Elona

[Anonymous No.]

Continued from: http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/5865767
Helpful resources:
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/

Game download:
http://homepage3.nifty.com/rfish/index_e.html for 1.16
http://noaneko.squares.net/dev/ for beta version 1.22 (may contain bugs/unimplemented features)

A bunch of old moongate rooms and a few custom NPCs:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=10PHNZIN

An archive of moongate rooms that holds about the 120 most recent moongate rooms which can be downloaded and then viewed at the show room:
http://hpcgi3.nifty.com/rfish/usercgi/clip.cgi

Also have any of you guys seen weapons with great attributes, but one massively horrible one? I'm wondering if I should get this machine gun or not for its magic damage and +shield skill. But -30 learning? That's just rough. I can give her a Shena's panty for it which is possibly one of the easiest artifacts to get repeatedly and I live next to Palmia. Should I get it?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>Also have any of you guys seen weapons with great attributes, but one massively horrible one?

Yes. It's very much rage-worthy.

>I'm wondering if I should get this machine gun or not for its magic damage and +shield skill. But -30 learning? That's just rough.

Well, it is nice, but that depends entirely on whether you need your learning or not.

>I can give her a Shena's panty for it which is possibly one of the easiest artifacts to get repeatedly and I live next to Palmia. Should I get it?

Get it. You can always give it to a pet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881021
Yeah I've seen gears that are plain retarded. I remember there was this bow that had 2d30+40 or so, ### performance, but it was doomed, random teleport, decrease perception by like 15, and decrease hit rate by 50.

So far, I'm liking this sword. I hope it doesn't start sucking blood soon

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5881096

I still need to find an acceptable living weapon. I found a godawful club that I wouldn't even give to a pet. It was cheap, so I probably should have gotten it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881150
I just picked this up from a level 58 wandering merchant for free. Did I forget to mention I make a living off wandering merchants? Hijacking is my business, and business is good.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, so this is some rougelike RPG? What's so good about it?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5881181

Looks like an excellent bow.

Oh, and you're evil! EVIL!
I won't go evil until I have enough things to manage it. Like enough lost wallets and suitcases saved up to go back to neutral, and a supply of disguise kits.

It's not easy being evil, though there are benefits. In fact, I might kill a wandering merchant if they're selling a nice item for a ridiculous amount of gold.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, it can go off more than once. The search for better gear continues.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5881227
>Wait, so this is some rougelike RPG?

You mean rogue-like, and yes it is.

>What's so good about it?

Um, everything? Ask something more specific, please.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5881242
>Yeah, it can go off more than once. The search for better gear continues.

So can I. To that screenshot. I'm just kidding about that, but holy fuck is that awesome. Try to fill up EVERY tile with the dragons/titans.

[Anonymous No.]

what is this game? i've always wanted to join an active mud, but iron realms and ancient anguish are so goddamn difficult to navigate or get to what i want

[Anonymous No.]

So that upload of moongates and custom npcs, where do I put that, and how do I get those npcs in my party?


Just messing around a bit before I go with a actual character, only thing on my to-do list in-game is that "story" quest which I probably won't do, and that pokemon like side quest which is annoying since all monsters die (or just between dying and not being catchable) before I lower their health. Any tips, and what's the difference in 1.16 and the beta? Heard it was more of a grindfest in the latter.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5881268

This isn't a mud. This is a rogue-like with expanded depth and an open world. This lacks the basic components of a mud. Mainly, the "dungeon" you use is local only and exclusive. Furthermore, the game itself doesn't operate like most muds. It's a rogue-like. If you don't know what that means, google NetHack and play it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881240
I haven't paid tax and is at -100 karma for the past 16 months or so. I can literally run into any town, have all the guards chase after me while I go on with my business (like using the inn for cheap food or wizard for identify) without them making a dent on either me, my waifu or my adopted daughter. I can bash anyone I want, kill anyone I want in town (except the dweller of vanity; ragnarok is still out of my league), eat cats and guards for lawl.

I also hunt adventurers, a third of the adventurers in my game are foe against me, and there's always a few guys in the hospital. I don't really have anything I need to buy from town, as my home have three magic good shopkeeper and one general good shopkeeper to sell pretty much anything I need. It's good to be evil.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881328
but isn't the lower the karma you have the higher the taxes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881365
That only matters if you pay them. Paying them only matters if you want to be a law-abider.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881405
do you still get items in your mailbox if you don't pay them?

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know the answer to that question (yet) but if you're considering it then don't be afraid - you could still easily make a lot of money this way and have access to even better items.

[Anonymous No.]

A quick question, am I better off keeping my level 1 Little Sister from the start of the game or should I abandon her and go get a level 4 one from the slave trader?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881452
Get the level 4 one, and abandon the level 1 one. In fact, get as many level 4 as you can, as long you got space for before it's too late/escort quests (or if you simply decide to do the item delivery quests).

>>5881410
Yes, you still get them in your mail, along with a big fat bill that I'd never pay.

>>5881365
That's not how it works. You pay LESS tax if you have positive karma. Negative karma is the same as having 0 karma, and you simply pay full.

[Anonymous No.]

Almost finished my custom NPC, just need a proper pic

>Roran Claymore, mainly melee (sometimes decapitation)
>Insult, Swarm (does this hits me?), Touch of Fear and Hero

[Anonymous No.]

Hey, should I get this shotgun or keep my pistol /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881621
pistol is way better

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881593
How do you make a custom NPC?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm thinking about starting a new character because I hate how my fairy can't equip anything 1.0s and above

[Anonymous No.]

Thought I may as well add this again. Made a list of the pets I have so far, link has the .npc files and a PNG of attached pic (hence the size).

Sadako = Girl of Dark Water.

Vanity WIthin = 『虚空を這いずっていた者』(Whom dwelt in the vanity)

Twin Belles = twins bell

Yukata/Summer White Wolf and Sadako are 5 levels higher then the regular versions, so they have higher stats.

Included the sprites for Summer and Yukata White Wolf (Sadako has no Yukata version), they are exactly the same stat wise.

Twin Belles and Tadano are the same, both are bells (silver/gold).

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?4s2kbj1k1dzok7v

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881708
No, don't.

Fairies can achieve great equipment through the same means as anyone else: blessed change material scrolls.

There are ultralight materials which can bring large equipment down to fairy-ready weight. Just save your money, buy as many change material scrolls as you can afford (magic shop,) then look for a bottle of water. When you find one, drop it on your god's altar and it will become blessed. Finally, mix it with a stack of scrolls and the entire stack becomes blessed.

With these scrolls you can turn large/valuable gear into other versions that are not only far more powerful but much lighter as well. A fairy can equip a breastplate and claymore that will both have better stats than anything you'll see in shops.

[Anonymous No.]

Yay, my first living weapon! Too bad about the material though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881755

Has anyone ever tried material changing one before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881770
I've done it to my claymore. It's better to wait until it is higher level to make sure it's not a blood sucking you before you use it, since material kits are pretty rare (and expensive).

rc: worship nature

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881735

Thanks for this, I'm not the guy you responded to but I just started roughly 5 hours ago with a Claymore Fairy (as suggested by the forum post). I was off putted by my inability to use my spawn-given claymore until I realized I have the power of the God Hand and no one can touch me.

Any advice you could give to someone completely new? I plan on getting rich via the "Noyel Cargo Drop technique" whatever that is, and hopefully learning firearms for lasers and shotguns.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881770

Kits work, if I recall.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881821

Didn't cargo trading get nerfed into the ground in 1.22, and possibly before that?

[Anonymous No.]

Part 2, Names are the same so no explanation needed, oh yes, I used a JPEG file this time, so that's why the size is smaller.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?2omdo4444y54etm

[Anonymous No.]

im doing a hunting quest when suddenly this asshole appears. ffffffffffffffffffff 168 left to go

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5881755

The material could certainly be worse. It's not all that bad.

>>5881735

Yeah, the material changing is nice. I went with an Elea though for my incarnation just because it means I can equip just one or two heavy items (like a gun or a weapon with full power - everything else is light weight, usually dawn cloth or spirit cloth where possible). Still, I liked being a fairy. At least now I will have a reason to work towards the riding skill.

[FReisen !SV3dGkVKt6 No.]

I haven't really picked this up in a while, any interesting changes over the past six months?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881893
>newb summoned "target" into his world
>girllaughing.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone been having big problems keeping pets alive through elemental attacks? I haven't been able to find any resist equipment aside from the material-based ones... Also, is magic resistance across the board, or specific to non-elemental spells?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881728
>>5881879
Where do you put these, and where/how do you get them?

[Anonymous No.]

Part 3, and so it goes.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?w476q6gipeppy3b

[No.]

>>5881893
at least they aren't spamming wish, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882015
These are all ones in the pack in the OP. You simply put the npc and eum files in the user folder in your elona folder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882041
they werent, i encountered lots of these, along with the green one but they dont seem to grant wishes outside of moon gates.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882036
I had a few yukkuris too, but I decided to take them out of the pack. It included Kimemaru or however you spell Aya's yukkuri's name. It gives ether disease very fast and splits. Very trollish. Want it and the other few yukkuris?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882015
In the "user" folder in the "elona" folder, just the .npc files tho.
It will cause them to appear randomly in areas, dungeons, quests, Slave Trader, using Scroll of Ally.

The game preforms a <user> check then selects one of the files at random, if you want a specific pet, suggest that you remove all other files first.
Removing the files from the user folder stops them from spawning but does not remove the pets you already have, it does however convert them to some generic type NPC apperance with the name "a garbage" until the files are put back in. When the files are back in they will look as they were before, only the name will stay the same which can be changed using the interact option from the dial menu.

Since the game treats all Moongate Summons (that's what these are) as a <user> monster unless they are actually present within the game (figurines and corpses will be listed as <user>). You can capture one with a monster ball, it will be listed as "Monster Ball <user>", then switch out the files to get the specific one you want.

You must restart the game for the changes to take place, even after you remove the files.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882083
Sure upload them, I'll add them to the list I'm making, same goes for anyone else who has a pet not in the OP's link.

Add "pet list" to the post so I can just CTRL+F them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882067
I keep getting errors with them, doesn't happen when I delete them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882100
Here's the four yukkuris I excluded from that pack I made last thread.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=O2IL1QYH

[Anonymous No.]

Lose Karma for waking someone up.
Have sex with a child, nothing happens.
What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>roll Fairy Wizard
>try to do 'PUTITS EVERYWHERE' quest
>killing putits with 1 magic dart
>slime takes 8-10
>not so bad, just back up towards the stairs
>SPELL RUNS OUT OF CHARGES
>WHAT THE FLYING FUCK NOW WHAT DO I DO
Someone explain to me how spells work. Why do they have charges and why can they run out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882136
>Eat a cat, you lose karma.
>Eat a guard, you lose karma.
>Eat Loyter, nothing happens (somewhat expected, however)
>Eat any other people, nothing happens.
>Eat a dog, nothing happens.
This is why I prefer being at -100 karma. So much less bullcrap to deal with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882105
Some of the files in OP's pack causes errors I think, not sure which, that's the reason I'm going through them and making a list. Not checking it twice tho.

>>5882125
Thanks, will add them after this next pack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882152
They just do. Reading a book give you a few stock of that spell, so you have to read a lot of the same book to get a good stack of it. As a mage, you HAVE to join the mage guild to reserve spellbooks (gives you TONS of the same book), or you'll be running out of spells in no time. Mage isn't recommended for a new player or as first character, but they're possibly the most powerful once they got their spells very high level since they can pretty much one shot any boss.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5882136

It's a pretty liberal society, I guess.

>>5882152

Do you know D&D? Well, imagine the charges as the amount of memorized spells you have. When you run out of prepared spell stocks, you can no longer cast that spell. You must find a book and read it to regain spell stocks, but you only gain the stocks for the spell that the book is for. A Magic Dart book will restore Magic Dart stocks.

>>5882155

It's not bullcrap when you don't do random shit. Still, some tweaking on karma would be nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882175
>lose 15 karma for using a scroll of escape after finishing a dungeon
>lose 7 karma for attacking the dungeon boss who happens to be a summoning. lose 3 more karma for killing her
>dont lose karma for attacking a nurse whose only goal is to heal you and your pets
>dont lose karma for killing gwen the innocent

lots of tweaking in my opinion

[Anonymous No.]

Part 4, I have no idea what that luckypetit is supposed to be about.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?e9n93wiabyb737k

[Anonymous No.]

Should I do treasure maps or just sell them to NPCs? Are the rewards any good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882196
i got some good gear from treasure maps, its worth it

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

SCORE BABY!
Got this sucker while performing at a party.
Perfect off-hand while I'm fighting and not playing.
Or use as a shield in a dual-shield setup once I get accepted in the mage's guild, so I can finally play as a mage.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5882205

BAH! I forgot my picture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882196
Usually at least one miracle equipment and few coins/medals, sometimes a godly if you are lucky. I'd use it for the medals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882195
They drop things a regular putit wouldn't drop, but it's not that great really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882211
i saved all my treasure maps before reading them
so i had 12 or so then blessed them all
'r'ead them.. they all came with godly gear i had good items already so useless
and ~3 medels and ~PP

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882195
It might simply have a high luck score, which would potentially make it nigh-invincible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882207
What a coincidence, I got this from performing a bit earlier too. It also has a whole bunch of mind resistance too. Too bad I have absolutely no use for it because my bell can't even carry it.

[Anonymous No.]

Part 4.5, iishii edition~

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?eyerbuweve6tz4m

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882239
what is your performance lvl
mine is 30 with approx +10-15 with items
or does that matter

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5882239

Material kits should work to change it. Make it dawn cloth, griffon scale, or even ether (if you're just going to have a pet be the only one using it) if you have the material kits.

Otherwise, flying scrolls should help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882255
But it's precious.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5882258

I think at least flying scrolls should work no matter what. Get ten or more, bless the whole stack, and then enjoy your friggin' 20 stone golden grand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882245
Mine is 76 with one ## +performer which is a part of my natural armor set. I generally don't bother with changing to performer gear or anything since it's so high now.

>>5882255
You can't change the material of precious artifacts. It just rerolls with the same material if you attempt to use a material kit.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5882265

Right, I forgot about that. But flying scrolls should work anyway, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882264
Flying scrolls are the rarest damn thing for me. I have a magic vender in my home I've got to rank 100, the one in Palmia is at 50 now. In all the time I have repeatedly checked their stocks I have only encountered one flying scroll. The first flying scroll I wasted stupidly. I'm currently saving the one I have until I get another one so I can make a bareable to carry altar.

[Anonymous No.]

>your eardrums become thin

What the fuck? Who comes up with these ridiculous status ailments and mutations?

[Anonymous No.]

Also, my bell's panty already does decent damage.

[Anonymous No.]

Do material kits save after use?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882275
You cant use a scroll on an altar to steal it in the first place and you need 1k strength to steal an altar...

Randomly generated altars in dungeon cant be picked up, they have to be stolen as well.

So if you are saving scrolls of flying to use on altars, it wont work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882292
Well, I think there's sound damage in the game so...

[Anonymous No.]

im getting bored of playing a thief so i decided to try to go magic, but i dont really want to lose my castle and all my pets. Would it be better to start a new character or is it possible to be a good mage just by picking up mage skills?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882305
The altars in the dungeons Erystia has you go through are takeable.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok™ No.]

>>5882302
no
use once, lost forever

[Anonymous No.]

I was told that Fairy Claymores would eventually be capable of soloing dragons. When will this happen?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882319
You can just learn the relevant mage skills, but getting good at it will take a while. If you've found some good +casting equipment then it may actually be easier then starting a pure mage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882327
That's not what I meant if you're implying that they can only be used once. I'm asking if they autosave the game after use.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882319
If you want, you can make a new character, then copy pcc.s1 over to your old save file.

[Anonymous No.]

Part 5, Godpets have arrived? Also to the anon who had the Meiling and Sakuya pets, are those moongate pets? If so could you upload them for me?

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?13w5xx53jj88ugr

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882332
is it possible to pass on a monster ball with a monster in it when incarnate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882331
Anything will eventually start soloing dragons. It's just that the fairy claymore's speed, resistances and evasion skills are the primary reason going for its strength. You have a much easier time with enemies with breath attacks simply because you're effected less. And dragons have breath attacks. I started with a juere pianist simply to get on the free money track mucher. And jeweler too which allows one to make material scrolls and boy are they great when blessed

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882346
Hong Meiling is just a little girl i made look like meiling. she sucked at first since i left her unarmed but now thats shes lv 10, shes a kung fu master, she can take on lots of monsters by herself.

Sakuya Izayoi is just a silver bell that i gave a shuriken called <Illusion World>. Surprisingly fitting

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882365
You should totally have made Meiling out of a dino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882036
Yeesh, Mystia usually gets me into the crossfire, and Mizuho summons a swarm of sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882353
But at what point stat/skillwise would I be able to face them and not become dinner?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882458
Just keep playing the game normally. By the time your fame gets high enough for you to encounter them, you can see then. If you're capable of not being killed by it and able to damage it then you're ready. If it looks like it will kill you before you can kill it, simply run and fight another day. Keep in mind there's more than one type of dragon though and that they get progressively stronger.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm pretty new to this, where do you unpack these to?
Just unpack to the 'User' folder, or what?

[Anonymous No.]

Part 6, nearing the end.

>>5882397
Well I'd assume allot of them have unique quirks and the like, can't really test them one by one atm tho, so feel free to lend a hand. I'll try to make a list as they come.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?7191e72lyfzouu3

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882496
read >>5882085

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882496
Just put the .eum and .npc files into the user folder for the moongate rooms to show up at the showroom and the custom NPCs to show up in your game. That's pretty much it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882506
Oh, thanks.
Didn't see that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882458
The big thing you need to work against dragons are resistances.

If you're careful you can take them on at (relatively) low levels if you have resistance to whatever element they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882502
is there an image for this one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882502
I can't really test them, I'm recently replaying, with all my data deleted, so I can mostly get the low levels first.


Does scroll of ally go with anyone, even those way above your own level?

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok™ No.]

I'm beginning a new adventure.

Which version should I use? 1.16 or 1.22?

[Anonymous No.]

After 36 hours of play invested into my character, I present to you, my storage dungeon.

I throw all kinds of things here, anything that isn't furniture or otherwise useful to wear or carry goes in here.

I'd recommend using your 1st or 2nd Wish on one of these.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882525
Yeah damn failed captcha removed it, ahem. Part 6 image for >>5882502

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?7191e72lyfzouu3

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882527
Not sure bout that, but you can use the monster ball trick to get high level ones early one.

>>5882085

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882554
Well in the beta, stealing from adventurers and performer has been nerfed quite a bit so 1.16 for a while if you want to get decent performer first and choice steals off adventurers. You can always just port your save to 1.22, but you can't go down to 1.16.

The beta has Christmas in Noyel though. It's not that big an event, but there are quite a few shops open at the time. Notable things you can get there are soda which can restore stamina, upstairs and downstairs which you can use to create new floors in your home, and a free sandbag. There's also a souvenir vender too even if they are outrageously expensive. Also new year's gifts, but those are only good if you become really chummy with adventurers.

[Anonymous No.]

So where does Jure's body pillow fall in the bed tier list?

Also do any tier lists exist for cooked items or cooking tools?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882561
heres mine, im a pack rat so i end up keeping everything i "think" is useful

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882580
forgot my pic

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882561
Honestly if you're just using your dungeon for storage then it's not that worth a wish. It's possible to get extra floors for your home now and if it's a castle then that means an extra 400 items per floor and it only costs around 240k for a set of upstairs and downstairs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882579
Jure pillow is pretty crappy frrom what I can tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882561
As for the items themselves...most of the scrolls are things not immediately useful, like vanish curse, enchant armor/weapon, incognito, material-changing and such.

The potions are mostly extras of Speed, Defender, Hero and more powerful healing ones, but I also stash cure corruption, mutation, cure mutation, evolution and some dyes.

I don't save spellbooks, unless they're Harvest. I can't even read them, but someday...instead, I'll save stuff like Books of Rachel, diaries to summon pets, and other miscellany.

All that equipment you see is {Godly}, with the occasional (Miracle) if the mods are good. They're separated by just "stuff/tradebait" (the big sqaure shaped cluster), petgear for whenever I decide to get a good one (the line), and stuff that's absurdly good (the few scattered pieces near the bottom) that I'll probably start using later. My lasergun is alive, and if it doesn't develop well before bloodsucking is added, I'll be forced to switch to the other one. The scythe down there is actually far better than what I'm using now, but my current one deals massive damage to undeads. I have another lasergun over there, that deals massive damage to GODS [#####+], but aside from that, isn't very remarkable.

I also have a bunch of material kits from Larna and the Festival of Jure. Good stuff, too, like Rubynus and Emerald. Think I got a diamond one over there too.

All this wealth and I'm still nowhere near my goal of taking on the chaos forts.. :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882590
I only have a Cozy House, and I've never seen stairs for sale anywhere. I'd upgrade to an Estate if the deed would ever show up, and I'm not particularly fond of castles (don't really like the way they look, and editting them is a pain)

Besides, if I used my house for item-storage, it'd be more than maxxed-out after I furnish it.

The dungeon costs next-to-nothing for upkeep, and holds a ridiculous amount of stuff. Besides wishing for stats or skills, there's not much else I can wish for anyway (I've gotten 4 wishes at this point, dungeon, happy bed, seven league boots, material kit [which turned out to be diamond])

speaking of, I find that Diamond material makes about the best weapons overall. It's fairly light, and it really jacks up both the damage AND the hit bonus. Adamantium is best for PV armor, and either Rubynus or Griffon Scale for DV armor. If you're a fairy, ignore all this and go for...I think Spirit Cloth is the strongest super-light material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882590
castles cost ridiculous amounts upfront and in upkeep costs.

something like 3m or more based on your negotiation, and upkeep is really expensive too, especially if you keep the NPCs. to be fair though, upkeep isn't a big deal if you can afford a castle, but the cost of the deed is huge.

i'd rather spend the money on more awesome scrolls/potions, material kits, or furniture

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882646
3m? i got mine for 1m. and the upkeep isnt expensive. altogether my bill comes out round 40k and my salary is like 20k so basically it pays itself off. but then again i got rank 1 in dungeon and round 30 for the voting and arenas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882610
You don't need a tenth of all that to take the chaos forts, just improves tactics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882633
Staircases are sold at the Jure Festival. They're always sold at the Jure Festival from what I can tell. You never noticed the staircases?

If your home is a castle then there really is no need for a dungeon. The staircases make an extra floor. Which is entirely free of stuff and Castles have the same 400 item limit per floor like dungeons. Also you can get more shopkeepers due to higher servant limit. Since you only want an estate though then I guess you may want a dungeon.

Also who cares about upkeep. Taxes are a drop in the bucket when you've got a money making method. Also castle allows for maximum home rank and in turn better salary items.

[Anonymous No.]

Part 7, yes, PANTIES.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?725pka6aukgbs06

[Anonymous No.]

The first house you buy is the most expensive.

After that, you can abuse return scrolls to rake in ludicrous cash through trade.

Port Kapul fish to Palmia is probably the most convenient.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882670
You can get maximum home rank with an Estate or Cyber House too.

I prefer an estate because it looks better to me aesthetically, and makes more sense from a roleplayer's point of view. Owning a castle implies royalty or some other lordly status of a very high-class person. She's a farmer, not a ruler.

And yeah, I noticed the stairs, but they were too expensive for me at the time I did (literally the first time I went to Noyel near the start of this character's life) I'd forgotten about them since, but if they're always there, I'll have a look into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882665
What good is melee damage/hit-rate if I can't even take a single hit/shot/spell from them? Chances are I'm not going to be able to one-shot any of them unless I grind far harder than I need to.

Besides, taking them on should feel like an epic battle instead of a complete pushover, and being able to dodge them or even absorb most of their damage through ridiculous PV sounds like more fun than killing them in a small handful of turns.

Although, none of my armor skills are increasing...heavy armor won't go up even though my armor-equips alone weigh something like 30s.

Does the type of armor matter, or just the weight class? Heavy Armor skill is stuck at 8.5xx and won't increase, Medium is stuck at 4.9xx, and Light is stuck at 4.1xx.

Do I have to gradually work these up to a certain level before I can wear ridiculously good armor like adamantium?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882700
Actually Estates max out at rank 10 and cyber houses at rank 6. Only castles can get rank 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882721
Hmmm. Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly, then. I'll check later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882718
You just have to be hit for armor to increase I believe. The armor skill that increases is the one you're in the class of. Under 15 for light, 15 to 35 for medium, and over 35 for heavy. Shield raises if you're using a shield. However that gets tremendously harder when you get both evasion skills since greater evasion allows you to dodge criticals and in turn you won't be hit at all if they get good and they will if you try to train an armor skill while having them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882675
just how many packs of pets are you uploading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882727
Huh, that's strange, because with 55 DV and over 300+ PV I -do- get hit, but they don't ever do any damage.

Yet the skills never increase. Do I have to actually take damage for it to count, or should I try reducing my DV and letting a bunch of low-level mobs plink away at my armor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882744
>Huh, that's strange, because with 55 DV and over 300+ PV I -do- get hit, but they don't ever do any damage.
You're in for a surprise when you get to enemies that inflict status effects with their attacks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882737
All the ones in the pack in the OP I'm guessing.

>>5882744
Don't know how it goes up then. I remember it going up when I just surrounded myself with a group of asurasvand my evasion and armor skills leveled like crazy. However they were capable of actually damaging me a bit though so maybe you need to be damaged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882737 what >>5882761 said.

Part 8, why a board of all things?

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?lo8u2ood1ys2j3j

[Anonymous No.]

I have a .npc file but I have no idea how to put it in the game. Its already in the user file. What do?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882771
Missed one I believe. I tried taking out all explanation type NPCs, but it looks like I missed one. Maybe a few others possibly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882784
It will show up in the game like a monster would then if it's in the user folder. You'll find it randomly outdoors, in dungeons, from scrolls of ally, or from the slavemaster.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882784
read >>5882085

>>5882786
Uh..? missed one what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882796
The Board, it's an explanation type. Custom NPCs can have custom dialogue. However since custom NPCs are usually Japanese and we play the game in English, the NPCs weill default to regular text. If you go to moongates in Japanese you'll find that a lot of them have an explanation NPC with a lot to say in the beginning. That Bord is one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882817
Ah, but what did I miss?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882827
Sorry, I meant I missed it when I was going through all the NPCs to take out before uploading the pack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882837
Oh, right my bad, was focused on the copypasta and it didn't click.

Part 9, that infernal bird is EVERYWHERE.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?a4gbelo4g42pe2b

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882859
Too bad pets can't cook though. There's spaghetti in this game, but the Japanese bird won't ever be able to cook it.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anybody have the moongates 1104-1167 and 1276-1334? Those are the only large chunks above 755 that I'm missing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882758
Getting statussed does suck, especially Dim. But for the most part I can tank my way through a lot of them.

I have immunity to confusion, paralysis, and sleep. I may as well also be immune to Silence as I'm not a spellcaster. Poison and Bleed aren't strong enough to kill me by themselves (and either can be healed by invoking a self-heal of some sort, potions, feat, or scroll/rod-based).

There's a few I'm afraid of, Dim is such a monster of a status, but I haven't encountered many monsters that inflict it yet. I know Quicklings and Silved-Eyed Witches can, and also kobolds but those are one-shot from 6 tiles away thanks to a laser gun anyway.

The only things that actually do hurt me quite a bit are spells; I'm lacking some essential resistances, but I'm well-protected against Sound (#####+) and Lightning (#####), with minor protection against Fire, Cold, Nerve and Magic (##). I have some small degree of resist to Dark and Mind, but it's so small there's not even a # for it. I got nothing against poison, nether, and chaos though, so a room full of Nether Hounds will just piss me right the fuck off. Luckily, those I can't resist are somewhat rare.

[Anonymous No.]

That is all of the files, but I am redoing the first part, adding 1 file in and redoing the image to include the variants.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882942
You can cure dim by downing a healing potion. Any healing potion.

[Anonymous No.]

What's a good place to get an Instrument from for a newfag at this game? I can't find one to play that wont get me instantly assraped from practicing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882859
Ho ho holy shit, check out Santa's martial arts score!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883011
The horn is pretty good for starting out. You can find one for free just lying around in the graveyard near Lumiest.

And in case you don't know where that is, just look here:
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080710073809/elona/images/8/89/ElonaWorldMap.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

V2 of Part 1, added a new .npc file (White wolf Guide) and updated the image file. This pretty much covers all the Moongate Pets in OP's post, thanks to whoever collected them all in the first place.

Link: http://www.mediafire.com/?3ba179rdnv86d4a

Other parts are here:

>>5881879
>>5882036
>>5882195
>>5882244
>>5882346
>>5882567
>>5882675
>>5882771
>>5882859

MF Folder: http://www.mediafire.com/myfiles.php?r=azkpj

NOTE: Mizuho summons swarms of sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883168
There are still others that I know of, but don't seem to have the files, there is one that looks like Reiz and is called "loli" I think. If anyone has files/pets not shown here please upload them, I'll update the list once there is enough. Include the words "Pet List" someone in your post so I can find them easily.

How to use the files?

Put them in the "user" folder in the "elona" folder, just the .npc and .eum(if there are any) files tho.
It will cause them to appear randomly in areas, dungeons, quests, Slave Trader, using Scroll of Ally.

The game preforms a <user> check then selects one of the files at random, if you want a specific pet, suggest that you remove all other files first.
Removing the files from the user folder stops them from spawning but does not remove the pets you already have, it does however convert them to some generic type NPC apperance with the name "a garbage" until the files are put back in. When the files are back in they will look as they were before, only the name will stay the same which can be changed using the interact option from the dial menu.

Since the game treats all Moongate Summons (that's what these are) as a <user> monster unless they are actually present within the game (figurines and corpses will be listed as <user>). You can capture one with a monster ball, it will be listed as "Monster Ball <user>", then switch out the files to get the specific one you want.

You must restart the game for the changes to take place, even after you remove the files.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883168
Messed up the link, this is the MF Folder for the Moongate Pets.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=0a7054az9sk90

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5883168
>>5883217

Thanks for taking the time and effort to compile these images and files.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883239
NP, did it for myself as much as anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh hell yes.

Thank you, Minotaur's Nest sidequest.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I do quests (like hunter or birthday) or concentrate on performing for money so that I can do party time quests later on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882727
I'm feeling this now. So what I'm trying to do, is find enemies that can actually hit me through my evasion skills (both of which, evasion is around 18 and greater is around the same, slightly higher), but not do any damage because my armor is so beastly.

It's pretty tough when asuras can barely even touch me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883511
try one of the bubble moongates and let the slimes pummel away at you?

[Anonymous No.]

I was griefing the top-ranked adventurers in my game, and then I see this:
Shortly thereafter...[News]Immediate Hypocrite has realized the limitations and left North Tyris.

They were #2.
#3 is actually quite difficult for me, as they're spamming Nether Arrow all over the fucking place and I have 0 resists against it. :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883543
Chances are good they'd miss a lot, and I'd eventually have to leave to go to sleep/eat food.

[Anonymous No.]

Also I just learned the hard way that taking on a spiral king is a very bad idea by entering a lv.100 Chaotic Fort and dying a couple of times :(

[Anonymous No.]

y_kimeramaru is a royal pain in the ass, do not use her unless your a masochist and love the frustration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883598
Try getting one of the aggressive Moongate Summons to appear? Maybe twins bell? Tho they may just end up slaughtering you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883647
To train the skill, I'd need things to actually be able to hit me to start with, so anything with good DEX would do decently (though, even quickling archers can't consistently hit me).

And then, I have to be able to cut the damage down enough so that they can't kill me. Though, for most regular, non-super-high-end mobs, this isn't a problem, seeing as how my PV value is now 479, translating into around 85% prot + 14d11 damage reduction.

[Anonymous No.]

So this is my problem with the game. How do I make money? I've always wanted to save up and get a Museum to store all my awesome figurines and shit like that but I never can because dying/random rogue bosses/random event money loss takes all my precious golds away. Should I just get a Kitty Bank and go like that? Or is there a way to make money (in 1.22 specifically) easily without performer or something like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5882859
The M109 here has high DEX, level 35, 225% hit for ranged. Likely uses a gun tho, and it's perception is even higher so it'd likely hurt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883744
Hack the game, otherwise start with 1.16 till your stats are high enough then switch over to 1.22.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there anything new in 1.22 that is worth switching from 1.16 for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883744
Start off by doing jobs on the job board. These boards are literally in every city. Stick mostly to Escort and Delivery quests, while avoiding "Beauty and the Beast"...at least until you've proven to yourself that you're capable in combat. Watch out for quests like 'Birthday!' and 'I want it' as you have to supply the item for these yourself.

These quests are essentially mandatory for all characters in the very beginning. They are a source of good money, some platinum, and other items.

Look carefully, though. Don't take a job in Vernis that has you running to Noyel with a deadline of 4 days, it's just not going to happen unless you're ultra-fast (200+ speed) and wearing seven-league boots.

After you've done a couple, you might ask yourself what you do with all these unidentified items? Don't just sell them, you'll make nothing.

You'll want to start by first identifying monster parts, like skin, bones, heart, blood, and such. The reason is, once you identify a single one of each type (skin, bone, heart, blood, etc), the shopkeepers will actually offer you money for all of them and you no longer have to identify them to sell them for cash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883744
Next, you'll want to start identifying Rods, Books, Potions, and Scrolls.

You'd do this simply to figure out what's what, but once you identify a book of magic missile, you'll know another book of magic missile even if its unidentified. It isn't imperative that you learn absolutely everything now, just do it as you come across them.

If you are not a magey-wizardy type, sell all spellbooks. They're worth quite a nice sum. I'd recommend saving Rods and Scrolls though, as they're useful even for non-wizards and you don't really have to train hard to use them (I could use rods of identify/slow/silence/etc even without having magic device). Scrolls can be read by just about everyone anyway.

After you get some stuff identified, buy yourself a rudimentary set of equipment from the shop, unless your starting gear happens to be really good. If you plan to be dodgy and evasive, stay away from heavy materials and focus of light equipment. Glass is a decent material for low-level starting armors (avoid glass weapons, though), as it boosts speed and adds some DV. Keep doing some jobs, and use the platinum coins you receive to start learning skills from trainers.

[Anonymous No.]

If you come across scrolls of oracle, don't make the mistake of reading them.

What they do is read you a text-file that's in your savegame folder "art.log". All this does is tell you which artifacts have been generated in your game, when they were generated, and where they were generated. But they'll sell to shopkeepers for 2000+ gold depending on their B/U/C status, and they make good tradebait to other adventurers.

Once you have a decent set of equipment, and if you're a combat-driven character, try diving into the Puppy Dungeon for a couple of floors and see how you do. You don't have to succeed here yet (it's a quest-related dungeon, and NPC in Vernis gives it to you), but try it out, and if you do okay, clear the place out and then leave the way you came in. Try not to starve to death. Watch out for kobolds and NPCs. Most NPCs aren't initially hostile to you, like "fallen soldier" or "little girl". Kobolds are the first "monster" that wield equipment, and they can shield-bash you, causing the "Dim" status. DIM STATUS FUCKS YOU UP REALLY BADLY, but you can cure it by healing HP any way you can.

You might die a few times, but don't get discouraged. Everyone dies.

Continue doing those quest-board jobs. You might get sick of them, so try out some low-level hunting ones, or Harvest Time jobs. Harvest Time jobs are actually quite good, but I recommend you go into them as unburdened as you can. They're good for training Will and Strength stats, as well as Gardening skill if you have it. Learn Weight Lifting skill in Yowyn as soon as you can.

[Anonymous No.]

As an alternative to all this stuff, you can just wizard-mode the game and have anything you want at little effort. I'd say try this out for a while to get the hang of how to do things and learn where the towns are all at.

Or you can hack with the hex-editing program of your choice, but you would be scum.

[Anonymous No.]

What skill should I buy first with my platinum coins? I'm a Yerles Archer using guns at the moment using as much glass (+speed) gear that I can find while decking my awesome little sister out with anything else that's awesome. I was thinking Sense Quality or something or Weight Lifting. This post has taken me 6 attempts to post due to captcha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883908
Weight Lifting, definitely. For everything after that...Sense Quality, Eye of Mind, Greater Evasion, Negotiation, anything you can increase without really thinking about it.

[Anonymous No.]

Oh man, Elona. I should reinstall this.

Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever tried getting into the crafting much? It always seemed really expensive to me. I was running around for ages just doing quests for platinum coins.

I just wanted to settle into a house with my waifu and make stuff...

[Anonymous No.]

I only get this when using 猫の前女王『フリージア』(Frisia the cat queen ).npc. Why is it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884021

Whoops.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884029
You get a penis?

Well I can't read that so I can't say for sure, did you try removing all the other .npc or .eum files?

[FReisen !SV3dGkVKt6 No.]

>>5883952

Yes, Sense quality can be particularly good, since it'll increase your chances of identifying an item passively without the use of a scroll or magic. Very useful in the long run, as most unidentified equipment you'll find will often wind up being worth less than what you paid to identify it.

[FReisen !SV3dGkVKt6 No.]

>>5883792

Incidentally, I want it! quests usually involve you getting an item from another NPC in town. This can usually be done by either killing the NPC (They'll always drop the required quest item) or by trading them. The trade option is opened up with the target NPC as long as you have the quest active, and half the time it's for cheap things you can get off them just by trading junk like ores or rings.
During the quest, you can ask any guard for a general whereabouts for the target NPC, though this can be a bitch if they're wearing a cursed item and teleporting all over the place. Similarly if the NPC who gave you the quest has a similar problem. Even worse though because the guards don't direct you to where the guy you got XXX's shit for.

These quests can be a good source of equipment if you get a quest to get a guard's item. As they're willing to trade ANYTHING they have on them, not just the quest item they wanted. So you can trade the guard for his sword, armor etc (They can often have things like magic hats or gyphon scale material equipment) and often you can get many of these just with a few shitty engagement rings or oracle scrolls.

A word of warning though. If the NPC wants another NPC's food item, if the food is rotten or cursed you'd better either find a replacement or get the hell out of there before he finishes eating. Cursed/rotten food can often kill many NPCs, (higher leveled NPCs like guards and shopkeepers are more resistant) and you will get a hefty penalty to your karma if they die of food poisoning. Thankfully, if you get out of town before they finish, you can come back in, and they'll finish eating up and probably destroying their guts with no penalty to you.

[Anonymous No.]

Can pet train their will any other way than by gene engineering and food?

[FReisen !SV3dGkVKt6 No.]

>>5883972

Jewelery is a prime source of inferior/change material scrolls. Definately worth picking up. However I haven't much looked into the other crafting possibilities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884342
Why do you need a pet to train their Will?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884383
For more HP, maybe?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884432
Will doesn't affect HP though, Constitution does.

Or maybe both do, but I always note mine going up with CON bonuses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884503
Somebody sure didn't read the wiki yet. Life, Strength, Constitution and Will are the stats that affect your HP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884526
> Life.

...huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5881593
http://www.mediafire.com/?nyp7uammpge8798

Decided to just go with evil little sister
>Level 15 Roran Claymore (Aggressive)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884623
Will add it to the list once there are a few more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884623
And without any equipment she deals nether damage

[FReisen !SV3dGkVKt6 No.]

>>5884570

Life's basically your base HP stat, affecting your total hp the most. Most races have around 100 life. Weaker creatures have less, like fairies only have around 40, and bells only have 1.

It's somewhat difficult to raise too. 5 per level in the aesthetic feat, and rubynus (items give 3 per item) is the only reliable ways to raise it. There is hero cheese and the odd chance something will be enchanted with a life bonus, but unlikely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884623
And without any weapon she deals nether damage
Sending your enemies to hell is always fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884714
Mind damage is more fun. Watching them explode in hearts and leaving suicide notes is priceless. Also, rotten hands are pretty fun to play with (not against). Regardless of enemy, they WILL starve to death in due time.

[Anonymous No.]

I am extremely pleased to know that I'm capable of taking hits from <Utima>, the destroyer of Xeren. They still hurt...quite a bit, ranging from 23~38-ish in terms of damage.

Unbuffed and 481 PV, but I can barely even hit, let alone make a dent in its HP.

[Anonymous No.]

Another special item to cross off the list.

[Anonymous No.]

My laser gun...it just hit level 8...but it developed its blood-sucking (##) attribute.

It does 3 HP damage and adds bleeding status for like 5 turns. :/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885395
The game should have given you an indication that something would happen when the attribute list was brought up.

[Anonymous No.]

Here's something I made in 5 minutes to help creating your custom NPCs
Too lazy to edit the wiki

http://pastebin.com/ygPjS7ta

[Anonymous No.]

Should I replace it with either of these two, or just keep going on and levelling it up further?

Both of the other guns have two pages of mods, for what you can't see, I'll list them here:

{Robber Snowfall}
-It enhances your memory (##)
-It grants resistance to darkness (#)
-It protects you from cursing words (#)

<Silly Reminiscense>
-It negates the effect of poison
-It negates the effect of blindness
-It prevents you from teleporting

So far, I have none of those immunities the Miracle-level gun provides, but I'll also be suffering from Darkness-based attacks, as without the resistance from the other, I'll have only #-level.

Help me decide, /jp/ :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885511

How much hp do you have? Will the bloodsucking kill you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885511
You put Robber Snowfall in the picture twice. We can't see Silly Reminiscense's first page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885531
I have just slightly over 110 hp without a blessed potion of restore body, so no, the bloodsucking itself cannot kill me.

But lately, I've been fighting tough enemies and my HP will routinely fall below 30. I'm also currently at -100 Karma for nuking Palmia, so restoratives are pretty scarce for now.

I also need to get my fame up to access Loyter's quest, since that's about the only thing I haven't done yet, besides the chaos forts, the main plot, and catching a little sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885565
argh, I'm an idiot, sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885603
I'd say Silly is your new combat laser due to its bonuses while Robber is just something you keep on yourself for the cooking and performing utility. Since Silly is just miracle, just reroll its damage with some scrolls. Adamantite if you want most damage possible, rubynus if you want most to hit. Also I think the chaos fort bosses are gods so yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

would it be possible to create a custom npc with this sprite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885578
What are your stats? I'm the guy with ludicrous PV and DV and I can only get past like a couple of yiths if I'm lucky and that's with a panty bell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885762
I believe it must be either 48x48 or 48x96

[Anonymous No.]

If the monster heart adds about 20 to Magic Device, then I barely scraped by with the few pieces of specialized equipment. Almost burned through the third and last rod of domination. Now, if I can get a hold of some naming scrolls I'll turn that living Ragnarok shotgun into a dragon slayer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885807
some quick work in MSPaint later...
I don't have rod of domination, is there another way to recruit it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885759
I prefer Diamond weapons and Adamantium armors.

Adamantium weapons are like ##### power and ## to-hit, and armors of it are purely #####+ PV.

Meanwhile, Diamond weapons are like #### power -and- #### to-hit. I am comfortable with sacrificing a small bit of power for the substantial to-hit bonus. It's a little lighter, too.

>>5885773
See image.

You may have seen me be annoying through EloChat.exe if you play with network setting enabled. Feel free to yell at me for retarded shit I do, like getting pwnt by a spiral king in a hilariously overpowered place for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885925
also, is there a way to edit the stats of the custom NPC? pretty much anything it fights is killing it in one hit at the moment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5884710
How exactly does rubynus affect your total health? I've got a rubynus ring, and all it does is add 3 more points of health... The wiki says it affects the hit points you gain per level, so should I equip as much rubynus as I can before each time I level up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885984
How high is your PV?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883744
I think most of the information in http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Beginner%27s_Guide is still valid. Escort quests are generally the easiest way to make money early on and you should get a rod of teleport at some time as a reward, which you can use to escape from bandits. Museums are not bad to have but they don't make a ton of money in my experience (unless you have high rank cards/figures, but at that point you should have money from other sources). Personally i've had good luck with gardening/harvest time quests, Yowyn always has several and they're relatively easy to do if you have the right skillset. If you don't, you can take the quests and build your skills while losing fame, there shouldn't be any karma loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886087
I've got 59 DV and 481 PV backed by around 45-ish Heavy Armor skill.

It could still be better, but I'm running with some griffon scale seven league boots that I turned into a miracle-level item with Garok's Hammer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886161
Funny, I can manage 500 PV and 169 DV if I solely focus on PV and that's only around 25 stone for me. I can only get the protection die you get if I equip a crossbow and bolt that are so heavy they bring me to 38 equipment weight.

I'm imagining you don't bless and enchant your stuff that much. I have no diamond or adamantium armor, but I can still get better PV then you, along with better DV though I'm equipping two shields, but that's okay with me since I'm a ranged fighter. You can get to +6 on each piece of armor. Every +1(blessed is another +1) is about 2-3 more PV. So that means +7 for a fully enchanted and blessed armor. Assuming the nine armor slots and a shield that's +70 for around 140-210. If you put on another shield in your other hand then that's another possible +7. I imagine you could possibly reach 700 PV this way. However I'm not sure how much better than 500 PV that will be since the protection you gain kind of goes down the higher up you go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5885925
>>5886077
never mind, I can buy it from the slave trader in Derphy and I found out I was spelling the race wrong. I wrote "Troll" but it needed "troll". Now I've just gotta figure out why it keeps splitting and spawning more trolls when it gets attacked...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886244
What did you use as the base template? I assume you just altered another NPC?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886221
What exactly am I doing wrong, then? I haven't gotten around to blessing the new gun, but most of my stuff's been fully enchanted and blessed.

According to the wiki, composite helms have the highest PV, and it's adamantium. (40 pv)
lol <Unknown Shell>, and it's a bad roll. I've seen [3,15] before. (14 pv)
Feathers are a strong "cloak", but I don't know if an armored cloak would be better, either way it's dragonscale. (24 pv)
Adamantium plate mail is beastly and weighs almost as much as your 25s alone. (152 pv)
I use a two-handed weapon, so I lack the PV of shields
The quest rings are the best rings I can think of. (55 PV combined)
Adamantium gauntlets~ (33 PV)
Emerald plate girdle (26 pv)
and my griffon scale seven league boots (4 pv)

Is improvement possible? Yes. Quite a bit of room here, I could go for adamantium everything and end up somewhere around 570-ish PV but adamantium is pretty rare, I'm lucky enough to have what I have already.

It must be the shields you have giving you so much extra PV, since I can't fathom how you'd get the score so high otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886244
see
>>5885481

You probably has 23 or 27 on bitOn

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886434
Thanks man, I've fixed it now. Everything went better than expe... Oh god, what have I done?!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5883168
All of these are like 2mb in size.

Why didn't you just put them all into one upload?

[Anonymous No.]

motherfuck. Don't bother nuking Palmia if you don't want to stuck in negative karma, unless you happen to have a shitload of suitcases and wallets and disguise kits.

I was at -71 karma doing a bunch of Harvest/Delivery quests (don't bother trying to deliver to guards, or take jobs from them, they won't listen), and then I start taking escort quests for a change of pace.

The guards start attacking and killing them, making me lose even more karma.

This sucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886524
How does this make you feel? I haven't paid tax for 15 months.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886367
Oh... so you aren't using a shield. Put one on and notice the difference.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone should make a bird NPC that throws spaghetti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886602
holy shit.

I am not even skilled with shields, it is at 3.000 still since creation.

Over 100 PV boost...with a terrible shield and such a low shield skill...whoa.

[Anonymous No.]

what does blessing equipment do? also where is a good place to find bottles of water?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886671
Yeah. When you have one or more shields equipped you get a percentage bonus based on total PV. Because of that a shield is the single biggest contributer to PV.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886680
Bottles of water are entirely random. You just find them as you go about your business. Blessing a piece of equipment gives it an unnoted +1, less chance to be cursed, and less chance to drop on death.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886498
Because that would have ended up with one HUGE image file, the idea behind breaking it into parts was to allow easy referencing and to prevent confusion. Ie. find a pet you want, it's 1 out of the 6 in that folder.
Also I was posting them as I did them bit by bit.

Sides MF doesn't set D/L limits and if you want to D/L all at once just use the shared folder link and select to download the folder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886680
Blessing items (you can bless any item) improves its effects, and may have other interesting sideeffects.

Blessing weapons makes them slightly more damaging, slightly more accurate, and improves their additional effects slightly. Blessing armors does the same, but for protection.

Blessing food makes those foods more filling, and contribute more of their effect to you (eating putits trains charisma, blessed putit corpse trains it even more)

Blessing potions improves their effects mostly, certain blessed potions have other effects, like potions of slow, which normally slow you down (bad), but a blessed one will actually slow your aging process (good?)

Cursed anything is pretty much the opposite, and typically harmful to you. However, certain cursed things can be used to your benefit. Cursed poisons are more powerful, cursed potions of descent raise your level (if I recall correctly, anyway). Generally, if a potion or scroll is cursed. Cursed equipment cannot be removed by normal means. It must be uncursed or eaten. (even then, eating cursed items is bad for you.)

tl;dr; blessed item = good, cursed item = bad

Finding water is fairly random, however, you can trade 3 small medals for it at Miral & Garok's Workshop south of Noyel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886777
No, that's blessed potions of descent that raise your level. A cursed one makes you go down a level while taking off a bunch of stats.

The only thing one would bother cursing personally would be booze due to the sheer fact that anorexia is the dealiest thing in this game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886695
It's just too bad that my current scythe is so ridiculously awesome. A Sickle falls under the same weapon-type, but I really don't have the patience to hunt down another godly weapon that's as good as the scythe or better, and then I'd have to get another material kit too...fuck that. I'd totally go for a shield now that I know this.

[Anonymous No.]

Do items you put in your shop have to be identified to get a good price? I've got a bunch of rods I want to get rid of but don't want to waste time identifying all of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886804
Ah, I knew blessing them would raise your level, but I've never actually tried cursing them.

From other rogue-like experiences though, it's usually a potion of ascent, and cursing them would lower your level, nothing more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5886777
>a blessed one will actually slow your aging process (good?)

It'll also reduce your age on the spot, and as for the aging process...not sure about it. Would have to figure out how many days it actually cuts off from your age then wait a year between, assuming the effect doesn't wear off by then.

[No.]

Does anyone know the name of the moongate room with the shooting targets? I've been looking for an hour and a half for it.

[Anonymous No.]

Ok, umm, does anyone have any advice for someone just starting to play this game? As in I installed it yesterday.

Is it normal to die so fucking much while I'm trying to clear out the putits for that girl in the first town?

Any beginner advice would be greatly appreciated!

[Anonymous No.]

Quick question on shields:

I have a catgod so I can't use one. I'm planning on having a fairy inherit her stuff, and I managed to get a dawn cloth knight shield under 1.0s.

I look at people's screenshots and see most everybody uses round shields. Considering I have a knight shield a fairy can use, should I stick with it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5887652

1: Bolt spells can clear that map most efficiently.

2: You don't need to attempt the quest early on, in fact I wouldn't even recommend that.

3: Having a ranged weapon and/or a ranged pet can take care of the tougher ones. Coming with rods of magic missile or dart spell charges can also make them easier.

[Anonymous No.]

I've been playing for a couple days, about level 10 now. I've been using a grenade recently and wanted to know how good this new gun I got is in comparison for battles since I tend to die quite a bit want wanted to reduce that.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5887652

>Ok, umm, does anyone have any advice for someone just starting to play this game? As in I installed it yesterday.

Do escort quests to get money. Get a full set of gear, even basic gear, before doing any dungeons or serious fighting. If you're ok with light to medium armor, glass is nice for decent dodge and a speed boost on each item, and it's easy to get. You'll replace your gear as you get better gear. It may take a while.


>Is it normal to die so fucking much while I'm trying to clear out the putits for that girl in the first town?

If you've JUST started, then yes. It's not surprising that you're dying so much if you're attempting that just after starting. Follow the advice above before even attempting it. Hell, do the Puppy's Cave before trying that one.

>I look at people's screenshots and see most everybody uses round shields. Considering I have a knight shield a fairy can use, should I stick with it?

Always go with gear you can use. Going for the BEST is nice, but don't fret overmuch. The most important part of an item is what extra bonuses it may have. If you're doing a fairy, consider jeweler so that you can get change material scrolls without relying on them randomly showing in shops. You can change items that you couldn't use into items that you can use with those, if you get a nice dawn cloth change or other lightweight type. Also, ALWAYS buy a flying scroll if you find one in a shop. A blessed one will reduce the weight of an item by 25%. You can use more than one on a single item, but it only modifies the current weight (meaning you can't use four to get a 0 stone item, but you can use four to make the item weigh less than a third of its original weight).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5887738
Grenades are terrible, stick with anything else

[Anonymous No.]

So I've got a couple of questions I hope someone can answer.

1. Can this be played on a laptop? Do I need an external keyboard to play it or can it be played off the laptop keyboard?
2. Is there even a level limit?

[Anonymous No.]

>1. Can this be played on a laptop?
Sure, if you're comfortable moving with arrow keys. You can hold two at a time to move diagonally.

>2. Is there even a level limit?
This game uses a soft-cap system known here as potential, where the higher you grow the less gain you get over time so eventually you become unable to go any further. This differs between characters, and there are ways of boosting potential to extend your growth.

[Anonymous No.]

When can you do those chaos forts?
What's better, a two-hander, dual wield, or weapon and shield?
Any difference between the grand piano and the horn in the graveyard? Does changing weight affect its performance?
Doing that mission to get the gene machine, any help on catching the weak monsters? They die too quickly, especially since it always says it still needs to be weakened.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

Oh, fuck you, game. Fuck. You.
Yeah, I took a while to actually catch five buggers and turn them in.

[Anonymous No.]

>When can you do those chaos forts?
They each contain an extremely powerful boss monster that you can fight just by walking in.

>What's better, a two-hander, dual wield, or weapon and shield?
They're all fine really, the best one is the one you have awesome gear for. Two-handed is mostly for if your character only has one hand slot (like catgod,) dual wield is good if you can find two different high-damage rare weapons, shields will greatly increase your defense if you take constant damage. The one I'd recommend most is weapon and shield.

>Any difference between the grand piano and the horn in the graveyard? Does changing weight affect its performance?
I don't think so, any instrument is fine. The thing to do with your grand piano is use it as high-value furniture.

>any help on catching the weak monsters?
Use pets to fight them.

[Anonymous No.]

I finally found a use for curse scrolls:

Get throwing to level 20ish, shouldn't be that hard if you buff the potential periodically and spend time fighting with a shuriken.

Then get a massive stack of booze bottles. If cursed, booze can induce huge vomiting which can kill pretty much anything. This can be used to take down things you aren't strong enough to fight normally, since this type of death circumvents any strengths and defenses an enemy might have.

[Anonymous No.]

shena's ass is the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>5887738
Machine guns are awesome, and that one is pretty nice. I don't have too much experience with grenades, but I would suggest making the change.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy shit I actually managed to defeat those thieving bastards instead of having to give up my gold. Today is a great day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5887965
For the gene machine, leave your pets at home and unequip your weapon
Hermit crabs are easy to catch because they have some armor, so 1-2 hits will leave them at low health
And if you have lower level balls, use them and keep the level 5 ones for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888097
Grenades are actually really powerful if you got decent magic (the explosion damage is affected by your magic), but it will destroy your party unless you give them good sound resistance. I can take out a guard with two invokes when I was level 20.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888178
Yeah, do a dedicated caster the grenade can be extremely powerful, especially because it's a targetable AoE.

The sound gets very annoying though. It's the 'sound' element noise, what I did was delete that one and copy a small dull file over it and gave it the old one's name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888178
>>5888215

I'm not sure which weapon would work better for my character, I'm liking the grenade so far but the gun looks really nice, so I wanted to ask. Here's some character stats, I'm using Yerle Claymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888264
Grenade if you're a mage, gun if you're not.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone care to explain what this new symbol is to someone who hasn't touched elona since v1.12?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888398

You can reforge two artifacts into a new one, those attributes will be kept when you do.

Well, you will be able to at least, in the beta it needs something stupid like 999 alchemy to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888426
Yeah, it's a debugger-only action basically - probably because it is currently in testing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888426
That's a really broken feature if you think about it. Thanks for the info anon.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm having a little trouble figuring out which is better DV-wise... Griffon Scale or Spirit Cloth?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5888858

Well, from what I see, it depends on what slot the equipment is for. For straight up PV, I think griffon is stronger, but I prefer to mix it up between the high level cloth and scale to keep light armor rating (I play a wizard).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888901
Well, I meant for DV, since Griffon scale gives less, but boosts the Evasion skill as well.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm seeing that a lot of the custom NPCs from the OP's link only have this white square sprite, does anyone know why?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5888978

Right, but in a lot of cases it seems that griffon will have the same approximate DV but more PV.

If the ONLY thing you ever care about is DV, then the cloth gives more. I'm not sure about the evasion boost, though. Are there any solid numbers out there that tell what boost the evasion skill gives? The wiki says it's a 1% chance dodge per point of DV, but doesn't have data on the evasion skill. Like I said though, I tend to mix them, and use griffon for some items.

[Anonymous No.]

I just got a mysterious jewel of Opatos and I seem to lose 1 strength and con when I use it. Can anyone explain whats happening?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889154
Have you identified it? It's probably cursed.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

That's right, I'm performing in front of <Loyter>, that asshole, and he's ENJOYING it!

I feel proud.

Sorry for the cruddy cropping. I use dual monitors, and it's easier to just crop to show the relevant parts than to try to get the whole damn screen. And I'm not going to post an image with my other monitor's screen showing as well as this one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888986

In some versions of Elona, having too many custom npcs results in some of them turning into white squares.

[Anonymous No.]

What's better for performing- a lute or a horn? Or does it even make a difference?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889580
Whatever's lightest. I don't think type counts, but a lighter instrument will be more convenient if you're going to carry it around at all times.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>5889580
Play the harmonica like a REAL MAN

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5889580

From what I've heard, it doesn't make a difference. It would make sense if instrument quality at least made a difference, and if instrument type made a difference.

I mean, a grand piano and a harp offer more complete performances in many ways than a simple horn might, and a harmonica (while nice in its own way, and a quality sound but a very specific sound) simply doesn't match up to their quality.

And materials DO make a difference.

But that's just how instruments work in real life. In Elona, at least for now, I guess there's no difference. Oh, and that performance I posted about just now where <Loyter> enjoys my work? That was done with a harmonica, albeit a cool harmonica (yes, I'm using a "cool" one simply for the sake of its modifier name).

At any rate, I still try to get high quality instruments with strong modifiers, and change their material to something nice if it's bad or default. It does wonders for your house rank.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889580
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/The_Stradivarius
This apparently is the only instrument that for sure gives a better reward.

Reading the wiki says not much about the instrument types being better than the other.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Furniture
Since instruments fall under furniture I would try to find something of high grade, then reroll it to something very light, like paper or spirit cloth. Just incase if it does help which no one is sure of.

Also,
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Performer
>The value of your instrument may have an effect of your performance, but no test has revealed any differences. The skill required to perform in front of others effectively means that you will be getting all that they can give.

[Anonymous No.]

I recently found an NPC selling 3 scrolls of ally, so I bought them all. However, I already have 4 pets (although they're pretty shitty - a mushroom, a gangster, the little girl you get at the beginning of the game, and a horse (as a pet, not a mount)... all around level 4-8). I don't think I have high enough charisma for more pets, so should I get rid of the ones I have now so that I can try and get bells? And what's better- a gold or silver bell? Or should I shoot for one of each? And how rare is it to get a bell from a scroll of ally?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions, but I'm pretty new to the game and you guys seem to know what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889696
http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Bells
I would get Silver.

If you're new to the game I would highly suggest reading the beginners guide and tips. In other words, read the wiki.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5889696
>However, I already have 4 pets (although they're pretty shitty - a mushroom, a gangster, the little girl you get at the beginning of the game, and a horse (as a pet, not a mount)... all around level 4-8). I don't think I have high enough charisma for more pets, so should I get rid of the ones I have now so that I can try and get bells?

If nothing else, get rid of some just so that you can do escort quests for good money. Ditch the mushroom, the gangster, and the horse if you're not going to use it as a mount. The little girl is a good pet, and while you might go to the slave master to get one at level four instead of the level one you receive at the beginning, I'd say to keep the one you have now just for sentimentality. If the horse is a nice one, consider getting the riding skill if you aren't a fairy, or if you're a race with an especially slow speed. Otherwise, just ditch the horse.

So, now you should have just one pet, your little girl.

>And what's better- a gold or silver bell? Or should I shoot for one of each? And how rare is it to get a bell from a scroll of ally?

The silver bell is technically stronger, but they're both game-breaking in strength. Shoot for a silver if you have the option, but settle for a gold as soon as you can get one. You can always drop the gold later if you get a silver and don't want to use both of them. Or you can use the gold bell as a gene donor for parts.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck. I've done everything right to get a custom npc in game but they have yet to show up. What the fuck is wrong here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5888049
Except curse scrolls only curse things you have equipped not individual items in your inventory.

[Anonymous No.]

Today was a good day. I just got an aurora ring even more valuable then my last one. Earlier I got a flying scroll of a random younger sister summoned by Mizuho. And I also got an artifact seven-leagues from the Strange Scientist when I went to turn in a little sister. And I'm now on Mani on my Godloop. Also my initial options on my living trident are # nether damage, +8 dexterity, and ### massive damage against dragons. I'm going to wait for a name scroll.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a download link to those npc's that give wishes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889848
Actually they're capable of cursing anything in your inventory.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889874
You may as well just play wizard mode if you want infinite wishes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889874
Savescum fountains.

Save when you find a fountain, drink 3 or 4 times or until you get something bad and then quit without saving (you can click the X in the corner to fast quit.)

This can make the game easier in a lot of ways if you want it.

[Lumia No.]

So, I rolled a Fairy Claymore. I get shittons of DV and speed, but I can't get a good weapon that weighs less than 1.0 that I can two-hand. Should I be using my stack of blessed change material scrolls on a claymore? Or should I be using them on a Longsword or Katana?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889984
I believe weapons specifically need to be above 4.0s for two hand.

[Lumia No.]

>>5890012
Ah, so I shouldn't be going two-handed at all then? What kinds of weapons/equipment would work for a fairy character anyway? Should I restart her as a mage/warmage instead of a Claymore?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889984
Change material + flying scrolls worked wonders on mine

[Anonymous No.]

>>5889898
You don't even really need to savescum if you go to the holy fountain in the upper right portion of Noyel, near the church, since it has a much lower chance of getting negative effects.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5889984
>So, I rolled a Fairy Claymore. I get shittons of DV and speed, but I can't get a good weapon that weighs less than 1.0 that I can two-hand. Should I be using my stack of blessed change material scrolls on a claymore? Or should I be using them on a Longsword or Katana?

I would say to go for a sickle if you can. It gives good damage even if you roll a light-weight material on one. Also, that decap.

Or go for a regular diamond or other high quality material katana and use flying scrolls on it (a katana generally depends on damage dice more than damage bonus, while a sickle/scythe tends to have higher damage bonus - a flying scroll lowers the damage bonus, making it fine to use on most katanas, but devastating to use on a sickle/scythe).


Since you can't get two-hand to work as a fairy (due to the fact that two-hand depends on 4 stone weight minimum weapons without a shield equipped), go for a shield to increase your PV even more (for those times that you DO get hit).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890045
Fairies are suited for warmages yes. Here's my recommendations:

-Fight with weapon and shield combo.

-Join the mage guild, reserve books for one attack spell of your choice, healing, and utility spells.

-Save your money up for buying change material scrolls. Get a big stack together, bless the stack, and then use on equipment to get light weight gear.

-Acquire performer / negotiation / investing and train charisma as high as you can. Build up a large party of hard-to-kill pets, and give them gear that will allow them to take a lot of hits.

-Fight primarily with melee to save spells, using magic only to take out difficult enemies.

-For ranged attack, use a shuriken instead of guns/bows. This will be to train throwing so you can toss potions better. But favor melee so you'll gain levels in weapon / armor / evasion / healing skills.

[Anonymous No.]

what version does /jp/ recommend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890105
Some people get horrible crashing on any version past stable. Nobody seems to know how it works yet, just some people get it and some people don't.

Download latest beta, try it without getting attached to your character, see if it crashes. Wander around the world map and go to all the different towns; it apparently crashes when you change maps.

Seems like either it will work or it won't, so find out if it works for you and then decide.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5890097

Forgot to say that with the sickle, use change material to get a light material, and hopefully a decent damage bonus. I think you should get a decent griffon scale that weighs under one stone. A griffon scale sickle weighs .9 stone, with fairly decent damage considering the weight requirement (I think it's the best lightweight material for a weapon possible without flying scrolls if you need to match the one stone limit - ether not being counted - but you can shoot for ether if you can handle that and always have a "slows ether disease" item on).

Hope that helped.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I get a shop or a museum first? I have 1 charisma so I don't think I could get a shopkeeper (damn mutations that remove charisma) so should I just go with the museum?

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5890098
>For ranged attack, use a shuriken instead of guns/bows. This will be to train throwing so you can toss potions better.

Not only that, but a shuriken is a very strong and light weapon. You'll probably have better damage output using a shuriken (you can probably use diamond, etc materials for a higher die roll) than a paper/cloth gun and bullet. The obvious detriment is that you use one less slot.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5890139

You should get a cure mutation potion or two.
If it's ether disease, get a potion of cure corruption.

Oh, fuck you, captcha. I don't think there's a fish character. Is there a fish character? That would be pretty fucking cool. Well, I guess it's a penis fish, because I'm passing the captcha with "penis ferano".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890141
A lategame warmage fairy shouldn't need a ranged weapon at all, so you're free to abandon the utility of those slots and just slap on equipment with good bonuses. Just get thousands of charges of your favorite attack spell from the mage guild and clear out lesser enemies with melee.

>>5890139
Shop before museum. The reason for this is that a shop will steadily work up its revenue generating ability over time, so the longer you have it the better. Museum rank is largely tied to what level dungeons you're running, so there's not much sense in having one while you're still fighting slimes and rabbits as bosses.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5890165

True, but I'm talking about while you're still leveling and getting to that point, which CAN take a while, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890169
I'd say the transition point is when the mage guild quest is complete and the player is able to do performer jobs. Once you can do that you can safely turn your back on ranged attacks, and until that point the player would be using a shuriken to train throwing as a niche utility for potion attacks.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5890202
>I'd say the transition point is when the mage guild quest is complete and the player is able to do performer jobs.

Right, though you can do performer jobs as soon as you grind your skill up to that level, which is wholly dependent on you. The mage guild quest, however, can take a while just trying to get enough of those books.

>Once you can do that you can safely turn your back on ranged attacks, and until that point the player would be using a shuriken to train throwing as a niche utility for potion attacks.

Right, because once you open the mage guild, you don't have to worry so much about spell stocks, since you can always nab more books as long as you've got them on pre-order. Plus you can then go on to train spells against, say, a monster in a sand bag, because then you can afford to waste spells just for the sake of training, where before you could only use whatever you got and had at least a 50% chance of casting in combat, and even then just sometimes.


But yeah, you got to remember that a big part of the game is building up to that point (because it can take a while), but you get freedom once you hit it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890213
As far as I remember, I think you can finish the mage guild quest sticking to low-level dungeons and just farming them as loot. This is also a good time to build up your melee fighting so you can develop your ability to take hits if you're building a mage (and can't risk melee against non-weak enemies.)

Food for thought, at magic missile level 20 my damage base is 4d14.
(for all the new folks reading along, spells have their own levels)

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5890258
>As far as I remember, I think you can finish the mage guild quest sticking to low-level dungeons and just farming them as loot.

Notoriously, Puppy's Cave. Still, it's annoying and you end up having to sleep and eat a lot in the dungeon just to farm it. I just never did the farming Puppy's Cave route because I didn't feel like farming there. So, I do performer and escort quests and other things, and then do Puppy's Cave for the ancient books once I'm decked out (and already did it for the cooler box).

But that's just me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890332

Thanks for reminding me about the cooler box. =x

To think about it in a strategic sense, in the interest of building a mage and starting off with shurikens I'm thinking the way to go is to get to level 10-ish, then start clearing every random dungeon you can find under level 10. This should net some ancient books while also making steady growth in your skills and wealth.

I'd say a mage builder would not even need to worry about magic until level 15-ish, hopefully by that point the character should be done or almost done with the mage quest as well as having decent training in literacy and a good reserve of spells stocked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890153
Only problem with that is that I have -10 charisma as my only bad mutation and about 6 awesome beneficial mutations. So shop, yeah? Do shopkeepers count towards your pet total? Because if so I won't be able to do escort quests anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890384
They do.

Do a few escort/delivery jobs, find a potion of cure mutations in a magic shop. Save scum (save before attempt, quit without saving if you don't like it) until you end up with a mutation removal you can agree with - they take off more than one most of the time I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>wish for seven league boots for faster travel
>buy cargo from Port Kapul and sell it to someone in Noyel
>buy cargo from Noyel and sell to someone in Port Kapul

fuck performing, this is really easy money, as long as you have good negotiation and karma

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>>5890394
Awesome. That brought me up to a grand total of 3 charisma. Perhaps I should take up performing to get it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890522
That's no good. IIRC, you need at least 5 charisma for each extra person or pet in your party.

[Anonymous No.]

What guild should I join? I have a melee-based character, but the other guilds aside from the warrior's guild seem to have good benefits too.

[Xerxes's Sealskin !!TxvOg0il1PS No.]

>>5890585

It's almost universally agreed that the only guild worth joining is the mage guild.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Guild

The only real reason to join the other guilds is for RP purposes. Read the wiki and decide for yourself if the benefits are worth it. Are you seriously NEVER going to cast magic? That's the one question you should ask yourself.

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>>5890585
Thief guild teaches you to pick pockets and disarm traps,
Fighter guild teaches you to do more damage,
Mage guild gives you more spell charges.

Personally, I wouldn't recommend thief. If you pick fighter you'll get a lot of discounts in nice places as well as doing more damage and taking less. If you pick mage you'll have easy access to whatever spells you want so you never have to worry about running out of charges for your favorite attack.

Melee == fighter
Caster == mage

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>>5890585
Joining a guild honestly isn't that needed if you don't focus in magic. And a bit recommended if you want access to all the trainers. If you want the skills they offer, just teleport the guard away, enter the guild, and when the alarm sounds use a disguise kit, or use scroll of incognito, or cast incognito. After that go up to the guild trainer and buy your skill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890606
>If you pick fighter you'll get a lot of discounts in nice places as well as doing more damage and taking less.
What?
I don't remember that at all!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890681
Half off identification, which is an annoying expense early on.

The rest can be circumvented if you use the guard bypass exploits.

[Anonymous No.]

Thread is autosaging now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890732
I'll post the next one, continuing in same fashion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5890690
>as well as doing more damage and taking less.
This. I don't give a damn about the rest. I'm rich enough.

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>>5890853

New thread.