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I just played my real first visual novel, Ever17.
I don't think there are wrods to describe what I'm feeling right now.
Oh, wait
HOLY FUCKING SHIT EVERYTHING IS TRUE NOTHING IS BULLSHIT EVERYTHING ANYONE SAYS EVER IS RELATED OR ALLUDING TO EVERYTHING LATER
AND I'M THE (TECHNICALLY) GOD DAMN VILLAIN IN THE TRUE PATH. AAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.5739931
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>babby's first vn

>> No.5739938
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>> No.5739940

Reported for shitposting.

>> No.5739944

that's nice anon.

>> No.5739948

You should have picked a lower tier title as your first VN, now the majority of what you'll play will seem shitty

>> No.5739947

>>>/b/

>> No.5739957

>>5739931
It's actually not true. People tend to play something like F/SN, SnU, or YMK first. Ever17 is rarely played as an introductory VN.

>> No.5739963

>my real first visual novel, Ever17.
That probably means he already played some eroges or something considered "bad".

>> No.5739964

>>5739948
But Ever17 is one of the most poorly-executed VNs that anyone plays.

>> No.5739966

>>5739948
I think I'm gonna lay off VNs for a while, this one broke me.

Now for nagging issues:
How did Takeshi get stuck in the infinity loop? Why didn't they burn down the chicken stand, stupid fucking filler. If Takeshi got caught in infinity and had two routes, where did they spring from if he wasn't controlled by BW? How did LeMU get rebuilt, who did it?

Plenty more but that's all I can think of right now.

>> No.5739968

>>5739938
why don't you call it '14 year old boy with flower wreath on head'

>> No.5739974

>>5739957
Why isn't it played as one? It's damn good.

>> No.5739979

>>5739966
Jesus christ, go play it again. All your questions are answered there.

>> No.5739978

>>5739966
"Only you are in infinity loop"

>> No.5739985

>>5739979
Maybe, but I didn't see them. Read through it for two straight days, nothing but it.

>> No.5739986

>>5739974
Most don't have the attention span for it.

>> No.5739994

>>5739986
It does get a bit on the filler side.
Oh, one more thing
Who kicked the can? Neither side had anyone kicking it.

>> No.5739997

>>5739966
Only the stuff in true route is canon.

>> No.5740004

>>5739997
Yes but
the boat ride implies that Sora remembers her route, and both of Kid's routes are referred to in the true route.

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>>5739985
>Read through it for two straight days
Just two days? How weak

>> No.5740011

>>5739947
>>5739944
>>5739940
>>5739931

Why are you all such faggots? You're the people that give /jp/ its reputation for a bunch of asspained virgins who hate the idea of anyone encroaching on their "secret club"

I'm glad you had such fun with Ever17 OP, but like >>5739948 said, it's gunna be hard to find something to top it

As for your questions, I can at least answer this one:

How did LeMU get rebuilt, who did it?

I'm almost certain that in Coco's route it was implied, if not explicitly said, that You'Haru (or whatever the older one was named, I forget) that she convinced them to rebuild it, possibly due to blackmail. It's been a while since I've read it though, so I may be wrong

>> No.5740009

>>5739994
BW, maybe?

>> No.5740008

>>5739986
Most are not in awe of opportunity of wasting their 5 hours on lame dating sim to be rewarded with 5 minutes of arguably brickshitting ending. "It all can be solved with gods and time travel. WOW!!!".

>> No.5740014

>>5739966
>my face when you understood absolutely nothing about what you just read
no face

>> No.5740015

>>5740004
Isn't true route one of Kid's routes?

>> No.5740020

>>5740009
I thought he was like Sora original; can't manipulate anything without a host body. On that note, didn't Sora on Kid's route and on the true route 2034 actually die due to no backup?

>> No.5740024

>>5739985
You coordinated the project to rebuild it.
What really happened is a mix between the 2 routes on each character, and the result is the True End route. The routes are what could have happen if BW picked certain choices during the incident, he is in the infinity loop after all.
They have to simulate EVERYTHING as perfect as possible to the incident 17 years ago to summon BW.

>> No.5740031

>>5740015
.....no.

>> No.5740038

I hope the stupid people in this thread is just one stupid person trolling.

>> No.5740044

>>5740024
So lack of choices on true route was BW's subconcious running on auto for them to get the right results?
What about Sara in Takeshi's route, her voice? And why did Coco continue to interfere in the true route?

>> No.5740046

>>5740011
Because he write in uppercase and is overly excited about something he shouldn't be.

I don't want him here.

I also hate the idea of anyone encroaching on my secret club, yes. Especially someone from 4chan.

>> No.5740055

Also
Tsugumi thought it was a trap specifically for them on 2017. Why just the originals? Or did I misinterpret that?

>> No.5740059

>>5740044
Kind of.
The voices BW hear or images he sees it's his memories, since he already 'lived' in all those places / times / paths and that's why only you (BW) can hear/see it. The mysterious can kick is a result of these "crossings" for example.

>> No.5740077

>>5740055
If I recall correctly Tsugumi was trying to gather information in 2017, and in the second incident she received information that she could see her son and daughter if she went to the now rebuilt lemu

>> No.5740079

>>5740059
I think I get it kind of.
So the can was never actually kicked, but time blurring or something like that produced the sound while warping it back to it's original point? That would also explain the two Kids and the phantom voice in 2017, they could hear both Kids on that route for some reason.
And uh
Would BWs summoning failed once he started seeing that the situations weren't the same as he awoke and started changing the path?

>> No.5740082

THERE WERE NO DUPLICATE CHARACTERS

>> No.5740090

>>5740077
I was referring to 2017. She said she was trying to get them to see the severity of the cure virus in 2017, but how did she know of IBF, and what did she think they would do? She seemed to know on May 7th 2017 that they would try to research and manipulate her, so why did she make her presence known? Did she think they would cure Cure before the events?
Also
Life reaction. If LeMMIH couldn't detect Sora, I don't think it would detect BW, as it is different from humans. So why on the end of the wrong routes did it say LR1? Hell, what was LR7 about? Who was 7?

>> No.5740107

>>5740079
Yes, something like that.
Let's remember that BW could only travel between 2017 and 2034 because he wasn't aware those were different incidents, so if they were different he would remain 'locked' in a single period, in 2017 or 2034

>> No.5740119

>>5740090
Ah shit, I'm an idiot. LR1 on wrong paths was Coco. But that also doesn't make sense, she dies if not frozen before LeMU implodes from TB, right? And I thought LeMMIH was disconnected from IBF, so it shouldn't see anyone there, correct? I mean, I can see inside the HIMMEL area as seen in 2017, but isn't IBF different since Sora cannot go there?

>> No.5740153

>>5740119
Keep in mind that You (the 2034 You) was administrating the whole thing from the surface, I believe the life readings were her doing to make BW start to think about things and end up traveling back to 2017 and 2034 until he gets what's going on.

>> No.5740206

>>5740153
Yeah, but
What about in 2017? Kid 2034 said it himself: only 5 LR should have appeared. And BW seeing Coco shouldn't have been detectable by LeMMIH, and in addition, the LR remained at 6 throughout 2017, it dropped to 5 after Coco on the bed in 2034, which should have been a warning sign to BW.
why am i analyzing this

>> No.5740207

>>5739948
Not really. It depends on his personal taste.

>>5739957
Maybe now.

It used to be Ever17, Planetarian, and Tsukihime for the most popular starter VNs.

>> No.5740229

Also
Were the characters really stuck in a time loop, throwing them back every time they fucked it up, or was it alternate realities that they fucked up in? They refer to two paths every time it's brought up, but...

>> No.5740234

>>5740229

There is no time loop. Every route "happened" all at once.

>> No.5740239

>>5740206
I know it's pretty confusing and I don't think there is a "official" explanation to that. So stick with what I said in >>5740153.
All these "errors" happened on purpose in 2034, while in 2017 those were mere mechanical errors or if you want it to be more symbolic it could be a result of the rift caused by BW (let's suppose his presence and 'power' can also affect external things, such as the life reader)

>> No.5740240

>>5740207
That was before F/SN, KS, and SnU, though.

>> No.5740249

>>5740234
Ah, I get it now. So:
Stuck in infinity refers to not finding the right path and is only referring to BW's search for the anomaly (the true path)
Did I get that right?

>> No.5740260

My head might also be fried from playing this for the entire day and spending until 5:30 am to play.
I actually fell out of my chair at some of the plot twists. No joek.

>> No.5740279

Also, one of the most shocking things was
Kid 2's appearance reveal. I knew it was coming as soon as they mentioned the mirror, but the combination of the heavy music when the entire game had been mostly low tone music even during panic, in addition to how different looked really made me think "Oh fuck, the game is going to start pounding me in the ass with plot twists"

>> No.5740311

>>5740279
Yeah, from the time Drittes Auge starts playing, that's pretty much when the game goes into mindfuck time.

>> No.5740567

But yeah, is there any other good VNs for the next time I want to try one? I liked the mystery/survival theme of this one, and no H scenes was a great bonus.

>> No.5740584

>>5740567
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni

>> No.5740592

>>5740567
Play Cross+Channel, about the no H scene thing, you can choose not to have H scene in the game. But it's a hit or miss, don't blame me if you hate it. It's my favorite VN up till now, though.

>> No.5740645

Are there any VNs made by the same company on the same level as Ever17?

>> No.5740673

>>5740645
No, not really.
Honestly, someone said it earlier, you kind of played the best one first, the rest are going to seem bad in comparison.

>> No.5740684

>>5740645
Easy. Remember11, and it's being translated too. And I suggest you google or use vndb.org for more info about it.

>> No.5740717

>>5740584

>> No.5741792

Honestly, the game should have come with some sort of 3d exploration to let you explore LeMU though.
It just seems like it's be a cool place to explore around rather than just seeing the different backgrounds.

>> No.5741829

>>5740645
What you mean with "level"? Plot twists or just something really interesting? (though that is pretty plastic)
There are many good VNs out there as good as Ever17, but they have are of different genre.

>> No.5741847

>>5741829
Ah.
I dunno, I just loved the setting, plot twists, and overall polish the game felt it had. And the music was great.
I liked the whole "a few moments into the future" survival/trapped/mystery setting and plot. Hard to explain.

>> No.5741857

>>5741829
Oh, and one thing that'll always get me is the interface for other games will feel odd. I've gotten used to the keyboard shortcuts for a bunch of shit in Ever17 which probably vary from game to game.

>> No.5741861

>>5741847
Try Remember11, it's from the same company and it's very similar to Ever17. It's not as good though.

>> No.5741869

>>5741861
Fully translated?

>> No.5741879

>>5741869
yep.

>> No.5741887

>>5741879
Do I need to fuck around with Windows locale settings, because all I've got is 7 Home Premium and locale is no go on this version...

>> No.5741902

>>5741887
hm.. I don't know about that. I haven't played it yet, actually.

>> No.5741920

ever17 had the best use of the VN medium of all VNs.
a trick like this just can't be repeated again and still seem good. and it makes other shitty tricks like key ball of light seem downright retarded.

>> No.5741934

>>5741920
You shouldn't talk about stuff like "best use of the VN media" if you didn't play much VNs.
For all the VNs I played, Saihate no Ima had the best use of this media.

And the key ball of light wasn't a trick, just a plot device.

>> No.5741943

>>5741920
What do you mean by best use of the VN medium? Please elaborate.

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/r/ing the Ever17 endings picture. Pic related, the Tsukihime one is the only one I have saved yesterday.

>> No.5741970

>>5741945
>yesterday
Are you a newfag?

>> No.5741973

Also, I love how most if not all of the stories or technical explanations of things in Ever17 are based in reality or actual stories. Seriously, every time I saw an outlandish looking explanation or story, I googled some keywords, and bam, I get about the same thing, but with no references to Ever17. They really did their fucking homework.

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>>5741945
Here it is.

As for other games to play: Remember11, definitely Remember11. It's also 10/10 awesome in a different way, but it's from the same writer. Music is also by the same guy. It's one of the three VNs I rated 10/10 (along with Ever17 and Umineko).

>> No.5742044

>>5741943
Not him, but I think he meant that a twist like that involving Takeshi's hair and multiple routes being the same yet different make you think "this shit would only work as a VN". An Ever17 Anime/Manga/Anything Else would be completely shitty, because Ever17 without routes and first-person view would be shitty. I haven't played Saihate no Ima, though, and I'm in no position to talk about The Best Use of the VN Media since I don't know Japanese and didn't even read anything by Leaf besides Utawarerumono.

>> No.5742048

bump

>> No.5742125

>>5742044
Saihate no Ima is a somewhat obscure sci-fi VN, however I'll not talk about it because I haven't played it and won't either.

Ever17 has great use of the VN media because it has very flexible and intertwined routes that you switch in-game progressively and thus can have an experience of dual reality/multiverse without picking individual routes and clearing them mechanically, which spoils the surprise. Also the idea that the player is a godlike spectator.

>> No.5742523

This hasn't been posted yet?

http://www.kgptzac.info/ever17/

Also, might as well add the rest of the supplementary links. Summer /jp/ is full of faggotry though, so I'll only supply the MediaFire. Get the TLs on your own.

Manga:
http://www.mediafire.com/?0wwygeudy0m
http://www.mediafire.com/?jdkl4ii4jhj

Drama CDs:
http://www.mediafire.com/?m3i4dnmnzzq
http://www.mediafire.com/?uolgm04ay2z

Single Collection (contains first drama CD and extra seiyuu stuff):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=R78F717X
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=78F7YZK8
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GCC64L3D
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=1QFNJO14
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BZEV6L8V

>> No.5743130

>>5742000
Are there more of these? I've got only E17 and Tsukihime.

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>>5743130
Symphonic Rain.

Also for 142 minutes of mindfuck go watch Inception.

>> No.5743172

>>5743158
I'm talking about 'ending reactions' pics...

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