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5826649 No.5826649 [Reply] [Original]

So, how many of you consider yourselves hikikomori?

>> No.5826662

Not anymore.

>> No.5826664
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>> No.5826680

Reporting for encouraging lengthy and unnecessary discussion on the definition of hikikomori.

>> No.5826694

>>5826662
>>5826664
>>5826680
So this kind of thread is a regular thing here?

>lengthy and unnecessary discussion on the definition of hikikomori.
I thought that was pretty clear: it's NEETs who also have no in-person friends, no regular out-of-home hobbies or activities, and generally only leave the house to buy food.

What is there to argue about there?

>> No.5826698

>>5826694
A Hikikomori does not leave his room for food either. He doesn't leave period.

>> No.5826701

>>5826694
Wrong.

A hikiomori is just someone who doesn't leave their house. There's nothing stopping them from having a job online.

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>> No.5826715

Reported.

>> No.5826727

>>5826698
>>5826701
Can we just set all of this bullshit aside and agree, for the purpose of this discussion, to stick to the definition I gave?

A word can have multiple senses, and meaningful discussion can only happen if people accept the sense of the word as used in context.

>> No.5826741

>>5826680
>>5826715
I bet you're fun at parties.

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>>5826741
You go to parties?

>> No.5826754

>>5826727

NEET: Not in education, Employment, or Training.

Hikikomori: Social recluse. There are various levels, and almost everyone will agree on at least these stages:

Stage 1) Hasn't left house in ~4-5 months except to buy food late at night.
Stage 2) Hasn't left house in ~1 year. Rarely goes outside to buy food, maybe once a month.
Stage 3) Does not leave house, or in some cases, room. Time outside can very from never, to once every 1-3 months.

I don't think we need any other definitions.

Carry on.

>> No.5826763

>>5826649

Nope. I'm educated, I have a high paying career, and I'm always in training/learning new things.

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>>5826763

Oh and....

>> No.5826780

>>5826774
>>5826763
>>5826741
>>5826753
>>5826664
Reported.

>> No.5826784

I wish I could still be a hikki, but my family's poor so I don't have a choice in the matter anymore. And it's going to be impossible to get a job without lying on my resume due to that period of hikkidom.

>> No.5826795

>>5826780

re-reported.

>> No.5826808

I spend about 12 hours a day in front of my computer.

>> No.5826814

>>5826808

16 hours here. You're small-time.

>> No.5826819

>>5826808
I'm not even in front of my computer most of the time. I just lie in bed waiting for the next day to come.

>> No.5826828

Lots of personal threads today. Is everyone feeling down because it's Friday?

And I have no trouble going to places like the store or the gym. That's all I really do on the outside though.

>> No.5826830

I'm not a hikki, I just prefer to stay in every day. I usually leave the house for an hour or two for class or grocery shopping.

>> No.5826832

>>5826819

That's pretty sad.

>> No.5826842

I really don't like leaving the house unless I have to. I always feel like people are staring at me. The only shopping trips I've had in the past few months are to the grocery store. I do leave my room though.

>> No.5826841

>>5826819
Oh, I've done that!

I like hanging around with people, going on dates with girls, and all of that stuff, but when it comes down to it, it's just easier to sit quietly at home.

And once you've done this for a few months, you don't have any money to go out, and you're too embarassed to talk about your life to anyone, so you avoid conversation in general.

Now I mostly spend my time plotting how to get rich all at once, so I still don't have to work, but I can enjoy normal social stuff. Or at least order call girls a couple times a week.

>> No.5826839

I have seborrhoeic dermatitis. As the disease became more obvious, I left the house less and less. Now I never go out, except in the mornings around 4 to jog.

>> No.5826840

>>5826832
Yeah. I'm tired of life and I'm too weak for suicide so this is my way of not existing.

>> No.5826848

>>5826840

That's not how "not existing" works .

>> No.5826855

>>5826842

>I always feel like people are staring at me.

They are.

>> No.5826856

>>5826841
>I like hanging around with people, going on dates with girls
normalfag leave this place

>> No.5826870

>>5826841

the fuck is this?

>> No.5826881

>>5826870

In my country this is called "lie".

>> No.5826888

>>5826840
It's called depression, and it's caused by a lack of blow jobs.

I was in your situation once, but then I manned up, got a job where I could get paid the same day, and hired a hooker. Then working seemed worthwhile.

Because my job sucked, and I couldn't hire the hookers I wanted, I got a better job.

Because I was tired of always getting sucked through a condom, I started dressing up and going out to bars. Because I was used to treating women as a way of converting money into blow jobs, it went pretty smoothly.

Now I've got a submissive girlfriend and I've trained her to suck me exactly the way I want. My authority over her depends on the fact that I have a decent job and can treat her as an accessory in public and a toy in private, so I stay motivated.

Long story short: go get your dick sucked, and everything in your life will straighten itself out.

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>>5826888

>> No.5826904

>>5826819
Holy shit, are you me?

>> No.5826907

>>5826904
Yes. I posted that, and then deliberately forgot about it.

Now I am going to deliberately forget posting this.

>> No.5826925

>>5826907
Good times, now I'll never be alone since I can talk to myself.

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>>5826888
Shit nigga, that's just what I was planning on doing. I didn't know it was actually possible for the average /jp/er.

>> No.5826934

>>5826888
>I wanted, I got a better job.
Even though I partially believe your amazing tale, life does not work as easily as you're describing.

>> No.5826936

>>5826929
Live the dream, man. Live the dream.

>> No.5826960

No one on /jp/ is a hikikomori. They're just a bunch of people who read/watched Welcome to the N.H.K and thought it was awesome.

>> No.5826966

I don't know.
Do Hikikomoris get stoned all the time?

>> No.5826969

>>5826960
It wasn't awesome. It was depressing.

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>>5826936
I will. I'm exercising weekly so I can build the strong body of an alpha and attract females. I'm gonna fuck girls and discard them so I can feel better about myself. I highly doubt I will ever get depressed again if I ever reach that point.

>> No.5826987

>>5826960
Yeah, because it's so unlikely that people like us would be disgusted/horrified by society and want to draw ourselves out of it.
Well, there is the fact no one here is Japanese so we're gonna have to get a job someday, but yeah.

>> No.5827007

>>5826934
Better job getting is mostly a matter of actually going to interviews and saying you can do the job. It's its own job.

Step 1: get shitty manual labor / service job
Step 2: do shitty job well, stick with it, get promoted to supervisory position
Step 3: use experience in position of responsibility to justify application to a position of higher responsibility, with prospects for further promotion

In the real world, you're a lot better off being the thoughtful guy in the land of the thoughtless, than trying to compete for the jobs all of the other thoughtful people have thought they ought to want since they were kids, and have been carefully preparing for. They end up mostly fucking each other over, bidding their wages down, while staying away from the work where they'd naturally stand out and get easy promotions.

>> No.5827070

I can understand were hikikomori are coming from. They realize that society totally sucks and want to exclude themselves from it's trappings. I'd become a shut-in in a heart beat if it were financially possable.

>> No.5827121

>>5827070
I dread the (quickly upcoming) day when this carefree lifestyle will no longer be feasible for me.

>> No.5827167

>>5827121
Yes, young one. Your days as of being a high school student are numbered. Cherish them.

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>> No.5827203

I go on a 4-mile walk 3 or 4 days a week.
Until last Tuesday I'd go out and meet with my DnD group.
Occasionally I hang out with a friend or two on the weekend.
No, I don't consider myself a hikki.
I am a NEET though.

>> No.5827219

I can count the amount of times I've left my house since 2006 on my hand. I don't really like using words like hikikomori to describe my situation, but I'm pretty avoidant and reclusive.

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