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Old thread autosaging >>5893264
Moonpeople > Yukari

>> No.5899113
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Yuyuko>Moonpeople

>> No.5899117

No. No more retarded moon powerlevel threads.

>> No.5899125
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>>5899113
She can`t kill Kaguya.
Eirin would "defeat" her by granting a personal cook (Reisen)

>> No.5899131
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5899131

What about Arc?

>> No.5899133

Eirin > *
Yukari may have a power that makes you throw any sort of planning or strategy out the door but she's shown to be capable of doing nothing that doesn't follow a semblance of logic.
Eirin? Hid the Earth in a pot. A pot that was on the Earth in her hands, even while she was also on the Earth in the pot. Then she painted a sky on the inside of the pot so no one knew they had been shrunken small enough to be contained in a pot that could fit on the Earth that was in the hands of a human-sized person. In the pot.

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>>5899125
Oh, we're talking about retard powerlevels?

Suika>Moon

You moonfags always seem to forget she was sleeping for the duration of Namek arc.

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>>5899144
Onis are Oni tier we already agreed on that.

Lunarians > Onis > Yukari

>> No.5899162
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5899162

Kaguyas hair > other touhous hair.

>> No.5899175

>>5899131
Arc is a earth girl, she is still the princess of the moon because Brunestud is the King of the moon.

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>>5899162
Kaguya has the best feet but I think Hina has the best hair.

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>>5899179
No.

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>>5899152
Oh please, Yukari outwitted them for a bottle of sake, I think that says enough about their strategic capabilities.

Unless of course you're talking about Eirin. YorixToyo are derp tier strictly because of derp intelligence. And don't go "yeah, but what if..." because I think Yukari is smarter than to face them out in the open seriously. Of course she would be toasted out in the open by everyone. Serious Yukari that faces you with honor and opens portals that throw trains is only for danmaku duels, not for actual battle.

>> No.5899203

Yuuka is the best touhou because she's christmas colors

>> No.5899208

>>5899179
Kanako clearly has the best hair.

>> No.5899213

Personally I think Suika has the cutest shirt and ribbon on her neck

>> No.5899219
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Yumeko is the hottest maid.

>> No.5899222

Yumemi has the best color scheme.

>> No.5899227
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5899227

Oh, do you love Kaguya?
Here you're.
You're welcome.

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>>5899222
Don't you think she could use a bit more red?

>> No.5899246
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>>5899227
>Oh, do you love Kaguya?
I love all girls with long black hair.
Glad there is one in every second eroge :)

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>>5899102
>Old thread autosaging
Oh wow, I've participated in quite a few powerlevel threads in my lifetime, but I've never seen something quite as disgraceful as this. I don't know if you did this because you're naive, or if you did it because you're an IN fan. You NEVER continue a powerlevel like this. Especially at this time of the day when the people who stayed up debating all night are still sleeping/recovering. Do you IN fans have no shame? This is essentially what you've just done: you got your ass handed to you in the other thread, waited to your opponents fell asleep from the spoils of war, then declared victory.

Say what you want about Suigin during the infamous Yukari vs Yuka debates, but the man had honor. This is just cowardly. If this is how the IN fans are, I want nothing to do with them. Not only do I want you to delete this thread, I want an apology for violating our powerlevel treaties.

I guess you kids see this as a game or some fun little chat. You don't understand that this is war. I used the last of my energy to type this. Good night asshole. Have fun talking to yourself.

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>>5899278
>implying im a IN fan

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>mon visage when I broke the moon by punching the heavens

>> No.5899299

>>5899292
Read the full thing. She did not actually destroy the moon.

>> No.5899311

>>5899299
Because she isn't able to, right?

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>>5899311
We don`t know this.
Welcome to Touhou powerlevel discussions.

>> No.5899320

>>5899299
I didn't say she destroyed it.

>> No.5899324

>>5899320
How do I break without destroying?

>> No.5899329

>>5899319
>derp
For all I know, "manipulation of density" pretty much means she can make the whole moon implode

>> No.5899343

>>5899133

So...there's a hole in the bottom of the sea on the earth in a pot in the hand of a woman on the earth in the pot?

>> No.5899347

>>5899329
We don`t know if she has enough power to do so.

>> No.5899351

>>5899347
Or enough range.

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>>5899347
>>5899351
Flandre on the other hand...

>> No.5899383

>>5899347
>>5899351
Pretty sure she spread herself all over Gensokyo and made herself into mist. That's not a problem.

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>>5899347
A simple punch she throws can destroy a mountain. I bet if she puts some spirit into it, she could probably do it. And hey, it's just the Moon, it's not a planet or anything.

>> No.5899403

>>5899383
You will never breath in Suika

bereavedamphibian.jpg

>> No.5899411
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HI!

>> No.5899417

>>5899403

It's alright. Even if I never get to see her, I usually better myself through things I think she would want me to do.

>> No.5899438
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5899438

Shikieiki > Suika = Yukari >= Yorihime >= Eirin > Toyohime = Yuyuko

Don't start powerlevel threads this early OP. Next time start it at around 16:00 or 17:00.

/Thread over

>> No.5899446

>>5899438
It was 18:00 here when I started it.

>> No.5899469

>>5899446
Next time go by 4chan's time. 4chan IS an American imageboard after all. Did you really think people would be awake after staying up in the previous powerlevel debate.

>> No.5899470

>>5899417
lay around drinking and taking it easy all day everyday?

>> No.5899478

moot is Eastern time, right?

>> No.5899503

>>5899470
No, I was thinking taking care of myself(Exercising, not eating terrible food) and at least trying to get a well paying position. I mean, if I ever do see her, I want her to be as content as possible, and hey, if I don't, I'll at least be able to live in comfort and I'll at least have helped people out throughout my life.

>> No.5899508

>>5899469
This powerlevel thread is for eurofags.

>> No.5899509

just popping by because i needed help solving umineko and i saw this
>Moonpeople > Yukari
at sucking dick maybe
in a fight they are fucked

peace

>> No.5899511

>5899438
It's not early at all. Staying up all night is normal for us. As are irregular sleep patterns.

As far as powerlevel threads go, these are fine. Much less in the way of whining than usual.

>> No.5899533

This is a terrible time to make one of these threads. I still haven't slept since the previous thread.

>> No.5899585

>>5899133
wow that's really useful
why are Eirin fans so stupid?
they always bring up "lol she's old as heck XD" or other stupid reasons that have no use in battle

>> No.5899619

>>5899509
Is that really you Suigin? I haven't seen you in a while.

>> No.5899646

>>5899585
I think his argument is "how do you fight something that can successfully strategize against you in an inexplicable or outright illogical way?"

(The answer from successful practice is head-on. Eirin even admitted that: "Oh, you want to play with me now? I'm afraid I lack the power to do it forever, but until morning... ").

>> No.5899661

>>5899646
Nothing Eirin can do would affect Yukari in a fight.
Just stripping Eirin of her immortality and punching her would kill her. (Remember youkai have huge physical strength, Patchy being the only exception.

>> No.5899708

>>5899133
>Hid the Earth in a pot. A pot that was on the Earth in her hands, even while she was also on the Earth in the pot. Then she painted a sky on the inside of the pot so no one knew they had been shrunken small enough to be contained in a pot that could fit on the Earth that was in the hands of a human-sized person. In the pot.
Despite having completed IN on lunatic, I've tried my best to avoid its plot. Having said that, what I've just read from you might be one of the dumbest plots I've ever read in my life. So she hid the Earth in a pot on Earth while being on Earth? I hope you're joking.

This is why true Touhou fans play Touhou for its gameplay and avoid ZUN's stories like the plague. Now I regret being lured into the Touhou wikia by Yukari's intriguing PMiSS article. IN's plot is "too much information."

>> No.5899711

>>5899661

You don't have your facts straight.
1) Eirin is not immortal
2) >Free from the bounds of life and death
You can't strip this immortality, it's perfect

>> No.5899719

>>5899661
Eirin isn't immortal and even in the "Final A" ending of IN it's a toss-up as to whether Kaguya gave Elixir to Eirin or if she used her own power to suspend Eirin in the moment just before she was defeated. That's neither here no there.

That's also giving way too little credit; even a solid punch against a normal human isn't a sure-kill (a youkai maybe, but enhanced strength isn't a guaranteed youkai power).

Furthermore, the events of IN are conflicting as far as what Yukari could have done to Eirin (as your argument is the opposite, what Eirin could do to Yukari). Yukari didn't do anything to Eirin. It was a danmaku battle.

>> No.5899740

>>5899708
Actually I'm fairly sure that refers to the "Earth in a Pot" spellcard, which in turn refers to the iron pot tsukumogami kamanari. Eirin did not held the Earth in a pot, she has a spellcard that references a certain youkai.

Spellcards aren't meant to be real, they're meant to have cool names. Remilia doesn't necessarily have Gungnir, nor Flandre Lavaetain.

>> No.5899748
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The only indication that Yorihime is strong is that she's the only person to win against Reimu in a duel. Suika, Yukari, Yuka, and Eirin have lost against Reimu in a spellcard duel. Yeah it's true that they were holding back, but Yorihime was also holding back.

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>>5899740
I disagree

>> No.5899781

Everyone's still butthurt that the moonbitches are more powerful?

Hahahaha!
Seriously, so fucking what? Deal with it.

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My Touhou is stronger then your Touhou.

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>>5899748
You just said it yourself, a spellcard fight. Don't mix it up, the touhous that lost to Yorihime on Namek lost in danmaku (and even that is retarded as Yorihime practically threw no danmaku of her own, but rather Mary Sued her way to win), if they didn't bring up the danmaku subject and the rabbits just went on to execute them, Sakuya would just either Eternal Meek them or stop time to protect her Lady. Actually, the only indication we have that Yorihime is so uber is that she pointed everyone's danmaku back at them.

This is also why discussing actual powers and not danmaku skills is always fruitless, as we don't know what defeats what and if it even works in a rock-paper-scissors motif.
If you want to say Yorihime is stronger because she defeated Reimu in a danmaku duel, so be it, as long as you keep it to danmaku. And even by that logic, Suika, Yukari, Aya, Yuka and Tenshi can take her on, they all claimed to hold back too, why not believe them?

>> No.5899814

>>5899740
That's still the best I can gather about the "giant sealed chamber" Eirin claimed to have placed the Earth inside. If no one from the outside (Moon) could ever go inside (Earth) that could only mean the "lid" was only accessible from inside the "pot." Ehh, like Reimu said "That doesn't make any sense;" skip it.

Even the youkai of gaps and borders didn't realize it, until she saw the fake Moon and, even then, the extent of the "giant sealed chamber" was only realized after Reisen and Eirin tried to explain it.

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>>5899812
>Sakuya would just either Eternal Meek them or stop time to protect her Lady.

Yorihime has peaches defense. Sakuya can`t do shit against this..
See Tenshis scenario.

>> No.5899834
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>Lunarians

>> No.5899855

>>5899828
Aren't Moon peaches different from Heaven peaches though?

>> No.5899857

>>5899711
boundary between fredom and captivity

>> No.5899860

>>5899855
If I remember correctly they are the same.

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>>5899748
>Suika, Yukari, Yuka, and Eirin have lost against Reimu in a spellcard duel.
Yukari is one of the youkai sages that enforced the spellcard duels. No youkai cares more about Gensokyo's well being than Yukari. She's also the one that told youkai to migrate to Gensokyo. Reimu is like her bio-mechanical gate guard. Yukari didn't fight Reimu so much as she tested the extent of Reimu's abilities. As seen in this picture, Reimu is no match for Yukari, even while Yukari is going easy on her. Also see this:
>No matter how confident one is in their abilities, it would be wise not to attempt to pursue this youkai.
>Though, she would likely make allowances for the power of her opponent so as not to allow the battle to become too vicious.
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

Eirin doesn't really have an excuse for losing as she had no incentives. Holding back in such a situation would have only placed her NEET in more danger. Not to mention the fact that her apprentice, Yorihime, held back and still managed to draw against Reimu.

As for Yuka, there were no spellcard duels back then so your argument is moot. At least learn before posting. Oh, and just like all the youkai of Gensokyo, they have reasons for not killing Reimu.

Suika is not canon unless I say it is.

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>> No.5899876

>>5899871
Fuck you, Suika's scenario is the best scenario in the entire game.

>> No.5899888
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Has black Tewi been posted yet?

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>>5899860
Then, I guess that makes her indeed stronger.

Than Sakuya and gang, that is. But that doesn't guarantee she can challenge Yukari to a non-danmaku fight, something that, frankly, is near impossible for anyone to accomplish due to bullshit gap power.

That aside, I don't think Eirin wouldn't want to harm Yukari, as the Border would collapse and Teruyo would be exposed. After all she's still supposed to be exiled and hidden from, right?

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Shinki is a creator god therefore on the level of dragons.
Shinki is the strongest god

>> No.5899900

>>5899890
I thought IN severed the moonbitches route from the moon so that it wouldn't even matter if the Hakurei border collapsed.

>> No.5899904
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Moonpeople fail next to these two beasts.

/thread.

>> No.5899906

>>5899894
Shinki just made a pocket dimension. That shit is child's play.

>> No.5899910

>>5899906
Her profile says she created a world end everything in there. This includes a maid more perfect then the perfect maid.

>> No.5899914

>>5899910
>and

fuck im going to bed

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>>5899900
Yeah, that was the case, although I remember Eirin saying that in the end, the Border was good enough of a measure and saved the trouble of a charm or some shit like that.
Guess, I'll just go rush through IN to fresh up my memory.

>> No.5899929
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Next game will have Lovecraftian horrors.

>> No.5899932

Isn't Flandre's power the ability to destroy "anything"? Doesn't that mean Immortality in the Touhouverse is impossible, as Flandre can break it by definition?

Why's this debate still going again?

>> No.5899941

>>5899932
She can destroy Mokou and Kaguya but they will get back up.

Finally a toy that wont break.

>> No.5899947

>>5899871
Correction: Kaguya was never in danger in IN.

>>Suika, Yukari, Yuka, and Eirin have lost against Reimu in a spellcard duel.
Since the fighting games, nearly everyone has lost against everyone else, but Eirin hasn't lost against Reimu, Suika hasn't either. Tenshi wanted to lose, but she won the rematch.

>> No.5899956

>>5899932
>Why's this debate still going again?
Because the OP is rude.

>>5899929
Been there done that:Yukari.

>>5899914
Same here.

>> No.5899978

>>.5899947
What was the story on Suika again? How did her battle end? I don't play the fighting games because I'm not a faggot that plays things simply because they're called Touhou.

>> No.5899983
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Tewi is the sexiest.

>> No.5899997

>>5899932
she can destroy Mokou, but even if she does, she still can't die.

>> No.5900032

>>5899978
How about being a faggot who plays them because they're good games?

>> No.5900046
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If I was to make a Yukari Portal game, would you play it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TluRVBhmf8w

>> No.5900064

If you go by the #1 good ends in Touhou (as in they are labelled as such) Suika actually beats Reimu in iamp. So does Tenshi.

>> No.5900071

>>5899978
Suika's scenario was her calling out everyone and being a huge bitch. Go read it on the wiki and download the endings list.

>> No.5900086

>>5900046
Yes.

>> No.5900091

>>5900046
Probably

>> No.5900128

>>5900086
>>5900091
What if it was a 2D side-scroller?

>> No.5900185

>>5899748

Suika, Yukari and Tenshi defeated Reimu in IaMP/SWR.

>> No.5900189

>>5899871
Eirin did not use more power than Kaguya had in IN. She has much more power. Kaguya being in danger has no bearing on this fact.

>> No.5900195

>>5899978
>I'm a faggot secondary that's never beaten a single touhou

fix'd.

>> No.5900226

>>5899932

She can destroy their bodies with ease, but their souls can not be destroyed.

They would need weeks if not months to regenerate though.

>> No.5900254

>>5900226
Seems to me by that logic, both Mokou and Kaguya are little more than Ciel-tier. A descriptor, not an insult.

As for the Mary Sue twins, I'll leave that be since I didn't get past three chapters of that manga and am not bored enough to try.

>> No.5900278

>>5900189
It's unknown if she kept her power lowered while Kaguya was in danger. Kaguya actually ended up giving her power at one point:
Kaguya: "Eirin, I grant you one more chance with my power."
"Don't you dare lose again..."
"You two, human and youkai!"
"Eirin's true strength, the medicine made by my power... you will never forget this!! "
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Imperishable_Night:_Boundary_Team%27s_Scenario_2

Now compare this with Yorihime who fought against Remilia, Sakuya, Marisa, and Reimu while relying on 5 out of million+ summons. Even with Reisen, Tewi, and Kaguya, Reimu managed to defeat Eirin in one night with enough energy left to defeat Mokou.

>> No.5900283

>>5899133

>Hid the Earth in a pot. A pot that was on the Earth in her hands, even while she was also on the Earth in the pot. Then she painted a sky on the inside of the pot so no one knew they had been shrunken small enough to be contained in a pot that could fit on the Earth that was in the hands of a human-sized person. In the pot.

This sounds like something out of a Terry Pratchett novel. The kind of straight up impossible thing that can only hold up so long as the universe doesn't catch on to what you're trying to pull.

>> No.5900292

>>5900278
Hurr. Of course Eirin needed help; she wasn't allowing herself to use as much power as Kaguya could.

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>>5900226
>weeks of regenerating

If she destroys her entire body she resurrects instantly. It's the pain she'd have to put up with for weeks.

>> No.5900326

>>5900278

Reimu and Yukari does not win on that route, she wins only on the route where she fights with Kaguya solo

>> No.5900331

>>5900278
Or it could be that Yukari did all of the work and Reimu just went along for the ride. Judging from Mokou's response to Yukari, I'm guessing the latter. If you actually read this it looks as if Reimu and Yukari bloodied up Mokou badly:
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Imperishable_Night:_Boundary_Team%27s_Extra

And let's not forget Keine (in her transformed state).

>> No.5900365

>>5900331
yes, yes, we all know that she's more powerful than Mokou! That's obvious. But she did admit that Mokou was indeed invincible and she could not kill her.
But what does that have to do with Eirin and Yukari? If you ask me, they're on just about the same level.
Chances are, Infinite mind grants Eirin prepareration for everything Yukari will do, and Yukari's boundary abilities grants her a virtually limitless power to fight with. It's practically infinite vs infinite. Neither side can loose, it'll be a never-ending battle.

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>>5900365
This. And it's not just infinite versus infinite, it's limitless power+major intellect vs. limitless intellect+major power.
The only thing that would prevent them battling for eternity would be Eirin's lack of stamina.
Which is also why they would rather cooperate than get in a serious fight.

>> No.5900467

>>5900313
>Such a body heals unusually quickly, and even critical injuries will be completely healed in a matter of days

Days, not seconds.

>> No.5900484

>>5900467

those are just injuries. In IN, she blows into oblivion several times only to be resurrected as a whole in an instant.

>> No.5900495
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You guys realize that Eirin is just a human, right? PMiSS and CoLA confirm that she predated the Lunarian Capital [1][2]. How can a granny with a few life extensions fight on par with a youkai?

In PMiSS, youkai bodies are described to be invulnerable to conventional weaponry. Meaning if you cut them into pieces they would still survive. They've also been described with bodies capable of moving faster than the eye can follow. Strength capable of breaking boulders. As for intelligence, Ran can solve complex equations in milliseconds [3][4][5].

Eirin is just a human with a lot of knowledge. Unlike the Lunarians who evolved in a pure society, Eirin has no inherent power or ability of her own (other than being a smart human). With enough time any youkai can surpass her. Kaguya 10k years from now will know everything Eirin does, except she'll also have her inherent Lunarian abilities.

[1] http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Eirin_Yagokoro
[2] http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Cola
[3] http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Encyclopedia:_Presence
[4] http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Remilia#Immaterial_and_Missing_Power_-_.E4.B8.8A.E6.B5.B7.E3.82.A2.E3.8
3.AA.E3.82.B9.E9.80.9A.E4.BF.A1.txt
[5] http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Article_and_Interview:_Ran

>> No.5900532

>>5900495

Eirin isn't just an ordinary human. Her intellect is infinite, that is made obvious with her name and with what she can do. It's already settled.
See >>5900365 and >>5900414
And DO actually read them this time...

>> No.5900568

>>5900495
Eirin's intelligence is infinite. Even if Kaguya's intellegence rises with time, it will only keep going higher and higher. It never actually reaches infinity, just like if you keep counting to "infinity".

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>>5900495
and? she's stil a sexy hag

>> No.5900612

>>5900568
You can count to infinity with an infinite amount of time, which Kaguya has.

>> No.5900626

>>5900612
on the contrary, that means that you have to be counting forever, which means you'll never reach it.

>> No.5900641

If I change my name to Eirin Yagokoro, could I have infinite knowledge?

>> No.5900654

>>5900278
Always intentionally forgetting that they were 3 people, not one.
>Or it could be that Yukari did all of the work and Reimu just went along for the ride. Judging from Mokou's response to Yukari, I'm guessing the latter.
Both fight equally. Don't read too much into manjuu jokes or translation notes.

>> No.5900681

>>5900641

stop playing the sarcasm game. She's implied to have infinite knowledge. If you can't accept that you're rejecting the game/atmosphere and being biased in favor of Yukari. They're on par. Deal with it or shut up.

>> No.5900687

>>5900681
If she has infinite knowledge, why did she lose SSiB? You're being silly.

>> No.5900697

>>5900687
She didn't participate, so she didn't lose.

>> No.5900700

>>5900532
>>5900641
If names have hidden implications in the Touhouverse, then that means Yukari is evil.

>"Training Reimu...? A youkai? That's odd, a youkai training a youkai hunter...She has to be plotting something. What are you going to do about it, Reimu?" Gensokyo is the place it is because of Yukari's ability to control borders. Her power is what separates Gensokyo from the outside world. There really aren't any youkai in Gensokyo who could go against her will. Needless to say, a human probably wouldn't stand a chance. " ... Yukari ... Yakumo, huh. Since she probably chose the name 'Yakumo' herself, I guess you have no choice but to bend to her will."

>"The 'Yukari' in Yukari Yakumo's name means violet, and violet is the outer-most color in the rainbow. In fact, when a dragon flies through the sky, the pair of rainbows it leaves behind appear to be an identical set, but in fact, the outermost color of both is violet." The border between the rainbow and the sky is certainly colored violet.

>"So, just going by that, her name obviously is a reference to borders, right? But, that's not all. Her other name, Yakumo ... if you take it literally, it refers to the kind of clouds that pile up on themselves in many layers." "Getting to the point, aside from the primary meaning of borders, Yukari Yakumo's name also has the hidden meaning of 'A strong fortress to keep the gods trapped inside'. Now, if you substitute shrine maidens for the gods, it's obviously Gensokyo. Yukari will never let the shrine maidens escape from Gensokyo."

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Curiosities_of_Lotus_Asia:_Chapter_25

>> No.5900704

>>5900641

Infinite knowldege =/= infinite power. She fought on the spot.
It could be very possible she didn't care enough about it to go through the trouble of severe preperations prior to the fight. The same goes with Imperishable Night. If she really is infinite-minded, she would have known that the border in Gensokyo would have been enough to keep the lunarians out and only fought out of the slight hesitation for the Princess which she loves so.

>> No.5900707

>>5900697
It was a proxy war. Did you even read SSiB?

>> No.5900708

>>5900700
Is that the same Kourin who drinks fossils are dragon bones?

>> No.5900710

>>5900612
No. Infinity is not even a number. You will never count to it.

>>5900681
Eirin obviously lacks omniscience, regardless of implications.

>> No.5900713

>>5900700
Bunbunmaru News
Shopkeeper exposes Yukarist conspiracy.

>> No.5900730

>>5900707
Eirin helped both sides. She wasn't actually competing with Yukari.

>> No.5900734

>>5900710
Then with that logic, Yukari lacks border manipulating abilities, regardless of implications

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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picutre) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yuuka > Yukari > Flandre > Yuugi > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mokou = Kaguya > Suika > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Iku > Elly > Nue > EX Keine Wing Gundam > Mima > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picutre) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yuuka > Yukari > Flandre > Yuugi > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mokou = Kaguya > Suika > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Iku > Elly > Nue > EX Keine > Wing Gundam > Mima > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

>> No.5900760

>>5900700
OF COURSE SHE IS EVIL SHE IS A YOUKAI!!
do you even know what youkai originally are? Impurities set on the Earth BY THE MOON
god damn this is a doujin that revolves around a bunch of fables if you faggots can't understand that then please, stop reading the literacy part of the series

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>>5900740
Iku should be higher ranked. She can call on the power of the Dragon, after all.

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>>5900687
As a Yukarifag, i have to disagree with that statement. Eirin probably had a hold of Yukari's plan, almost from the beginning even, it was the Watatsuderp sisters that lost and Eirin even gave them hints. She probably had already figured it out during Remi's party. The fact that she didn't take any part in the whole mindfuck is a completely different subject. She probably wanted to test her students' ability in a spectacular chess game against Yukari.


Eirin never was serious in the SSiB event and neither was Yukari, hell, the latter even started dicking around with Toyohime by casually revealing herself. Do you think a brain of Yukari's caliber would basically paint a bullseye and a label "HIT ME" on herself without a reason? She knew Toyohime would fuck it up and take the bait and so did Eirin.

>> No.5900773

>>5900760
Evil people don't swear to uphold everlasting peace, you fucking idiot.

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>>5900700
We've already agreed that Yukari is holding back and will be the final boss of the 'final' Touhou game in a climatic showdown reminiscent of FLCL. Animated by Gainax.

>> No.5900799

>>5900765
That's nice, but most of what you said is interpretations. Fanon territory.

>> No.5900808

>>5900765
Hence Eirin's uneasy expression in the final chapters.

>> No.5900811

>>5900799
What part of what I said was an interpretation? And, if it is, honestly, do you think you have the right to even say that in a thread that is ENTIRELY SPECULATION, hello!?

>> No.5900817

>>5900773

but evil people do lie. Jeez, you sure are thick

>> No.5900818

Hopefully now that the final chapters of CCiLR were now added to the wiki, they would be translated soon and some of the unanswered questions would be revealed.

>> No.5900826

>>5900808
she was worried her students were stupider than she thought and regretted for not being there for them on the moon so many years ago

>> No.5900840

>>5900811
I just read your post again and I can't find a single bit that isn't speculation.

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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picutre) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yuuka > Yukari > Flandre > Yuugi > Suika > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mokou = Kaguya > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Iku > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Elly > Nue > EX Keine > Wing Gundam > Mima > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

Fixed.

>> No.5900847

>>5900817
Yukari has never done anything to warrant being labeled as a liar. In fact, I can't remember a single time she's ever lied in the entire series.

>> No.5900848

Will you guys quit it. I thought we agreed to end this debate. This thread was doomed to fail before it was conceived. The term powerlevel is not a noun, it's an adjective to describe something terrible. In summary, you have to be more subtle next time. And you shouldn't make a thread at this hour, regardless. Take note: OP's style of declaration only promotes anger and fanboyism. I'm surprised he didn't attract the /co/ and Demonbane crowd.

>> No.5900849

>>5900818
Yeah hopefully it gets translated soon too, CiLR is by far the better written material that ZUN produced, that or CoLA for its weird humor.

>> No.5900853

>>5900799
More than interpretation. Even before Remi announced her rocket plans, even before most of Yukari's actors started on their performance, she sent a message of instructions to her pupils, predicting who would most likely be going to the Moon and how to counter them. She told Yorihime to go to one place and Toyohime to go somewhere else, intentionally catching the two distractions (and Yukari wanted to be caught), so she must have known about the actual invasion party, who it was, and what they would prioritize. She also had Reisen planted rumors of a spy amongst the Lunar Defense Corps to specifically implicate Yorihime, for which the appearance of Reimu (summoning the gods) would clear her name.

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>>5900845
Powerlevels approved.

>> No.5900878

>>5900849
It's obvious that you've never read CiLR or you wouldn't be saying that.

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Bitches please...

>> No.5900899

>>5900848
I find it funny that you're getting all worked up about this. Like there's any style or correct time to create a proper powerlevel thread.

BTW, OP is right. Get more worked up, it excites me

>> No.5900900

>>5900847
She exaggerates so much that one could consider it lying.

Yukari: ..Huff, never thought mountain climbing would become so difficult at this age.
Komachi: Whoa, you just came out of nowhere.
Yukari: Mountain climbing is boring.
Komachi: Didn't you just warp here? Mountain climbing isn't that big a deal, really....

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Scarlet_Weather_Rhapsody:_Yukari%27s_Scenario

>> No.5900902

>>5900773
Evil doesn't mean they won't chaos.

>> No.5900908

>>5900847
have you ever heard the saying "good liars often tell truths" or "the ones who lie, you can always count on them lying. It's the honest ones you want to look out for"

>> No.5900912

>>5900840
First of all, find me a bit in the whole Watatsuki sisters>Yukari or Yukari vs. Eirin powerlevel argument that isn't speculation when the first never happened (Yukari surrendering like that is NOT a fight) and the second was a danmaku duel.

Second, Eirin didn't go to Remi's party just to drink, but to spy on her retarded rocket, and that is not speculation, we saw her spying on the rocket room with Reisen.

>> No.5900919

>>5900845
So um...

Why is Shikieki > Everyone else?

>> No.5900952

>>5900734
...what? Are you retarded? There's nothing even to say to this.

>>5900773
Peace isn't "good." Plenty of villains have shown this.

>>5900902
Chaos is not a verb.

>>5900765
>...and so did Eirin.
There's nothing to suggest this.

>> No.5900954

>>5900912
I should have been clearer, sorry. Everything you said that isn't directly observable is speculation. All your talk about the reasons for them doing things, I mean.

>> No.5900956

>>5900919
Highest Judge of the Paradise ain't enough power for ya, bub?

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/thread

>> No.5900967 [DELETED] 

>>5900845

OLOLOLOLOLOLOL I RAPE YOUR WHOLE YUKARI > EVERYONE ELSE SHIT BECAUSE I IZ THE LAW, AND THE MOST POWERFUL.

>> No.5900982
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>>5900845
LOOLOLOLOLOLOL

I RAPE YOUR WHOLE YUAKRI > EVERYONE ELSE SHIT. I AM THE FUCKING LAW.

>> No.5901011
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>>5900982
She can only judge dead people.

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>>5900954
Hey, I did say "probably", I mean, I guess when you're fighting over a fucking bottle of sake, you probably aren't serious and just dicking around with each other, right? And, hey, if the occasion involved my two students, I'd test them too.

That part IS speculation, but it's the most easily observable one from our point of view, their true reasons and intentions are indeed hidden. Maybe they masturbate to outwitting one another, maybe they test their minions for a real fight, who knows? Not me, that's for sure.

>> No.5901024

>>5900919
It's the law, just like the laws of thermodynamics, but on a divine level.

>> No.5901029
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This video explains in detail why Yukari is powerful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkxieS-6WuA

Beings who have the power to mess around with dimensions and realities are in a different league. Hence the reason why Demonbane and Tenchi are considered the strongest characters in fiction. How would a character like Eirin go about attacking Yukari if she was hiding (or sleeping) in the boundaries between the upper dimensions?

>> No.5901038

>>5901011
Her power is absolute, she even expanded a whole dimension.

>> No.5901040

>>5901029
Yukari is not that powerful.

>> No.5901042
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>>5901011
No, she can only SENTENCE dead people. She judges everyone. And lectures them.

>> No.5901048

>>5901038
She did it in the realm of dead people.
She cant do shit up there.

>> No.5901049
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>>5901029
Because Eirin being the super genius she is would know how to get to those dimensions and how they work

>> No.5901058

>>5901040
You can't just say "Yukari is not that powerful" without providing an opposing interpretation to back up your words. And no, canon doesn't count because Yukari never uses her full power in canon.

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>>5901040
Yes she is, and it's canon.

>The ability to manipulate boundaries is an ability of logical creation and destruction.
>It essentially creates a new being, or denies the existence of a being.
>Among the abilities youkai are known to possess, this is one of the most dangerous, being comparable even to the power of gods.
>She is also capable of going anywhere through a gap in space, whether it be her entire body or only a part of her.
>It's said that this ability is not limited to physical space, but also applies to pictures, others' dreams, and even stories.
>In addition, she is possessed of superhuman intellect, and is especially good at mathematics.
>Furthermore, due to her long lifespan, she has a broad range of knowledge and experience.

The only thing that almost prevent her from being a complete Mary Sue is the fact that she's a total dickhead.

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shiki can kill servants, discuss

>> No.5901075

>>5901058
>canon doesn't count because

So you are saying that we should consider a character OFFICIALLY powerful without using official stuff but self-interpretation/desire and fan works instead? This is the most retarded shit I read the whole day.

>> No.5901076 [DELETED] 

[this thread is making me cry.]

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>>5901029
This video's sound effects always creep me out.

>> No.5901111

>>5901075
While the way he phrased it was stupid, you still fail at reading comprehension. He is correct in that "Yukari having not shown a particular level of power in canon does not indicate that Yukari is incapable of showing that level of power," assuming "Yukari never uses her full power in canon."

>> No.5901115

>>5901075
I never said officially. There is no official word on how powerful Yukari is. None. Zero. The only way you can even talk about it is with interpretations that change depending on individual whims.

>> No.5901129

>>5901115
What the fuck am I reading.jpg

There are multiple lines saying about Yukari's power in official works.

>> No.5901134

>>5901129
None of them say anything about her maximum power and even if they did they're all said from narrator viewpoints and are thus unreliable.

sorry if this is phrased stupid but I"m fucking tired

>> No.5901140

>>5901049
You can only have knowledge that exists.

>> No.5901142

>>5901040
>Yukari is not that powerful.
Don't put words into my mouth, I'm just miming what I've seen from Yukari's PMiSS article:
>The project refers to a plan designed and implemented by Yukari in order to restore power to the youkai of Gensokyo, who felt pressured by human expansion.
>Until then Gensokyo was merely an isolated mountain place, but she planned to create the boundary between illusion and reality around Gensokyo, thus logically creating a new world.
>By establishing Gensokyo as an illusionary world, and the outside as the real world, the youkai weakened by the outside world would naturally flock to Gensokyo; this was a truly epochal event.
In this case she manipulated the boundaries between two abstract concepts and created a zone where youkai are no longer weakened by reality.

>The ability to manipulate boundaries is a terrifying ability capable of fundamentally undermining reality.
>As you know, everything is built upon the existence of boundaries.
>If there were no boundaries, everything would probably exist as a single enormous object. Thus, the ability to manipulate boundaries is an ability of logical creation and destruction. It essentially creates a new being, or denies the existence of a being.
>Among the abilities youkai are known to possess, this is one of the most dangerous, being comparable even to the power of gods.

Yukari takes it a step further and starts getting into Looney Tunes territory:
>It's said that this ability is not limited to physical space, but also applies to pictures, others' dreams, and even stories.
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

>> No.5901143

>>5901134
no, I get it now.

>> No.5901159

>>5901142
Sup Akyu. Yeah, we believe everything you write, right guys?

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>>5901140
She has super-human intellect, she probably has answered all of the current scientific questions, plus she was free from centuries of religious science boycotting, so she had more than five times the time to spend pondering these subjects.

You are also reading this in my voice. Manually.

>> No.5901169

>>5901140
However, we cannot discount the existence of any method, due to our own lack of omniscience.

>> No.5901188 [DELETED] 

>>5901160
No, I can't imagine him something so mathematically/historically/scientifically ignorant.

>> No.5901203

>>5901159
Why not? You know, in case you haven't noticed, the whole "derp I don't believe in Akyu" is, in itself, fanon bullshit of the worst kind, especially when she is a chronicler. Not every chronicler has to be fucking Herodotus, nowadays they have learned to be more honest.

>> No.5901210

>>5901029
I love that video. What the heck is wrong with you IN fans. Do you not see the beauty in Yukari's originality? I'd be advocating for her even if I hated her personality. Yukari is the type of character that stretches the limits of one's imagination. Eirin on the other hand, is just a combination of two (cliched) archetypes: doctor and mad scientist. Can you say been there done that?

Another thing that's original about Yukari is that in video games you usually don't have characters as powerful as Yukari on the good guys' side. Yukari is easily the first, second or third strongest character in the Touhouverse (not including the Gods).

>> No.5901230

>>5901203
We've already gone over why Akyu is untrustworthy countless times. Go read one of the old arguments; I'm going to bed.

>> No.5901247

>>5901210
>Yukari blah blah blah what's wrong with you IN fans blah blah blah my opinions>your opinions

>> No.5901256

>>5901247
fucking THIS. THIS WHOLE THREAD AND THE LAST

>> No.5901294

These threads would be so much better if any of the participants had a bit of creativity in their bodies so they could show their own visions instead of constantly referring back to a common source and arguing over it.

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HOW ABOUT WE SEND A LETTER TO OUR LEADER AND ASK HIM TO MAKE A POWERLEVEL CHART. THEN, WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY.

>> No.5901322

>>5901294
I tried that and all my ideas were brushed off as "speculation". Fuck original ideas.

>> No.5901342
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HOW ABOUT WE SEND A LETTER TO OUR LEADER AND ASK HIM TO MAKE A POWERLEVEL CHART? ALL OUR QUESTIONS WILL THEN BE PUT TO REST AND WE WILL NEVER HAVE THIS FUCKING ARGUMENT AGAIN, EVER.

>> No.5901358

>>5901342
finally! words that are actually worth something!

>> No.5901367
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5901367

>>5901342
Touhou isn't your faggot Marvel comics, kid. Nothing matters but danmaku.

>> No.5901385

>>5901342

ZUN doesn't acknowledge the western touhou fanbase.

Good luck.

>> No.5901398

>>5901385
I bet if we had a convention as big as Reitaisai and asked ZUN to come sell his games at it he would.

>> No.5901429
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5901429

>>5901398

I wish you luck on your endeavors.

>> No.5901433

>>5901398
in other words you're saying you know nothing about him

>> No.5901448

>>5901433
Has ZUN ever stated his deep hatred of Western fanbase somewhere?

>> No.5901467

>>5901448
the most he ever said was "Shmups are too hard for Americans". ;_;

>> No.5901498

>>5901467
More like too boring. Please give me more StB and DS style games ZUN.

>> No.5901544

EX-Tier:
VIVIT>EX-Yuka (Youkai Moe)>Shinki>=Shiki Eiki>EX-Alice>Yukari>=Yuugi>Tenshi>=Suika>Reimu>Flandre>Koishi
A Tier:
Kaguya>=Mokou>Yuyuko=Komachi>Remilia>=Yuka>Eirin>EX-Keine=Toyohime>Yorihime=Evi
l Eye Sigma>Utsuho=Yumeko=Kanako>Byakuren>Suwako>Gengetu=Ran(PCB Extra)=Mima>Mugetu>Aya>Marisa>Medicine>Yumemi>Satori=Patchouli(Top Condition)>Nue>Chiyuri>Rikako
B Tier:
Sakuya>Keine>Sanae>Youmu>Alice(PCB)>Mai=Chen(PCB Extra)>Orin=Yuki=Reisen>Murasa>Ichirin=Syou>Prismrivers>Elly>Kurumi>Nitori>T
ewi=Alice(MS)=China>Hina>Meira>Luize>=Sara>Patchouli (Low Condition)
C Tier:
Yamame>Minoriko=Letty>Cirno>Flower Tank>Parsee>Shizuha>Chen(Normal)>Mystia=Kogasa>Wriggle>Rumia>Nazrin=Orange>E
llen=Kotohime>Three Mischievous fairies

I know this will generate many mad fanboys but deal with it.
It's as real as it gets.

>> No.5901547

Alright already, enough is enough. I better not see another powerlevel thread until a week from now.

>> No.5901555
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5901555

>>5901498
ZUN games

>Too boring

Get out of JP

>> No.5901561

>>5901544
Too much Full Disney and not enough REAL deal.

>> No.5901565 [DELETED] 

>>5901544

Or

>>5900845

?

>> No.5901585

>>5901555
I hate having to go through a boring stage to get to the boss fights. Is that so wrong?

>> No.5901594

>>5901561
>DISNEY, REAL DEAL

Oh for fuck's sake.

>> No.5901597
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5901597

>>5901544
What about Ex-Ran?

Foxes start life with 1 tail and gain an extra tail once every hundred years. So at 100 years old they would have 2, and at 800 would have 9. At this point, assuming Ran follows traditional folklore, she will eventually start losing tails until she has 4 and will be considered a "Tenko" (heaven) type of fox and will then be one step away from divinity.
>one step away from divinity

>> No.5901619

The power to manipulate boundaries is worthless against the power to manipulate darkness in all its forms.

>> No.5901620
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5901620

>>5901597
Ran age 1000.

>> No.5901632

What's an Ex-touhou?

>> No.5901635

>>5901632
A more powerful version of a normal Touhou. For example, Ex-Cirno.

>> No.5901646

>>5901632
It's the Touhous at their maximum potential. Or its a rank of the extra stage bosses used in StB.

>> No.5901665

>>5901544
Welcome back, Suigin. What about EX-Marisa, Marisa in the future who fights VIVIT and splits into two like Yuuka?

>> No.5901666

>>5901646
No, it's Touhous at EX-level potential. It's never implied that ex-level is their maximum.

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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picutre) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yukari > Yuuka > Flandre > Yuugi > Suika >Watatsuki sisters > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mokou = Kaguya > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Iku > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Elly > Nue > EX Keine > Wing Gundam > Mima > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

Now it is fixed, Sorry about that.

>> No.5901706

>>5901597
So what's the next step?

>> No.5901712
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5901712

>>5901646
This is an example of EX-Yukari, um, I mean Marisa.

http://www.mediafire.com/?uoo08967q1c3fhs

>> No.5901713

>>5901668
Why do all the real people get parentheses but none of the Touhous?

>> No.5901728
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>>5901712

>> No.5901740
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5901740

>>5901728
EX-Marisa is more than capable of challenging Yukari~n.

>> No.5901759

>>5901713
Um... Letty?

>> No.5901760
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>>5901740

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>>5901668
>Adolf Hitler... >Stalin (1944 upgrade)

What the fuck is this?

>> No.5901766 [DELETED] 

>>5901760

>> No.5901769
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>>5901760

>> No.5901807
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5901807

oh hai

>> No.5901813
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5901813

>>5901769
Now this is a proper spellcard duel. If SSiB was half as good as this people wouldn't hate it as much.

>> No.5901814

>>5901713
Touhous are more self-explanatory.

>> No.5901827
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>>5901813
Last one due to captcha.

>>5901807
Very accurate.

>> No.5901845 [DELETED] 

Best one I've seen, so far.

>> No.5901866

>>5901668
Best one I've seen, so far.

>> No.5901875

>>5901813
One of the problems with SSiB was that the power of flight was apparently limited, and hell the moon princess weren't even able to fly at all.

>> No.5902090

>>5901807
Maybe a couple of years ago this would be fine....

Needs an update.

>> No.5902126

Half of Eientei is good, half is shit. I'm not sure what to think of them.

>> No.5902534

HURRRRRRRR

>> No.5902596

This thread is moot because Saxton Hale blew up the moon.

(Also, Shikieiki doesn't have power, she has authority. She can condemn any soul to torment, but only if they're dead and only if they deserve it.)

>> No.5902626

>>5902596
Except that in one of those short stories written by ZUN, Yukari says that Yuyuko, Reimu, and herself combined would not be a match against the Yama. So there, as clear as black and white, Shiki is the strongest being in Gensyoko.

>> No.5902649

>>5902626
Goddamn it, ZUN, just when I have stuff figured out.

>> No.5902679
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5902679

>>5902649
>>5902649
>>5902649
HAHAHAAHAHAH

I SENTENCE YOU TO A FIERY DEATH.

I AM THE STRONGEST.

>> No.5902687

>>5902649
you should read all of the official work you can before posting a power level thread.

>> No.5902700

>>5902687
I try, but ZUN's stuff is so impenetrably written it's hard sometimes.

>> No.5902703

>>5901668
So in reality, this is the only real powerlevel chart.

>> No.5902715
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5902715

>>5902679
You are also the cutest, Yama-sama.

>> No.5902726

>>5902626
All that proves is that Yukari once said that. Sorry, but you'll have to try harder to get me to believe your bullshit.

>> No.5902736

>>5902726
ZUN himself fucking wrote it
>your bullshit

you are fucking retarded. Yukarifags go home.

>> No.5902737

>>5902679
Well except for maybe the Dragon and the Japanese Pantheon Gods, but considering they will probably never appear, so yeah, you are pretty much the strongest. That is unless ZUN retcon his canon again, but whatever, we probably will never see you again anyways either.

>> No.5902755
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5902755

>>5902726
>>5902726
>>5902726
DO I HAVE TO PROVE IT TO YOU THAT YOU CANNOT DEFEAT ME?

>> No.5902761

>>5902736
If you can't see the flaw in what you just posted, you're an idiot.

>> No.5902775

>>5902755
Yes. I won't accept anything not witnessed with my own eyes.

>> No.5902801

"Moonpeople" = Eirin.

The Watatsuki sisters are clueless children, the other lunarians are retarded bunnies, both Eirin and Yukari hide their power levels so any speculation about them is baseless.

/autism

>> No.5902805

>>5902775
how do you know what you're seeing is being seen by your eyes?

>> No.5902811

Hong Meilin is a child of the dragon god. You heard it here first.

>> No.5902821

>>5902737
But isn't Shiki one of those gods?

>> No.5902825

>>5902821
Shikieiki isn't a god, she just has a cushy job.

>> No.5902829

>>5902805
Does it matter? I don't have free will either way.

>> No.5902856

>>5902821

"One of the gods that resides in hell and judges the deceased."

>> No.5902860

>>5902856
GODDAMMIT ZUN JUST WHEN I HAVE STUFF FIGURED OUT

>> No.5902908

On Shikieiki:

>However, her teachings are basically for the benefit of the people of Gensokyo, so she wants us to listen to her seriously and obediently.
>This Yama is famous in Gensokyo, and particularly long-lived youkai have been helped by her at least once.
>Nevertheless, youkai feel uncomfortable around Yamas, so whenever a Yama comes to Gensokyo, all youkai go into hiding.

Yukari just doesn't like being lectured.

>> No.5902921
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5902921

>>5902860
>>5902860
>>5902860
GETTING OWNED BY ME AGAIN, DID YA??!!

>> No.5902928

>>5902908
that won't justify the fact that of combined forces not being a match for the Yama.

>> No.5902930
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5902930

>>5902737

>Japanese Pantheon Gods never appearing.

>> No.5902952

>>5902928

They're no match against her lectures. There's also no real reason for them to fight.

>> No.5902960

>>5902928
There's no need to justify against that because that isn't a fact.

>> No.5902961
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5902961

>>5902952
>They're no match against her lectures.

>> No.5903073

>>5902930
"That is totally not groovy"
You now see Kanako as a hippie goddess. Cannot unsee! HAHAHAHA!

>> No.5903149

>>5903073
She's a tech goddess. Hippie tech goddess.

>> No.5903163
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5903163

Mokou > Kaguya

>> No.5903166

>>5903163
Only when she's not wearing her pants.

>> No.5903171

Shiki is the Touhou version of Triangle Man.

>> No.5905094
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5905094

Yukari might not be stronger than Shiki in particular, but there's evidence to suggest she's stronger than the average yama/enma:

Sakuya: So, is law enforcement around here always like this?
Yukari: There's no law in this world. As we can't have a death penalty here, of course.
Sakuya: Oh, what about Enma?
Yukari: If you were stronger than Enma, you could do what you want. This place is... No, this place too, is a world like that.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom:_Sakuya%27s_Extra

1. There's no law in Yukari's realm.
2. Therefore Yukari must be stronger than the Enma.

>> No.5905732

>>5902737

Amaterasu already appeared. And she's the strongest Shinto god.

>> No.5905976
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5905976

No one in gensokyo can kill this.

>> No.5907174

Derp

>> No.5907193

>>5905094
Canonically, nobody ever has any idea what the hell Yukari is talking about, so we might have to take that with a grain of salt.

>> No.5907199
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5907199

No one in Gensokyo can kill this.

>> No.5907206

Shiki can kill fairies, discuss.

>> No.5907212

>>5907199
Holy shit it's adorable.

>> No.5907260

>>5907199

Bitches don't know bout pygmy

>> No.5907305
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5907305

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA NOOBS CAN'T BEAT A YAMA.

>> No.5907309

>>5907199
I'd carry it around and feed it mochi balls

>> No.5907324

>>5907305
Yukari can beat Shikeiki.

Discuss.

>> No.5907331

>>5907324
Anyone can beat anyone

discuss

>> No.5907344

>>5907331
Lunarians can't beat Yukari.

>> No.5907359

>>5907344
Here we go again!

>> No.5907366

>>5907359
Sup, samefag futa hater troll.

>> No.5907380
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5907380

By the word of our lord ZUN, and the powers he has given Yukari, she wins.

>> No.5907407

>>5907380
agreed.

>> No.5907412

I like how this turned into a Shikieki > Everyone else thread later on.

>> No.5907443

Shiki >= Yukari > *

>> No.5907476

>>5907443
>>5907443
HURRRR DERRR

IT IS THE WORD OF OUR LORD THAT SAID THAT YUKARI YUYUKO AND REIMU COULDN'T BEAT THE YAMA.

IT'S MORE LIKE SHIKIEKI >>>>>>>>>>>>>> YUKARI > MOONPEOPLE

>> No.5907505

GODDAMN YUKARISTS AND LUNARISTS, GO BACK TO YORU ROOMS

>> No.5907513

>>5907476
Shiki got beat by Reimu in PoFV.

>> No.5907519

>>5907513
Mystia beat Yuuka and Shikieki

>> No.5907581 [DELETED] 
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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picutre) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yukari > Yuuka > Flandre > Yuugi > Suika >Watatsuki sisters > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mokou = Kaguya > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Iku > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Elly > Nue > EX Keine > Wing Gundam > Mima > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

There. Now it is official

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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picutre) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yukari > Yuuka > Flandre > Yuugi > Suika >Watatsuki sisters > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mima > Mokou = Kaguya > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Iku > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Elly > Nue > EX Keine > Wing Gundam > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

Fix'd. It is now official.

>> No.5907607

>>5907592
Shut up, secondaryhistorian. Mecha wheelchair Roosevelt is fanon bullshit.

>> No.5907615 [SPOILER] 
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OH LOOK POWERLEVELS

ORT > VIVIT > ADO EDAM > TOYOHIME > YORIHIME > FUTAHIME > JOSEPH STALIN > ADOLF HITLER >SHIKIEIKI YAMAXANADU > FRED FLINTSTONE > ARCUEID > RYOUGI SHIKI > SHIKI > RIDER > CASTER > MEREM > WHATEVER > SION > JONES > SABER > TYPE-MOON FAN > STUDIO DEEN > ZUN > FLANDRE SCARLET > RONALD MCDONALD > BURGER KING > ORIN > MY TASTES > YOUR TASTES > BRUNETTE > BLOND > NVIDIA > ATI > INTEL > AMD > HURR > DURR > KOG> GOG> JIMMY CHOO> 4CHAN > 7CHAN> SHIT >CIRNO

>> No.5907644

>>5907607
You obviously haven't read the manga "Dark Crusades of the Western Wonderland".

Roosevelt was was about to die for the second time, and doctors and scientist built the "Mecha Wheelschair Super" designed to both keep him alive and still have him fighting.

>> No.5907662

>>5907607
It was originally fanon, but they later made it official.

>> No.5907679 [DELETED] 

Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picture) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yukari > Yuuka > Flandre > Yuugi > Suika >Watatsuki sisters > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mima > Mokou = Kaguya > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Iku > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Elly > Nue > EX Keine > Wing Gundam > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

Fix'd. No more misspellings.

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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picture) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yukari > Yuuka > Flandre > Yuugi > Suika >Watatsuki sisters > Vegeto (SS4) > Eisenhower > Letty (Full power) > Mima > Mokou = Kaguya > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Iku > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Elly > Nue > EX Keine > Wing Gundam > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

Fix'd. No more misspellings.

>> No.5907706

>>5907683
Everything seems about right.

>> No.5907723

>>5907683
Move Wing Gundam up one, Eisenhower down three.

>> No.5907749 [DELETED] 

>>5907723
I don't see why Mima or Letty would beat Eisenhower.

I also don't see how Wing Gundam could beat EX Keine.

>> No.5907761

>>5907749
Well, that's because you were born blind. I can't really expect you to see much of anything.

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Ex Rumia = Adolf Hitler = Hirohito = Advent Cirno = Erwin Rommel = Otto Skorzeny (with Chen fusion. See picture) = Death Star > Shikieki = Mussolini = Winston Churchill = Roosevelt (Mecha Wheelchair version) = Montgomery = Himmler (Crystal glasses mode) = Reimu > Stalin (1944 upgade) = Tojo = Yamamoto > Yukari > Yuuka > Flandre > Yuugi > Suika >Watatsuki sisters > Vegeto (SS4) > Letty (Full power) > Mima > Mokou = Kaguya > Eisenhower > Marisa > Remilia > Yuyuko > Ran > Suwako =Kanako > a SS soldier > Gogeta (SS4) > Komachi = Tenshi > Iku > Sanae > Eirin > Koishi > Satori > Utosho > Elly > Nue > Wing Gundam EX Keine > Goku = Vegeta > Alice > Sakuya > Patcholi > Orin > Youmu > Lyrica = Merlin = Lunasa > Reisen > Medicine > Keine > Nitori > The Bible > Hong Meiling > "The Scientific Companion" > ZUN > Parsee > Hina > Mystia > Wriggle > Yamame > Starsapphire = Lunachild = Sunnymilk > Black People > Dirt > Poland > Jews > Type Mercury ORT

Fix'd.

>> No.5907793 [DELETED] 

>>5907782
Should I make a Picture verion of this?

>> No.5907797 [DELETED] 

>>5907782
Should I make a Picture version of this?

>> No.5907804

>>5907782
Should I make a picture version of this?

>> No.5907805

>>5907797
Draw them all yourself an put it in the OC thread.

>> No.5907817

>>5907805
I would, but I don't have a tablet.

>> No.5907836

>>5907782
Probably the most accurate powerlevel chart. Someone should definitely make a picture.

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