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5900368 No.5900368 [Reply] [Original]

Rikafags, Rika will never love you unless you are awesome like Akasaka

>> No.5900374

Rika has a fetish for married man

>> No.5900384

Rika is a slut

>> No.5900415

>>5900384
A cute little slut.

>> No.5900423

Rika is interested in mature men.

>> No.5900441

Does Rika actually like him in any romantic way instead of seeing him as a big brother?

>> No.5900458

NIPAH

>> No.5900468

>>5900441

Rika has the mental maturity of a 1000 year old woman. Of course she is into older men.

>> No.5900474

>>5900441

She has big crush on him

I don't blame her. Akasaka is motherfucking superman in the novels

>> No.5900490

Lies

Rika loves me, she told me

>> No.5900498

>>5900468
Somehow I doubt she would actually have that mental maturity. If you live 100 years in the body of a child I doubt the brain would develop.

>> No.5900513

>>5900498
But she remembers.

>> No.5900561

>>5900513
Still she has a child's brain. I really wonder how that would work out. I mean I doubt her body could support an adult's brain. That and if the brain actually did mature she should have died since it technically would be aging. I think she should have remained thinking as a child.

>> No.5900601

Rika was a cute little girl.
Then she was trapped by an evil witch for a thousand years.
She finally was able to free herself and thus become the Witch of Miracles.
Unfortunately, she lost her humanity and became an evil witch herself...

FUCK RIKA, and FUCK YOU OP for saying that i'm her fan.

>> No.5900691

>>5900368
But she does love me.

>> No.5900727
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>>5900691

That's the Rika of your delusion

>> No.5900753

>>5900727
What does the Bern from Umineko have to do with anything? Episode 6 establishes a different origin story for her than that of Rika.

Plus, Higurashi had real parallel worlds as opposed to being a series of novels within the setting.

>> No.5900822
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>>5900753
>What does the Bern from Umineko have to do with anything?

Because

>> No.5900821

>>5900753
you read higurashi? bernkastel is there she explain rika the rules of higurashi world

>> No.5900829

>What does the Bern from Umineko have to do with anything? Episode 6 establishes a different origin story for her than that of Rika.

?
No, it didn't.
It's quite obvious R07 is trying to create an universe.

>> No.5900851

>>5900829
Another faggot who doesn't understand shit about Umineko

>> No.5900863

>>5900601
I thought Bern =/= Rika.

>> No.5900879

>>5900821
You ask me if I've read Higurashi when all you've read is the manga? Read Minagoroshi-hen. In case you don't want to, know that the anime was more accurate than the manga in that scene.

>> No.5900897 [DELETED] 

The are differents, but they are also related.

>>Episode 6 establishes a different origin story for her than that of Rika.

...no. Ep6 is just as vague as the previous eps on this, you can understand it how you want to.

>> No.5900901

>>5900863
bern=/= rika but rika = bern
bern is the junction of rika pieces from higurashi worlds, what happen in the games make bern born there so she observe everything but different from rika, bern doesnt have a heart

>> No.5900904

They are differents, but they are also related.

>>Episode 6 establishes a different origin story for her than that of Rika.

...no. Ep6 is just as vague as the previous eps on this, you can understand it how you want to.

>> No.5900930

>>5900897
Bern was said to have been a cat as well as the piece of a witch that was trapped due to a logic error.

Even if we were to accept that Higurashi and Umineko share the same universe, as opposed to Ryukishi simply putting Higurashi references in Umineko which is what I think is the case, Rika is the detective of Higurashi. She represents the human side, so how could she have been a witche's piece that got caught in a logic error?

>> No.5900944

>>5900901
The simplest explanation is that the Higurashi and Umineko Berns are different characters.

Rika is Bernkastel in Higurashi but she does have a heart and deeply cares for her friends. Bern in Umineko is a separate heartless character.

>> No.5900955

>>Rika is the detective of Higurashi

Are you conscious that being in the same universe doesn't mean that EVERY games played in this universe must follow the same rules?
Hanyuu alone changes Higurashi into a complete mess if you think like that.

>> No.5900964

>>5900955
Hanyuu does not help the detective solve the mystery and no supernatural agency caused the murder, so Knox's rules are upheld.

>> No.5901007

>>5900964
Knox rules are out from Higurashi to begin with.
We don't even know if all of them applies to umineko, so for higurashi, we should not even care. I'm talking about the rules of the games of the voyager witches in general. Not everything have to be a confrontation between mystery and fantasy, and so not everything needs a detective

>> No.5901032

>>5900964
>Hanyuu does not help the detective solve the mystery and no supernatural agency caused the murder, so Knox's rules are upheld.

I'm pretty sure Know rules out gods, diseases and parallels world, but hey, they are there

>> No.5901054

>>5901007
Why do you say that Knox's Decalogue does not apply to higurashi? The only one that might be argues to have been violated is rule 4.

>Not everything have to be a confrontation between mystery and fantasy, and so not everything needs a detective

Can you justify that? Episode 6 implies you have a mystery writer and a mystery solver in all cases.

>> No.5901064
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>>5900944
>Rika is Bernkastel in Higurashi but she does have a heart and deeply cares for her friends. Bern in Umineko is a separate heartless character.

After she's free, Bern in Higurashi plans to have fun and torture her friends for a while.
Sure sounds a good girl.

Also i don't see how someone that looks like Rika/Bern, acts liker Frederika, was once a human trapped in a logic error until she typed a "miracle" and was born from a "witch game" can be totally unrelated to Bernkastel Higurashi that did EXACTLY the same things.


>>5900851

Are you one of those faggots that "urr meta-world is just a fanfiction?"

The whole point of Featherine is that you can think whatever you want of that.

>> No.5901071

>>5901032
No supernatural agency was involved in either the murders or in solving the mystery. The rest is window dressing.

>> No.5901072

>>5901007
"Brain parasites" are not a "difficult to understand scientific explanation." Everybody knows what rabies does. A murder plot involving a pre-existing heart condition that may be discovered in the course of the investigation would be a corollary.

So long as you can discover what the reason for the insanity is through proper inquiry (asking about the legends concerning the region, and linking the insanity to a possible regional disease with a relation to the effects of rabies), then it's possible to determine that the motive is the result of a warped mind.

Hanyuu is just a throw away. No explanation for her, parallel realities, or Rika's foreknowledge.

>> No.5901093

>>5901071
>No supernatural agency was involved in either the murders or in solving the mystery. The rest is window dressing.

Except it was Hanyuu that told them who was the culprit.

Higurashi rapes Knox

>> No.5901102

>Higurashi follows knox
I don't know how /jp/'s when they cry readers could be any more stupid

>> No.5901106

>>5901064
Are you referring to the 52nd kakera? Bern doesn't say she wants to torture her friends; she says that she wants to see wacky hijinks instead.

By the way, there is no mention of witches in Higurashi. There is no reason to think Rika is trapped in a witches' game. You are applying things from Umineko onto Higurashi to prove a connection between the two, which is circular reasoning.

>> No.5901130

>>5901093
That only happens after Rika figures it out using information provided to her by Oiishi in Minagoroshi-hen. Hanyuu does not appear like a deus ex machina to announce the culprit; the mystery was solved in Minagoroshi-hen without her involvement.

>> No.5901137

>>5901106
lambdadelta tips

>> No.5901164
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5901164

>Are you referring to the 52nd kakera? Bern doesn't say she wants to torture her friends; she says that she wants to see wacky hijinks instead.

>Like a world where Satoshi is together with them or a world where the Sonozaki twins don't change places　
> wonder how would be a world where Satoko's parents and Rika's parents are well.　
>Aah, how would it be?
>If Akasaka was seduced by Takano and went to the enemy side.
>Ahaha, it seems interesting.　
>Personally, I have interest in seeing a world where that Takano is madly in love with Tomitake.　
>It seems to be interesting to try and play pairing Keiichi with many girls.
>I love fighting scenes.
>*Giggle*
>Well, I wonder what will I play next. There are as many pieces as I want.
>Hey, do you have some more?
>What do you want to play?

Sure sounds good

>he way, there is no mention of witches in Higurashi. There is no reason to think Rika is trapped in a witches' game

34's diary, Rika calling herself a witch.
Jeez, they even use "gameboard" and "pieces"

>> No.5901185

>>5901137
You mean Lambdadelta's diary? What about it? It's still Umineko material and does not apply to Higurashi.

>> No.5901209

>>5901164
Rika calls herself a witch because by moving between worlds she has transcended humanity. And there's still no evidence she's playing a game. People use game metaphors in real life too after all. Rika is simply influenced by the fact she spends most of her free time playing games with her friends.

>> No.5901272

>>5901185

By the same author and obvious refereing to what happened in Higurashi

Sure is delusion here

>> No.5901284

>>5901164
Essentially, what I think happened is that Ryukishi decided to take the witch and game metaphors from Higurashi and expand them and make them central in Umineko. The fact that these can be interpreted in such a way in Umineko does not mean that the same interpretation is valid for Higurashi or that they had the same significance in it.

And regarding Lambdadelta's diary; the only deal with the devil we see Takano make is the one between her an Nomura when she's an adult. When she was a loli she didn't even want to be a god; she only got that idea after Hifumi's suicide.

>> No.5901305

>>5901272
It doesn't match exactly. Takano doesn't want to be a god until after Hifumi's suicide. And just because it's a Higurashi reference does not mean that the two are connected. Do you also think that the Okonogi in Higurashi and Umineko are the same person?

>> No.5901325

>It doesn't match exactly.

Then why did he write it?
"Hey, let's have 34 a diary that seems to refer to Higurashi but it doesn't for the lulz"
Yeah, i can see R07 doing that.

>Takano doesn't want to be a god until after Hifumi's suicide.

He want to make her and him a god through their research.

>Do you also think that the Okonogi in Higurashi and Umineko are the same person?

Obviously no, different fragments.

>> No.5901366

>>5901325
Ryukishi did say that people who had read Higurashi would be tricked more easily, so he is trolling. And the diary entry is vague enough that it can't be used as a smoking gun.

As for Okonogi, my point is that it's an obvious Higurashi reference that has no significance; why should the other ones have any greater significance?

>> No.5901413

>Higurashi reference that has no significance; why should the other ones have any greater significance?

Because they expand and make Lambdadelta and Bern more interesting.

Don't compare cameo Okonogi to them.

>> No.5901410

>>5901106
How do you reach that kakera?

>> No.5901446

>>5901366
>>
Ryukishi did say that people who had read Higurashi would be tricked more easily, so he is trolling. And the diary entry is vague enough that it can't be used as a smoking gun.
This point is irrelevant here.
I seriously doubt of the fact that Bern and Lambda are decisive for Beato's game, so if the players are going to get tricked, it will rather be by something like a sonozaki twin bis or something like that. Until now, and if ep7 doesn't prove me wrong,bern and Lambda are not essential for the "mystery" element in umi.

>> No.5901530

>>5901410
It becomes available after finishing Matsuribayashi-hen.

>>5901446
It could also be referring to the parallel worlds which do not exist in Umineko, or to the fact that Bern turns out to be the antagonist instead of the protagonist.

>> No.5901537

>>5901413
The fact such an interpretation can be made does not necessarily mean it's valid. Umineko has plenty of cameos after all. What about Featherine for example? Both her speech and appearance are references to Hanyuu (not to mention the fact that Bern was her miko), but the two are unrelated. (Though seeing people go 'zomg hanyuu is evil!' was rather funny.) Why should Bern and ΛΔ be something more?

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>>5901537
>Why should Bern and ΛΔ be something more?

Because all the infos, background informations, diaries, dialogs referring to the past and Higurashi.

The real question is, why wouldn't they?

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5902061

My face when Higurashi thread turned into Uminekos.

>> No.5902140

>>5902016
Because Higurashi takes place in a multiverse while Umineko takes place in a fiction within a fiction.

There is a link between Higurashi and Umineko, but it's not about kakera or whatever, it's simply about a fiction referencing another fiction.
And Higurashi do exist as a novel in Umineko.

>> No.5902193

>>5902140
>Because Higurashi takes place in a multiverse while Umineko takes place in a fiction within a fiction.

The game makes a point whatever Featherine is Hachijo or Hachijo is Featherine.
The answer is: There is no answer, you can be anti-fantasy or you can believe in meta world.

>> No.5902206

>>5902061
It's a thread about the (lack of a) connection between the two.

>>5902140
Agreed. Umineko is a series of fictional writings within a world, unlike Higurashi where there really were multiple worlds. We've never seen what really happened in Rokkenjima. All we have are two fictional versions produced by the murderer and four produced by a random third party.

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5902276

>but it's not about kakera or whatever

I call bullshit

>> No.5902285

>>5902276
Which just mean that she could write another story about Ange.

>> No.5902288

Whether Umineko is connected to Higurashi or whether it isn't, does it actually matter? It's best to pretend Higurashi doesn't exist when solving Umineko anyway.

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>>5902285

Yeah, she's reading a story with Ange about her witch version talking to Ange about her fanfiction on Battler and Ange.

Sure it makes sense

There is tons of "mystical" things about Hachijo, Ange mentioning she doesn't remember that day, the weird flow of time and her purple eyes (=cross worlds character)

Captcha: natted fiction

>> No.5902323

>>5902305
>Yeah, she's reading a story with Ange about her witch version talking to Ange about her fanfiction on Battler and Ange.

That's meta-fiction which is pretty much the main point of Umineko.
But there is nothing mystical about Hachijou, you don't understand anything about Umineko if you believe otherwise

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>>5902323
>But there is nothing mystical about Hachijou

Yes, there is.
Just the fact she has purple eyes like EVERY Meta-world characters in Umineko should tell you something.

>you don't understand anything about Umineko if you believe otherwise

Oh, you are one of those faggots "lol you don't understand a things about Umineko".
Enlight me.

>> No.5904978

>>5902336
Most meta characters don't have purple eyes.

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