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>> No.5922705
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I agree, but /jp/ only like Railgun.

>> No.5922715

Reported for /a/.

>> No.5922718
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>he thinks it isn't
>>5922705
I like both, but I enjoyed Railgun more.

>> No.5922719

Because it is.

>> No.5922714

Railgun? MOAR LIEK YURIGUN

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>> No.5922751

I couldn't relate to Touma as a character, and I hate Powers-that-eliminate-other-powers powers.
Which is why the end of Railgun is bullshit, including the woman in a mech suit inside and operating an even larger mech suit because subtlety is overrated.

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>> No.5922782

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I like Railgun better because it is generally more lighthearted and I find it combines the perfect ratio of action and slice of life in an anime. Where more of Index is focused on the plot and action. Don't get me wrong, I like Index too, but when it comes down to my favorite, it is and will always be Railgun.

>> No.5922831

>>5922820
Well said, that captures my feelings pretty accurately.

Also Railgun used the cool "science vs magic" setting as a backdrop rather than trying overly hard (and failing) to build a serious plot around it the way Index did/does.

>> No.5922850

>>5922820
>the perfect ratio of action and slice of life in an anime
Noccounting for taste I guess, especially if we condier anime's inflated fanservice and irrelevant scenes.

>> No.5922852

>>5922820
I just wish they balance the filler and the story more. There is only 2 plot/climax/boss in the series although both related it would be nice to have a 3rd one - rule of third etc.

>> No.5922882

>>5922852
It was a 24 episode series.

Now stay with me on this.

One arc before the New Years break (episodes 1-12)

then

a second arc after the New Years break (episodes 13-24)

See, there is logic to be found in most things.

>> No.5922902

>>5922882
It's not that it is SENSELESS, rather that they drag out shit too much. Also, /a/

>> No.5922934

>>5922902
What's the matter, don't you like girls investigating their hearts out only to have the plot turn into "Haha it was all part of my plan! Bet you never expected the barely established vaguely-allied character to become the insane all-powerful psycho-bitch hell-bent on domination!"
I enjoyed Railgun's characters and atmosphere... such a shame it had to be dragged through such a lame, cliched plot.

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Accelerator can kill servants, discuss

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>> No.5922951

From what I've seen so far I can't figure out how Index/Railgun is different from any recent JC Staff light novel adaptation (Shana, Zero no Tsukaima, Toradora). All of those were forgettable to average at best. JC Staff has always been better at adapting manga (Nodame, Aoi Hana, Honey and Clover I, etc).

I will keep watching I guess.

>> No.5922966

>>5922937
inb4 300 replies

>> No.5922975

>OP thinks both the Index and Railgun anime are canon

Railgun manga is good. But Index is the main series, so it will ultimately be the main and best. it's stupid to even compare since they both are go side by side in canon and story. Go back to /a/ if you want to troll. The chain of Raildex threads are there for you.

>> No.5922977

>>5922934
>They watch Railgun or Index for it's laughably retarded plot
Both shows are 100% about the characters, the setting, and maybe the music. also the Onee-sama-ing

>> No.5922985

>>5922937
He probably can

>> No.5923015

>>5922951
Shana and ZnT were butchered to hell. Toradora and Index was when they stepped up a bit, and started becoming a bit more faithful to the source material, but they're still pretty butchered. Railgun is a case of being beyond butchered, but it has characters being canonically(I think?) added to expand and build the series more or something.

>> No.5923018

>>5922937
Type Moon power levels vs Raildex power levels?

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>> No.5923040

>>5922951
But isn't it the case that they have in fact been unusually lax with Index/Railgun adaptation?
While they did follow the books, I got the impression they weren't as jung up about them that developers can be when they adapt something.
Ironically enough focusing too hard to adapt one media to another one often contributes more conversion loss then one would just focus more on catching the general premise and focus on what actually works for media B, rather than A, the fact that it may not be as true to the original truly doesn't matter as much when it comes to the final quality of the product.

>> No.5923042

>>5923023

>Includes Zelretch

Well guess which side instantly wins?

>> No.5923049

>>5923023
Angels vs Types?

>> No.5923059
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>>5923023
>using outdated chart

Pretty sure angels alone can take the win for Index-verse.

>> No.5923067

>>5923059
Cross Universe shit never works.

>> No.5923075

>>5923023

Type Mercury (ORT) = Ado Edem > Type Jupiter > Type Saturn > Type Moon (Crimson Moon) > Type Pluto = The Six Sisters > Type Venus > Arcueid (Full power) > Balor > Primordial Demons > True Demons > Primate Murder > Original Roa > Angra Mainyu > Zelretch (young) > Lancelot (F-15)> Gilgamesh (Vimana) > Counter Guardian Archer > Gilgamesh (Tohsaka) > Gilgamesh (Kotomine) = Arcueid (30%) > Dark Sakura > Dark Saber > Lancelot = Saber > 5th Berserker > Dark Berserker > 17th Roa (Elesia) > 4th Rider > Merem Solomon > 5th Lancer (optimal) > 4th Lancer = 5th Rider (Sakura/optimal) = 4th Caster (optimal) > 5th Lancer (Kotomine) = 5th Caster = 4th Caster (Ryuunosuke) > 5th Rider (Shinji) > Nrvnqsr = Clairvoyant Fujino = Kurogiri > Archer > Kouma > 5th Assassin = 4th Assassin > Aoko = Barthomeloi = Arcueid (6%) = Kojirou = Ciel = "Ryougi Shiki" = Soren Araya (within the Ogawa Building) > Gun God (Black Barrel) > Touko = El-Melloi = Night of Wallachia > Sion Tatari = Melty Blood Satsuki = R. Shiki = Akiha = Asagami Fujino = 18th Roa < Tohno SHIKI = Alba = Heaven's Feel Shirou = Kiri > Nanaya Shiki = Reinforced Kuzuki = Sion = UBW Shirou = Waver = Bazett > Avenger = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Luvia > Kiritsuhu = Irisviel > Maiya = Leysritt = Tsukihime Satsuki = Lio = Avalon Shirou = Sakura = Ilya = Kariya = Len > Kirie = Caren = Meruka > Azaka > The Dead = Possessed Corpse = Misayo = Dragon Tooth Warrior = Fuji-nee > Gun God (unequipped) > Fake Shiki > Ryuunosuke > Tomoe > Keita San > Shinji = Hisui = Kohaku

Add raildex characters in

>> No.5923080

>>5922937
Something as simple as Hrunting, Gaebolg or Excalbiur would most likely overload his syster, or for that matter possibly not even gfive a crap about it.
Ea would most likely not give a crap about it at all, and even so he could have some problems with having all reality around him being shred to shreds even so.
Caster has direct magic that doesn't care about vectors.
Zero-Rider could certainly starve him to death without much trouble, that is if not he or his friends could simply pommel himw ith something magical.

>> No.5923085

>>5923067
Imagination. Use it.

>> No.5923088

Magic (something happens as it wills given it's done right and has the energy/resources) > psuedo-science and "magic" (weird energy beam bullshit, you don't vector magic)

>> No.5923096

>>5923075
Didn't nasu say shiki t.= shirou ubw, cause cutting projections would shatter his mind

>> No.5923116

>>5923075

>ORT
>not actually the weakest of the Types

I mean, it has Crystal Valley, but that's nothing compared to Jupiter.

>> No.5923113

>>5923080
Nuclear bombs don't even faze Accelerator. Ea, might, though, given its reality shattering ability. But Accelerator's black wings runs on plot hax, so...Of course, they're not invincible since Aiwass wasn't fazed by them. Then again, Aiwass is supposedly a god-like entity....

>> No.5923111

>>5923075

>Lancelot (F-15)> Gilgamesh (Vimana) > Counter Guardian Archer

What the flying fuck?

The F-15 is NOT some sort of uber Noble Phantasm. It's just a rank D ride-based NP that has high maneuverability thanks to Lancelot's enhanced berserker speed. Vimana isn't even offense-based, it's a transport system.

Counter Guardian Archer would crush them both effortlessly and it shouldn't move them up in the first place.

>> No.5923126

>>5923116

It's described as a pure-offense entity that outclasses everything in sheer firepower.
Which is extremely vague anyway.
But then Nasu tacked a (maybe) onto it.

>> No.5923152

>>5923111

AND FURTHERMORE

>Lancelot >>> 4th Rider

WHAT THE COCK, ISKANDER FUCKING ONESHOT THAT BITCH

>> No.5923156

>>5923075
Type Mercury (ORT) = Ado Edem > Type Jupiter > Type Saturn > Type Pluto > Type Venus > Type Moon (Crimson Moon) > Primate Murder > Original Roa > Angra Mainyu > Zelretch (young) > Counter Guardian Archer > Gilgamesh (Tohsaka) > Gilgamesh (Kotomine) = Arcueid (standard 30%) > Dark Sakura > Dark Saber > Lancelot = Saber > 5th Berserker = 17th Roa (Elesia) > Dark Berserker > 4th Rider > 5th Lancer (optimal) > 4th Lancer = 5th Rider (Sakura/optimal) = 4th Caster (optimal) > 5th Lancer (Kotomine) = 5th Caster = 4th Caster (Ryuunosuke) > 5th Rider (Shinji) > Nrvnqsr = Clairvoyant Fujino = Kurogiri > Archer > Kouma > 5th Assassin = 4th Assassin > Aoko = Barthomeloi = Kojirou = Ciel = "Ryougi Shiki" = Souren Araya (within the Ogawa Building) > Gun God (Black Barrel) > Touko = El-Melloi = Night of Wallachia > Sion Tatari = Melty Blood Satsuki = R.Shiki = Akiha = Asagami Fujino = 18th Roa > Tohno SHIKI = Alba = Heaven痴 Feel Shirou = Kiri > Nanaya Shiki = Reinforced Kuzuki = Sion = UBW Shirou = Waver = Bazett > Avenger = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Luvia > Kiritsugu = Irisviel > Maiya = Leysritt = Tsukihime Satsuki = Lio = Avalon Shirou = Sakura = Ilya = Kariya = Len > Kirie = Caren = Meruka > The Dead = Possessed Corpse = Azaka = Misayo = Dragon Tooth Warrior = Fuji-nee > Fake Shiki > Gun God (unequipped) = Ryuunosuke = Tomoe = Shinji = Hisui = Kohaku

I liked the old one better

>> No.5923160

>>5922937
Depends on the servant

>> No.5923178

>>5923049
Planet busters vs Planets?

>> No.5923196

>>5923178

Planet busters vs. angry, sentient, super-powered planets.

>> No.5923210

>>5922937

Shiki > Accelerator Always

>> No.5923216

>>5923178
Planets that can fight back

>> No.5923233

>>5923075
>Add raildex characters in

Didn't we already do this with Touhou

>> No.5923260

>>5923059
New chart's not translated bro

>> No.5923315

>>5923075
>Lancelot (F-15)> Gilgamesh (Vimana) > Counter Guardian Archer

What?

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