/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Has anyone ever tried learning or helping memorize specific words or sentences through sleep memorization? (As in, listening to a recording while your asleep) Personally I'm thinking of trying it for Japanese specifically because I have a speaking test at the end of this week, and various other stuff. Or is it all bullshit?

[Anonymous No.]

Bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574108
Yeah, figured as much.

[Anonymous No.]

Bullshit mostly but, i sometimes listen to "pimslurs" (i think) japanese lessons when i go to sleep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574091
Bullshit, really. I did a quick google search, found a site explaining sleep memorization, which quoted as evidence for the method that mothers wake up when their child cries, but can sleep through noises a lot more annoying (snoring, traffic, thunderstorms, basically).
I stopped reading about then because that is bullshit; the female ear is genetically more sensitive to high-pitched noises, because it was designed exactly to be best fit to care for a baby, etc.

Anyway, bullshit. Listen to Pimsleur lessons if the test is about basic moon, though. It should help. Each lesson is about half-hour long, so if you have bus trips or the like during the day (or you are ronery and eat lunch by yourself), you should be able to fit the lessons into your normal routine.

[Anonymous No.]

Protip for Pimsleur's: Calling strangers "anata" like they have you doing from Day 2? not such a good idea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574555
Holy shit, they actual encourage frequent usage of "anata" with strangers? How old is this series?

[Anonymous No.]

>>574091
lol you in wisconsin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>574610
There's several versions, so no clue. I've got one on this computer (Torrent ver, uses anata almost as much as desu, it's really.. how to say, this, 'curious'), and on in another (RS ver, don't actually recall if they changed the anata part, though. Haven't really paid much attention to that version).

The way I see it, having gone only through the first CD, Pimsleur is only a good way to learn sentence structure and maybe some vocabulary, if you are just starting. Worthless otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574621
Nope
>>574555
Wow, they fail. My torrent for it is 50% done, but I don't think I'm gonna trust it much if they do that.

[Anonymous No.]

Sumimasen...Nihongo ga wakarimasu ka?
Hai, sukoshi...
Anata wa Amerikajin desu ka?
Hai, Watashi wa Amerikajin desu
Eigo ga wakarimasu ka?
Iie, wakarimasen.

Actual dialogue from lesson 2 of the Pimsleur Japanese 1 set.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574745
>Hai, Watashi wa Amerikajin desu
>Eigo ga wakarimasu ka?
>Iie, wakarimasen.

Wait, what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>574758
Sorry about that...

A: Sumimasen...Nihongo ga wakarimasu ka?
B: Hai, sukoshi...
A: Anata wa Amerikajin desu ka?
B: Hai, Watashi wa Amerikajin desu
B: Eigo ga wakarimasu ka?
A: Iie, wakarimasen.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, I learned how to say "cheese omelet". It was surprisingly useful.

[Anonymous No.]

Just listen to real Japanese speech instead...

[Anonymous No.]

>>574770
Hahahaha. I doubt anyone else gets that quote.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574971
>>574770
OMELETTE DU FROMAGE

[Anonymous No.]

>>574770
>>574971
and you doubt my intimate knowledge of dexter?

[E-mouse !LNaFATMuso No.]

>>574987
Oh, fuck you, I loved that episode

[Anonymous No.]

i was saddened by the new dexters they came out with. shit suxed after the originals

[Anonymous No.]

Total bullshit. Learn the rote way- it's the tried and true way to learn anything.

Osmosis is known to be a sham. Being conscious, awake, and aware is what works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>574987
Holy shit, I remember that episode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>575036
What is the rote way

[Anonymous No.]

DEXTER'S A COOKIE

[Anonymous No.]

>>575058

You get a list of words, or a list of sentences, and sit down with pen and paper and start memorizing via staring, reciting, writing, and re-writing.

Repetition pretty much solders the connections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>575087

Guess I should explain... there's no "easy" way to learn any language (especially Asia-based ones if you're white), so hours spent studying = better chance of success.

Kids are still not fluent in Japanese after 4 years of studying (~400 hours in-class learning at least) and 6 months of studying abroad. You can imagine how long it'll take learning solo from a book.

[Anonymous No.]

figures go in /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

this thread is now about dexter

[Anonymous No.]

>>575091

[moose No.]

How ARE you supposed to say "you", when you need to say it?

[Anonymous No.]

OMELET DU FRAMAGE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>575107
It's usually implied based on the sentence structure.

...same with referring to yourself without using watashi, boku, etc. A LOT is implied.

[Anonymous No.]

I've listened to nothing but OC remixes and Japanese radio for the last 3 years. I have listening that's at JLPT1 proficiency.

[Anonymous No.]

in b4 dexter pron

[Anonymous No.]

>>575107

Sentences abound with context in Japanese. Let's do an example:

Think of what's being discussed.
(^Implied "you" in this sentence!)

Then assume.
(^Also implied you.)

When I think about what's being spoken about in Japanese, I think about what the relation is and what's logical.
(^Since "you" was previously implied, I changed the subject to myself by specifically saying it.)

The same's true in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>575127

Unless that Japanese radio spanned contexts from national security to daily discussions... good luck!