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Why TM VN music is so fucking horrible?
They used the same fucking music for almost every "sad" scene in F/SN. And let's not even talk about Tsukihime.

>> No.5887429

The Tsukihime I played through didn't even have music.

>> No.5887421

Realta Nua added a lot of tracks and more diversity by that.

>> No.5887430

What the fuck are you even talking about? TM has some of the best music in VNs period.

I smell a troll.

>> No.5887438

>>5887430
You've got to be fucking kidding.

>> No.5887452

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0knwEYRufQ
Fucking masterpiece.

>> No.5887465

>>5887429
When I played Tsukihime, I was listening to Demetori's sinen album

>> No.5887467

I played Tsukihime with this alt soundtrack. It was really awesome, and it was the music I associate with Tsukihime, not the original, because I never played it with the original music.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=8774DE3D41A6AE00

>> No.5887468

Tsukihime music = elevator music

>> No.5887471

>>5887430

Not really

Even they best tracks are pretty mediocre

>> No.5887481

>>5887452
I lol'd hard.

Oh god, Tsukihime's music was so bad. And it sucks because it's long, so you'll hear the same repeating piano notes and shit OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER FUCKING YOUR EARS

>> No.5887488

Show me a VN with good music then

>> No.5887492

>>5887488
Subarashiki Hibi

>> No.5887496

>>5887492 Subarashiki Hibi
Can't we have one visual novel thread without this one getting mentioned?
Fucking flavor of the month.

>> No.5887500

>>5887488
Lost Child
Majikoi

>> No.5887503

I'm playing Tsukihime right now, I'm struggling to not drop it after completing Arcueid's routes. (on Ciel right now fighting Roa)

I just can't stand this shitty music and lack of CG anymore, not even my habit of completing everything out of silly perfectness is enough to bear with it. Akiha's route better be really good (it was the only heroine that made me play it)

>> No.5887510

>>5887488
Umineko
in b4 you say Umineko's is shit too, and the trolling steps up.

>> No.5887517

I liked Tsukihime's soundtrack, just wish it had more than a dozen tracks. F/SN had a few great songs, and while the rest wasn't that good it definitely wasn't "horrible."

>> No.5887518

>>5887488
Symphonic Rain

>> No.5887522

My favorite song in F/SN was the Tsukihime medley.
And I find EMIYA boring.

>> No.5887541

>>5887396
Tsukihime was from when they were a simple doujin circle.
F/SN was their first work as an established company, and they were still small.

Realta nua added roughly twice the number of tracks and by so the music also became more diverse.

>> No.5887558

The Tsukihime music is now permanently burned into your memory. Take the mansion theme for instance: DA DAN DAN DA DA DADADA ♪

>> No.5887559

>>5887541

Argument invalid, when Higurashi was first released R07 was a nobody and it still have a good ost (awesome with Kai)

>> No.5887570

>>5887541
>F/SN was their first work as an established company, and they were still small.
Yeah right.

I remember the jokes on 2ch about the various eroge companies rushing games or failing to release on time.
It was always "Hey we don't have the same budget as Type-Moon".
Type-Moon had a lot of money to make FSN, it even had far more advertising than the usual eroge.
To say TM was small and that's why the soundtrack was mediocre is fucking retarded.

>> No.5887598

>>5887559
>Argument invalid, when Higurashi was first released R07 was a nobody and it still have a good ost (awesome with Kai)
>Argument invalid
So? Ryu07 knew music and knew others who did as well.
At the same time the art was horribly under par.

>> No.5887603

Hey fuck you OP, Tsukihime had the best use of "Yakety Sax" out of any eroge I have ever played.

>> No.5887617

>>5887559
The question arcs don't have a very good soundtrack. Kai's is awesome but that was much later when the series already had a large following.

>> No.5887620

>>5887467

Where can I download this soundtrack? I ended up making my own one for Tsukihime out of silent hill 2 and some castlevania (lament of innocence, curse of darkness) music and I'd like to get another one.

>> No.5887622

>At the same time the art was horribly under par.
Are you suggesting he was 'ham-handed' with his work? :3

>> No.5887631

>>5887518
Fucking hell, I have been looking for this game..

What do?

>> No.5887637

>>5887622
dat fucking pun

>> No.5887642

I really liked the music in both Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya.

>>5887559
Higurashi's music was pretty horrible before Kai.

>> No.5887643
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>>5887622

>> No.5887645

>>5887452
It's horrible.
Feel like me when I'm failing a piece in Symphonic Rain.
I had forgotten how bad the soundtrack of Tsukihime was.

>> No.5887658

Tsukihime's tracks were godly. There were times when I was at the border of insanity because of them, but this just made the scenes much deeper, more emotional. They burned into my mind and I still often listen to them even now.
FSN on the other hand was meh. It had some great tracks, but I really missed the piano. The whole game seemed a little bland to me because of the overuse of the electronic music.

>> No.5887665

What's the name of werk's music-guy who did all the BMW tracks? Everything in that game was pretty solid. T-M should hire him.

>> No.5887682

For those who say the Higurashi question arc BGMs are bad... Digital Network, Gear, Orange-iro no Toki, Dancers1, etc. There were a few bad ones, but the good ones were good.

>> No.5887683
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>>5887665
>werk

>> No.5887703

TM music bashing thread? Great! I'd just like to say that Emiya is terribly, terribly overrated.

>> No.5887706

>>5887682
What's the detective/jazzy sounding song called that played during Himatsubushi-hen whenever Ooishi showed up? That song was awesome.

>> No.5887713

>>5887706
Oh nevermind, found it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2XADNEPG4o&feature=related

>> No.5887737
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>>5887396

Fate's OST kind of grew on me, there's something appealing about its generic sound. I sometimes like to play that one calm song that's usually played during meals when I'm cooking breakfast so it's like I'm really the star of my own VN. Then I realize I have no one to cook for and I'm completely alone.

>> No.5887764

>>5887658
>overuse of the electronic music.
You mean like Emiya and The Golden King?
Or did oyu have trouble with the rest as well?

At least those two are the ones I think of when I think of f/sn and electronic music.
Emiya, was in a way somewhat out of place, possibly cause it was like a Trance track in difference to the others.
Then again I bet they were after the "Build up strength and GO ON FOREVER" quality of Trance, to mirror the whole Emiya thing.

The Golden King also sounded nothing as the others as it's in fact Breakcore or something.
I don't know if they wanted to reflect the curse of all the evils or something.

>> No.5887782

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNOjTDMpeI


Every_fucking_scene

>> No.5887821

>>5887682
I didn't like most of those. There were a few good tracks (I really like Dawn, among others) but the majority of them were forgettable or even annoying, especially the ones that played the most often. The only good song that played more than just rarely was Digital Network.

>>5887764
Maybe he means those tracks that play during some of the battles that really just sound like noise (like Akumu, Toppakou, Samayou Kage, etc.; I guess Golden King would maybe count as one of those too) Those were about the only songs I actually disliked in F/SN.

>> No.5887892

idk if the music from kara no kyokai counts,
but i think some of the tracks are pretty cash

>> No.5887929

>>5887892

Of course, Yuki Kajiura

But it's not a VN, and it's under ufotable

>> No.5888024

>>5887764
I really liked Emiya, but not Ougon no Ou. The former is a very strong and emotional piece, but the latter is just "okay". I don't think it fits Gil well.
>>5887821
Yeah, exactly. I couldn't really take the battles seriously, because they often seemed forced, but playing electronic noise while historical heroes were fighting made them a little funny in the bad way.

>> No.5888036

The only type moon song i hated was when Shirou reminisces about his ideals.

>> No.5888047

>>5888036
The only type moon thing i hated was when Shirou

>> No.5888391

>>5887396
I thought it was awesome. Not the best thing ever, but above average and enjoyable. My best songs: Light and Darkness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeDTTyu-zcw)), Lightening Swordsman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvf76Z00psk)), The Golden King (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvth6SmRQUM)), and that one song that played when Emiya and Rin were in the classroom at the ending during the sunset where Rin decides to go off to london and Emiya follows her as an apprentice (anyone know the name?)

>> No.5888487

>>5888391
If you liked light and darkness, then you're gonna love light and shadow. If you haven't hear it already, that is.

>> No.5888508

>>5888391
Arata no Yoake(New Dawn)

>> No.5888570

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm954259

>> No.5888586

Konoyo Subete no Aku.

Used without permission by Sakura, but truly owned by Kotomine.

>> No.5888604

>>5888508
Thanks

>>5888487
Haven't heard light and Shadow, I'll look into it

>> No.5888615

>>5888586
Kotomine has his own version of 'All Evils in the World".

You know, the strings version.

>> No.5888623

>>5888615
No way, man. That's just the song for when Shirou finally realizes how fucked up Kotomine is.

>> No.5888710

>>5888615
What song?
>>5888487
Is that a remix?

>> No.5890615

Tsukihime has above-average music for a VN, it's just that there are few tracks and most of them get grating after a while.
>>5887467
That's pretty awesome.

>> No.5890625

>>5890615
That's what sucks about a doujin game instead of a game with good budget.

>> No.5890629
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5890629

>people comparing a 2004 game with games released 5-6 years later

>> No.5890644

>>5890629
Clannad had nice music and that's around 2004 if I'm remembering right.

Also, reaction image, not so good.

>> No.5890655

It's not a matter of WHEN Tsukihime was released. It was a doujin game FFS. Of course it will be shittier in production values compared to other games.

>> No.5890660

>>5890655
Tsukihime's resources were well-spent on Arcueid's moe.

>> No.5890671

>>5890629
Many older games have good music. It's not like people only learned how to compose good music in the last few years or something.

>> No.5890698

Opinions, opinions.
Most of you probably played FSN as their first eroge, so it's not like your judgment is objective.
People always tend to diss the "entry level" when they want to put on airs of being gnere-savy.

There's plenty of eroge that uses just that one song for dramatic moments, but of course you wouldn't know that.

>> No.5890708

>>5890698
It's funny how most people in a community can play several different eroge as their first!

People say this about every entry-level eroge.

>> No.5890751

The problem with music in FSN was the quality of the samples used to record it. Most of them are like default general midi samples.

>> No.5890842

>>5887396
Limited ost=! horrible.
Other than that, opinions ahoy.
Decent but not great is mine.

>> No.5891777

>>5890751
If anything that's a problem with the when they cry series.
Now I love lots of their tracks, but those bitrates etc sure ayn't good for your ears even if you don't think anything of it.

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