There are not twilights in the real version. Everything happens on a whim. >>5955275 Everything must happen on a game board.And Will abuses his rules as fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:57:12 2010 No.5955303 Alright, I still don't get it. Who the fuck is Kanon, how was he 'created' and what's his relationship with Jessica

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:57:12 2010 No.5955304 >>5955297 Erika's dead and Dlanor was under her control. Erika's never coming back unless there's flashbacks, Dlanor might.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:58:12 2010 No.5955308 >>5955297 I see Dlanor, but who's that other person?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:58:12 2010 No.5955309 >>5955301 Her pride and delusions cause everyone to die horribly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:58:12 2010 No.5955310 >>5955275 The tea party takes place on a EP1-4 style gameboard. Most of the non-flashback stuff is in a screwed-up patchwork gameboard that Bern made, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:58:12 2010 No.5955312 >>5955157 Was there really any crossdressing involved or did the bottle letters lie to us once again with Battler meeting Kanon in person?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:59:12 2010 No.5955315 >>5955289 BINGBINGBINGBINGBING You sir are absolutely right. I was thinking of this, too. Fuck, so Erika was right in a way when she was saying Natsuhi was the culprit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 20:59:12 2010 No.5955319 >>5955297 Erika is dead. Bern already destroyed her as a piece. Dlandor is useless since Will appeard and he is much more powerful and competent.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:00:12 2010 No.5955326 >>5955319 Erika? Who's that? giggle giggle giggle

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:00:12 2010 No.5955327 >>5955309 >Her pride and delusions cause everyone to die horribly. No, they didn't. Yasu didn't kill anyone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:00:12 2010 No.5955328 >>5955319 But Will is deaddddddddd

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:00:12 2010 No.5955331
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>>5955304
She might be able to escape the kakera somehow.
Dlanor will save her! Right? RIGHT!?

If Bern and Lambda can do it, so can they!
Not like "time" matters in the Meta-World.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:01:12 2010 No.5955332
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Sure is stopped thinking in here.

Bernkastel can easily say "That just actually happened" in red. That doesn't mean it's reality. Red can be used to describe all of the other gameboards as well, yes? So essentially she could be saying "yes, that just happened on that particular gameboard"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:01:12 2010 No.5955337 I hope Erika and Dlanor somehow come back to dish out some love in Episode 8. I wouldn't put it past Battler.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:02:12 2010 No.5955343 >>5955298 >>5955310 >>5955302 >>5955293 So what's the deal with Beatrice's funeral? That sounds like a meta world thing and not something that would happen on the "real world"/game board.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:02:12 2010 No.5955346 Umineko is a disaster. It would have been better if it was simply Battler and Beatrice arguing each of the murders, with Jessica ending up as the culprit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:02:12 2010 No.5955348 >>5955303 Kannon is a split personality of Yasu. We could assume is relationship to Jessica is as stated up to now, but as of EP7 Teaparty everything is doubtable and debatable.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:03:12 2010 No.5955349

>>5955272
First Twilight: Yasutrice, Natsuhi, Krauss, Hideyoshi, Rosa, Eva But she survives

Second Twilight: George, Jessica (Yes, again)

Rest of Twilights: Everyone else

Then kabewm

>>5955299
Will and Leo are killed by cats.
Ange becomes a burger again.
Bern states in Red there is no Happy Ending.Lambda approves this truth

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:03:12 2010 No.5955352 >>5955332 Sure is poor Japanese in here. She didn't say "That just happened." She said "This is the reality/That happened in the real world."

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:04:12 2010 No.5955360 Wait, is Yasu on the island in every game?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:04:12 2010 No.5955361 >>5955349 Where the fuck is Battler then? He should be showing up and saving everyone in the end!

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:04:12 2010 No.5955367

>>5955332
Even the main game is highly suspect. Leon's game board in particular is just a bunch of disjointed fragments Bern smashed together, and considering she has no love, it's doubtful whether she can even tell the difference between fantasy fragments and real ones.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:05:12 2010 No.5955368 >>5955352 "this is reality in that gameboard"

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:06:12 2010 No.5955382 >>5955348 Anything goes, it seems. Man for all this mystery talk the answer seems to lie purely within the answer arc. Shannon being denpa, we knew. Shannon being Yasu and all this other crap, duh, what?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:07:12 2010 No.5955384 >>5955361 Ep 8. Battler appears and start fucking everything, just like he did in Ep 5 at the end

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:07:12 2010 No.5955385 >>5955368 Did you read EP7? Tea Party does not take place on the game board. Bern is not the GM and she must use red precisley.What did you see is truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:07:12 2010 No.5955387 >>5955352 Which is why Ange's head exploded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:07:12 2010 No.5955389 >>5955360 Yes. With a chance of about 99.9999999%, at least.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:07:12 2010 No.5955393 >>5955382 We knew this as well. Simply before we called Yasu Sayo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:08:12 2010 No.5955396 File: 176 KB, 600x900, 12124524.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What if every single cat Bern summons, is technically a dead Rika in Higurashi? Isn't sad, child of man?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:08:12 2010 No.5955397 >>5955382 If you combine Pony Theory and Shkanon, people actually had a ton of it figured out, and that was before any of the Chiru arcs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:08:12 2010 No.5955400 >>5955384 No literally, he fucks Natsuhi in the ass, gets a titjob from Jessica, and makes tender love to Eva.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:09:12 2010 No.5955407 Wait, so how is it Kannon and Shannon can be seen as separate people when in the same room? I probably need to actually read Ep7 to understand this

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:09:12 2010 No.5955408 >>5955385 What the hell are you talking about? She clearly said you should be able to tell who the real game master is. Therefore it is a game board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:09:12 2010 No.5955412 >>5955400 FUCK YES end

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:10:12 2010 No.5955418 >>5955408 Someone didn't actually read the Tea Party. It is 100% clear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:10:12 2010 No.5955420 >>5955397 Not quite. We thought Shannon was killing everyone. She wasn't, really. Well she never got the chance. Like, she was and wasn't. It's a layer of mindfuck added on only by episodes 5-7.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:10:12 2010 No.5955421 I'm still not getting what Battler's sin was. If it was forgetting about Shannon/Yasu, how does that mean that "people died because of his sin"? Seems like that's all completely unrelated to Kyrie and Rudolf being greedy bastards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:10:12 2010 No.5955422 >>5955349 >Ange becomes a burger again. Wat Explanation please

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:10:12 2010 No.5955423 Since Battler's death is not confirmed in the tea party can he be Juuza after all? Or was this debunked?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:10:12 2010 No.5955426 It seems that real world end will be kinda BAD END. Battler,Eva,Maria and Ange as the only survivors of the Ushiromiya family. I hope we are getting total annihilation of Bern in the meta thoguht.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:11:12 2010 No.5955427 >>5955407 They are never seen as separate in the same room. Shannon and Kanon being together in the same room as seen by a special authority causes a big bug.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:11:12 2010 No.5955430 >>5955420 Pony Theory asserted Beatrice was innocent, so again, uh, if you combine their powers or something...

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:11:12 2010 No.5955434 >>5955407 Probably because that never really happened? I dunno, haven't read it yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:12:12 2010 No.5955438 File: 103 KB, 438x326, 6190552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955408 I thought Bern said that to tease Leon. He was seeing horrible things from his family, and told Bern to stop, but it was reality. There was no GM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:12:12 2010 No.5955439 >>5955426 Explanation as to how Maria somehow survived?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:12:12 2010 No.5955440 >>5955426 >Maria ... the jaw

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:12:12 2010 No.5955442 >>5955438 This is correct.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:12:12 2010 No.5955443 >>5955421 Kyrie and Rudolf being murderers only happened because they found the gold. Which only happened because Beatrice forced them to do it saying that she would take everything otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:13:12 2010 No.5955448 >>5955423 Battler dies due 900 tons of dynamite

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:13:12 2010 No.5955449 >>5955426 But Maria's jawbone? Or maybe she's a jawless monstrosity now. (we need fanart of that_

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:13:12 2010 No.5955451 >>5955438 Yes. Leon figured it out, but Ange didn't know until Bern told her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:13:12 2010 No.5955453 >>5955423 Not confirmed. Same for Maria.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:13:12 2010 No.5955455 >>5955438 >>5955442 I'll trust Witch Hunt's interpretation over yours.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:15:12 2010 No.5955464 >>5955455 Klash has been wrong before. Sorry.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:17:12 2010 No.5955469 >>5955464 I think you're wrong. Sorry.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:17:12 2010 No.5955473

>>5955455
...this not an interpretation.

Just fucking learn some Japanese and read the EP7.

It's clear as day.

Tea Party event had no GM.
Leon realizes this and becomes shocked.
Ange doesn't.
That's why Bern just says it out loud.
Then Ange goes mumbo-jumbo.

And as we can deduce
No GM= Real event.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:17:12 2010 No.5955474 The Ange who was mindfucked and hamburger'd by Bern this EP... Was she Ange-Beatrice back from the dead, or "real" Ange dragged into the meta world?

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:17:12 2010 No.5955476 Ryukishi was the GM. Therefore it is the truth.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:18:12 2010 No.5955481
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slightly offtopic..
But it felt like EP7 cleared up the age confusion a bit.
>Assuming Battler is "Santa" to Beatrice since he only came once a year, she said she was 12 years old.
>Erika said that George and Kanon look close in age, but you should be able to differentiate between someone who's supposedly 16 and a 23 year old.
>Then Kanon refused to tell us his age back in episode 1..

So Yasu was kept back 3 years to avoid suspicion from Natsuhi and Krauss when it became time for the servants to attend school?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:18:12 2010 No.5955486

>>5955469
Klash has a blind spot about a thousand miles wide when it comes to Bern and has also misread a lot of stuff. The spoilers here aren't valid, but Bern outright says there is no GM, confirmed that she didn't get to GM in the ura tea party and everything ABOUT that scene basically pounds your face in with the fact that it's the truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:19:12 2010 No.5955491 >>5955476 R07 is Auau And she leaves the game after this EP ended

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:19:12 2010 No.5955494 >>5955474 I don't think "real" people can actually go to the Meta World.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:20:12 2010 No.5955499 File: 598 KB, 839x1177, 1279042145515.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >my face when yandere lesbian jessica is disproven ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:21:12 2010 No.5955503 >>5955499 yeah, everyone loved lesbo jessie, now we just have an attentionwhore.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:22:12 2010 No.5955506 Do we have High-Res pics of all the portraits up to now?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:22:12 2010 No.5955509 File: 34 KB, 182x215, 1243962957254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955499 >My face when i see Shanon as a boy HOMOLUST CONFIRMED

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:22:12 2010 No.5955512 >>5955491 She leaves? Wow, first I've heard of it. I guess if the author insert leaves, from a certain interpretation you could call the next EP an omake.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:23:12 2010 No.5955514

>>5955499
>>5955503
Eh, don't be so quick to judge.
She's not an attention whore, the asthma thing was a good guy thing.

She uses it to get everyone to chill out, and as we saw in episode one, that may have prevented Natsuhi from wiping the party at the beginning.

Also Yasu is not confirmed male.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:23:12 2010 No.5955515 File: 202 KB, 1000x770, 12450037.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder what Bern's fate will be. She has already experienced a hundred years of hell, so what could actually phase her?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:23:12 2010 No.5955519

>>5955494
That sort of lessens the impact of Ange's freakout in the meta-world then, doesn't it?

All these Anges being trolled and trolled by Bern over and over... but our (real) Ange is oblivious to it all, skipping along in the 1998 having (relatively more of) a happy time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:24:12 2010 No.5955525 >>5955515 Kinky Lambda sex.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:24:12 2010 No.5955527 >>5955515 THE POWER OF LOVE THAT MELTS HER ICE COLD HEART Then you just drop her to the most abysmal kakera. Someone in umineko said that, you give her a ray of light and then seal her up for eternity.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:24:12 2010 No.5955530 I finally figured out. Shannon and Kanon don't exist in the Leon's World. When Will enters the chapel, he and Leon are already in Bern's gameboard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:26:12 2010 No.5955535 File: 293 KB, 1095x1600, syojo-18.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955525 >implying that doesn't already happen on a regular basis

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:26:12 2010 No.5955537
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>>5955512
Auau leaves, and Bern takes the gameboard for be the GM for real in EP8.

Meanwhile, Battler makes his own game for a Meta-loli Ange.

So EP8 will show the cruel truth by Bern and a "false" miracle happy ending by Battler.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:26:12 2010 No.5955541 File: 103 KB, 800x751, 12461803.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955527 I thought she couldn't experience hope, or much of any emotion. Wasn't she the collection of all the failed worlds/Rika?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:26:12 2010 No.5955542 Ah, don't hate on Bern. It never helps.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:29:12 2010 No.5955560 >>5955515 I wanted to punch her teeth out when she just sat there laughing and laughing at Will's different attempts to protect Leon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:29:12 2010 No.5955561 >>5955541 That's why, basically you hammer hope into her, bring the guys from higurashi so she has a revelation of sorts ah life is good. Then seal her.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:29:12 2010 No.5955563

>>5955519

True but, according to Tohya she died at the end of her journey after having an abusive childhood under Eva so she didn't exactly have a good time anyway.

I'm betting Battler will prove that Tohya knows jack shit about the real Ange's life and give her something of a happy ending in the next EP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:29:12 2010 No.5955565 >>5955535 sooourceee

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:29:12 2010 No.5955566 Almost hilarious in how Ange is very much like Eva, isn't it?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:29:12 2010 No.5955567

I just re-read the part in Episode 3 where Jessica leaves the room while Nanjo's getting fucked up and she just said something that I never took notice of before.

She says something like, "I'll listen to everything you say Kanon, even if you tell me to walk off a cliff"... Is this how she actually dies? Maybe she was tricked into walking off the second floor balcony in the mansion.

>>	Baraggan Luisenbarn Mon Aug 16 21:29:12 2010 No.5955576 Tea Party needs more fanart. Especially Kyrie beating Jessica to death.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:30:12 2010 No.5955581 >>5955541 You are right, and that guy was probably joking. It's kinda sad that Bern is just a side effect of the Goddess trauma.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:30:12 2010 No.5955583 >>5955541 >Wasn't she the collection of all the failed worlds/ This has never been stated but Rikafags cling to it. She's Rika, plain and simple.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:32:12 2010 No.5955594 >>5955576 More like Berserker Tears Eva ventilating Kyrie's skull. I didn't like FAT FAT FAT and Jessica, but it's just SAD.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:32:12 2010 No.5955597 Bern is fictional like everything in Umineko. She has nothing to do with Rika.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:33:12 2010 No.5955598 File: 1.69 MB, 2560x2048, 11586679.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955560 Well to be fair, that pain is only a tiny fraction of what she experienced. However, she really is cruel by making everyone else experience it as well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:33:12 2010 No.5955599 File: 865 KB, 2124x3000, dd64e4c98db0da4623ec46a8238e5b08a70820cf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955576 Am i the only one who remembered the beginning of Higurashi at the beginning of that scene?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:34:12 2010 No.5955615 >>5955598 This just shows how big bitch she is. "Hurr i suffered so you'll suffer too!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:34:12 2010 No.5955616 Ep7 sprite pack, does it exist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:36:12 2010 No.5955625 Was Dlanor a no show this Episode? She had a badass fire slicing scene in the OP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:36:12 2010 No.5955629 >>5955594 This. Kyrie's defeated in the coolest way ever though. Not just killed, but even her last troll is smacked down by Eva. Ryu can be a moralfag when he wants to be, and damn does he pull it off smoothly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:37:12 2010 No.5955632 So to the people that have read episode 7. Is the epitaph actually explained in deatail on the location of the gold? By that I mean they decide to walk the reader step by step through it instead of little hints that were given in episode 3 and 5.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:37:12 2010 No.5955637 >my face when it turns out that alien brain slugs was the cause for everyone's death

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:39:12 2010 No.5955649 >>5955629 Ryu was always a moralfag, and anyone who didn't see that Eva was good all along needs their head examined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:39:12 2010 No.5955650 >>5955625 remembering past games, so nope.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:40:12 2010 No.5955652 >>5955563 Doesn't Tohya and Ange interaction happen in real time? How can Tohya know what will happen to Ange in the future?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:41:12 2010 No.5955661

So pretty much, the closed rooms and whatnot were just Beatrice covering up the truth after the fact. The murders had occured prior, but Yasu or whoever went in and staked the corpses, applied the paint, etc.

They really were done with "magic," but by "magic" I mean "made to look like a witch did it, even though she really had nothing to do with the murders."

and she did this because she loved Battler? Like, did she not want him to find out that his family was a greedy bunch of murderers? Or did she just want to escape with someone she loved, and was conflicted,

That's the gist of it, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:41:12 2010 No.5955663 >>5955632 Yep, pretty much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:42:12 2010 No.5955668 Will cannot be killed since he is a special gamepiece. Separate entity forced into the game (Erika was created by Bern). I can bet he is alive in the EP8, as for Leon....

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:42:12 2010 No.5955669 File: 108 KB, 595x463, Shot017.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any kind anons got a link to download Atlas? I torrented from Hongfire but I get this when I try to run the installer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:45:12 2010 No.5955690 i heard theres a scene with Bern and AuAu talking over a gameboard or a reference to higurashi? anyone care to elaborate?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:46:12 2010 No.5955696

>>5955661
>So pretty much, the closed rooms and whatnot were just Beatrice covering up the truth after the fact.
No. Just erase all the games from your mind. There were no stakings. No epitaph murders. Yasu had them planned, but that was all.

Instead, the siblings all found the gold and things went horribly wrong out of greed and malice. The bomb went off and hid the truth, that Kyrie and Rudolf slaughtered almost everyone and were then killed by Eva.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:48:12 2010 No.5955707 File: 558 KB, 960x1277, 12476751.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955668 Wizard Hunters? I can kill them too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:48:12 2010 No.5955709 >>5955696 So fiction theory confirmed then? I used to hate it, but for some reason, I don't now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:48:12 2010 No.5955717 >>5955668 Leon is like Beatrice were she not a crazy slut, he deserves his good end.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:49:12 2010 No.5955726

>>5955652

That was part of EP6 remember? And EP6 was written by Tohya, she literally wrote Ange in, hence them having a meeting she didn't remember happening. Tohya never met Ange in 1998.

This is just my theory but, I'm guessing Tohya writes the bottle letters in 2005 (86+19) and just does some research on Ange's past. Then she writes her fanfiction about her in EP4.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:49:12 2010 No.5955727 >>5955709 Same here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:50:12 2010 No.5955731 >>5955385 Is it confirmed to be the actual, only truth, or does there still remain a possibility for multiple truths? After all, everything gets destroyed. Anything could have happened.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:52:12 2010 No.5955742 >>5955726 Meaning for all we know... Ange could have loved her Aunt. SHUT UP I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:52:12 2010 No.5955743

>>5955668
I guess it would be more like killing the Stakes or something. The only way Bern was going to be able to do that was by investigating their true nature as furniture... but Will isn't furniture, is he?

Also I'll say it again, BernXWill is my OTP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:53:12 2010 No.5955747 >>5955717 Beato got her good end already. She's sleeping eternally inside the happy ending Battler wrote for her, which Battler and Virgilia sealed up in a cat box so no one else can ever interfere with it.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:53:12 2010 No.5955748

>>5955731
>Is it confirmed to be the actual, only truth, or does there still remain a possibility for multiple truths?
It is the truth, but it doesn't matter. When Ange learns it, she sort of collapses under its weight, so Golden Sorcerer Battler comes to her six year old self in the ura tea party as she cries her eyes out and decides to spin a new truth for her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:53:12 2010 No.5955752 >>5955731 Actual truth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:54:12 2010 No.5955755 >>5955743 >BernXWill is my OTP. Someone hasn't played the game yet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:55:12 2010 No.5955756 >>5955726 Or you've got it backwards, and Tohya herself doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:55:12 2010 No.5955758 Someone better have a fucking good ending. Fucking Ange hated Eva even though she loved him, Kyrie/Rudolf turned out to be greedy fucks and Battler had every reason to abandon the Ushiromiya name >There will be good end to this tale fuck you damn it

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:55:12 2010 No.5955759 >>5955748 so Ep8 is going to be a imaginary happy end?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:55:12 2010 No.5955760 >>5955756 I don't get how that would work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:55:12 2010 No.5955762 >>5955747 Not really. Leon was her good end. And, well...

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:57:12 2010 No.5955774 Does Okonogi want Amakusa to kill Ange because he is in league with Kasumi, who knows what Kyrie did on the island, who does not want Ange to find the truth about her mother?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 21:58:12 2010 No.5955781 File: 151 KB, 705x1000, 8f2b8c0bd480d949c2bc7e68cb0e4ad14787fd38.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HEY HEY ANGE REMEMBER TANABATA? REMEMBER I TOLD YOU YOUR BROTHER WILL RETURN IF YOU HATE EVA?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:00:12 2010 No.5955791 i am so confuse right now between what is real or meta or delusion and if it even matters

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:01:12 2010 No.5955799 >>5955400 I read this as "makes tender love to Erika." Oh jeez ;____;

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:02:12 2010 No.5955801 >>5955781 TO BE FAIR EVA DID TAKE AWAY YOUR FAMILY

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:02:12 2010 No.5955805 >>5955799 Who's Erika?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:03:12 2010 No.5955809

>>5955760
Featherinne made a copy of the Meta Ange piece from the EP4 game board and modified her memories so that she thought she hadn't gone to Rokkenjima yet. Then she fabricated the character of Tohya wholesale and had her meet with the new Ange. Ange realized her memories had been edited by a witch, so Featherinne elevated her so they could talk directly.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:04:12 2010 No.5955814 >>5955762 Did you even read Battler's scene in the prologue?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:04:12 2010 No.5955816 File: 47 KB, 640x478, maidsofpurgatory.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HNNNNNNNNNNNG

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:04:12 2010 No.5955820 >>5955469 It's not an issue of interpretation. Not only is it explicitly stated, it's the POINT of the tea party. Why on Earth do you think that Ange goes fucking berserk?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:04:12 2010 No.5955821 File: 378 KB, 777x753, 1273537776561.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955799 I did as well. Disappointed when it said Eva. >>5955805 You lot and the Sup Mugi crowd are in cahoots, aren't ya?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:04:12 2010 No.5955822 >>5955809 Auau must be bored as fuck for do that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:05:12 2010 No.5955827 >>5955821 I like the shade of pink, but it'd be better if you had more to post as an image.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:07:12 2010 No.5955833 >>5955822 She's explicitly bored as fuck, so that's not much of a counterargument. Also she wanted to see if Ange would be useful as a reader for EP6.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:08:12 2010 No.5955838 File: 1.44 MB, 1120x789, 1279551908255.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:09:12 2010 No.5955840 File: 40 KB, 300x225, Schadenfreude.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Will we see Evatrice as a good guy in episode 8? Perhaps so.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:11:12 2010 No.5955852 >>5955742 Too bad about that one Tanabata story where Bern ruins Ange's life. It's right from Bern's own mouth, so it's presumably not fiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:13:12 2010 No.5955868 File: 372 KB, 640x480, 1282011185.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SO, YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT I AM A WITCH, RIGHT?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:13:12 2010 No.5955869 >>5955840 Moment I want is this. Over the top episode 8 confrontation, where Ange defends Evatrice from an attack of Mecha-Kyrie or something. Eva is to Ange as Meta-Beato was to Meta-Battler, if you think about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:14:12 2010 No.5955873 >>5955840 Probably not. Evatrice is the less awesome side of Eva's personality. Black magic and white magic and all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:14:12 2010 No.5955874 >>5955838 Who's that girl on the left?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:16:12 2010 No.5955884 File: 103 KB, 800x1360, 8c7311beac36aa3219fad294c974e6e8d221ff96.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can we have Black Rosa already?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:16:12 2010 No.5955885 File: 71 KB, 595x600, that fucking niipah.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955874 No clue. She's probably some marysue Japan made up.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:16:12 2010 No.5955887

>>5955809

That works too.

But I prefer fiction shenanigans. It makes EP4 work better for me since Ange's story is disjointed and weird unless you consider her Meta world life occurring in parallel with her journey. It makes sense to me that her parallel development would be a literary conceit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:16:12 2010 No.5955889 >>5955874 Come on, man. It's not really very funny. Invisible Hanyuu is funny. Do some more of that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:17:12 2010 No.5955890 >>5955884 I want Black Rosa too, but... I don't think it's gonna happen bro ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:17:12 2010 No.5955891 File: 35 KB, 400x500, 925399.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >murderers kissing after slaughtering everyone.jpg

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:18:12 2010 No.5955897 Rosa the Black Witch Kyrie of Blinding Speed Eva-Beatrice And Natsuhi Should confront Bernkastel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:20:12 2010 No.5955908 File: 408 KB, 588x779, 1281802869942.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Rudolf and Kyrie are good, loving parents. They don't deserve these slanderous lies!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:20:12 2010 No.5955909 >>5955887 Oh and to add to that. I want to believe that Ange's abusive home life was just Tohya's bullshit conjecture. I want Eva to stay nice damnit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:21:12 2010 No.5955913 >>5955384 WRONG BEATO COMES AND MAKES HIM HER BITCH AGAIN AND THEN FUCKS EVERYTHING CAUSE FUTARI IS 1.5G+.5B GIRLS WHICH IS BETTER THAN 1G+1B CAPTCHA CORAUS 34

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:21:12 2010 No.5955914 >>5955908 "cough" Bullshit "cough"

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:22:12 2010 No.5955917 >>5955909 Meh, Eva was more or less distant, but when your foster daughter hates you because she thinks you killed her family and the truth of the matter is that they were evil fuckers you gotta stay distant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:23:12 2010 No.5955921 File: 524 KB, 588x779, 1281803476622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5955908

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:23:12 2010 No.5955922 So, what's with people saying we should ignore all the episodes before 7? That seems a bit... counterproductive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:24:12 2010 No.5955930 >>5955908 look at all dese lies

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:26:12 2010 No.5955942 File: 666 KB, 1376x725, 1a127771a8ee1a3b7bcb7dfd117cb93f.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really hope R07 manages to finish up Rosa's storyline. It seems like he kind of forgot about her after EP4.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:26:12 2010 No.5955943

>>5955917
>>5955913
Eva tried to be a good person saving family/adopting ange despite her parents.
She gets her family murdered, took all the blame when she was the hero, and had the world turned against her (ange included thanks to bern).

EP3 Eva had it worse than Natsuhi EP5, you just don't find out until 7

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:27:12 2010 No.5955952 Just got back here, checked out DEM SPOILERS, and hahahaohwow. Anyone else getting a Batman vibe in regards to Eva?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:27:12 2010 No.5955953

>>5955887
Actually I've been suspecting for a while that the entire 1998 timeline was a fiction constructed as part of the EP4 game board. That way the flow of Ange's narrative could be understood as preparing clues for Battler. He couldn't have solved the mystery without what he got from her memories, so her experiences should be part of "what Beato wanted to convey to him" that Ryuukishi mentioned.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:27:12 2010 No.5955956 File: 135 KB, 541x530, 1256329600297.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mediocre drawfag here. Anyone want to see Batman!Eva? I could either do a sprite edit or an actual drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:28:12 2010 No.5955962 >>5955956 Oh yes! Do it please I was thinking of it earlier

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:31:12 2010 No.5955980 >>5955956 [] Yes [x] FUCK YES

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:32:12 2010 No.5955992 >>5955943 Didn't Eva sic her guards on Ange when growing up a few times? She was spiteful and mean towards Ange near the end. Poor woman. She was awesome, but she did a lot of wrong near the end.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:32:12 2010 No.5955998 >>5955887 >>5955953 Well, it's still large-scale fiction shenanigans regardless of whether Tohya wrote it or Beato and Lambda did.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:33:12 2010 No.5956006 File: 106 KB, 654x534, Umi74.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How can a cutey face like him go on a murdering rampage ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:33:12 2010 No.5956008 >>5955992 She's one of those Tragic Heroes, there. OH NO YASU GOT ABUSED BY BULLIES;_: It ain't SHIT compared to what Eva had to deal with.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:34:12 2010 No.5956012 File: 81 KB, 600x568, 1253683418513.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] best aunt ever ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:35:12 2010 No.5956015 >>5955884 oh damn thats hot

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:35:12 2010 No.5956016 >>5956006 why is he crying?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:35:12 2010 No.5956020 Ridicule is probably the most terrifying Umineko piece I have ever heard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:38:12 2010 No.5956031 >>5956016 He just lost his free meal ticket.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:38:12 2010 No.5956033 >>5956016 Battler "died" Is from EP6 i guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:38:12 2010 No.5956037 Did loli Ange get a new sprite?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:38:12 2010 No.5956038

>>5955992
She must have lost her hope in the end because Ange never accepted her......;___;
No.....Let me do it again.....
In the end she realized Ange would not listen to her if she tried to be all sweet lovey dovey because she knew Ange wouldn't hear that kind of talk so she said it like Ange would understand, as if becoming the new witch and head of the Ushiromiyas was something bad , and her revenge against Ange for taking her family from her (?) but actually it was the nurturing of her love for her.....;_____;
Oh Eva....

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:39:12 2010 No.5956043
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So I have a question; might be a case of LURK MORE but I figure someone can oblige me:

Is there anything to definitively suggest that this episode is "True," that the things revealed in it are wholly and entirely "Accurate" and not just fabrication? A lot of subtle, seemingly normal non-magical scenes in the past have proven to be entirely fake, drowned out by the white noise of SUMMONAN TOWERS AND MOONRABBITS.

I'm wary to take anything presented by a witch at face value, ESPECIALLY if it seems clear cut and free of magical meddling.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:39:12 2010 No.5956049 >>5956012 battler will write their GOOD END in EP 8, believe it. (and then he will lay down besides beato and sleep for eternity ;_; )

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:41:12 2010 No.5956059 >>5956049 Battler and Beatrice have their priorities off. OH NO POOR NATSUHI;_: WELL YOU DUMBASS SHE IS KINDA SORTA RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THIS BULLSHIT

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:41:12 2010 No.5956062 >>5956043 You can say this episode solves EP3 and EP4 Also gives you hints for solve EP1 and EP2

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:45:12 2010 No.5956086

OK...
When exactly did Meta-Battler start "existing"? We know that Meta-Beatrice was made from the collective idea of Beatrice that added up over time, and Virgilia and co. are Yasu/Maria's imagination...

but if Meta-Battler isn't EP1 Battler (EP1 being fiction), when did he come in?

Or is it that he was plucked out of the EP1 fictional story to serve as Beatrice's nemesis?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:45:12 2010 No.5956088 >>5956059 Battler kinda recognizes this in the EP5 hidden tea party. He just ignores Natsuhi even though he saved her. I still don't get while his perception of Beato changed when he found out the truth though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:47:12 2010 No.5956105 >>5956086 I think it's the latter. He doesn't start remembering the truth of the real incident. Player Beatrice just chose to elevate him because Battler's special to her.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:48:12 2010 No.5956111 we need new thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:48:12 2010 No.5956116 >>5954812 NEW THREAD (since we're on autosage): >>5956094 Also, see you guys tomorrow. Seen that last three threads since the beginning and I'm exhaused.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:49:12 2010 No.5956119 Has anyone solved the final riddles of Episode 6 and 4 yet? (I'm probably a bit late for that, though.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:50:12 2010 No.5956126 >>5956105 But why EP1 Battler, of all Battlers? EP1 and EP2 were written at the same time, as far as I know. Heck, why not just make a Meta-Battler based off the "real" Rokkenjima Battler? What's so damn special about EP1 anyways?

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:50:12 2010 No.5956127
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>>5956062
My only problem is "Does it really?"

Is there any reason to believe EP7 isn't just some giant misdirection? Who's to say this isn't another one of those Northern Wind Southern Sun type of things. We've been given faulty information to build conclusions off of before.

Sorry if this is sounding asinine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 16 22:56:12 2010 No.5956166 >>5955897 >And Natsuhi Man, Natsuhi always gets fucking shafted, and not in a sexy way. Poor woman.

Anonymous Mon Aug 16 23:02:12 2010 No.5956200

Battler: Normal reader who wants to solve Umineko.
Bernkastel: Crazy reader who wants a bad ending.
Lambdadelta: Crazy reader who wants a endless story.
Erika: Reader who expected a normal solution, killed in EP6.
Will: Reader who expected a happy ending, killed in EP7.
Auaurora: Reader who already knows everthing.Also R07.
Ange: Reader who wants magic to be true. Delusional.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 17 05:06:12 2010 No.5958349 >>5956200 Well, killed or saved by battler in ep8, it would be really awesome. Don't break my hopes ;_;

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