/jp/, is /a/nime dying?

[Anonymous No.]

Yutaka Yamamoto, director of Lucky Star, on the state of the anime industry:
>Nowadays, good animation doesn't good sales, most otakus barely even notice good animation quality, only sakuga fags happy to see animation
>For example, Denno Coil and Birdy: Decode sale fail to live up to sakuga fags's hype, compare to Bakemonogatari and Railgun win the Otaku market.
>Your anime is always going to end up on Youtube. We're reaching the end of being able to sell home video. We're probably going to back to toy-funded business models of past: give anime away, try to sell toys.

Dai Sato, scriptwriter of Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo
>“When I see anime today, I realize that we have no pride left.”
>Sato was upset with the lack of respect for stories in Japan. He pointed out that “Ergo Proxy had DVD box sets around the world, but not in Japan.
>Anime has become a “super establishment system,” where nothing can be changed. And the system is moving towards the model of Akihabara – the importance of characters, images, merchandise.. As Sato sees it: “Manga is the last hold out. If that is lost, there will be no more anime.”
>He feels anime will die out in Japan over the next few decades

Hayao Miyazaki, director of Nausicaä, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away
>"I think Japanese animation is facing a dead end," he said.
>"I think there is a chance that the spread of Japanese animation overseas might only lead to embarrassment."
>And he described younger anime makers as the "copycat generation".

[Anonymous No.]

I'd say no. Bakemonogatari, K-ON!! and the Evangelion Movie (all recent anime) are the top sellers.

[Anonymous No.]

Sounds like nostalgia goggles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846217
They are all shit. EVA was always shit.

Anime should go back to its (violent/grimdark) roots.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846211
>>>/a/
On topic, anime was always the inferior medium, most good anime are adapted from manga/LNs/VNs/etc..

[Anonymous No.]

>Yutaka Yamamoto, director of Lucky Star, on the state of the anime industry:
Sounds like the gravedigger dissing the corpse.

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!WMmFy7x/tgp No.]

Sad but true. More and more companies are closing down, leading to monopolies that appeal to the mainstream with fanservice and repetition. I've talked to people working in the anime industry and there really is a lot of fear right now. Popularity and recognizability of brand is becoming more important than content.

It really saddens me, but my primary interests are manga and visual novels.

[Anonymous No.]

The moe bubble is going to burst in a few years, although it is actually slowly deflating.

There are less anime being produced each year, and most of them are products that focus more on merchandise and fan service. Those artists who draw the bulk of images in an anime get paid less than mcdonald's employees.

Add the VN market to that which is dying under the weight of piracy and overpriced products.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846227 most good anime are adapted from manga/LNs/VNs/etc..
Hahahaha.
Good one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846211
>Yutaka Yamamoto, director of Lucky Star, on the state of the anime industry:
>Lucky Star
Woah, if he had any qualification on speaking about the shitty status of animation he just lost it, like a murderer whining about the raising rate of murders.

>Dai Sato, scriptwriter of Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo
>“When I see anime today, I realize that we have no pride left.”
Yeah, I can't help but feel bad for the guys who came up with great stuff like Galaxy Express 999, Harlock, Hokuto no Ken.
Now it's all fanservice.

>Hayao Miyazaki, director of Nausicaä, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away
Correction, not a "chance", if people were to see what passes throught the japanese anime channel they'd think everybody there is either a pedophile or a sexual deviant.

[Anonymous No.]

I thought Suigin, aka Gorespammer, stopped posting here.

[Anonymous No.]

Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Denno Coil and Birdy: Decode Lucky Star; shit
Hayao Miyazaki: relic

[Anonymous No.]

>Yutaka Yamamoto, director of Lucky Star, on the state of the anime industry
This is like reading
>The Jonas Brothers comment on the state of rock music

I don't even.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846230
Would you prefer a show with actual characters, or one with Copy and Pasted lines and mannerisms?

Like it or not, Lucky star is what anime should be: Something different. I prefer it to weaboo action naruto power levels anime with 500 episodes of filler and 50 episodes of plot, much less horrible community.

[Anonymous No.]

Saten time?

[Anonymous No.]

>Yutaka Yamamoto, director of Lucky Star, on the state of the anime industry

[Anonymous No.]

>Sato was upset with the lack of respect for stories in Japan. He pointed out that “Ergo Proxy had DVD box sets around the world, but not in Japan.

I'd say dissing shit like Ergo Proxy shows a respect for stories. But that's just me.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread:
>BAWWW HURR DURR I HATE MOE ANIME SUCKS BAWWW HURR DURR DERP DERP

[Anonymous No.]

>>>5846243 Lucky star is what anime should be
You'd better be a troll.

And I prefer a good unoriginal anime that a shitty "different" anime.

[Anonymous No.]

Only that Lucky Star in a good anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846243
Shounens are for little kids, stop comparing them with shit like Lucky Star obviously aimed at grown ups.
Compare it to something like Seto no Hanayome or Gurren Lagann, those were entertaining and fun to watch, on the other hand Lucky Star is a test on your mental sanity and endurance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846256
No you're right, Ergo proxy is complete shit.

[Anonymous No.]

How can the director of lucky start complain about anime today when one of the 3 main branches of the anime industry is pretty similar to what he did?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846266
>start
I meant "Star".

[Anonymous No.]

>18 posts omitted
Who gives a shit?

Fuck off to /a/

[Anonymous No.]

At least Lucky Star was not some shitty perverted anime(Other than a few remarks Konata made about Miyuki)

[Anonymous No.]

Try to understand him, what should've he answered ?
"You're right, I'm part of the cancer afflicting nowaday's animation, making money on fetishes and recycling old stereotypes instead of coming up with original ideas." ?

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>5846211
Bla bla random people on the state of PC gameing.

It's gonna fial in the next 4 years

It's shit no one plays PC games nowdays

Meanwhile at valve : We made quadrilions from seling PC games, there more PC gamers then ever,

VGChartz.com estimated 3 to 4 million people in South Korea playing SC2 on day 1 along with 1.8 million sales in the rest of the world. This would give Starcraft 2 the best day 1 sales total of any PC game in history.
So yeah it's like saying the movie indtury will die out because we have PC games and shit.

Anime will remain, just like Video games have and Movies have and just about everything that was doomed to fail at some point.

After the moe boom there will be some other boom... just like Avatar made 3D popular so will some other anime make that sort of anime popular.

Established entertainment platforms don't fail, they become smaller or bigger.

[Anonymous No.]

i dont care. i had fun watching lucky star and im gonna watch season 2 when it comes out

[Anonymous No.]

Nothing is dying, but all multimedia is atrophying in the new era because quite simply, nobody buys anything anymore.

That's why most Hollywood films now are children's films or remakes.
Why anime are mostly 12 episodes now, and not as eager to animate unique and unusual material.
Why every video game that comes out is an FPS, MMMO, or at least has those elements.

In times where the market dries up, you're forced to peddle to the broadest common denominator, that core market of what /jp/ would call "normalfags" who are the only people still coughing up money for stuff that can easily be downloaded.

That said anime really isn't taking it that bad. There's a bit more "cute girls doing cute things" in anime now, to appease the otaku crowd, but that's always been a mainstay of anime anyway, I don't see why you are watching at all if you don't like it. I loved Railgun.

[Anonymous No.]

>/a/ meta thread on /jp/.
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[Anonymous No.]

>>5846211
Typical butthurt expired directors and scriptwriter being sore loser about their bombed anime.

Bakemonogatari being good not a masterpiece mind you and selling well is a definite proof that anime isnt dying.

Seriously if we go back like 5-10years ago?
What were the so called good show?
Cowboy Bebob? Average.
Escaflowne? Average.
Ninja Scroll? Overblown violence and tits show
Akira? See above
Kenshin OVA is probably the only one that can be called a masterpiece.
And the truly great movie that Miyazaki did was Laputa and Kiki. Look at how shit ponyo was last year. It got killed by a disney flick called UP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846282
>Anons having a polite discussion about the animation's state in japan
>Random Tripfag enters in, post some silly shit nobody cares about and totally unrelated to the ungoing discussion
Hello there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846264
Spoiler: Lucky Star is shounen.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

Considering that less and less anime are airing each season now, I'd say yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846298
>Bakemonogatari being good not a masterpiece mind you and selling well is a definite proof that anime isnt dying

mediocre show overhyped by retarded fanbase

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846235
anime in the 80s and 90s was almost all fanservice

either pointless sexy girls or pointless gore

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846282
>After the moe boom there will be some other boom
You really think people will eventually get tired of moe? Yeah, right.

[Anonymous No.]

except that yamamoto guy got kicked out of kyoani after directing three (or so) first episodes of lucky star because they sucked so much. he's more well-known for directing haruhi and kannagi. whoever wrote that doesn't know shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846308
They don't get enough money to make more anime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846312
Those day's fanservice was waaay more tame than today's.
What did we get then ? A pantyshot ? Some closeup on a pair of tits ?
Now we have palapations, moans, nudes covered by lolmist, and more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846307
Lucky Star is Seinen. Comptiq is a Seinen magazine

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846298
I think you mean
>Escaflowne? Huge Noses Everywhere
I love Escaflowne and all, but Christ, those noses were huge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846315
One day we will all wake up and realize that we want our characters to be completely unlikeable. You just wait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846328
At least it didn't suffer from CLAMP's daddylonglegs syndrome.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846326
You get full blown nudity last time.
You can see naked shizuka naked in doraemon and it is normal to see full frontal nude. Although they are not shown in a sexual way.

[Anonymous No.]

>Dai Sato
Hack, Ergo Proxy is the worst DEEP show i've ever seen

They should keep this guy as far from scripts as possibl.

Like that has ever been any different. If it isn't animation, they would copy tv and movies and

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846328
Fukumoto would like a word with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846298
UP beat Ponyo because the world prefers CG now. It's tragic but I think we are the very last generation who will value traditional animation. Children these days are growing up on all CG animations. Nobody is going to stick up for traditional hand-drawn animation and it will die in a few more decades. I'm just glad anime producers still have enough pride to keep CG to a minimum in their works. You'd think what with the state of the industry, that they would have sold out to the cheaper methods the way Disney has.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846338
>>5846338
Further proof that anime was better in the 00s than the yesteryear.
We have AKAGI and KAIJI.
2006 was really a good year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846327
Lucky Star is also in *Shounen* Ace.

[Anonymous No.]

Moe boom is temporally. It's like back in the 70's where it's a Golden Age of Super Robot Anime. Just wait, someday comes a director that will twisted the idea of moe the same way Tomino twisted the idea of Super Robots.

But that's not to say moe is a bad thing. Like me, I stopped watching anime not because of the sudden moe boom. But because i watched this, It feels like i found perfection or close to perfection that i have no willpower left to watch new ones. It's an enlightenment for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846326
You used to have full frontal nudity, shower scenes everywhere, panty shot everywhere, actual details on the breasts and genitals. It was way more extreme than fanservice now.

Most fanservice now is girls touching each other or maybe showing girls in their underwear, you almost never get full nudity and when you do they don't have nipples or a slit.

Also old anime had way more rape and molestation, even in non-hentai

[Anonymous No.]

They didn't even say half the things implied. OP is putting words into their mouths.

This is like the 20th time i've seen it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846350
IIRC, those are cameo strips and appeared in several other mags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846355
>they don't have nipples
Have you seen ladies vs butlers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846350
But the original 4koma was in Comptiq

[Anonymous No.]

About this nudity fan-service discussion you guys are having:

My opinion is that in the past it was more "real" and direct. While today the nude fan-service comes with a lot of retarded shit with it, being stupid jokes, situations or anything like that, and that makes it really bad.

I remember now a scene of the first Extra Stage of Initial D (which is not even something that old) and there is a scene where you see breasts, it's nothing special and it feels so normal. But today you have all that "yaaa~~ pervert" shit and all and THAT is what makes the specified anime looks like "lol fan-service bullshit".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846326
One must really have to ask why do they not use all that budget to create a porno series like back then?

Doukyuusei 2 was rather nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846374
You can blame tenchi muyo and love hina for all these shit.
But overall if you take off your nostalgia google we have it way better compare to the 90s.

[Anonymous No.]

The fuck they are talking about? We've had KnK, Gundam Unicorn is being adapted, Eva 2.0, Casshern, Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei had 3 fucking seasons, and that's just what I can recall off the top of my head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846381
>3 fucking seasons
Actually I wondered why anime never finish anymore the last complete anime was Inuyasha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846381
I don't think those are good examples of new "original" ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846381
>Gundam Unicorn
Well, of course a return to the glorious UC master race will seem amazing after close to 10 years of AU shit like Seed and 00.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846381
SZS had 3 season + ovas, but it's not a "new" show.

[Anonymous No.]

theyre basically old newspaper/magazine editors saying the internet is shit because you don't get to hold actual paper and no love/research/magic sauce was put into making articles

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846374
>yaaa~~ pervert
This really needs to die out.

[Anonymous No.]

>Your anime is always going to end up on Youtube
lolstreaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846381
So you name off five counterexamples in the past decade, and think that disqualifies the whole argument? Proof by counterexample doesn't work bro.

Also if you look there you'll see that KnK, Eva and Gundam aren't original in the slightest, they are made solely because the producers know they will ride off the name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846392
Being new and original doesn't make you good. Like it or not, all my examples are high quality anime, which had careful production.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846402
which is true

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846422
Look at >>5846338

Or are we talking about ORIGINAL ANIME ONRY and no adaptation?
Kowarekake no Orgel?
Hardly any non adaptation nowadays.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>5846301
It's pretty related I was comparing the PC gaming industry with the anime industry. Since certain people believe that both are dying out. Yet they continue to thrive and sell millions of copies.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>5846312
Reminds me of stuff like Najica, Aika and similar ecchi stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

He's right for the most part. We get awesome shit sometimes like High School of the Dead,Break Blade/Broken Blade and stuff but there will most likely never be another Cowboy Bebop,Samurai Champloo,Big O etc etc


I remember a time when we got maybe 1-3 moe/slice of life shoes a season and they were of high quality. You could actually like the characters and develop feelings of moe for them.

Nowadays you have stuff like K-ON flooding the market which I refer to as "Mass Produced Moe" where they just take all the cliches and shit that's known to be successful and slap it into one show.

Want proof of this? Go watch a classic like Azumanga Daioh then watch an episode of K-ON. You'll understand exactly what I'm talking about.

I know some people aren't gonna like this comparison but whatever. The anime industry right now is a lot like Hip Hop. It's dying due to being flooded with garbage made by people who just want to make a quick buck and do it by copying off other people instead of trying to find their own style.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846450
>High School of the Dead,Break Blade/Broken Blade and stuff but there will most likely never be another Cowboy Bebop,Samurai Champloo,Big O etc etc
None of these were good.
You are part of the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846450

Oh and for the record. I enjoy moe/slice of life anime quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou will save the anime industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846440
I think we should define the criteria better then.

I didn't like Akagi, Kaiji, Gundam or SZS. I don't think any of them are pinnacle examples of objective quality, if there even is such a thing.

All I was saying is that those 5 examples given were further proof that the industry is indeed resorting to everything either being otaku-pandering material or a rehash of something they already know could be marketed by name alone. Because the studios have to play it safe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846450
>Cowboy Bebop
I'm actually tired of hearing this every thread it was boring and uninteresting in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846450
>We get awesome shit sometimes like High School of the Dead
Bouncing boobs, panties, boob-grabbing zombies, sudden gore, etc. All of these are overused and plain.


.... Seriously.

[Anonymous of Croatia !na1byG1GU. No.]

>>5846454
No. Just because he doesn't like your animus doesn't mean hes part of any problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846454
>High school of the dead
>Break Blade
>Samurai Champloo
>Cowboy Bebop
>Big O
>Not Good

[Anonymous No.]

>anime

There's a board for talking about your shit cartoons, normalfags. Get back there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846465
You definitely have shit taste if you think Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Denno Coil and Birdy: Decode, Nausicaä, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away are better than the show listed.
Take off your nostalgia google already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846450
He's what we'd call a hipster regurgitating an opinion based completely on people blinded by nostalgia and force-fed by the loud minority who considers themselves 'too good' to enjoy recent things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846450
You've never even watched K-On

Within its genre it stands out as very high quality and original.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846465
Is there any anime you like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846480
I don't like any of those either so I guess I'm safe.

Except for Nausicaa, how can anyone say it's not a classic.

[Anonymous No.]

Who the fuck cares. Anime is shit anyway.

[SekaiNoAi !MOEMOEqtAA No.]

what a shitty thread you have there

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846466

Guy who posted that here. Cowboy Bebop is overrated and I'm kind of tired of hearing about it too but you cannot deny that it was a revolutionary series worthy of the praise.

>>5846468

We have seen that all before but the characters in the show are interesting and the way they develop throughout the story makes for a good anime/manga.

>>5846480

Haha oh wow

[Anonymous No.]

Thread reported.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846491
I prefer Laputa and Kiki.
Nausicaa is just meh when I watched it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846491
Generic post-apocalyptic shit.

[Anonymous No.]

There's still more than enough great anime coming out. Bakemonogatari is one of the best, and most important shows of recent years, it shows that you don't have to sacrifice good writing or direction even if you incorporate enough otaku-pandering elements to sell well.
Yutaka Yamamoto implying Bakemonogatari is a bad show is the most pathetic thing I've read in quite some time.
Though Denno Coil selling bad is sad, however predictable. That was a great show, but not really one with good rewatch value.
Also, >>>/a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846496
>We have seen that all before but the characters in the show are interesting and the way they develop throughout the story makes for a good anime/manga.
Are you kidding? It's a bad Eli Roth movie in anime form.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846468
This.

It is pretty ironic for someone complaining about the state of the anime industry and then liking HOTD and Break Blade.
Break Blade is like a copycat of Code Gayass. Even the mechs look a like and with tons of ASS shot of the main heroine.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846465
The problem is the fact that these days there's no surprise in watching most animes.
When we watched GL we couldn't even imagine we would've gone from some kind of old school mecha parody to fighting aliens in space.
When we watched Kaiji we never knew what was going to happen in the next episode because the mc was a tool and one moment he seemed brilliant, another one he'd seem a mongoloid.
I'm tired of watching the first episode of an anime and guess with a 90% accuracy how most events and characters relationships will evolve.
ESPECIALLY IN THOSE FUCKING HAREM SERIES AND VNS' ADAPTATIONS

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846505
>Bakemonogatari
>SO DEEP XD

Out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846482

I watched the entire first season.

Horrible writing.
Bland art style.
Generic art direction.

Do yourself a favor. Leave K-ON alone and go watch Hidamari Sketch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846503
Post-apocalyptic is such an underrepresented setting that I don't think you can use "generic" and "post-apocalyptic" in the same sentence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846505
>Bakemonogatari
>Good

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846522
I raised you this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846509

I acknowledge your opinion but respectfully disagree.

>>5846518
>Break Blade is like a copycat of Code Gayass.

I don't think you can say that when the series is only on the first episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846532
>Post-apocalyptic is such an underrepresented setting

No.

[Anonymous No.]

They should just stop arguing and make another Nadesico. I refuse to consider the movie as canon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846532
>Post-apocalyptic is such an underrepresented setting
The whole guy beating up rapists in a post-apocalyptic world was a big genre at one time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846535

That's a good show too.

Highly recommended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846463
It's true. Someone email ZUN about this, I can't moon rune. We must do all we can to save this dying industry!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846522
>Horrible writing.
lolno.
And while art direction is not original, it's certainly very well done.
Hidamari Sketch is still more enjoyable show, though
>>5846521
Yeah, you're so edgy because you don't like popular shows, good for you.

[HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus No.]

I believe in this context, a picture expresses more than words.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846522
>Horrible Writing
For an episodic based show, the writing was not "horrible", simply because it's non-linear. It's also half as long as Hidamari Sketch, as well as revolving around a school club, forcing nearly all the episodes to have somewhat to do in a school environment. Something Hidamari got released on with the Apartments. K-ON! also makes, some, subtle character development, and I'm not talking about the last few episodes of sudden melodrama. That was the only example of bad writing I can really think of from the top of my head.
>Bland art style
Sorry KyoAni doesn't like to splash random wallpaper paint and cut to super-deformed every scene and call it day.
>Generic art direction
I really have no idea what you could possibly mean by that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846522
>Generic art direction
You're brainwashed to hate K-On because it's the popular thing to do. Criticize what you will but you can't say it has generic art, anyone with an open mind can see that it doesn't.

This is generic anime art. K-On has a fairly unique style that is easily recognizable, that's why artists have drawn K-On -styled versions of other characters, and you can instantly tell it's supposed to be a crossover with K-On

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846532
>Post-apocalyptic is such an underrepresented setting
Where have you been this past two centuries?

[Anonymous No.]

Suigin = gorespammer

[Anonymous No.]

I think Hetalia is fun...

[Anonymous No.]

>Yutaka Yamamoto
Oh yeah, the guy who made people think Lucky Star is a food anime and got kicked out after the first 4 eps sucked so bad.
You have no fucking say in anything.

>Dai Sato
No one cares about the pretentious shows you worked on, and you didn't do that much writing for Champloo or Bebop.

>Hayao Miyazaki
Shrivel up and die already. You hate everything forever. You are like fucking John Kricfalusi.

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Anime isn't dying, but shit is dying off hopefully. Just go back to making superviolent random OVAs and awesome American co-produced cartoons, Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846535
I raise you this

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846553

I think the writing for K-ON is atrocious. If you enjoy the art style go watch Sora No Woto. It's a far superior series and I'm glad we agree that Hidamari Sketch is better than K-ON.

[Tripfag McGee !NHqdxYQAec No.]

>>5846340
>Implying Ponyo was not the worst Miyazaki film in decades
>Implying Up didn't rightfully deserve to slap the shit out of Ponyo in sales and in every other aspect from characters, scenery, story-telling, pacing, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

K-ON has a very original and defining art direciton. No anime before it looked quite like it, only anime that copied it afterward. You can tell something is K-ON art easily. You cannot for example tell with most JCStaff shows. The "death" of the anime industry in the eyes of normalfriend directors is also a good thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846522
>>5846549
Since you are mentioning SHAFT why not recommend Pani Poni Dash! as well? It's a fun show with "moe" characteristics that you will laugh even if you don't get the punch line or hidden references, etc on it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846541
>>5846561
Please name for me ten anime with a post-apocalyptic setting without going to google

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846570
>UP

Reported. It is terrible by default because it is disgustingly western.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846559
Same like how majority of the f/a/ggots got brainwashed to hate Bakemonogatari as well.
It is pretty funny how a single person like gorespammer can do this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846571
>No anime before it looked quite like it,
KANNAGI YOU MORON

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846559

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846553
>you don't like popular shows

Or I don't like pretentious shit that postures as being "artistic" and "intellectual" (so as to inflate the ego of the mouthbreathers who watch it) when in reality, it uses all of the same tired archetypes and doesn't do anything original.

[Anonymous No.]

Well, if /a/nime is indeed dying, at least I'll always have /jp/nimation to fall back on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846566
This show. I couldn't remember what mitsudomoe was ripping off of, but yeah.

It's ripping off of that. Compare their hairstyles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846567
You do realize Sora no Woto is a drama with comedic elements, and is a completely different genre than K-On!? Save a few of the filler episodes.

[Anonymous No.]

The Girls in K-on Have very original personalities you have to at least admit that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846575
Get the fuck out, dumb weeaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846566
Game over anon.
You wont be able to top this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846584
Mitsudomoe is very different to Minami-ke. The only similarity is that both are about three sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846591
You get out.

I bet you're downloading all these Amerifaggot movies and talking up sluts on facebook as we speak.

[Anonymous No.]

Needs more SZS season 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846597
Fuck off back to /a/.
You must be new here.
In /jp/ we criticize shit if they are shit. In this case UP is clearly superior to Ponyo in every way. We dont give a shit about the nationality or where it come from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846590
Personally, I like K-On! the best when it's just the characters interacting, rather than the gag scenes.
Like...off the top of my head, there was scene where Mio slipped up and said "Mama" instead of "Mom", that was good.

[Anonymous No.]

Personally I hate the K-ON art style. It looks terrible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846584
What? They are nothing alike.

>>5846567
I found K-ON and Hidamari Sketch to be equal, honestly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846597
Go away

>>5846605
>In this case UP is clearly superior to Ponyo in every way
You go away too

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangk.ok No.]

hokuto no ken OVA = best animu

you can't prove me wrong as it is fact.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846592
That's kind of unfair, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846592

[Anonymous No.]

K-ON is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846609

I don't know why but I just really don't like K-ON. The only character in the show I like was Mugi.

It felt like I was being forced to like all the other characters.

Especially Azusa.

[Anonymous No.]

Ah god, that thread into such a clusterfuck I don't even know who to reply to.
K-ON! is a good show. Hidamari Sketch is just as good in a different way but more enjoyable for me.
Bakemonogatari is a great show. Not because it's deep or anything(although it is artistic), but because it has great writing, great direction, and great art style. And it does all the things that were done before in a great way.
Anime isn't dying, it's getting better.
Don't give into peer pressure so much folks.
Take it easy, I'm out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846636
That's alright, Azusa is pretty much universally recognized as a fifth wheel. Practically nobody likes her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846636
Mugi gets the least attention out of all the girls and i don't think we have gotten an episode all about her yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>K-On is a good show
/jp/ is officially dead. No different from /a/ now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846574
Hokuto no Ken
Nausicaä
Now and Then, Here and There
Casshern
Sora no Woto
Blue Submarine nº6

Yes, I can't remember ten but that doesn't change the fact that this typeofsetting was used and reused in dozens of VNs, mangas, animes, films and books.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846574
-Scryed
-HnK
-Evangelion
-Cowboy Bebop (Earth was post-apocalyptic)
-That Yukikikaze spinoff with the airplane girls
-YKK
-Naucissa
-Blue Gender
-Vampire Hunter D
-Casshern

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846644
The basic set up of K-on
Mio=Azusa>Yui>Ritsu>>>>>>>>Tsumugi

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846643
Damn right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846657
>>5846652
Violence Jack
Desert Punk

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846651
Guess you should go away then.
/a/ is the board that would be shouting "HURR K-ON SUCKS DERP MOESHIT IZ FUR FAGETS"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846644
The constant Azunyan threads in may disagree with you.
She seems to be currently the most liked of the K-ON cast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846644

K-ON was bad but it got worst when they introduced Azusa. She does absolutely nothing but pander to moe obsessed otaku. It's like she was made in a factory and programmed to be cute. K-ON isn't even geared towards otaku. It was made for little girls.

I love Mugi but I cannot watch that garbage again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846657
>airplane girls
>post-apocalyptic setting
Uh...Sky Girls?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh, for fuck's sake, fuck off with your shit to >>>/a/.

[Anonymous No.]

Darker Than Black, Akira, Neon Genesis Evangelion / Rebuild of Evangelion, Desert Punk, Blue Gender, A Wind Named Amnesia, Stellvia of the Universe, Origins Spirits of the Past, Trinity Blood, Wolf's Rain, Zaion: I Wish You Were Here, Viper's Creed, Gunparade March, Scrapped Princess, Casshern Sins, Engage Planet Kiss Dum, Blue Submarine No. 6, Agent Aika, Genesis Survivor Gaiarth, Zegapain, Cowboy Bebop, Pale Cocoon, Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, Utawarerumono, Gilgamesh, Suteki Tantei Labyrinth, Fist of the North Star, Noein (in parts), The Third: The Girl with the Blue Eye, Apocalypse Zero, Chrome Shelled Regios, Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou, Grey Digital Target, Innocent Venus, Kurogane Communication, Cybuster, Ladius, Violence Jack, Vampire Hunter D, Tide-Line Blue, Mushrambo, Future Boy Conan, Sky Girls, Rhea Gall Force, Needless, Wonderful Days, E's Otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846657
>>5846652
Also, Sky Girls and Strike Witches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846657
>>5846652
Desert Punk
Akira
Ergo Proxy
Scrapped Princess
Trinity Blood

[Anonymous No.]

K-ON is full of terrible writing. I watched the entire first season of K-ON. It has no plot whatsoever. They make a goal in the beginning of the series. They wanna get a record deal and perform at some big venue or some shit. Guess what? They don't work towards this goal and guess what happens at the end of the series? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING. It ends with them drinking tea and eating fucking cake. I don't care if it's moe shit,slice of life,reality TV or whatever. EVERY story ends with something being accomplished.

And you know what pisses me off about K-ON? They had the fucking gall to make a second season and do the same bullshit all over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846674
the only good thing about darker than black is season 1. the rest is shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846665
Some of the best anime around was made for little girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>>>5846659
Wy the fuck are Mio and Azusa so high?Mio is a big ass cry baby and Azusa is boring forced moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846227
>>5846275
>>5846295
>>5846505
>>5846651
>>5846671
SAMEFAG FUTA HATER TROLL DETECTED

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846665
She serves as a second straight-man after Mio, and a more serious view on the band angle, basically, she tries to push the girls back into the music direction, but is usually ignored or just forced into cutesy stuff by the older girls.

[Anonymous No.]

The only thing keeping me interested in anime is the moeshit. Why does the Lucky Star director believe everyone wants youtube quality videos...Release them on bluray faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846665

K-ON! is a seinen manga, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846661
>>5846657
>>5846652
Ergo Proxy
That anime with the silver hair girl kicking the fridge
Giniro
Rahxephon

There is probably more

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846683
>>5846679
>>5846652
>>5846657
Oh yeah, even Gurren Lagann fits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846684

>And you know what pisses me off about K-ON? They had the fucking gall to make a second season and do the same bullshit all over again.

How dare KyoAni adapt the rest of the manga material for the 11th best ever selling anime!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846669
No, this. Shit anime.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4774

It was a spin off of Homolust Fairy Yukikaze about the airplanes as girls trying to appease otaku in a land of dying dreams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>>5846684
And it took them 3 years to make the second season of Haruhi and look how that turned out....

[Anonymous No.]

http://2dcomplex.com/wordpress/?p=1020

A good read from CurryButt's blog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846684
Is this your first high school anime or something?
It ends when they FINISH HIGH SCHOOL just like Azumanga, Manabi and other similar shows of its ilk.

[nub !!LyelpkA5suF No.]

Yeah, and print manga died after Dragon Ball ended.

They're just whining because they can't do anything about it. An unexpected savior will come along eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846717

I own this on DVD actually. I watched it once and it was cute. I never touched it again.

>>5846693
>basically, she tries to push the girls back into the music direction, but is usually ignored or just forced into cutesy stuff by the older girls.

And that's the problem. She exists for exactly that reason. Her only purpose is to do random cute shit and wear cat ears.

I wish I could take Tsumugi out of K-ON and put her in a better show like Hidamari Sketch or something. She doesn't deserve to be associated with this second rate garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846505
>Though Denno Coil selling bad is sad, however predictable.
Told.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846726
CurryButt has a blog?!
Why did I not know about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846726
>currybutt blog
>good

hahaha oh wow.png, get the fuck out of here curry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846750
>wish I could take Tsumugi out of K-ON
We must share the same thoughts because i agree with everything you post.

[Anonymous No.]

You know who K-On appeals to? Faggots who cannot stand the concepts of drama or action. They watch slice of life SHIT like k-on because they're afraid to actually get attached to something, and watch as that something encounters problems. They can't stand the thought that their precious character might suffer, so they delude themselves with these shitty completely 1 dimensional characters who will never do anything aside from eat some fucking cake, go to sleep, and look cute. I could draw parallels to other slice of life shit like Yotsuba. I could, be it not for the fact that Yotsuba displays genuine character interaction and conflicts. You laugh at the cuteness of Yotsuba from an adult's point of view, you laugh at Yotsuba because she's a child, a child who was found in the rubble of some shithole and doesn't even know it. You laugh because you see the simple genuine happiness everyday life can bring a child.

K-on doesn't have anything remotely interesting as that, it caters to pathetic people who are afraid of interaction and disappointment, the same kind of people who lock themselves in their houses and blindly choose to ignore the reality in front of them, the fucking otaku scum.

Slice of like gets its humor from the way characters interact with their peers and their problems on a day to day basis. Calling K-on, a series which does not even as much as pretend to address this issue, is a slap to the fucking face to the genre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846767

Great minds think alike.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846505
Denno Coil is not that good
Please explain to me what makes it such a brilliant anime, besides it having lolis. It is applauded just on the basis of being sci-fi and dialog-driven, but there wasn't really that much substance there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846776
i love you

[Anonymous No.]

My basic opinion of slice of life is thus:

Why would I watch anime, when I could be watching the fresh prince of bel air instead?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846776
You should join the military if you're not in it already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846614
>In this case UP is clearly superior to Ponyo in every way

But it IS better than Ponyo, which was weighed down by dull characters and dry story-telling, and don't get me started with the way water moves in the film. It's probably Miyazaki's worst film in the past twenty years.

Meanwhile, Up has the best story-telling out of any Pixar film any made. I will cite many Pixar films as great, but Up has earned the privilege of being called the first masterpiece of American animation in the 21st century.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846781
Agreed.
It bombed because the first 10eps of Dennou coil was shit.
If the start of the dennou coil is as good as the 2nd half of it, it will definitely sell better.
How can you sell your show if all your potential buyers got turned off by the horrible start?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846776
>the same kind of people who lock themselves in their houses and blindly choose to ignore the reality in front of them, the fucking otaku scum.
get out of /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846505
>Bakemonogatari is one of the best, and most important shows of recent years

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846776
>Opinion and Generalizing

[nub !!LyelpkA5suF No.]

>>5846799

>Up has earned the privilege of being called the first masterpiece of American animation in the 21st century

WALL-E would like a word with you in the dark alley out back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846799
American animation in the 21st century is shit

How can you say UP had good storytelling

The story was dumb and there wasn't even really a villian

[Anonymous No.]

Mickey Mouse and Ed,Edd,Eddy are the only good american animation(And i'm not sure if they are american)

[Anonymous No.]

Anime entered it's prime during the early 90's, peaked in the late 90's and began turning shit after 2003.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846890
I liked the 2006 anime i just hate that people are always screaming the 90's were the best when only a handfull were even worth looking twice at.(Not to mention all th shitty mecha.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846880
Ed Edd and Eddy was a horrible cartoon

Only people who are aged 17-20 like it, understandably, because it was childhood nostalgia to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846921
I thought it was cute it even had a trap in it.(i think his name was jimmy)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846880

[nub !!LyelpkA5suF No.]

>>5846890

1. Go to Wikipedia's List of animated television series.
2. Jump to the 90's.
3. Click the little box next to "Country of origin."
4. Look at the series from Japan.
5. Repeat for the 00's.
6. Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846938
Jimmy was just gay

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846776
Yes, because I watch K-ON, I never watch any action or drama.

It is actually the people who enjoy moe slice of life who are the best anime fans. Because they watch moe slice of life and everything else, while the normals just watch everything else and rage uncontrollably over how poorly written and predictable young girls eating cake is. You can't tell /jp/ this though because much of /jp/ hates anime in general. Even though they love their touhou, they lash out against the same thing in anime. They are as bad as normals when it comes to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846880
you forgot Dexter's Laboratory, Popeye the sailor, bugs bunny

AND TOM AND MOTHERFUCKING JERRY

HOW YOU COULD FUCKING FORGET TOM AND JERRY YOU PIECE OF SHIT?

YOU COULDN'T BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNEW IT YOU UNCULTURED FUCK.

THIS IS THE PROBLEM WITH ALL OF YOU SHITHEADS, YOU SPEW OUT HATE AND OPINIONS AND DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING EVER.

I MAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846992
>Jerry fucks with Tom's tail
>Tom starts screaming
>Repeat

That show sucked shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847004

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846992
>Dexter's Laboratory
Only likable charcter is DeeDee
>Popeye the sailor
It was cute sometimes but boring most of the time
>bugs bunny
How could i forget this!
>Tom and Jerry
....they don't even talk....
But i love courage the cowardly dog the most

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4IxGQiek3E&feature=related

LOOK AT IT

THIS IS THE FIRST TOM AND JERRY CARTOON

THIS IS THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICAN ANIMATION, YOU POST LATE 60'S FAGS

[Anonymous No.]

Powerpuff girls is pretty awesome.
I know we have a huge fan lurking /jp/ too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847032
>Tom & Jerry Puss Gets The Boot
......Really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9U_C_q6WcU

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847032
still better animated than most anime these days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847032
nah, the golden age of American animation was the 80s if you ask me

You had Little Mermaid, and all the Don Bluth films

some of the best animation of all time

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847004
Every episode they do something different, but sometimes they repeat some gags.

Nigger tom and jerry has won 7 oscars, and was nominated for 6 more.

13 fucking oscar nominations, fuck your shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847044
Powerpuff girls were awesome.

Back to trolling with tom and jerry:

one 8 minute episode of tom and jerry resolved more conflicts than 2 seasons of K-on.

discuss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847099
Who cares about the Oscars

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847081

Animaniacs were awesome too though, and that was 90s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847032
It still makes me laugh now.

[Anonymous No.]

Never change, Miyazaki.

[Vector !NEy29ODpvs No.]

Nice source

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847116
Sadly, that's the truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847116
there were conflicts in k-on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847131
Tsumugi couldn't get her hair straight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847123
slapstick humor makes you laugh?

[Anonymous No.]

Moe has been around forever, I'm sick of hearing about the "moe boom".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847141
Yeah, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847131
Yui's guitar, Yui's inability to play it, Yui trying to sing, Yui's cold, Ritsu's cold, Mio trying to get everyone to practice, Azunyan trying to get everyone to practice.

And that's just in the first season.

>>5847116
Trolling indeed. T&J was pure conflict, where K-ON is not.

[Anonymous No.]

Remember when comedy animu was good?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847116
I wouldn't say Tom and Jerry had any real "conflicts"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847179

Yeah, it's called SZS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847032
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-4oiD9hyKc&fmt=18

Wrong, this is true Tom and Jerry right here

[Maple !storyRpJp6 No.]

my waifu~

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847209

I was talking about comedy animu, not comedy powerpoint presentations

[Anonymous No.]

>>5846851
>The story was dumb and there wasn't even really a villian

THE VILLAIN ALMOST PUSHED A KID OUT OF A HANGER TO HIS DEATH.

[Anonymous No.]

>Opinions thread
Cool opinions, bros.

Since there seems to be a fair amount of talk about K-ON, I might as well pitch in too. I like K-ON, I work long hours doing a fairly stressful job, so just being able to sit down and switch off for half an hour every week and watch a group of characters be generally carefree is just... nice.

There are rather subtle areas of character development in the show that are easy to glance over or dismiss. I won't say the characters are deep, but they're not entirely one-dimensional either.

[Anonymous No.]

>People hating on Cowboy Beebop and Big O

Know what? I don't care if Anime dies anymore.

You guys don't deserve it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847337
>so just being able to sit down and switch off for half an hour every week and watch a group of characters be generally carefree is just... nice.


The main reason I like slice of life too, like Sketchbook Full Colors.

Relaxan Animu.

But it should not over saturate the market with it.

[Anonymous No.]

Henry the fifth had his soldiers go into battle with drawings and rough paintings of beautiful women, birds, flowers and girl-children on the inside of their sheilds.
The soldiers did this not because they were fags, but because in the horror of battle, they could look at something beautiful to ease the weight of what they were seeing and doing
being a man is a hard thing
and working full time and going to school and taking care of your shit (and your woman's shit most likely) is hard
sometimes, you want to just sit back and watch some cute stupid bullshit.
it doenst make you a pedo.
it just means you like girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847346
The market is not oversaturated with it by any means.

[Anonymous No.]

Why ask /jp/?

Anyway, shitty adaptations are now dominating the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847351

I did not say it was, I said it should not. It certainly may lead towards it.

Depends on your definition of Slice of Life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847339
Cowboy Bebop was an average anime in every way. It just had a few stand out episodes. Champloo was much better.

Big O has some of the best robot fightan but it was full of a bunch of vague unexplained deep sounding bullshit that could rival Evangelion.

Big O is awesome though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847370

They aren't "the best" out there but its better than the shit we have now.

[Anonymous No.]

Everything made after I graduated high school sucks

[Anonymous No.]

At least we will never see that Touhou anime again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847227
You fucking mongoloid nigger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvapzt8FKLk
Look at this, this is fucking art.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g6saIPKlZA&feature=related
Just look at it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d46HQVtwuX4
Mouse in Manhattan, a little country mouse out in the big city
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2EekZ6kCpM&feature=related
this one moved me to tears, if you watch it, you'll understand.

Do you even begin to comprehend how amazing these cartoons are? Decades before your moeshit that doesn't even offer *anything* worth comparing.

It saddens me that you bash american cartoons, but don't even begin to mention the classics.

[Anonymous No.]

Anime was dead before any of found out about it.

"The shitty dubs from 10-15 years ago were the old days because I'm in my 20s and wasn't alive before then." <- this is what the new anime fans actually believe

[Anonymous No.]

Anime was dead before any of you found out about it.

"The shitty dubs from 10-15 years ago were the old days because I'm in my 20s and wasn't alive before then." <- this is what the new anime fans actually believe

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847815
The classics were shit
Yes I respect them for what they did, they established the industry raised up a lot of brilliant future artists created some great animation techniques that would carry on for generations etc etc

However those cartoons have not aged well and are not entertaining by today's standards. They are in a style and format that only older generations could identify with. They are overly simplistic and shallow and many of them were just basically tech-demos or were made as lite entertainment to keep crowds at theaters pacified before the feature films started.

[Anonymous No.]

All right, guys, thanks for the demonstration of everything that's wrong with /a/.

Now can you please go back there? Please.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are there some who can't detect reveres trolls in here? I want to imagine it's just samefags replying to their own post, but from the looks of this thread...

I expected better from you, /jp/. At least try to detect trolls and reverse trolls. And anime isn't dying. Stop being retaded. I've seen OP's post has been reposted many times on /a/ already, and it always ends up in a shitstorm, but the general outcome is that anime isn't dying. People ranting and complaining about "moe" would like to believe so, though. Also, feels like gorespammer in here.

[Anonymous No.]

Who gives a fuck? Reported for /a/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5848122
/a/ doesn't discuss anything.
If this was a roulette thread I would have agreed with you.

[Anonymous No.]

Hideaki Anno thinks so,

"in these 12 years, there has been no newer anime than Eva."

He also called modern anime stagnant and closed.

I happen to agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>5848042
>Blah blah speed racer herp derp kimba and gigantor yadda yadda yadda

go to bed, gramps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5848170
You seem to have never visited /a/.

I envy you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5848201
There is only one right now and it's this exact thread, funnily enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5848170
where the fuck are the new mods, tho?

I just now came from /a/ and it's 90% leejun crap. They're all posting shit like toy story porn, photos of tractors and mousepad crap.

[Pestilence !!vKqWKxLMglQ No.]

>255 posts and 45 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view.

serious man serious

[Anonymous No.]

>>5847227
When I was a kid, I always assumed the first Tom & Jerry cartoons were those that are ugly as fuck and almost always include a guy with a bad temper. I hated those, and I hated that guy.