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So she never actually existed?

>> No.5681970 [DELETED] 

Reported.

>> No.5681969

I thought we already determined that

>> No.5681973

An Umineko thread? No, there's two on the first page.

>> No.5681975

She's Jessica.

>> No.5681992
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>>5681975

>> No.5682014

Why is everyone suspicious about Moon-chan?

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>>5681992

>> No.5682069

All trolling aside, Beatrice the elder could indeed have been Jessica.

Remember, this is from Sayo's warped mind. What she thinks of as magic we can just think of as two girls committing pranks.

This would also explain why Jessica shushes Kumasawa in episode two. Mainly, because she was going to bring up an embarassing anecdote about Jessica pulling pranks. Do recall that Natsuhi punished her quite frequently for silly behavior as a child.

>> No.5682127

If it's not Jessica I don't see who else it could possibly be. Moe Beato is Shannon and Kumasawa is Virgilia. Jessica has also been on the island her entire life and I could see her playing pranks. Probably also heard about the Akujikishima legends from Kumasawa. Also who else would have given Shannon the brooch?

>> No.5682148

>>5682127
There's also the fact that Beato the elder is very much like Jessica.

The issue we have here is that while Jessica grew out of the Beatrice thing, Sayo kinda.... sorta.... went overboard with it.

Oh! It also would explain how Jessica could be coersed to appearing as Beatrice in episode 4, I suppose. She had prior experience.

>> No.5682200

>>5682127
>>5682069
Beatrice the Elder doesn't correspond to a person. The episode makes that clear. She's the phenomenal Beatrice - the witch of the forest, the witch of the portrait and the witch of the legend - the imaginary figure on whom the human Beatrices (Shannon, as well as the one Rosa met) were styling themselves.

My question is that if "the final form of the witch as sealed away by Kinzo" means that it's this Beatrice about whom Kinzo's always shown pining, then doesn't it mean that his waifu was really a waifu - that she never had a basis in a real person?

>> No.5682312

I don't mean to be late to the party but I've been wondering. Why is Shannon the only person to have the One-winged Eagle tattooed on her body rather than wearing it on her clothes?

>> No.5682367

>>5682312
So she can go around showing her legs. And Beatrice also has it. Maybe its meant to be a connection.

>> No.5682398

>>5682312
Because she's the only one slutty enough to show off enough skin to see it.

>> No.5682408

>>5682200

I agree that that is a likely interpretation.

However, we can use it as a basis for Jessitrice, if we look at it in a certain context.

>> No.5682414

>>5682367

Beato's is on the other leg, though, isn't it?

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>>5682408
Murder by Jessica's body is not possible.
So even if Beatrice took hold of Jessica she still cant do it.
This scene is likely foreshadowing Beatrice for being the 3rd personality of the samefaggotry.

>> No.5682439

>>5682200
That's your question? Sorry, but, if that theory is true, there is a more important one: where did Kinzo get his gold and why does he attribute the act to a woman that never existed?

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>>5682427
Just because you can't see someone doesn't mean you can't willfully kill them. That just makes it harder (for most people).

>> No.5682466

>>5682439
http://umineko.wikia.com/wiki/TIPS/A_Certain_Witch_Hunter%27s_Interview_Tape

Have you read this?

>> No.5682476

>>5682461
>murder was impossible for her
Please learn to read or are we disregarding red text now because we want to deny shkanon?

>> No.5682522

>>5682476
I wasn't even talking about Shkanon; I was directly addressing what I've seen a a terribly pigeon-holed Red Truth. So, anyway, if not murder, what about some method of manslaughter?

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>>5682522
Dude what

>> No.5682566

>>5682466
I thought Kinzo got that Russian gold that disappeared during WWII.

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