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New Cosmic Break thread of NEW loli demons and miniature Crimroses.

>> No.5738045
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5738045

The new robots' Magical Circle abilities act like miniature Power Spots. So, uh, hooray?

Crim-chan is just Koko but with slightly different stats/Wonder Bit and Garapon-only.

>> No.5738081

>>5738045
>act like miniature Power Spots.

Do they increase healing speed as well?
That'd be some impressive mobile medic action combined with heal bits. And is this supposed to be in the september beta?

>> No.5738183
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>>5738081
I don't know. I only gleaned it from the couple of Kokos and Crim-chans haunting the mission area. I have no clue what Kiss does (it may even debuff, although it seems a bit slow...), although I'm pretty sure that Tumble is just a joke move.

Oh yeah, and Koko can be bought at the Shop like a regular robot, so no worries there. I'm guessing they'll rotate mini-Crim in and out of selection, though, since they replaced the old Blue Garapon with this new list containing Mini-Crim.

Oh yeah, one of the new Garapon items is that helmet thingy that Japanese preschoolers stereotypically wear. Yeah...

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And for you guys who CAN'T HANDLE THE MOE, there's always this fellow right here.

>> No.5738218

Where do I get one of those? Were they just added? I played earlier today and I didn't see any of them.

>> No.5738252

>>5738218

Wait, maybe I should read before posting.

>> No.5738290

>>5738218
They're new, came with the usual maintenance update.

Also the treasures have refreshed again, so if you need gobs of cash, now's a good time. When the inevitable 20% discount comes, Koko will cost a "mere" 64 Root.

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Dammit, they changed the treasure order again. Now it's all basically up to chance.

But on the bright side, they added a new Lock-On indicator.

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>> No.5738996

>The new robots' Magical Circle abilities act like miniature Power Spots.
Actually, now that I've stepped in Koko's Magical Circle, I thiiiink Koko, Gara Koko, and Crim-Chan's Magical Circles may have different effects.

>> No.5739108

>>5738954

What is that even tinier Crimrose and how do I get one?

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>>5739108
I think those are accessories.

>> No.5739638

When does this temporary buying Rt end? Will the quests reset again before it does (I know it reset today)?

>> No.5739835
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>>5739638
The Rt event seems to last until the 29th.

Not sure about the quests.

Also there's something about Ouka and her promotion that may or may not expire soon, but I can't really make heads or tails of the message. Speaking of which, I haven't seen Ouka-chan ingame yet...

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Picture of Koko's Magical Circle Buff. Dunno what it does.

>> No.5739946
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>>5738183 although I'm pretty sure that Tumble is just a joke move.
Heart attacks are no joking matter.

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I...is that a Crimrose's head on a Frog Lander?

>> No.5739993
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Either that or it's a really in-depth paint shop job.

>> No.5739996

(´・ω・`)クソゲー乙

>> No.5740037
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>Shield Shotgun

>> No.5740061

>>5740037
crowd control

>> No.5740063

>>5738183

>Oh yeah, one of the new Garapon items is that helmet thingy that Japanese preschoolers stereotypically wear.

That yellow hat? I love that fucking hat.

>>5739946
What does tumble look like/do?

>> No.5740125
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>What does tumble look like/do?
It looks like this.

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>>5740125
Oh, so it's just a faceplant

>> No.5740328

They really need to rebalance old Ghostrees. They're practically impossible to kill early on.

>> No.5740719

>>5738928
Doesn't help that the actual reticle blends in too much with the background.

>> No.5741290
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What a pleasant start to the day.

>> No.5741354 [DELETED] 

>>5740328

If you hang around and collect powerups, they're easy to kill. Hyper shot helps too.

>> No.5741613
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For some reason I kept all my powerups from my last quest.

>> No.5742216
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OK, guys, decision-making time.

Now that I'm FABULOUSLY VIDEO GAME WEALTHY, I kinda want to go back to being video game poor...by spending all my money on stuff. Good stuff.

Only problem is that I'm merely 99.9993% sure I really want an Izuna.

Other options:
- Spend it on a Seraph Promotion.
- Save up even more for Coco/other robot/5 rolls of Garapon/that stupid 200 root poster.
- Blow it on 1 spin of Garapon.

>> No.5742336

>>5742216
I wouldn't spend it on a seraph, as this UC to RT event only happens every so often meaning if anything you should use it on something that costs RT.

The Event still lasts until the 29th so just try to grind more, and if you cant get something better, just buy an izuna as 1 garapon roll is way to risky.

>> No.5742357

>>5742216

I just reached 150k as well and blew it on a Seraph. I regret nothing. I don't know why you'd want an Izuna over a Seraph, but if you really like her then go for it.

>> No.5742378

>>5742216
Spin! Spin! Spin! Spin!

If you get shit, you can return to English beta anyway.

>> No.5742842

>>5742357
Well, it's partially because of the "I got a normally real cash only bot with in-game money only" factor and partially due to the fact that I like compact M AIR because of the variety of equips (L weaponry, mini bazookas, and wing joints) and slightly better base statistics, especially after playing Pacifar all the time in Beta. Now Pacifar's kinda really rare, and I don't think I like the looks of Mecha Jetter or the two gorilla-like Mach Ones, so I figure Izuna would be the next best bet.

Take off those giant cost-sucking legs, slap on some Crimrose or Lazflamme legs, and go to town. Maybe add those Tengu wings and see what the deal is with this "Fly High" ability.

The other major factor is that I don't really know when the next discount will be. Yet another factor is that if the treasure list is worked out again, I'll probably be able to earn enough for a Seraph or a garapon spin in a couple weeks of treasure runs--the current treasure list has a possibility of 491,000 UC to be earned from Treasure Lists alone.

So...I guess Izuna. If the Rt conversion rate resets next time around (hopefully it does), I'll consider dumping everything into Garapon fodder. Maybe I should see if I can make some more Rt in the next couple of days to increase my purchasing power later. But...I doubt it. I think I'll just wait for the treasure charts to fill out.

>> No.5742895

>>5742216
>that stupid 200 root poster.
Dude I'm pretty sure they don't ship those overseas

>> No.5742921

>>5742842
>Take off those giant cost-sucking legs

Can you gift those? Taking them, slapping on a bee alongside two viper shields and having a low-cost homing flying bot is the only reason I'm getting Izuna. I'll probably junk Izuna herself and never use her.

>> No.5743034

>>5742921
Sadly, you can't gift stuff already in your garage. And Izuna Nagi Legs cost 50 Root as it is--I simply cannot get that much Root (or UC) this event, never mind handling fees.

...

Yes, I know that pricing Izuna Kamui Nagi's legs at the same point as an entire Izuna Kamui Nagi is completely retarded. But that's what the Wiki says.

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>>5742921
Oh yeah, thanks for the idea.

>> No.5743082

>>5739906

Was reading that thread on 2ch and someone mentioned them both in passing saying one gives hyperfire and the other gives long range.

>> No.5743110

>Was reading that thread on 2ch and someone mentioned them both in passing saying one gives hyperfire and the other gives long range.

Hm, that puts things into perspective.

Coco: Long Range.
Crim: Hyper-Fire.

Unless the three Cocos have DIFFERENT Magical Circles...

>> No.5744681

>>5741290
I got some shitty materials third day in a row.

>> No.5744822

>Clear Cacpetus Vacation on Hard solo
And how the fuck am I supposed to do that

>> No.5744872

>>5744822

Good crim, shitty bee bot, good crim. That's how I did it.

>> No.5748624

>>5741290

Are these random or based on rank? I only got tune up materials.

>> No.5748713

>>5748624

Random. Some people get lucky and get useful stuff. Others, like myself, just have a million hard plates piling up.

>> No.5749657
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>Seraph
Having just compared the stats of pretty much all AIR-type bodies, I'm a little surprised by how thoroughly Seraph dominates M/S AIR in terms of stats (and most likely abilities).

About the only thing to recommend Tesladonna over Seraph, for instance, is Broad Radar and slightly lower Cost. Well, that and you only need one set of Level Breakers for Tesla. But you lose out on Stealth System and Seraph Wing.

>> No.5751076

There's an event on the Jp server, special Quest planet for fighting GMs.

They're broadcasting it at http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cosmicbreak-us too.

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>> No.5751113

>>5751076

How do I join this?

>> No.5751122

>>5751076
So a 3rd planet should show up in the quest menu soon? I best get me in on that action.

>> No.5751123

>>5751113
You just go to the ground area and enter the event planet I think

>> No.5751131

All I see is the normal quest mode and the 3 boss quests.

>> No.5751136

>>5751131

Nevermind. It just showed up.

>> No.5751137

That god damn chibi Crimrose is making me want to play the jp version again! Must... resist... must wait... for OB2...

>> No.5751144

Which one do I join? There are 6.

>> No.5751150

Well, this is incredibly dumb. Way too many people, not enough monsters, and so on.

>> No.5751192

I'm a little reluctant to gamble with garapon. The chances of winning what you wanted was terrible for me on the OB, is it any better in jp?

>> No.5751252

I got stuck on a loading screen in between areas. So much for this event.

>> No.5751260
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IT'S A MADHOUSE

>> No.5751300

I'm stuck in an area that has a gate that leads to the same area.

>> No.5751315
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:(

>> No.5751317

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/cosmicbreak-us
GMs vs players event

>> No.5751359
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Well that was bizarre. Spent a while hunting down a little Haku fox (that's the Izuna Kamui-related boss, right?) then when it dies it turns into like 7 bazooka guys. Then we were booted out and we got a couple messages from the guys up top about Rt and UC.

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>>5751359

>> No.5751364 [DELETED] 

July 29 to August 26, Uc to Rt conversions:

1 ~ 10Rt ⇒ 200UC
11 ~ 20Rt ⇒ 400UC
21 ~ 30Rt ⇒ 800UC
31Rt ~ 40Rt ⇒ 1,600 UC
41Rt ~ 50Rt ⇒ 3,200 UC

>> No.5751424

Anybody have a chart of the treasures?

>> No.5751444

>>5751424
Nobody has a clear grasp of where all of the treasures are right now. Keep in mind that the treasure orders were changed up only yesterday.

Here's a very incomplete list:
http://www42.atwiki.jp/cosmicbreak/pages/96.html

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>>5751365
BUT I ALREADY EXCHANGED 150K

>> No.5752155
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>>5752072
What do the messages say?.

...

I also exchanged 150K.

JUST
RIGHT
NOW.

I figured, given that the Rt Charge event was ending on Thursday, I may as well exchange for Root now before I forget.

>> No.5752205

>>5752155
Since the players won in the vs GM event there will be a special rate Rt Exchange starting with the 29th.

But it looks like this
1~10Rt ⇒ 200UC
11~20Rt ⇒ 400UC
21~30Rt ⇒ 800UC
31Rt~40Rt ⇒ 1,600UC
41Rt~50Rt ⇒ 3,200UC
So I guess it's no loss after all.

Also there will be a UC garapon, 200UC for one roll, 800 for 5.

List of contents
http://www.cosmicbreak.jp/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/1007231.png

>> No.5752267

>>5752205

So this is an entirely new event and not an extension of the current one? Meaning if we already bought 50 RT, we can buy 50 more?

>> No.5752294

GMs were hanging out in the central area and talking about Comike, it sounds like the release of a dakimakura is pretty much confirmed.

>> No.5752372
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>>5752205
Well, I guess it's no problem that I gave all my UC away for a handful of Root, provided that they reset the trade-in values. With 100 Rt, that's a bit more purchasing power, not to mention the Rt you might get from Garapon.

...

I do realize that 150,000 UC would have gotten me 935 spins on the Garapon. Actually, if every item is weighted equally (there could be some dickery afoot), that would turn out to be only ~46 Rt on average. But you'd at least get some items to sell back for even more Rt and tickets/consumables to make grindan easier...

Anyway, I did a little searching and found what bot's parts are being put on Garapon. It's a gold version of this guy right here.

>> No.5752445

Oh, and if you want to trade the maximum amount of UC away for Root in this second currency exchange, you're gonna need 62,000 UC. Over half of that's for the final 10 Rt.

Incidentally, presuming you have a 1/20th chance of earning 1 Root from Garapon and you always use the Roll 5x option, the exchange rate there is 3200 UC:1 Rt. So after you buy 40 Rt, you'd likely be better off just rolling on Garapon.

>> No.5752505

>>5752445
So in a nutshell, those grinding for Rt right now should stop at 30RT and wait for the new Garapon to use all money on? Cool.

Slotted Wing Plus AMJ will look nice for my bee, too.

>> No.5752603

>>5752505
More or less. But keep in mind we don't know if the Garapon is rigged in any way, though on the other other hand you could presumably sell the Big Mantes parts for mad cash to fund further Garapon attempts.

And even if you don't/can't sell the parts, you can run the Level 5 Treasure Quest twice in about 10 minutes for a quick 1000 UC.

I suppose the sound strategy is this: trade for 30 Root now, buy 40 Root next week, and then Garapon the rest of your UC away and hope for the best.

I do feel a bit bamboozled for trading in the whole 150,000 UC right now, but I suppose racking up about 50K in a week (or two, depending on how long the Garapon lasters) shouldn't be that hard. And this information can keep others from making similarly dumb mistakes.

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HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO BEAT THIS SHIT WITH THESE SHITTY STATS/MECHS/WEAPONS

EVEN IF I GET TO THE FUCKING BOSS I ONLY HAVE LESS THAN 2 MINUTES LEFT AND THERE'S JUST SO MUCH SHIT ON THE MAP

I CAN'T EVEN AIM STRAIGHT AT HIM BECAUSE SOME FAGGOT IS ALWAYS IN THE WAY

FUCK

>> No.5753205
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Wow, a GERWALK Valkyrie.

>> No.5753405

>>5752982

I use air for the boss and never had problems aiming for his middle. Just take down that flamethrower enemy right when the match starts and wait for the boss to get close to the cliff near where you start and go to town. His missiles are really slow, so you shouldn't get hit much. Just keep a decent distance and blast him. He doesn't have much HP.

>> No.5753754

>>5752205
damn, I had already decided to drop .jp CB and wait on US OB2, spending all my time right now on Eien no Aselia anyway. But now I'm tempted to go play it again, gahhhhhh. Unfortunately I hardly did any questing before quests reset so I missed out on a lot of easy UC.

I want my Maril again... though in OB I was using a Maril Trill, I'm not even sure what the difference in the core weapon is between Trill and the shop version

>> No.5754345

>>5753754 I want my Maril again...
Short boost + quick landing = super rage machine

>> No.5754379

>>5754345
SHORT BOOST + QUICK LAND EVERY ROBOT NO QUESTIONS

>> No.5754419
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any more of these and I'm going to have a heart attack

>> No.5754535

>>5754379
Shobu should be an Rt item like accel roll and loop.

>> No.5754571

>>5754345
I never even knew about short boost abuse on US beta so I never had it. I'm going to assume you can charge sounds balls while hopping around? since otherwise it would defeat the purpose of using Maril

>> No.5755352

I keep forgetting I still have the beginner ticket active.
It's going to be horrible once it runs out.

>>5754571 since otherwise it would defeat the purpose of using Maril
Having quick landing with short boost is enough of a reason to use her.

>> No.5755374

Why does /jp/ get all mad and sage for "off-topic" posts but accept this?

Shouldn't Cosmic break belong in /v/ as it is a game?

>> No.5755428

>>5755374
Because people who did (all two of them) got banned.

>> No.5755429

>>5755374
Mecha Musume. MMO.

Welcome to /jp/, friend.

>> No.5755452

I have the urge to polyedit a bot into a servbot due to Legends 3 having maybe kind of being announced, but I don't wanna fuck around in the nip version because half the parts it'd need are RT.

How shitty

>> No.5756521 [DELETED] 

You can buy Rt stuff, but you opbviously can't buy the ability to

>> No.5756530

You can buy Rt stuff, but you obviously can't buy the ability to aim properly.

>> No.5756843

Every single person that I have seen uses cash shop bots. Not a single non cash bot is seen anywhere. No wonder nobody plays this anymore.

>> No.5756880

>>5756843
are you talking about jpCB or iCB

>> No.5756917

>>5755374
read the rules

>> No.5756934

>>5756843
Considering how many foreigners there are now that just started, not really.

I've seen some guy from the /a/ guild with a chibi Crim though.

>> No.5757090

What is up with people hating this game because of so many 4chan people playing on it?

>> No.5757120

>>5756880

Obviously the beta is full of cash bots, but I am talking of the Japan servers. It is more than difficult to find anybody that isn't screwing around using anything other than a cash only bot. And it seems 90% of them have parts from multiple cash only bots and cash only weapons on them. Everybody else must have left or bought their own bots.

>> No.5757125

>>5757090
they're retarded underage kids that are annoying to everyone by talking to themselves in global chat.

>> No.5757262

>>5757125
It's not like /b/ occupies the game entirely. I don't see any crazy shit coming out of the channers.

>> No.5757276

>>5757262
That Desu guy needs to talk less. I've read more than a few times of people complaining about him.

>> No.5757309

EVEN THE AERIAL UNITS HAVE FUCKING BAZOOKAS FUCK OFF

>> No.5757316

>>5757276
I like him. It's better than "otsukaresama" all the time.

>> No.5757518

>>5757309
Obviously, how else do you expect to fight other air units.

>>5757316
Sup Desu. Get the fuck out.

>> No.5757741

>>5757518
He's shitting up soul master now

>> No.5758546

I've noticed that gifting Rt robots costs more Rt. Specifically, 1/5 more Root. I should've guessed.

I figure when I get 100 Root I'll spend 50 on Izuna and 50 on a spin of Garapon. I figure that one guaranteed bot and a roughly 40 to 50 percent chance of getting another is better than dumping it all on one robot. Now vs. Later and all that.


I've read that these GM vs. Player events will happen every 4th Friday of the month. If we win (which is kinda assured), they'll add something special, like the discount Rt exchange starting on the 29th. It sounds like the Victory Bonus will differ from month to month.

Source:
http://www.cosmicbreak.jp/info/topic/7224

>> No.5758586

Is it still impossible to get Lazflamme LOUD? I don't want to play unless I can get her

>> No.5758609

>>5758586
There are currently no LazFlammes on Garapon.

>> No.5758906

What is that scythe weapon and why am I getting hit for 100+ from it?

>> No.5758976

I've noticed that I hate Japanese players. So I'm going to start shitting up global chat with English nonsense, since I'm butthurt that I fail and can't get Rt and the dual handshot and scythe and Ouka and Mighty Byne that the tools who play this game use.

>> No.5760042

>>5757741
Good riddance.

>> No.5760234

kawaii loli-gigan there

>> No.5761087

Well, the starter ticket has ran out.

It's super grind mode from now on.

>> No.5762409

I still play from time to time, taking it easy. No have no problems getting top 10 on shorter crown games (random ark, no-power maps) with UC only dual frogs.

>> No.5762633

Is there a new (at least partial) treasure list yet? I just wasted so much time yesterday going through stages 3-7 and completing only 1.5 treasures before giving up and planning on restarting. Without a list I think I'd be better off just grinding arenas for UC. Still have my newbie ticket, keep waiting until I'm ready to grind heavily before using it (though I don't really feel in the mood for grinding at all, especially since all the xp will go to waste as my bots reach lvl 5 and don't want to waste limit removers on the ones I have now... I want a fucking crim but got screwed over by the rankup change)

>> No.5762725

>>5762633

http://www42.atwiki.jp/cosmicbreak/pages/96.html

>> No.5763229

>>5762725
tyvm... oh damn I failed so hard yesterday, treasures 3 and 4 can be done with just blue gates through the first two stages. I started with treasure 3 on stage 3 and didn't get the cogwheel until the final area of stage 5.

What's up with the rank restrictions though, are they disabled? It gave me treasure 4 when I finished treasure 3 even though I'm still New Hero

>> No.5763247

>>5763229

You can do new treasure quests once you finish the old ones. You can't start from them until you level up though.

>> No.5763381

ok no

wait

let's make a melee weapon that deals 100 damage per hit

and then make it equippable by small air

>> No.5763594

>>5763381
Or

Let's make an air unit that can fly for a ridiculously long time and make a stage with altitudes where it is impossible for air's only counters to target

>> No.5763677

>>5763594

I haven't seen much Shaden abuse on the jp version. Everyone carries bazookas so there's no point to playing air.

>> No.5763913

>>5763677
There's plenty of seraphs.

>> No.5763917

>Let's make an air unit that can fly for a ridiculously long time and make a stage with altitudes where it is impossible for air's only counters to target

This is really the big problem with AIR in general. If they have access to mostly-exclusive high ground and have some method of extended flight (Seraph, Shaden Booster, Float Bit) they're basically invincible except against other AIRs taking advantage of those traits. Otherwise they range from kinda mundane to obvious Explosive bait.

>> No.5763948

Does Crim-chan turn into Seraph crim-chan?

>> No.5763957

>>5763229
Rank restricts the treasure list choice at the beginning, which can limit how many treasure lists you can complete.

Anyway, I think it's possible to finish all 10 treasure lists now if you're at least Rank 15 (which lets you start from Treasure List 6).

>> No.5764193

>>5763957
damn, I realized that after I restarted the quest to do 1 and 2 again, can only start on 3 now. Guess I'm gonna have to do a bunch of arena to rank up, I need ranks anyway if I want to buy a crim from shop. Really don't want to be stuck using the bee as my only air for rushing through quest areas

>> No.5764558

>>5764193
Incidentally, you get Rank points for turning treasures in, even if you've got the list as already cleared before. It's fairly competitive if you choose a fast and high-rank list. I got 60ish rank points and 500 UC per five-seven minute Treasure List 5 run. Only problems are it's horrible for EXP and soul crushing to boot.

>> No.5764814

>>5764558
hmmm that sounds pretty good to me, I couldn't care less about xp because my handful of bots will all be lvl 5 in no time from arena. I keep thinking about trying out some of these bots I'm getting BDs of, but I need too many damn parts, something in short supply here compared to US beta with my gazillion junked garapon bots.

I knew that quest area without treasure was horrible for rank points so I wasn't even thinking about using it; I guess now the question is if I can redo treasures I've already finished via continuous run but don't have the rank for. If I could then I can go for treasures 3-5 in one run then redo #5, otherwise I'll still have to rank up to 12 first.

>> No.5766180

>>5762633 Still have my newbie ticket, keep waiting until I'm ready to grind heavily before using it
Keep in mind that it doesn't multiply with other tickets though, it only adds an extra 100% (at lest in case of UC), so you won't get a x6 if you use a x3 ticket with it.

>> No.5766215

I really regret using a crim as my starter. Air is completely useless on this version. I thought it would get better once I made her into a Seraph, but it hasn't. Can't even kill land bots with all the short boost going on.

>> No.5766654

>>5766215
lolwhat? Air's great in this version, explosives were nerfed from x2.2 dmg to air down to 1.4 compared to US beta

>> No.5766833

>>5766654

I find that hard to believe. I used Seraph in the beta as well and I'm taking just as much damage from missiles here as I was there. I take even more in the crown matches.

>> No.5766915

>>5766215
Lasers. But you can bet they;ll be using dual slayers which knock out out of the sky anyway.

>> No.5766926

>>5766215
Get an Izuna Kamui booster and do high altitude trolling.

>> No.5767437

>>5766215
I regret using Lily because I get rushed by unhittable land bots every round; I either end up frantically trying to evade while hoping my teammates can kill them, or run and hide at max range while they attack someone else. Usually I die and wind up in my bee bot trying to kill them, at least I can stay alive for a while then.

Although I'm trying to save every UC I can for Rt exchange, I think I'm going to buy that 3,200 UC S Air that's actually faster than a crim. Bee is so damn slow, especially when I stick a mini bazooka on it. I can stick the same weapons on any S Air I use, but I think the extra cost is worth the way better speed and higher hp. Plus I seriously need a better air bot for questing, takes too long to get through the areas with Lily. Used Aquila for questing in US Beta but something weaker will have to do here.

>> No.5768688

>>5766915
What's a good laser for S-air?

>> No.5770770

Goddamn jumping bots are invincible. Why didn't this get nerfed a long time ago? There is literally no point in using any other type of bot.

>> No.5770906

>>5768688
The absolute best Laser for Small Air is the Baltheon arm. Tied for longest range and highest power, no stat loss, lower effective cost than either of the two "high end" UC lasers. Ammo is low, however, but you get two per Baltheon. I read that it's best to tune for range, but good luck doing so.

Yes, this pretty much means that M AIR has no point especially with Seraph and L-AIR only equips in the mix. OK, Blitz Blaster + Bazooka, but that's about all.

>> No.5770974

>>5770906
Pacifer is a top tier air in general, and has more customization compared to seraph.

>> No.5771171

>>5770974
Hm, I suppose so. Going from my body comparison list here >>5749657, Paci starts with more Capacity (about 100 more) and up to two more customizable slots (head, possibly booster) than an optimally promoted Seraph, but Seraph has higher or equal stats in general (besides Toughness), gets more HP from Capacity cartridges, as well as ends up with one more Capacity cartridge than Pacifar (though Pacifar still comes out ahead on CAP). But I don't think Paci can duplicate Seraph Wing easily.

Also Pacifar is really really hard to get since it's on the fuckhuge garapon list that probably gets swapped out every so often.

But yeah, Pacifar is probably your go-to bot if you want something that can hold a lot of stuff with minimal upgrades, or if you want to play with tuneups. Painful, painful tuneups. That or that Blue Robot on Garapon, which has fairly comparable stats and similarly high amounts of tuneup potential. I guess Crest Saint counts, too.

I just kinda wish there were more really good L-sized weapons for AIR (or rather, my Izuna).

>> No.5771280

>>5771171
have you tried the negatron rifle? It's pretty good for her.

>> No.5771434

>>5771280
I'll consider it once I bring my cash reserves high enough (gonna grind to rank 15 and do all ten treasure quests). I tried the M-size longer distance laser after getting killed by lasers like a billion times in the past, but I still do terrible damage, I can't really use it from long range (as expected), and now I cost like 200 more than my old Crimrose and always end up in negatives when I die. Also I run out of ammo all the time.

So, yeah. Near the end of the beta I rolled with Blitz Blaster/Bazooka Pacifar.

>> No.5773215

>>5770770
Whine to Tempura if you don't like it.

>> No.5773236 [DELETED] 

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>> No.5773502

>>5773215
Wasn't he the first faggot to use it?

>> No.5773669

>>5773502
Tempura is the GM damn it.

Zombie is the one you're talking about.

>> No.5773726

>>5773669
Which is the one who talks drunkenly about breasts again?

>> No.5773745

>>5773726
Gorilla.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJgbL5vV2Q

>> No.5773890

>>5773669 Tempura is the GM damn it.
I know. One of the GMs was the first to use the zombie build.

>> No.5773922

>>5773890
At least they didn't have those throwing cards back then.

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>> No.5775716

Goddamn I just got that map with the instant death pit across the center for the first time ever, who the fuck thought that map was a good idea? I died almost instantly and then the match also drags on forever with no one wanting to risk getting knocked off. Even without missiles everywhere, it's tricky to not slide right off the edge.

Really starting to question whether I should even bother to keep grinding or just go back to waiting on US OB2, ranking up to be able to do treasures is too damn slow. Arena matches with Japanese players seem to take a lot longer than in OB even when there isn't nonstop repairing.

At least things are going better now that I bought that much faster air bot; I tried out lasers though and I don't really like them compared to the wide beam gun, I wind up spending too much time just trying to stay in range, and you can't get in range at all if you're too high. Of course I wasn't dealing with many short boosters today, was more jikuns teleporting around and giving me the range problems.

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>> No.5778848

>>5775716
yeah it's a pretty bad map, but the sides have tunnels that you can access instead of having to go through mid.

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5779170

Man, the Sacrifice sub-plot is all kinds of silly.

Here's the animated portion with the nitty-gritty. The actual comic parts are just "what are you doing here crim" and "we must fight now".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkMfWYhTMNU

"Crim and Ivis were best friends and also test subjects. Why any sane parent would let children be experimented on like they were is beyond me. But OH NO Crim supposedly dies! And Ivis finds out that the supposedly-nice scientist just wanted to create killing machines from children but mostly ended up creating monsters, which is why Ivis has an shoulderpad-eye with a chain-rapier! Also Crim got sent to another dimension, went all Six Million Dollar Man, and became a robot that can go Super Saiyan! How this happened is not explained in any way. But OH NO Ivis is all wishy-washy about her love for Crim and eventually ends up attacking her because she feels really lonely and has built up like a million complexes from all the trauma!

But it's OK, because Crim goes Super Saiyan, beats up Ivis, and the two have many lesbian adventures!"

Also apparently Tesladonna has the same type of super-whatever cells that Crim has!

>> No.5779186

>>5779170
I'm fine with that.

>> No.5779212

>>5779186
Me too.

>> No.5779216

>september
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

>> No.5779221

What is the fastest way to grind for UC when my rank is still shit and I only have level 3 quests? Or maybe a way to grind my rank?

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>>5778848
The tunnels are pretty choke-tacular and full of bad camera angles, though. And the middle is one gigantic no-man's-land and super suicide for Air bots because of suppressive fire from Artillery. So I always just end up camping the power spot and farming power-ups, just like 99% of everybody on that map seems to do.

...I farm power-ups regardless, but, y'know.

I kinda wish that missiles were just super accurate against high-flyers (including Buridens/Seraphs from 10 miles up) and had stupidly-high stun rates/pretty good AOEs rather than lol 80 damage/hit. Then I guess you could see Land and Artillery working together. Granted I haven't thought this through at all.

But on a sadder and less theorycrafty note...

RIP Frog Lander, 5768-5770.
"There could only be one."

>> No.5779389

>>5779363
what's the deal with frog lander?

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>> No.5779437

>>5779170
>lesbian adventures
sounds like an awesome plot to me

>> No.5779498

>>5752205
with those calculations, it would take 92000 UC to have 50rt

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Every frog has their day.

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>>5779498
No. No. No. U is dum.

200 x 10 = 2000 UC
400 x 10 = 4000 UC
800 x 10 = 8000 UC
1600 x 10 = 16,000 UC
3200 x 10 = 32,000 UC

Add those up and you get 62,000 UC. But if you're canny, you'd skip the last 10 UC and roll Garapon instead. at least until it goes away. Odds say you'll probably have 10 Rt by the time you get through 32,000 UC, plus you can probably sell some of the stuff you get for more cashes and thus more rolls.

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>> No.5781156

I have 60K+ UC and 50Rt right now, and I'm not sure if I should exchange for the 10 extra Rt, or wait until the new exchange comes around.

I doubt the quests will be renewed in the next maintenance so it's gonna be grindy.

>> No.5781280

>>5781156
Well, the second exchange event will be lasting until mid-August. Dunno how long UC Garapon will be around for, but chances are you'd have a better effective exchange rate if you wait until the 29th and gamble it all away.

>> No.5781906
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All right, guys, here's a new Quest Guideline. You'll be able to complete all 10 Treasure Lists with this one. It requires you to be Rank 15 or higher and will give you up to 33,000 UC (of a possible 49,100 UC) in treasures.

There's no guarantees that it's the optimal path, but as information is lacking, this is the best route I could find.

>> No.5782018

Something's not right, I had the game crash on me several times since yesterday, which never happened in the beta.

The error log doesn't provide any help either, only something about Java being a piece of shit.

>> No.5782045

>>5782018
Also, I think I'm not the only one affected, as I've seen a lot of people drop out in the middle of arena.

>> No.5782311

I forget, but there was a bot that gets broad radar at lvl 1 or something. Anyone know which bot is it?

>> No.5782345
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>>5782311
Tesladonna. Maybe some others, but Tesla's all that comes to mind.

...

But seriously, game, please hand me something other than Missides.

>> No.5782420

>>5782345

I wish I had a misside just so I could have an art. I got several of each part, but no BDs

>> No.5782449

>>5782311
There's a few, actually. One UC support bot (Paraboroid) has it.

>> No.5784148

>>5782420 I wish I had a misside just so I could have an art.
You know you just but a Destructor or something.

>> No.5784396

>>5784148

I'm avoiding spending UC until I get bored with the UC garapon.

>> No.5784563

>>5784396
It's only 5000!

Or get a Victory-1, put Misside arms on it and equip two handy/micro bazookas.

>> No.5785203

God damn those baka gaijin ret/a/rds are such faggots. How do you guys tolerate the game with them?

>> No.5785224

Destrucor moves slow as shit, how does anyone deal with that?

>>5784563
Are Victory's core weapon any good? They sound like blast bazookas, which I loved.

>> No.5785365

>>5785203

Ignore them. You don't need to look at the chat much anyway so it's easy.

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what's this guy trying to say? He kept on harassing me afterwards since I couldn't understand him.

>> No.5785412

>>5785224
They pretty much are blast bazookas, they explode after a certain time from firing instead of disappearing.

Also, it has a mini long range unit as the default bit, which is pretty unique considering it's not a support.

I forgot it's M size though, so you can't use micro bazookas.

>> No.5785415

>>5785224
Your best bet is to sit back and spam missles, since you can't afford any of the necessary mobility/tune up parts.

Victory and victory-2 are great units considering the low cost, victory-2 is dependent on the map however.

>> No.5785711

From the comments on the JP wiki it seems that the SLX is also a good UC artillery with its built-in missiles.

Also, this is pretty useless, but if you put SLX arm on Lily it has an amusing side effect when firing (actually all body parts with built-in weapons have, but this one fires quickly).

>> No.5785821

I like how the only support units with decent bits are the UC ones.

>> No.5785986

>>5785391
制限部屋 are the rank restricted rooms, so I'm guessing something like "GTFO back there".

As an aside, from what I gathered from the CB threads on 2ch this clan is full of faggots.

>> No.5786015

>>5785986
mm, thanks. This ninja guy decided to friend me and then unfriend me. What a twit.

>> No.5786864

>from what I gathered from the CB threads on 2ch this clan is full of faggots.

Are you sure they aren't talking about BakaGaijin? I'm surprised they would even know who we are. There are only about 5 active players.

>> No.5786864,1 [INTERNAL] 

BUMP

>> No.5786864,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>5786864,1
Why in the fuck would you bump this?

Besides, no one cares about that terrible flavor-of-the-month MMO anymore.

>> No.5786864,3 [INTERNAL] 

I'm too busy enjoying Mabinogi Heroes. Fuck all other MMOs.

>> No.5786864,4 [INTERNAL] 

Every MUD I came across had a set age of 18 and I wanted to play a little girl. Fuck all online games.

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