Elona General

[Anonymous No.]

Almost feels like I'm cheating. A certain moongate has custom npcs that cast wish when confused, so I took the opportunity and got myself some decent gear. Didn't get an adamantium kit, but diamond is good enough. If any of you stumble upon this moongate(has June in the name, think it was second page on rune list), brotip: Ehekatl is stashed away in a room on the very right of the map, dig the walls. Ehekatl will consume cursed alcohol, so wait until she dies before you start attacking the custom npc. Otherwise it's MEWMEWMEWMEW for you. Anyway, Elona General

[Anonymous No.]

Spam this crap later, we've got important Umineko threads for this real estate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939636
I think you mean Fairy Wars threads

Anyway, made a new character Yerles Claymore
Since I don't start with Magic Device should I get it?

[Keeper of !SajuukntOY No.]

>>5939663
Only if you plan on using rods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939618
Don't feel bad.

[Keeper of !SajuukntOY No.]

I am surprised, with all the little sisters and everything, that Madotsuki isn't in Elona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939670

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939668
I don't plan to be a caster so I think rods/scrolls are going to be my main source of magic spells, yeah

[Anonymous No.]

Had Jure as my god for a while, and i've been constantly giving her ores and shit until she becomes indifferent to my gifts. What the hell do i gotta do to get my first reward? It feels like hours i've been at this...

[Keeper of !SajuukntOY No.]

>>5939701
You have to have a sufficiently high Faith stat. Then Pray.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939701
pray at an altar of her's

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939685
which moongate is that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939708
Ah, how do i boost that stat, is there an easier way other than hording plat coins

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939701
You know the messages you get when you offer something the god likes?

After a while, that message will be different. However, in order for you to receive your godly rewards, you'll need a high enough Faith skill to reach the amount of favor it takes. When you do though, pray to your god. You'll receive your reward and a temporary buff.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939716
it's a custom map I downloaded for my show house.

i have infinity wishes on-demand whenever the fuck i want them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939728
it's not on http://hpcgi3.nifty.com/rfish/usercgi/clip.cgi anymore is it ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939618
Bring a scroll of contingency and wish for Kumiromi. Wait for MEWMEWMEW and grab your 691 magic scythe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939728
I'm surprised you're not playing wizard mode. I mean, it's no different from being in wizard mode when you are game wrecking with infinite wishes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939728
Post it please. I want to see what i can get without wizard mode wishes.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh boy my first scroll of name, blessed too! Now if only I'd find my first living weapon.

[FReisen !SV3dGkVKt6 No.]

Welp, this treasure map has me stumped. Hurr

That aside, any suggestions for clearing Noyel of blue bubbles? I've thought about walling in every NPC, particularly the fire giant, and also the traders, who just run around uselessly with bubbles tailing them. Problems finding the rod of make wall though.

Though I'm tempted to leave it as is, every time the fire giant burns down the altar, it becomes unclaimed again when it respawns, so I can just grab it again for my god.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5939618
>Almost feels like I'm cheating. A certain moongate has custom npcs that cast wish when confused, so I took the opportunity and got myself some decent gear.

That's because it is cheating.

Anyway, digging my fairy wizard. Almost ready to be accepted by the mages' guild so I can properly train my magic. Escort quests got me the gold to get my performing gear and an instrument from the heir trunk, which allowed me to get my fighting/casting gear from the trunk, as well as some other goodies. There's still a lot left in the trunk.

I guess my question is, aside from speed rings, and maybe glass gear (my gear is already better than glass, so I won't bother), what should I do to get more speed? Maybe I should try to make my speed rings glass. Eight more speed, hell yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5939618
that's because it is. same thing goes for any of the pets you'd grab from them.

while using moongates is part of the game, some of them are made specifically for "cheating". some of them are just showing off their harem, but many of the pets contained in them are ridiculous, example being custom-made characters that happen to be level 40+ and have godly stats/skills/speed or special monsters that are capable of casting Wish on you multiple times or other incredibly beneficial things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5940290
at least it's not right under starting cave...

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5939744
>Bring a scroll of contingency and wish for Kumiromi. Wait for MEWMEWMEW and grab your 691 magic scythe.

You know, I just might do that if I ever have 21 flying scrolls laying around. Bless the stack, grab the 376.5 stone scythe, and make it fly all the way down to .895471 stone. Sure, you'd lose most of the +32 damage bonus, but that hardly matters when you can actually pick it up and use it.

If you aren't a fairy like me you'd just need 14 blessed scrolls of flying to get to 6.71 stone, or 16 to get to 3.77.


Question for anyone who got the scythe, are you able to change its material type at all? I'd imagine not, but it's worth figuring out just because it's ether.

[Anonymous No.]

I found a jirachi that spams wishes earlier

[Anonymous No.]

>>5940470
Nope, can't do that with anything that has "It is precious."

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5940552

Yeah, I know. Stupid question, but I test it out on every precious item I've gotten anyway. All it does, if anything, is reroll the item (which can be helpful for getting better stats - got the Al'ud on my last character to have a speed boost of 7).

[Anonymous No.]

Playing a Fairy Claymore, been doing a bit good, Got Glass Seven League Boots, did that quest for the Gene Machine, and been playing Blackjack for Cure Corruption potions, though I can't find much equipment for him, so he's sticking to martial arts as of now. any advice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5940621
You aren't going the jewler + change material route?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5940664
What's that exactly?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5940750

Learn the Jeweler skill, get the appropriate tool, and craft a huge stack of scroll of inferior material. If you need or want more materials, just go through puppy cave's floors spawning more nodes to harvest.

You can use the inferior material scrolls to make gear that is otherwise too heavy into paper/cloth/etc lighter materials. Later you can craft change material scrolls, use one blessed water to bless a huge stack, and they will act like superior material scrolls, allowing you to get higher quality cloth and such.

[Anonymous No.]

Can someone tell me; do pets level up if you kill enemies or do they have to do the fighting themselves? It's tedious babysitting low level pets...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5941779
You should have figured by now that there's no experience in this game. Both you and your pets level by exercising skills. And since pets can't level from non combat skills the way you can, the only way to level them is to have them participate in actual fighting.

Then again, if whatever pet you're using is so bad it can't even kill low level enemies, you're better off not using it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5940795
protip : it takes forever to get enough paper from the puppy cave. You are better off finding enough ++ jeweller items.

I have enough now to get my jeweller skill to 49 and make superior material scrolls, but it seems those need chaos stones from mining...

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5941779
>>5941801

Also, you can use gene engineering to splice in levels to your under-leveled pet.

[Anonymous No.]

Started the game as a Juere Claymore, decided to use the marriage thing and rolled a Juere Warmage. My daughter is doing quite well after a bit of grinding for deeds of heirship, one shotting stuff she shouldn't. Feels so good man.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way to figure out exactly what level your buffed skills are?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942033
Nope, you can only estimate it for the most part. # boost is 1-4, ## boost is 5-9, ### boost is 10-14. etc. Have two #, three ##, and one ### boost would mean the range of +skill you're getting is 27-49 if my math is right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942076
...that's a huge range, though...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942076
You can figure it out for skills like carpentry, alchemy and such since it tells you their level while using the specific items.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5942148
>...that's a huge range, though...

Indeed, it is. Think of it like this, though. If you have a lot of items that give a bonus, you can safely assume the mean value.

That is, for the example he gave, instead of worrying about the 27-49 range, you can assume that your skills will probably be boosted by an amount close to 38, assuming you weren't either incredibly lucky or incredibly shafted by the RNG.

My current performing gear, for example. I have 5 ## gears and one ### gear (which is actually my main robe, too).

The range of my bonus is 35 to 59, but I can safely assume it's around 47. This is practical because it helps me to decide when it might be safe for me to play around <Loyter> or <Whom dwell in the vanity>.

I would like very much to know the EXACT number, but it's not really necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942220
I actually have a question about those ### gears. Is there a cap for how much I can raise it?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5942279

I'm not sure, but my guess would be that there isn't a limit outside of whatever maximum cap to skills there is anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942317
The limit is so high its a non issue. I have 2k weight lifting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942342
What the fuuuuuuuuck? Are you the guy who walks around the place carrying motherfucking trees on his back?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5942350

Well, with a 2k weight lifting he wouldn't need to or probably would carry trees any more. That's 4k stone just from weight lifting alone, not factoring in his strength, constitution, or the base weight limit.

He's probably carrying his whole house. His bed, his training machine, spare gears, absolutely everything he picks up that might be of value to a trader, potions, scrolls, rods, books, a cooler box chock full of heavy corpses, and maybe a few trees just to top it off so he's still burdened.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucking love how eating cats is a crime but you can mine the hell out of people's houses and not get punished.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5942436

A lot of things have to be attributed to "video game logic". It's half of the fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942516

Yeah, that's one reason I love it. Etherwind screws me up sometimes so if the month it comes is close by I just mine down the town until winds blow to get some con training.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

I find a cloak with ## to performance, and I guess it figures that it would be useless for performing.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5942914

Damn it, forgot the picture. Curse you, captcha.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you tame cats/little girls that you meet in dungeons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5942992
Yes and no. You can tame then in the same way one would hostile monster, but I don't think that's what you're asking.

[Anonymous No.]

Where would I get a rune from? I think I had one at the beginning of the game, but sold it because I didn't know what it did. Now I can't find it...

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5943045

They'll show up in some shops occasionally, and sometimes in dungeons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5943195
so I'm not screwed then? phew, thought I might have to wish for one to get it back.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5943199

They're uncommon, but by no means rare. Don't even think of wasting a wish for one.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

Speaking of wishes, I just got one from a regular fountain. On my third quaff. With no bad effects (my fairy hat resisted the mutation).

I got scrolls of name. Three of them, for my living weapon. I'm going to go for a high quality stat stick, and use the scrolls of name to dodge blood sucking if it's about to get it. I already got seven league boots, a happy bed, etc items from my inheritance, so wishes are pretty much whatever now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5943278
Miromi for the +1 free feat every 10 levels?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5943289

Probably.
Does anyone have a link for the scroll of name list of effects from each name?

[Anonymous No.]

After some hardcore savescumming, I finally got a *love* New Year's Gift. Unfortunately, it's only been giving me items I don't need and ring ring fucking ring. Has anyone ever managed to get an artifact from these damn things?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, look. A platinum grenade... 1d6 doesn't look that goo-
>the ball hits the monster and shatters it to atoms.
Oh.

[Anonymous No.]

where can I download version 1.22?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5943642
I had the exact same thought when I first used a grenade. It's not good to rely on them though since later monsters can just absorb their damage without much difficulty.

[No.]

>>5944141
http://noaneko.squares.net/dev/elona122.zip
Just keep in mind that it's slightly buggy.
Cooking tools for testing are mostly just a preview of stuff to come.

[Anonymous No.]

So how do I actually use materials? Can I craft something with them? If yes, then how and where?

[Anonymous No.]

i just started elona
how do i identify stuff?
what's the penalty for dying?
how do use sleep on beds?
any other tips are welcome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5944381
Go on rizon, #elona, and bug jdstroy.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to get it to display these characters correctly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5944538
Launching with applocale helped me, yet elona suddenly began to lag like hell. So I prefer normal startup.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5944538
Play the game in Japanese if it's like that because you're in a Japanese moongate.

[Anonymous No.]

For anyone interested, I found the moongate OP is talking about and I have it saved as a .eum file. The monster is the shooting target in the top left, and it grants wishes if you get it to low HP (it usually goes on to kill itself by overcasting wish). It also splits and will quickly flood your screen with them if you let them out of the area by digging or otherwise.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YKBF716B

[Anonymous No.]

FLYING SCROLLS WHERE

Seriously, I want to make my lightsabre heavy for awesome two hand fighting but I never found a single one

[Anonymous No.]

...in a random Moongate.

[Anonymous No.]

aw man, I found a moongate with a monster that spams harvest. I got 4 small medals from it, then closed the game by accident. I found the map again (I think), and now it casts an explosion spell instead of harvest ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

I just found a younger sister's diary in a level 4 dungeon. Just started out with a new character, too. Is this awesome?

[Anonymous No.]

>I would like very much to know the EXACT number, but it's not really necessary.

EloSnack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5944345
You use the skill Jeweler, Carpentry, Alchemy and Tailor with their respective tools.

>>5944381
For most questions, use elona.wikia.com
At first you identify stuff at a wizard's who resides in the adventurer's guild in every town. You can also read scrolls of identify or later cast the spell. You can also learn a skill that gives you the ability to identify all items in your inventory over time.
When you die, you lose a bunch of money, as well as some of your equipment randomly. Blessing your equip decreases that risk. At or after level 6 you also lose some attributes.
Use a bad to slepp. I usually use stuff with the enter key, space works, too. Just stand on what you want to use, or have it in your inventory.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, here's something interesting.

I wished for a new year's gift (nothing better to use it on), opened it up, and then an unusual message came up. "This is truly a wonderful gift!"

I now have the nondescriptive piano. Time to make people drunk out of their minds!
(dropped stuff is there thanks to the fact that it is HEAVY)

[FReisen !SV3dGkVKt6 No.]

>>5943642

Grenades are crazy powerful if you can get your hands on one early. They're hazardous to your pets however, and deal sound damage and has a chance to confuse with their grenade effect.

I believe their damage is affected by your magic stat, so possibly good emergency weapon for a wizard, and if you give your pet a high sound resist item, like say, the <Unknown Shell> along with something that prevents confusion, you can use it with minimal worries of killing your pet in using it.

I love them personally, but my magic is usually terrible to have them keep up damage wise against the things I'm fighting past 10 or so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5946563
Found a miracle quality mithril grenade named the <Patient of Chaos>. It actually DOES do chaos damage. #### chaos damage, # tactician, -# fire resistance (with all the fire resistance equipment in this game, a non factor), +3 luck, Resist Sleep, Resist Blindness. Perfect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5946685
Lucky bastard. I just started playing a caster and grenades have been a godsend.

[Anonymous No.]

Decided to roll a snail tourist for the hell of it but...Holy shit they only get back, shot and ammo slots? My my my my my...

[Anonymous No.]

is there any way to get rid of that speed debuff? this ring is fucking awesome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5946797
Nope.
Still is unbelievably good anyway.
(and wait until you see the reward for getting all three stones... if you ever find something better than THAT, you got unbelievably lucky)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5946850
Palmia Pride? I'd say Steel Dragon is better.

[Anonymous No.]

Will Sense Quality ever be able to determine if an item is cursed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947156

It does - http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Sense_quality

[Anonymous No.]

i herd there was a version without casino... which is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5946773
You will spend tens of thousands of turns just getting up to the point where you can even remotely THINK about combat.

Unless you use one of the ridiculously broken pets that have become the norm on /jp/ and have that do everything for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5946462
What the fuck. I waste so much time just getting a damn New Year's Gift from a *love* NPC, and I'm STILL trying to get it to give me an artifact. Meanwhile you just wish for one, and then the RNG god just plops that shitty piano right in your lap. I mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947602
And even then, it depends on the level of broken.

While stuff like twin bells are absolute death machines, they are not instant win buttons (DO NOT TRY USING THEM AGAINST ULTIMA). Stuff like that EFB thing with stats high enough that anything short of a GOD (in the most literal sense) would fall over and die will still make the game a joke.

Some sucke-er, poor soul is trying a snail tourist without any weapons, with a 1 stone equipment limit (a la faeries), without ANY pets, and without any heirlooms.

It could still be harder.

[Anonymous No.]

Found Parsee in a moongate, but sadly I could find no summoning crystal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947654
To be honest, I was hoping for a lightsaber or kagami mochi. And there is no way I can haul that thing around everywhere without hitting it with MANY flying scrolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947731
Which one? I'm interested in this.
(just to check, can you use a summoning crystal you brought in yourself? I have 4 laying around [3 from wishes, one actually somehow FOUND IN A DUNGEON] and no custom NPCS of my own creation)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947654
Are you sure the NPC was at love and not just soul mate? Because soul mate is the tier you start getting stuff like flying scrolls or hermes blood.

I'm actually wondering if love is the tier you start getting the artifacts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947766
>Which one? I'm interested in this.
How should I know? I used a moongate, not a rune.

The funny thing was that when I searched the text said that there was a summoning crystal, but actually looking at the map itself showed me nothing. The "hot or cold" message didn't show up either, it only said there was a crystal somewhere on the map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947766
Tried. It said that the creater of the moongate can not have imbued anything into your summoning crystal so no go

[Anonymous No.]

>>5945942
I'm such an idiot, I should have done this from the start. after all, it isn't reeeeally cheating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5945393
how do you get into this place anyway? Do you have to use a rune or something?

[Anonymous No.]

Okay I just did some testing with new year's gifts. I opened all these packages layed out like this twice. Notable discoveries were that I got an artifact each batch, but they weren't from the same gift. Another notable discovery was that I found out you could get aurora rings and speed rings from new year's gifts. Speed ring first batch, aurora ring this batch. Notably again they weren't from the same gift.

Another thing to note was that one of the gifts is a normal level one meaning monsters, fire and curses meaning you could get gifts of varying levels from wishes. I have however scummed a single soul mate gift I got from an adventurer a lot without result so I'm beginning to theorize that the next level of new year's gift above soul mate which is love includes all the stuff from the soul mate tier and then some.

Basically my theory is that a love level new year's gift is a soul mate gift with the added chances of getting speed rings, aurora rings, and artifacts. It might be the actual tier lightsabres show up to despite what the wiki says since I've never gotten one on the gift I got on a my regular character. Maybe vindales or seven-leagues could show up in them too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947989
Woah. Those things are even better than I thought!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947989
Is the xmas version's features included in other recent patches?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947989 here.
I just repeated my test four times with absolutely nothing notable appearing.

My theory may probably just be wrong and the more notable items might just be really rare and I just got lucky with the batches twice in a row.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948054
Yes, I'm doing this on 1.22.

[Anonymous No.]

No. Goddamn. Way.

I thought managing to get a rod of wish from a panic quest was utterly ridiculous, but this is even more so.

[spoilers]Hello best way to kill off Friesa![/spoilers]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5947983
OP here, this is the moongate on the list. Showrooms are probably easier, but it can't get easier than this anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

i got a quick question /jp/,
i bought a museum deed thats cursed. what would happen if i used it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948261
I honestly have no idea.

It used to be that blessed deeds payed less rent and cursed deeds payed more, but that hasn't been true since 1.16. I have no idea if there's a difference now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948261
IT'S HAUNTED!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5940506
>>5939685
>>5939670
I NEED THE FILES FOR THESE!

Also, if I enter a moongate and I like it, how do I save it?
F8 says I cant use User there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948067
Hi Friesia!
Bye Friesia!
(Had 322 PV, Shield of Thorn, and a LOT of healing. 2 rods of heal with FIVE charges each, 2 rods of healing hands with 3 charges each, a rod of cure with 4 charges on it, a potion of cure critical, and two potions of healer)
Fort of Chaos Bosses remaining: Two
[Just to check, for Azzrssil, will I be fine with about 10 or so # of cold resistance? If so, he's next on the line. Ultima is the only one I can't cheese yet.]

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, so is this worth the utterly exorbant price tag of over 11 million? (Seriously, first time I saw something other than an aurora ring or ring of speed break 8 digits)
[Material isn't a problem]

[Keeper of !SajuukntOY No.]

>>5948419
>No "It brings an end."

It's shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Found this while uh... "testing" the wishing npc Moongate. I chuckled a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948447
C'mon man, I need someone to post the eum for that Jirachi wish moongate.

Or at least tell me how to save it if I find it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948431
>implying shields can get "It brings an end"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948447
Refer to >>5945393

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948492
Also, you put the .eum in the User folder of your Elona folder, and just go to the map from the Show House

[Keeper of !SajuukntOY No.]

>>5948479
I wasn't implying that. I was implying that anything is shit if it doesn't have that modifier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948509
Ok. Best pet ever would then be a Mutant with the absolute maximum # of arms possible, each one equipped with a weapon that had "it brings an end". And a speed 10 times higher than a level 1000 quickling archer. And each one of those has the absolute maximum chance to cause an additional melee hit.

RAGNAROK woulRAGNAROKd happen sRAGNAROKo maRAGNAROKnyRAGNAROK tiRAGNAROKmeRAGNAROKs tRAGNAROKhat iRAGNAROKt woRAGNAROKuld geRAGNAROKt rRAGNAROKiRAGNAROKdRAGNAROKiRAGNAROKcRAGNAROKuRAGNAROKlRAGNAROKoRAGNAROKuRAGNAROKsRAGNAROK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948477
>>5948326
Alright, I found out how to save a moongate you like.

>If you find a map through random moongating that you want to keep, while you're inside, check your \user\ folder and there'll be a temp.eum file - making a copy and renaming this to something else (number.eum) will let you keep it.

Sweet.

>>5948508
I'm trying to find the Jirachi moongate, the one linked is another moongate that has an enemy that sometimes casts Wish.
I know about all the user stuff, but thanks.

>>5948492

[No.]

>>5943325
I still would like to know this.

[Anonymous No.]

I just found perhaps the most disgusting artifact ever.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, as if the staff wasn't enough, now I've entered what appears to be the house of Alice Margatroid. It has what appear to be dolls, at any rate...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948719
It got worse. That odd looking wall led to THIS. DEFINITELY Alice, since only she could have tried to make dolls from the SKIN AND BONES OF LITTLE GIRLS.

That book to the left, by the way, is a Grand Grimoire. I've found the Grimoire of Alice.

Now if you'll excuse me, I need to blow this place to kingdom come.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948755
Forgot pic.

Also, just entered wizard mode (WILL NOT SAVE), burned last wish on a nuke...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948777
The nuclear bomb did it's purpose. The warped puppeteer of the Forest of Magic is gone. As is all of her foul creations. And the entire Forest, for that matter. Nukes aren't very picky about what they destroy.

Oh well, I guess blowing myself up and possibly Marisa was worth it. 'sides, my pet titan actually survived a NUKE.

Now all I need is Shikieiki and my life is complete in Elona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948755
I was on that map earlier!
I couldn't get past that wall. My mining skill is shit and teleportation wasn't being helpful.

I'm glad to finally know what's back there.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5948888

Did you try a rod / spell of make door / door creation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5949502
I thought those only worked on empty spaces?

Maybe I'll have to experiment.

[Anonymous No.]

1.22 crashes whenever i try to enter a quest area or the arena. What the fuck?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5949628
>I thought those only worked on empty spaces?

According to the wiki, that was only the case prior to the 1.13 version. It works on the ground and on walls, but not on furniture or NPCs.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5950310
And yes, I've confirmed that at least for myself it works on walls. Using 1.22 beta.

[ERIKA !!rvelpwMesVU No.]

Take note of my HP and the fact that I am still alive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5948665
That name is awesome.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5950541

Yeah, I survive when at 0 hp, too. Death only occurs at negative hp.

[Anonymous No.]

With the graphic pack installed, why do i just get weird overlapping images when i try changing the body?

Like in this one, you can see another head behind my character's head...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950635
Turn your hair to 0, then your detail's eye to 0. Most of the "body" have hair and everything. It's better for you to keep to body 1 or 2 if you plan on having a lot of personal customization. "Body" choosing is just easy modo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950541
yeah, that can happen.
I think in situations like this you might still have a small percentage of health that the hud simply rounds to zero

or maybe you just only die at negative health, i don't know

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950647
Is it just me or are the custom sprites all female?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950647
Btw riding seems to break the custom sprites. Very badly.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got a <Tyranosaurus> from a scroll of ally. Is it awesome?
Though its stats are the same as the normal one but it has higher level skills, so it's obviously better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950734
There's a large number of male in there.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5950751
>I just got a <Tyranosaurus> from a scroll of ally. Is it awesome?

That is definitely awesome, and I am jealous. What level are you?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5950751

Somewhat related, when visiting Lumiest a town NPC drank from a well and spawned a Tyrannosaurus. Unfortunately, I didn't have the monster heart yet or my rod of domination on me (it was at home). I had to kill the thing. That made me kind of sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950781
A cub is superior for riding.

[Anonymous No.]

Do party quest peacefully. Suddenly: Let's Ragnarok!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950763
Level 31.
>>5950781
I got one from a 12 or so difficulty quest and I happened to have a Lv30 Ball so captured it. But the <> one has slightly better skills overall (about +5 levels in each important skills like evasion, greater evasion, etc).
>>5950827
Only the Noyel cub is better speed-wise, but finding capsules for him is impossible.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5950877
>I got one from a 12 or so difficulty quest and I happened to have a Lv30 Ball so captured it. But the <> one has slightly better skills overall (about +5 levels in each important skills like evasion, greater evasion, etc).

Even more importantly, it has extra intrinsic coolness by being a boss version, tipping the cool scales since it's already a friggin' tyrannosaurus.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoo. Just dominated this cute li'l thang from a Panic! quest. When it splits, the copies are still level 42. Letting this thing loose is like nuking a city, except it's permanent. And no karma loss. And I'll never be able to set foot inside the city, ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950914
Oh boy, I'll need a few of those to swarm south tyris. My adventurers are all dodging north tyris now since I keep hunting them.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>Find scimitar named <The fairy>.
>It's over one stone, at 2.3 stone.

Damn it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5951027
>flying scroll
>change material scroll
Do it, it's the only path! You are destined to wield it!

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5951074

Eh, it wasn't very good and I'm a mage anyway. I already passed the trader so it's lost. I have better things on which to waste flying scrolls and material changing scrolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5950751
Ride it. RIDE IT. You can say that you rode a boss Tyrannosaurus in your epic quest.

(Seriously, I have to do with only a Great Race of Yith for a mount)

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5951397
>Great Race of Yith
>only

What?
Well, I guess there ARE better mounts, but riding one of those is pretty badass, too.

[Anonymous No.]

So now whenever i enter Palmia my game instantly crashes...

HspError 7 WinError 0 Ver 1220 Mode 2
efId 447 efP 160 Area 15/1
ci -1#180 ti -1#341 cc 0#0 tc 0#0 rc 81#77
3. ctrlFile16/end ct:0
2. map_reload:End ct:0
1. Map:Check renew ct:0
0. renew_major ct:0
* error in function:charaRefresh
* error in function:screen_draw:5

Any ideas/

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5951588
>Any ideas/

Well, I think the text that generates that tells you to post it somewhere. That somewhere is not here.

Anyway, my best guess it that you have some moongate NPCs available to your game (either you downloaded them from that guy who uploaded the packs or you downloaded them from the place he got them), and they aren't going to generate properly (thus causing a crash). Had you entered the moongate that hosts them, you would crash before doing anything, meaning you can't even summon them, but by circumventing that, you have them in your game and you crash. The second part of my guess is that some adventurer or shopkeeper or someone has an item that attracts monsters, or they drank out of a well, or something, and it spawned one of those NPCs that cannot be generated properly by your game, thus causing you to crash in the game.


But I could be wrong. That's just my guess.
I don't know enough about the game's programming to really garner anything from the dump log you posted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5951619
Yea i already posted it on the forum but who knows when/if the game creator is going to look at it.

I didnt download any NPCs at all though. Or enter any moongates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5951713
Including using summoning crystals? Those count too. Is it just one of your char, or is it the same for all your characters? You might have a corrupted file somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5951588
Are you using 1.22? It's still in beta, crashes are to be expected.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5951713
>Yea i already posted it on the forum but who knows when/if the game creator is going to look at it.

Ok, but I just figured it would be good to remind you in case you didn't.

>I didnt download any NPCs at all though. Or enter any moongates.

Well, scratch my idea then. It could just be a beta thing for you.

>>5951795

The log makes me assume he's using the 1.22 beta.

>Ver 1220

[Anonymous No.]

I'm literally swimming in monster skins, eyes, blood, hearts and such. Anything I can do with this or can I just sell it all off?

[Anonymous No.]

>What do you wish for?
Well? What's a good armor/weapon to wish for?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5952076
>Well? What's a good armor/weapon to wish for?

Are you sure you have everything else you might want from a wish that a wish makes much easier to get? Hell, even scrolls of name would be a fair use for a wish if you use even one living weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

I am really thinking about abandoning my exile. He really has nothing redeeming. His spells are just so weak and he isn't unable to level them up unlike ourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952076
seven league boots if you don't already have them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952076
You may as well wish for "of defender" or "of fire" or something, so at least the item will have useful stats no matter what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5951781
Yea, no crystals either.

I had to reset Palmia from scratch. Its a fun trick.

On the world map, walk ontop of a location you want to reset. Hold down backspace and press enter.

WARNING : This resets it to scratch. All vendors will drop back to their base levels(all investing lost), all NPCs and items will be regenerated from scratch. This is a good thing if you need to get rid of an infestation.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

YES!
Traveling on the map, I ran into a guy carrying THIS sweet staff. Bought it for just 5k gold, too! What a fucking steal. Now I'll be dual-wielding power-boosting staves while flinging chaos and nether and turning myself into a chaos and shockwave bomb.

MAD WITH POWER HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I just have to turn it into a lighter/better material. I made the last one I got into a rubynus staff and gave it some flying, but I might just shoot for any material I can get for this one just to get it under one stone.

And yes, I know about Issizzle and his Staff of Insanity, but this is a new character and it's always nice to have something you can pass on as an inheritance, especially when you have two. I'll use the Staff of Insanity when I get around to it. I still have more training to do and skills to buy. And gene engineering for my little girl. And some god stuff. And exploring other dungeons. And did I say training magic?

This one has only four #### while my current nice one has five ##### (and has one # in Greater Evasion and Evasion, which is a nice little bonus), so this will be the one to put in storage once I get the Staff of Insanity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952153
I feel like I should reset my Palmia too, although I don't really see a point. Most NPC in it are foe against me, with like -20 relationship with me.

Speaking of Palmia, does guards randomly get stronger? I've been slaughtering them like nothing, then a few months later when I return, they suddenly start hitting me and my waifu like a ton of brick, and they started swarming a lot (8-10 instead of the usual 2-3). In fact, I literally get chased out of the city sometimes

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

And now the black market dealer in Port Kapul sold me this baby for under 2k gold. Just because it's paper. Hah!

Yes, that's a cloak that floats, not a wing.

I probably won't use it, though so much of it is tempting especially since I'm a fairy. I plan on passing it to my little girl, probably. Gotta mix it with acid and fire proofing liquids, first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952246
I have a silly light cloak too!
These didn't fit on the pic:
>It improves your Evasion skill. [#]
>It allows you to digest rotten food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952132
No thought on this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952246
>>5952345
Never underestimate super paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952132
Ehh... Pets really don't level up spells? Have you tried giving it spell enhancing equipment to raise its damage? That multi-cast is really hard to pass up on, but I don't want to waste money training a useless pet...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952669
There is speculation that they level up based on the pet's level.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952669
He has a #### one yet he still does shit damages.
>>5952723
The pet is like level 30 or so and still does this little. I also checked his spells level with EloSnack and they're all lowest level.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5952756
>He has a #### one yet he still does shit damages.

I don't think it's a straight damage bonus, but a fractional bonus. Say, 40 points enhancement means 40% more damage (just as an example - not saying that's actually the bonus for 40 points) and not 40 points damage added to spells. So if he's only doing 10 damage with a spell, he'll only do 14.

Still, that's problematic if his spells aren't leveling up. Did you level him up with gene engineering?

[Anonymous No.]

halp

I currently have my little girl and a gold bell as my pets. I'm trying to receive my Black Angel pet from Lulwy (already have the faith). The problem is my Charisma is currently 1 (I'm an ugly mutant with +5 CHR mutation but a -5 Ether Disease corruption).

Even when I tell my little girl and bell to "wait at the town" I can't receive the pet because I'm told my party is full. The same applies for if I try to take on any escort quests. What gives?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952949

Having your pet in the town doesn't mean it doesn't count for your party.

[Anonymous No.]

Uh guys, I just got the Defender god pet while my Android was dead. The Android's been dead for ages, I just couldn't be bothered to revive + dismiss it until now, but I have two god pets now. Will this still work if I tell my Defender to wait at the town while I get a new god pet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952756
How do you check the pet's spell levels in elosnack?

When i try i just get flat 0s all around...

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5952949
>What gives?

Everything that I would type out to explain it can be located here: http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Charisma

>Every character may have at least 2 pets, plus one more pet for every five charisma starting from 10, up to a maximum total of fifteen pets. Pets assigned as shopkeepers or breeders, told to stay at your house (including maids) and pets waiting in town all count towards this total.

>Companions gained in escort quests count towards this total, so if your party is full, you can not do these quests.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952949
Never mind, just found out about the limit. Ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu--So then I should ask, if I'm a level 9 Warmage, mostly trained in melee currently, how many pets should I keep (are escort quests still good for me?) and which one(s), knowing that my limit is 2?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5952965

You can only have two god pets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952813
Yes. Checking stats on EloSnack states his spells are not leveled at all.
Here are his current stats.
Note that even if I leveled him with gene eng he still attacks quite a bit even if his damages are shit if I compare him to my godly 2-handed catsister pet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952987
Pets are like normal PC. That means they ARE level 0.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck is this shit? It's attacks do like 2 damage to me, and I do about the same to it... How do I beat this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953063
Stop using a paper knife and use something with good damage and good piercing.

[Anonymous No.]

I beat it after pages and pages of spam and critical hits.

>>5953103
I'm dual wielding a long sword and the lucky dagger. Does using scrolls on the dagger remove it's abilities?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5953035

His skills are barely above his default levels at 8, sheesh. Maybe you have to use him for a bit to get the spells to level beyond where they were. Am I right to assume that you just got him and just applied gene engineering to level him up to not be far below you? At any rate, I'm not too familiar with the Exile pet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953035
I talked to the guy who coded elosnack. According to him pets use special actions that simulate spells, so looking at the spell levels in elosnack doesnt help.

Also they supposedly level up with the pet, but it probably isnt enough.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5953199

Ah, that's interesting. Thanks for the info.

[Anonymous No.]

I have a silver eyed witch pet now and i gave her an adamantinium katana that does # lightning damage.

Shes an absolute beast...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953279
Hmm any idea how i should give her eye of mind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953279
I gave mine The <Claymore>.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953305
I wonder where that one in my game is.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5953279

I've got a decent trident that does ##### lightning damage. Extremely beastly. It's on my Golden Knight right now. My fairy is about to hit level 12 in 67 more experience points. I could have imported the trident or a decent vanilla katana from my inheritance to outfit my second pet (first was little girl). The katana is still in the heir trunk.

>>5953289
>Hmm any idea how i should give her eye of mind?

Gene engineer a Hand monster into her. It gives Eye of Mind. She'll learn it from the Hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953165
I've been using him for quite a while actually, but even so I don't think Casting increase your magic damages, unless I missed something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953346
You increase damage by leveling the skill up, very much so with high level spells, with bolts even.

Casting increases your casting, therefore decreases the chance of casting fail.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953367 *you increase the damage by leveling the spell up

God fucking damnit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953309
They very rarely drop from silver eyed witches.

Would have been ironic if that pet spawned with it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953344
How do i capture more stuff to gene engineer though?

I cant remember the last time i saw a monster ball in shops, and all the shops in my game are at least level 50 now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953414
There's also the rod of domination. Although that thing is even MORE rare, it is sold at Miral's Workshop. Do be warned, it can't be recharged, unlike all other rods save for that of wish.

Also, is this worth a million gold? (the last attribute is Steal MP #####)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953459
Duh, forgot pic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953459
Steal mp is godtier since it kills creatures through magical reaction.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5953469

A scythe that has a huge steal MP stat? Are you fucking kidding me? That thing is godly. It could be paper and it'd be a badass fucking weapon. Worth a million? Sure is.

[Anonymous No.]

I saw a steal MP ##### bardiche but passed up on it because it wasn't my skill and I was playing fairy.

In retrospect, I should have gotten it anyway and found a way to make it work. Even as a pet weapon it would be a shitwrecker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953414
>at least level 50

All of my shops are lv 100 and I occasionally get lv 70+ balls. My highest one is lv 112.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953199
Well he's level 29 and his spells are still weak as fuck. He does maybe 20dmg or so per round unless I get extremely lucky. The only pet I have that is as weak as him is my younger sister, but she's quite weak still since she didn't get to train her dual wield much yet (and she only has one good weapon to dual wield with so far).

[Anonymous No.]

Monster balls are rare, if you want to farm creatures what you'll want to do is find a spellbook of domination, gear yourself up with major literacy bonuses, and then put the book on reserve with the mage guild.

I'm stockpiling literacy+ gear and hard spellbooks in a storehouse, waiting until my skill rises as high as I can get it and I have a full set of gear to wear while reading my wish book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953563
....oh yeah, I just remembered there's another way:

Get really good at magic device and wish for a rod of domination. As long as your skill is really high you should be able to recharge the rod and get a lot of use out of it - just make sure you fireproof the thing and save before attempting to recharge.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5953541
>In retrospect, I should have gotten it anyway and found a way to make it work. Even as a pet weapon it would be a shitwrecker.

You can always turn it into paper. Or if you can't, then you can use a material kit (vendors at the Jure Festival rarely have them - light weight low rank quality kits are pretty cheap, typically under 100k). If that fails, yeah, pass it to a pet.

[Anonymous No.]

I just found a shield made from cloth with
>It decreases the damage you take. [#####+]
Worth keeping?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953705
whoops, should be "it decreases physical damage you take"

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5953705
>>5953719

May as well keep it. You can always pass it down in an inheritance if you don't really need it and play a fairy in the next life. But I'd say it's worth keeping anyway, at least until you find an artifact that does the same thing, and even then like I said an inheritance can be nice.

If you want a better shield material, go ahead and use change material scrolls on it.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven;t read the thread yet. Has anyone told op he's a cheating faggot? Because they should.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5953778
yes

[Anonymous No.]

Ok. Any help for Zeome? I've got that scythe (should I upgrade it to mithiril or adamantium?), a twin bell (how much chaos resistance should it get to survive the chaos ball spam?), a titan (enough hp to take a NUKE to the face is AWESOME), the Shield of Thorn, both the Staff of Insanity (obviously) and the Elemental Staff (both between them would be #### of chaos resistance)...
Should I grind up Magic Device to try and keep him silent? Should I just go in swinging with that thing and hope magic reaction does the trick? Should I test that theory out on Azzrssil, and if so, how much cold resistance should I have?

[Anonymous No.]

Quick question - will Elona run on a eeepc 701 clocked at 900mhz?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5954055

It might, just barely. Don't run anything (and I mean anything) else while you're doing it, and expect the loading to be less than instantaneous. Turning down effects should help.

[Anonymous No.]

what's the best way to kill a Shub-Niggurath?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5954295
Silence it, then hit it from a distance.

[Anonymous No.]

How much MP does Azzrssil have? I've been hitting him with my MP draining scythe for ages and I haven't gotten any magic reaction yet!

[Anonymous No.]

Some quick work I did in wizard mode. Exile confirmed for shit. Everyone is wielding Frisia's Tail, and I bumped the Exile up to level 50 with blessed potions of descent..

[Anonymous No.]

The life of a pianist is hard. Even with 22 performance, those assholes keep throwing rocks at me...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5955083

[Anonymous No.]

>>5955090

[Anonymous No.]

>>5954847
Nevermind. Just hard quitted after I realized that there was no apparent way to tell how much MP was left.
As it was, I was out of healing items and had already knocked him down to 50% of his life, without ANY overcasting occuring.
MP Drain sucks on the really big spellcasters, sorry guys.
>>5955083
I always thought the android was the worst, but doing THAT little at Level 50 with no additional equipment is just plain sa-
THAT'S WITH THE TAIL!? Seriously, I would have thought a SIX HUNDRED NINETY ONE BOOST TO MAGIC WOULD HAVE MADE MORE OF A FUCKING DIFFERENCE.
Ok, pet tiers, ignoring custom pets
Properly equipped mitra = Properly equipped Bells >= Quickling Archers > Great Race of Yith = Titan = Dragons (with proper resistances) //// (skip to bottom)
...no equipment bell >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>exil
e>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>&gt
;>>>>>>>>>>>>>all other spellcasters save for Spiral King

[Anonymous No.]

>>5955083
Don't blessed potions of descent do absolutely nothing for a pet's stats besides saying it's higher level? The only benefit of bless descent potions is more skill points, but pets don't have or use those, do they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5955320
Yes, but people were saying the spell level might be based off of the pet's level.

[Anonymous No.]

Bumping to request a Shikieiki NPC. Mostly for being cute.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

Training to be a wizard is hard work. I'm just glad my inheritance gave me sweet gear so that I don't have to worry about death for... maybe five to ten more levels, when I tackle the main quest (maybe I over-prepare, but damn it if I'll let myself die unprepared in some dingy hole in the ground, or some crypt, or a burning tower, or a haunted castle).

Besides, I want to get my living weapon in good shape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956121
>living weapon
My jealous is maximum. Played for almost 200 hours and still haven't found one.

Fuck you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956153

Don't feel too bad. Mine's some piece-of-shit mace.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956153

I guess it's a good thing I didn't mention how it's a gun that I used all my flying scrolls on before sending it in my inheritance to make it .7 stone (I made it mithril, so decent damage AND the boost to casting) for my fairy.

Or that I have a second one, a fair scimitar that is emerald, which my little girl uses. Or that I very recently found a third one, a hand axe, that I gave to my Golden Knight which sadly replaced my awesome lightning trident (it's worth it to level a weapon). Or that I got a wish and, since this is a character who had an heir trunk to raid, didn't need seven leagues or any aurora/vindale/happy bed/etc and thus was able to wish for scrolls of name, which I'm planning to use if these assholes ever try to suck blood. And if I get another wish, will get more and try to score a nice name that gives good bonuses.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956170
>Don't feel too bad. Mine's some piece-of-shit mace.

The first one I ever found was a really shitty mace. I didn't even get it just for the hell of it, even just for a pet (since I was playing a wizard). It was 11 stone or something ridiculous, and had very average damage.

>>5956153

Also, I played for more than 200 hours (not all on the same game) before I even found that first shitty mace one, and it was a good 50 or so since I found the mace that I found the gun. Then I found the scimitar and hand axe relatively close to each other in terms of time. And I found all of my living weapons on those traveling traders.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956121
There is no such thing as overpreparation. There is only overleveling.
For instance, always bring more healing items than you think you need, just in case.
For instance, when I took on Friesa the Cat Queen with my just acquired Shield of Thorn, I went in there with MANY rods of cure, healing hands, and heal, all pretty well charged.
I still had to conserve them a bit before Friesa died from throwing herself onto thorns one time too many.
And I thought she was the HARDEST of the three.
Come to think of it, I thought Ultima was the easiest, but he's the only one that can safely blow my pet twin bell to pieces without taking little, if any, damage. Even Friesa and Azzrssil would have their health bar drop noticeably before it got taken out.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, Azzrssil has too much MP to be MP drained to death. When I tried, I ended up giving up and retreating due to running out of recharge scrolls and rods to cannabalize for more recharges. Not a single mention of overcasting occured, and Azzrssil already was down to 50% hp (had enough resistance to take the dark bolts with no damage [they still blinded me incredibly rarely], and enough magic resistance to take next to no damage from the darts, but only 6 levels of cold resistance, resulting in me taking 20 hp per cold bolt).
Also, Silence isn't that great on him unless you are very fast. Rarely hits even before the hex nerf of 1.2x with a magic device skill of over 50, doesn't last that long even when it DOES stick.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956181
I'm not particularly interested in finding one at all. It's just weird that I have been playing for so long and haven't had one yet.

I'm in that weird stage where I am not strong enough to kill those lv 999 bosses which their names I can't remember. So I don't really do much other than make scroll of change materials/buy them/buy lv 50++ monsterballs/collect large amounts of potion of evolutions/work on my spiral king/yith/adamantium ranches.

I really don't know what to do. I guess I could go to the void I suppose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956181
That reminds me, I need to wish up some scrolls of name to make some totally borked living weapons.
For living weapons, what type of weapon (sword, axe, spear, bow...) should they be?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956231

You're much more advanced than my current character. Void might work. You could always just shuffle around on the world map and get as many of those traveling trader encounters as you can. You'll get a living weapon sooner or later. Just make sure to examine every item they have.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956239
>For living weapons, what type of weapon (sword, axe, spear, bow...) should they be?

I don't think it really matters beyond what YOU want to use. The second living weapon I found (after that ridiculously stupid mace I passed up) was a nice machine gun. Chance is what determines what you get. Personally, I would probably want a katana, halberd, shuriken, laser pistol, or dagger living weapon (given that I already have a machine gun).

[Anonymous No.]

So, I just got this awesome claymore, but it's 14.4s and brings my claymore over the light weight range easily. Should I really use scrolls of flying? I hear they weaken weapon damage and that's part of the reason I'm using it since my other weapons aren't as good.

[ReVerseTruth !!K13Mxh5mw62 No.]

this game looks pretty interesting, but I dont usually visit /jp/ or play a lot of games, so I haven't heard of it before.

Someone cares to give a short synopsis on what the game is about and what genre it is? Maybe a link to a wiki if such a thing exists or a download link ( I can google that anyway, but asking doesn't hurt )

[Nicola'sNose !!tw6RKbAX4Ph No.]

Yo guys I tried this game out yesterday and goddamn the controls are terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956300
It's a roguelike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956288
I'm playing a claymore and I gave up on staying in the light weight range a long time ago. It just isn't worth it.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956288
> So, I just got this awesome claymore, but it's 14.4s and brings my claymore over the light weight range easily. Should I really use scrolls of flying? I hear they weaken weapon damage and that's part of the reason I'm using it since my other weapons aren't as good.

It sounds like it uses a heavy weapon material. If you can, use scrolls of superior change material, or change material (blessed if you can, will act like superior). Make sure you have a few in case you get a bad result from the generator. You should find a decent material that lowers its weight to what you need.

Flying scrolls only lower the bonus damage.
If your claymore is (3d8+15), for example, it will only lower the +15 damage by a fraction. Non-blessed scrolls lower it by 15% per application. Blessed ones only lower it 12.5% per application, and they also reduce the weight more than non-blessed (25% versus only 15%, meaning you should ALWAYS bless them before use).

>>5956300

Here's the main site and the wiki.
http://homepage3.nifty.com/rfish/index_e.html
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Elona_Wiki

Read the wiki and the main site before you play. Read it a lot. I mean, a lot. Especially if you aren't familiar with rogue-likes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956325

Well then I guess I'll keep it on as usual seeing as I haven't been under light weight range for a long time and don't know how good the benefits are.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956319

Just because you can't grasp the controls of a rogue-like (and yes, most of these controls are standard, if not even more simplified, for a rogue-like) doesn't make a rogue-like bad.

It means you're bad. Or stupid. Or both. Go back to your Xbox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956288
Not worth it. Save scrolls of flying on things with NO pluses whatsoever, like the Axe of Destruction, or for non-equipment items like altars.
>>5956300
It's a roguelike, like Nethack, ADOM, or Dungeon Crawl. It's here since it was made in Japan. As a result, it has stuff like hard gays that explode, laser guns, Big Daddies from Bioshock (and rescuing little sisters by stuffing them into balls ala Pokemon), more of a plot than normal, the ability to marry ANYTHING (want to marry that pet Great Race of Yith you have? Who cares that it's straight out of HP Lovecraft, go on ahead), pregnancy (of the chestbuster variety), a tutorial given by a complete jerk, grind up the whazoo (wait that's already like most rougelikes), and much more.
Also, how many games let you turn on the god you've been worshipping the whole game, WISHING THEM to your position, and then killing them? By throwing tons of cursed bottles of beer (regular bottles best used to prostitute yourself off for money) until they vomit to death?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956331

Actually, I made it to be a heavier weight material with the scroll of superior material because the other ones weren't strong enough for me. Upgraded it to adamantium from...I don't remember. I believe it was steel or something.

[Nicola'sNose !!tw6RKbAX4Ph No.]

>>5956349
Just shut the fuck up faggot.
These controls are shit. Just like other rl games, but worse.
Face it.

[ReVerseTruth !!K13Mxh5mw62 No.]

>>5956331
Thanks. Looks... fucking complicated. Is there a story in this? ( some minimum story would be nice but isnt a must )

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956371
Dude, you even from /jp/, or are you just visiting from /v/ out of a misplaced interest?
Maybe roguelikes aren't your thing. Calm down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956371
That's what I said when I first started too. Look at me now, I'm completely addicted to this. Also, like other anons said, it just might not be your game. Play something else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956378
Yes, and as I mentioned, there is a little more of it than is usual for roguelikes [i.e. still roughly around Doom 2 levels of story].

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956366

I think you can still get great damage from lighter materials, while having less obscene weight. I think diamond is better for a weapon anyway. And Rubynus gives a nice combo of fair damage and good DV if the weapon has it and very nice hit bonus.

Well, if the weapon is how you want it, then keep it that way. But if it has a low bonus damage like (5d8+5) then don't be afraid to make it fly. If it has a high bonus damage like (3d8+20) then don't touch that at all with a flying scroll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956378
>Thanks. Looks... fucking complicated.
Only if you don't read.
>Is there a story in this?
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956407

Well I guess I'll stay away then. It's something around 3d16+29 so that would probably be a huge drop.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956378

Yes, it is complicated. All rogue-likes are complicated. Be prepared to die at least twenty times before you really start to get the hang of things. Then you can just expect dying only every now and then. Especially if you plan to use performing.

All rogue-likes have at least a minimum story (like the famous and iconic Amulet of Yendor in the original Rogue - which I HAVE gotten, by the way).

This one has even more story, and more of a world than most rogue-likes. It should satisfy practically all of your RPG needs all at once, in whatever helpings you prefer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956429
I'm guessing that thing is adamantium. If so, don't even change material it, just kill everything with that sucker.
Actually, forget medium armor, go for heavy armor. Never use medium armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956447

How heavy is heavy armor exactly? Everything I have is light right now. Pic for reference.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956371
>These controls are shit. Just like other rl games, but worse.

Little kids can't comprehend the depth of the superior keyboard race. Rogue-likes are so good and full of depth that you can only really play them on a keyboard. If your mind can't keep up with that level of depth, then maybe you shouldn't be playing them.

The controls are satisfying for the game that's involved, and the controls are gratifying; you actually have control.

>>5956429

Yeah, that would be a painful drop. With one blessed scroll, it would go from +29 to +25. But maybe that's worth the drop in weight from 14.4 to 10.8. You'd probably need a lot more to get into the light armor range, though, unless you equip yourself like a fairy (and since I play one, I have no choice) except for that massive weapon, which is how I think claymores are supposed to be done. But it's up to you I guess.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956476

You get classified at heavy armor when your equipped gear weighs over 35 stone.

Light armor is under 15 stone.

Looking at your gear, you could honestly go EITHER way. I could tell you how to get to light armor without gimping your weapon much if at all, if you want. Going heavy would be easy. Just slap on a heavy chest piece armor. Maybe a heavy helmet, too, for good measure.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm out for the night. If anyone gets/makes that Eiki NPC I requested, just upload it somewhere and leave the link here. Night all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956517

So that's how heavy armor works then. I guess I'll work on heavy once I get the equipment since it's easier than waiting for one of those scrolls or getting super light armor.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956537

Well, since you're not a fairy you don't have to be extremely careful about having the lightest of the light. You just have to be smart when you pick your gear.

For example, your cloak, belt, hat, and shoes are heavier than they really have to be. Chain, gold, and glass are heavy, while not being especially superior materials.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956568

Yeah, it probably isn't that hard, but just buying a plate and a helm would probably be a good temporary thing to do while I wait to get lighter equipment. Actually, I had these precious boots in an older game, they were Dali something or other. I'll probably use those once I beat those yeeks.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

Hah! Serves you right, you rotten, cursed man.
Kind of makes me sad since he was enjoying my music, too. At least I gave him a somewhat more peaceful death.

[Keeper of !SajuukntOY No.]

>>5956628
Loyter is an awesome guy. Puts bards in their place.

Six feet under.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the max number of pets that you can have? I have 96 charisma, but everytime I try to get a 16th pet, it says that the party is full. Says nothing about it on wikia

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956674

Well, 15 is the maximum, and it does say so on the wiki.
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Charisma

It doesn't mention the limit on the top of the Ally page, though. Someone should really add that. It would reduce confusion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952996

Fuck I'm retarded and didn't read through the whole thread. Didn't realize it was 15 pets max.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952153
Does this reset investments in mage's guild?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956702

It would be nice if they did add that to the Ally page - I kept doing a search for pets and it redirects to Ally.

I guess I'll throw out the silver cat. I guess if I need to I'll probably throw out the extra horse ranch to make more room.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5956809

A silver cat is only really good to turn in to Mia for the monster heart, anyway. You already did that, yes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956674
What the hell you need four ranches for? I'm maxed out on horsemeat and food with just one ranch and one farm

[Anonymous No.]

>>5956822

Yup, turned that in when I did the silver cat ranch - I fucked up and didn't realize that I didn't need to try to turn in the silver cat in a monster ball.

I have eight ranches. I should've went and put them closer to Derphy though.

Silver Cat Ranch
2 Wild Horse Ranch
1 Fairy Ranch
1 Defender Ranch
1 Android Ranch
1 Knight Ranch
1 Tyrannosaurus Ranch

I fucked up and burned down the cyber dome and lost the alter. I've started to go into the tower of fire to find a replacement but not too sure where it is. Regret not getting the mining skill.

[Anonymous No.]

Just mass rushed completed Itzpalt on my God loop. I used up 118 staves, 8 or 9 blessed scrolls of faith and four big daddy corpses used for claiming altars. Funny enough I got my last reward on my last staff. All that's left now is Ehekatl after the Exile breeds.

Ya know, I have not stockpiled any fish at all I should probably get on that. Ehekatl takes rotten fish no problem right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957226

I have a lot of fish from my salary chest, did you already take those out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5955320
From what I see it seems like the magic stats seems to be the most important stat if not the only stat that matters for NPC's spells's damages.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957283
I cleaned that out a bit a long while a go getting rid of stuff like ores, spellbooks, lame equipment, and food. It appears there isn't that much fish in there. Looks like I'll have to take the long way of fishing. I have quite a bit of +fishing gear so it shouldn't be that bad albeit a bit long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957298
>albeit a bit long.
Very, very long.

When I was still playing it was during C77 and I was going through albums while doing it since it was taking so long.

If you are going to do it in one go, I'd suggest turning on that one option that significantly speeds up the idle time during fishing so it's faster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957329
Thanks for the tip. It's fine if it's going to go slow overall since she's the God I'm ending on so I'm not in a rush to offer fish as fast as possible. Itzpalt was the only one I did so fast since I've been saving up staves since I started my godloop. I'm going to try using magic a bit before switching to Ehekatl for now while the the Exile breeds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5952153
Wait up a fucking second here. Does this shit reset altars? Because holy shit I forsee some awesome favor bonuses here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5955083
How many times a round is he casting it? The damage might add up.

For the reset, it will reset EVERYTHING in your town.

And for altars, you can just reset them by burning them anyway(warning : do not do this in maps that dont reset, like the truce grounds).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957923

Is the reset a cheat like it will label or game as such? I fucked Port Kaphul with having so many of those stupid mass monsters I'm thinking of just restarting my game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957962


Nuke it! You know you want to!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957962
Just like my Yowyn, except I get CUBES, CUBES EVERYWHERE. And no, it doesn't matter. It's an offline personal game afterall. The degree of how much you want to cheat is really up to you - some people abuses the wish moongates and can still sleep soundly at night, while others don't even go near it. Just like how a lot of people run around with like 5-6 moongate/god pets, but I think that takes the fun/challenge out of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957962
Its a debugging tool, not a cheat. Which is why its not listed anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

Can you use material kits on living weapons?

I just acquired a living zylon short bow from a sleeping adventurer. While zylon is excellent for being so light, it doesn't have any of the modifiers some other materials have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958079
Yes.

[Anonymous No.]

Well fuck...My awesome zylon bulletproof vest got zapped...And I'm planning to wait until I get investing to actually invest enough money to get something as good again. Then again it shouldn't take that long.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958194
Zapped?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958235
Zapped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958235

Burned, annihilated, destroyed...Pretty much the same thing to me.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit yes, rod of domination in my salary box. Time to go hunting.

[Anonymous No.]

Magic device is not exactly easy to level. Even with buying up all the cheap rods to spam i am still only at level 22.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958250
Get some blankets then. They're not exactly uncommon, even a 0 charge blanket may survive for some time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958343
At level 22 there isn't much reason to level it further. I'd think you could expect to use any rod 98% of the time by then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958364
Rod of domination with monster heart fails to dominate a master thief 95% of the time. At level 31.

[Anonymous No.]

I was considering Getting the <Diablo> from Miral & Garok's. Is the time stop very useful? Will it get outclassed later on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958367
That doesn't have anything to do with your MD skill, does it? The rod activates fine, it's just the thief keeps making his save.
>>5958401
Time stop is very, very useful. The Diablo will likely be outclassed, eventually, if you get lucky enough with randarts. That said, it will continue to be an excellent weapon for the length of the game.

[Anonymous No.]

My favourite silver claymore or Lightning (#####+) got badly damaged by acid. Is there a way to repair it?

[Anonymous No.]

There were several mentions in previous threads about monsters with on-hit status effects that would irritate PV tanks late game; would anyone tell me what those effects are and which monsters give them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958528

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958476
Read a scroll of enchant weapon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5957923
Well, he usually does 1-4 hits per round. Usually 2-3 rarely more or less. But his damages suck. Didn't you see how my catsister RAPE compared to that failure of a mage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958629
As I thought, but it will be really expensive to get from -8 to 0... Maybe I should just buy a legendary claymore or something.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoops, looks like it's time for me to roll a shooter character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958772
What? Scrolls of enchant are like 2k each with decent negotiation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958772
Not many things beat lightning damage #####+.
Unless you get really fucking lucky you'd be better off fixing your claymore rather than replacing it.

Hell, even if you do find a replacement, you should still keep your old claymore.

[Anonymous No.]

I found a blessed rod of domination (2 charges) in my storehouse. I don't remember where it came from.

Maybe it was a gift from Lulwy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958881
You unbelievably lucky bastard. Enchant that thing to +6 before you start leveling it up, spam scrolls of name to avoid blood sucking/bad level ups, and let the awesome roll.
>>5958612
Think that's weird? I found a panty that FUCKING STOPS TIME. The mind damage could be explained by what just hit you in the head, but panties do not normally warp the space-time continuum to your whim.

Random question. Where do you find sprites for custom npcs?

[Anonymous No.]

Is it confirmed that a happy bed is superior to a king's bed? I seem to be getting lesser night events with a happy bed...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958881
I'm so fucking jealous. Laser pistol is by far the best ranged weapon since it only get damage penalty when used from very far away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5958881
Would you guy mind uploading your savedata?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5960373
A happy bed is better than a kings bed, but random luck still plays a big part in how well you sleep.

[ERIKA !!rvelpwMesVU No.]

It happened.
Again.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5962338

Again, seeing all featureless snow clues you in to it only being possible at around three spots.

[ERIKA !!rvelpwMesVU No.]

>>5962470
As someone who's done this about four times already, let me assure you that there are dozens if not at least one hundred spots where the map could be showing. There are a lot more vast stretches of snow in the north east than you realize.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5962515

I don't mean three exact squares. I mean around three general areas where you can find that square. Still, it's annoying to have that happen.

[ERIKA !!rvelpwMesVU No.]

Those areas are very large and wide, then.

But anyway, I found the spot.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5962566

I'll give you that, but it's still better than nothing (for instance, if the whole of the snowy area was featureless).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5962515
I coun't 39 spots.

Yeah... that's a bitch.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5962644

But there are still three general areas, with some walkways. That's a nifty map. Mind if I grab it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5962662
You can't have it. It's my map only.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5962926