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5635369 No.5635369 [Reply] [Original]

http://www.minori.ph/

Minori put up an e-mail they sent nnl now as part of their website for foreigners

Feeding a bunch of attention whoring trolls seems like a great idea towards getting them to stop distributing their games.

>> No.5635388

AHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.5635398

>>5635369
>page for foreigners
>90% of it is Japanese

>> No.5635421

私たちは作品を作るために莫大なお金や長い時間を掛け、そして、自らの命
を賭しています。貴方たちはそうした多くの犠牲の中から生まれてくる、
いわば、私たちの努力の結晶を、貴方たちの快楽といった身勝手な理由で
壊そうとしています。

I just love how dramatic they make it sound.

>> No.5635447

I'm sure Gipface is feeling a sense of accomplishment for getting minori to write this.

>> No.5635460

>>5635421
really, wow.

>> No.5635498

>>5635421
Minari has autism.

>> No.5635500

Who's a bigger drama queen though, NNL or minori?

>> No.5635522

rofl good job nnl

>> No.5635550

I wonder how will NNL react.

>> No.5635552

So what's this all about? This new email I mean not the whole minori deal.

>> No.5635573

>>5635552
minori is butthurt about same shit, as always

>> No.5635581

>>5635552
Minori being overly retarded, go, read the e-mail, even if you can't translate a machine translator will probably give you a few laughs.

>> No.5635596

>>5635369
>ef
Who cares exactly?

>> No.5635604

>>5635573
>>5635581
Well I think I get the gist of it now but at first I thought the OP was saying NNL's site is minori's new website for foreigners.

>> No.5635650 [DELETED] 

What's the
>3.「天使の日曜日」を翻訳したものを、私たちの許可無く不特定多数に頒
布しないこと。

>> No.5635658

>>5635650
don't translate and publish our new game named 天使の日曜日

>> No.5635670

What does the e-mail says exactly?

>> No.5635675

>>5635658
I accidently posted it before finishing what I was asking.

I understood the part about their new game, but I'm not sure what game 天使の日曜日 is exactly. Machine Translators give me "Angel Sunday", but I'm pretty sure that's inccorect.

>> No.5635684

>>5635675
It's the new fandisc for Ef that's coming out

>> No.5635686

>>5635675
Angel's sunday

>> No.5635687

>>5635670
>we put our life on the line to make eroge, it's a crystallization of our efforts and sacrifices and you destroy it for your own egotistical pleasure
it's the bit that gets posted the most. They mad

>> No.5635694

lol

Why are they trying to revive drama from 2 months ago, exactly?

>> No.5635701

hey guys I've got an awesome idea
let's keep translating their new games, I bet it's even a pretty good game

>> No.5635704

>>5635694
japanese game for japanese people onry

>> No.5635708

>>5635694
Probably because nnl just put up their Eden page ( http://nnl1.com/eden/ ), and after seeing ef be released, minori doesn't want to see another title released by nnl.

>> No.5635710

Minori is fucking retarded

>> No.5635741

its kind of funny that nnl was like the biggest faggot with their break the support disc

now they gone all pirate with minori

>> No.5635760

Fuck minori.

>> No.5635771

It is funny that the world would be a better place for everyone if feminists were gathered in concentration camps.

>> No.5635788

>私たちのオフィスにいらして、ライセンス許諾のための交渉をすること
は可能です

Can you imagine if someone actually showed up at minori's offices claiming to be from NNL and wanting to negotiate? I wonder how long it would take them to call the cops.

>> No.5635797

>>5635788
No, I can't imagine retarded kids stepping into minori's offices.

>> No.5635806

They must be really bored or don't have a life. Why don't they just go and make some games.

>> No.5635817

are their games on usenet anyways?

would be pretty funny if they try to remove them from usenet

>> No.5635837

>>5635771
You, sir, are fucking stupid.

>> No.5635841

>Therefore, We prohibited the access from overseas to defend our culture.

What the fuck is going on in here?

>> No.5635842

>そして、自らの命
を賭しています
>>5635421
Not exaggerating at all, oh no.

>> No.5635844

>>5635817
They are.

>> No.5635850

>>5635806
This. Seriously, make some more games so NNL can translate them.

>> No.5635865

As much as minori is getting angry about the ef~ and eden translation projects, they have no evidence of either besides the few images on NNL's site.

>> No.5635963

Can't wait to see how NNL reacts to this.

>> No.5636041

Transration prease.

>> No.5636110

>>5636041
Learn Japanese.
Oh wait, you're probably interested in a TL group trolling because you don't know it

>> No.5636125

Straight machine translation from Google Translate:

Our July 12, 2010 NO NAME LOSERS you have received an email the next.

Dear NO NAME LOSERS

We are please e-mail before,
Gotten that we accept who you wish,
I very sorry.

That we produced and sold you their "ef - the first tale.", "Ef - the latter tale." For PS2 and "ef - fairy tale of the two." (Below, "ef" and collectively, a) and "eden *", we translated into English and other software, without permission in our public acts are illegal and violate the right of public transmission right of translation of copyright law to ratify international mutual .

We have already launched "ef" to translate for you without their permission, yet graphic, audio, video, music, launched through a network for an unspecified number and all other content, distribution of pirated for the same act, it is violating the rights and privileges that only us. The "eden *" and that will be available in Japan in September we "Sunday of Angels" We notice that the act of distribution for an unspecified number of translations, also illegal none other than. Or to provide an unspecified number of software starts by itself I think is particularly damaging to the rights acquired all of us as the creator?

You who would you come to our fans, we are your only actions they hurt us, and I think fans are hard to say.

cont...

>> No.5636132

We thank you all of the following you guys.

1. "Ef" a translation of the work associated with it and not to distribute an unspecified number without our permission.
2. "Eden *" to a translation, and not to distribute an unspecified number without our permission.
3. "Angel's Sunday" was a translation, in a place not distribute without our permission.
4. In addition, the same for all the work we have launched in the past, not to distribute an unspecified number of those translations without our permission.
5. Will work the same for all of us to release, not to distribute an unspecified number of a translation without our permission.
6. Beyond the scope of fair use rights and quoted on our Web images and do not quote without permission from the site and work.

We hung a long time to make a lot of money and work and have risked their own lives. You guys are born out of many such victims, so to speak, the crystals of our efforts, we have reason to break their selfish pleasures, such as you.

If you are really our "minori" fan, and, if it hopes to continue the works we now please stop the illegal activity shut whether our future. Thank you repeatedly.

July 12, 2010
Minori, Inc.

PS 1: If you receive an official license from us who you are, such as ratings, reportedly decided to ask us, if you expect to sell or distribute the English-speaking, have come to our office can negotiate for a license is possible. We hope that the formal steps, to helping people.

PS 2: The content of this email will be published on the Web site minori.

>> No.5636131 [DELETED] 

>>5635366

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5636152

>We hung a long time to make a lot of money and work and have risked their own lives. You guys are born out of many such victims, so to speak, the crystals of our efforts, we have reason to break their selfish pleasures, such as you.

>> No.5636189
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5636189

>We hung a long time to make a lot of money and work and have risked their own lives. You guys are born out of many such victims, so to speak, the crystals of our efforts, we have reason to break their selfish pleasures, such as you.

>> No.5636247

>We hung a long time to make a lot of money and work and have risked their own lives. You guys are born out of many such victims, so to speak, the crystals of our efforts, we have reason to break their selfish pleasures, such as you.
How dramatic.

>> No.5636274

Man, they justify NNL trolling then ... hell, they justify Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

>> No.5636288

I lol'd.

>> No.5636316

can we get a non-engrish translation

>> No.5636336

>>5636125
>>5636132
Lol machine translations.
I gave translating it a go myself, rest will follow in about 5-10 minutes when I finish translating. It's pretty bad, but I think it gets the gist across. ( I hope Minori aren't going to try and sue me for translating this)
-----------------------
To everyone at No Name Losers,

You have not accepted our requests made in previous mails. We think that this is exceedingly unfortunate.
You have translated into English without our permission and offered to the public our works 「ef - the first tale.」、「ef - the latter tale.」,PSP2 version「ef - fairy tale of the two.」（referred to as ef,「eden*」and other works, which is illegal with respect to both our Copyright act that was collectively ratified by other nations as well as our distribution rights.

You have transmitted to countless numbers of people over through the network our previously released work "ef", our graphics, voices, pictures and music and everything else, violating our exclusive rights over this. In addition, you have promised to translate eden, and our release of "Angel's Sunday" planned for this September, and distribute them to countless people, which is nothing but an illegal act. The act of offering an independent functioning version of the software to countless people is a violation of the rights we have as producers, isn't it?
You call yourselves our fans, but we find it hard to speak of you as fans when your actions do nothing but hurt us.

We wish you to obey the following requests:

>> No.5636337 [DELETED] 

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>> No.5636343

>>5636336
Well, they do not actually transfer the game, but their SUPAHinstaller has copyrighted content outside of text.

>> No.5636344
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5636344

>> No.5636361

>>5636336
Minori only sells their game in Japan and publicly outs foreigners

Now they're angry about people downloading it outside japan

Bunch of egotistical faggots out there.

>> No.5636440

>>5636336
Thanks for the work so far.

>> No.5636454 [DELETED] 

>>5636336

1. Stop distributing your translation of ef and related works to countless people without our permission.
2. Do not translate and distribute Eden to countless people without our permission.
3. Do not translate and distribute Angel's Sunday to countless people without our permission.
3. Do not translate and distribute any other of our past works to countless people without our permission.
5. Do not translate and distribute to countless people any other works we release in the future in the same manner.
6. Do not use images from our games and websites without our permission beyond that allowed by fair use and quotation rights.

We use enormous amounts of money and spend a long time to produce our games, and furthermore risk our own lives to do so.
You people wreck the crystallisation of all our efforts for your own selfish pleasure, creating many victims in the process.
If there are any amongst you who are truly fans of "minor", and hope for us to carry on producing works in the future, please please stop illegal acts which our destroying our future.

July 12th, 2010
Minory corporation

P.S. If you managed to receive our official license, rating, went through the process that we desired, and were able to distribute them to the English speaking world, it is possible for you to come to our office and negotiate for our license and approval. We hope for you to start following our official procedures.

P.P.S This mail is open for public viewing on our website. ---------------------------
There were a couple of places where I wasn't completely certain of meaning, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were mistakes, but here you go.

>> No.5636463

>>5636336

1. Stop distributing your translation of ef and related works to countless people without our permission.
2. Do not translate and distribute Eden to countless people without our permission.
3. Do not translate and distribute Angel's Sunday to countless people without our permission.
3. Do not translate and distribute any other of our past works to countless people without our permission.
5. Do not translate and distribute to countless people any other works we release in the future in the same manner.
6. Do not use images from our games and websites without our permission beyond that allowed by fair use and quotation rights.

We use enormous amounts of money and spend a long time to produce our games, and furthermore risk our own lives to do so.
You people wreck the crystallisation of all our efforts for your own selfish pleasure, creating many victims in the process.
If there are any amongst you who are truly fans of "minor", and hope for us to carry on producing works in the future, please please stop illegal acts which our destroying our future.

July 12th, 2010
Minori corporation

P.S. If you managed to receive our official license, rating, went through the process that we desired, and were able to distribute them to the English speaking world, it is possible for you to come to our office and negotiate for our license and approval. We hope for you to start following our official procedures.

P.P.S This mail is open for public viewing on our website.
---------------------------
There were a couple of places where I wasn't completely certain of meaning, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were mistakes, but here you go.

>> No.5636473

i live in a overseas

>> No.5636492

As to why people bother with minori's mediocre moetarded games is beyond me. If it was people like Alicesoft or Elf I would understand, but these nobodies sure like to show off e-penis.

>> No.5636514

>>5636492
Because we love seeing them cry about it.

>> No.5636525

>furthermore risk our own lives to do so.
How? The only thing I could think of is death from overwork. Then again, they're being over dramatic.

>> No.5636543

>>5636525
Working in a niche market is not easy. They probably fear being unemployed and starving to death if their rape games don't earn them money.

>> No.5636548

>>5636525
Probably a bad translation... "Devote our own lives" would make more sense, or something like that.

>> No.5636599

>>5636548
Doesn't seem like it to me. In context that kanji can only be read as risking or staking, as far as I can tell. More generally it can mean bet or gamble, but I'm pretty sure they are claiming to be risking their lives to produce these games. Alternatively "staking our lives on these games", but that has pretty much the same meaning.
そして、自らの命を賭しています
Is the relevant line.

>> No.5636624

LOL

>> No.5636922

At least now I understand why ef was so over dramatic.

>> No.5636977

Oh minori never change.

>> No.5637082

So what are these ef games about? if there's so much drama about them maybe it means they're pretty good. i'm interested in playing them, gonna download it

>> No.5637097

>>5637082
If you pirate minori games you are a muderer.

>> No.5637125

>>5636599
Fuckin' colloquialisms! How do they work?

>> No.5637153

arrr, them tiny yellow landlubbers from that small island can shiver mi timbers

>> No.5637448

>>5637097
I accidentally 3 eroge today. Is this bad?

>> No.5639312

I laughed very hard.

<GOOD JOB> Minori!

>> No.5639359

I lol'd hard.

>> No.5639708

>>5636152
>>5636189
>>5636247
making eroge is like going to war

>> No.5639739

Eroge makers use alchemy to create your waifu.
It can get dangerous.

>> No.5639770 [DELETED] 

The first thing I see on the page is NO NAME LOSERS

Is that supposed to be us?

>> No.5639821

Looks like I gueesed right. Music of your Life did turn out to be Eden. NNL are truly worthy of being the Minoridevs.

>> No.5639856

They are probably refering to the old grannies that want ban loli forever and jail all the eroge makers in Japan.

You know, Unicef, Agnes, etc.

>> No.5639930

Hmmmm, is this a reason to be worried?

Maybe it'll sparkle some kind of war or something. Or maybe the war already began when that random faggot reported all the translation projects.

>> No.5639959

>>5639930
Not for now, at least.

>> No.5640074

>>5636336
>In addition, you have promised to translate eden, and our release of "Angel's Sunday" planned for this September

>Angel's Sunday
Is this true?

>> No.5640095

>>5639821
I think everyone thought it was eden.

>>5640074
Yeah.

>> No.5640218

>and furthermore risk our own lives to do so.

Minori can be decapitated because of making games for a niche market or something?

>> No.5640247

Minori and NNL deserve each other.

>> No.5640275

It's a match made in heaven.

The biggest jackasses in eroge in all of Japan are paired with the biggest trolls in all of Western translation.

>> No.5640310

>>5640247
My OTP.

>> No.5640316
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5640316

>inochi wo kake
Dear lord.

>> No.5640415

But...are their eroges worthy of this drama?

>> No.5640435

>>5640415
No, they suck.

And that's the joke.

>> No.5640535

http://novelnews.net/2010/07/12/minori-sends-another-email-to-nnl/

>> No.5640835

This is fucking awesome.

>> No.5640907

>P.S.: If you wish to obtain an official license from us, handle the ratings issue, follow our requested procedures and sell and/or distribute [our software] within English-speaking circles, then there is the possibility of your visiting our office and discussing with us a license agreement. We would look forward to people following the proper procedure for getting things done.

HEY NNL! This is your fucking chance! Team up with Jast/Mangagamer!

>> No.5640920

>>5640907
They won't get minori games rated though, so minori wouldn't be interested.

>> No.5641030

>>5640907
As if it's NNL's job to help increase minori's bottom line. All NNL should be concerned about is getting the games in English, and doing it themselves is just so much easier with all the crap that's going on.

>> No.5641059

Fuck Minori. If they want to be a big organization with lots of money, they'll have to accept that there are dishonest people out there. I mean, look at ZUN. His games are popular BECAUSE they don't have any rights or policies to them.
Even if they cut out the foreigners, there are still dishonest people within japan that pirate their games, so the ratio of their honest customers vs pirates remains the same.
The only thing with this whole "foreign block" policy does is doing is making them loose money. Pirates don't make them loose money, so it doesn't make a difference if they're there to steal or not. Cutting potential customers will.

>> No.5642150

This thread is a waste of time. There's no need to bother respecting a bunch of idiots like this. They act as if we should care about them rather than what they make.

>> No.5642178

>>5642150
This thread is good humour.

>> No.5642897

bump for win

>> No.5643511

These guys are good for a good laugh. I am pretty sure they are black van asshats and are going around trying to stir up other game companies. It would be nice to track down the fuck that outed all the people who have got C&Ded.

>> No.5643561

Since when is nnl working on Eden?

>> No.5643579

>>5643561
since they revealed music of your destiny was eden*.
Also they did the prologue patch and all.

>> No.5643580 [DELETED] 

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>> No.5643583

>>5643579
When did this happen?

>> No.5643596

>>5643583
a week ago? more or less?

>> No.5643603

>>5643596
Must have missed that. Any news on what Swells is supposed to be?

>> No.5643637

>>5643603
mashiro iro symphony? judging by the text blocks
>Swells status: Act 1 - 11209/11209 text blocks (editing)
That's the act1, it had like 50000 lines.

>> No.5645549

Still waiting on nnl's response.

>> No.5646229

>>5643583
I think they revealed eden* on the 6th and made the project page on the 9th. They translated the demo and released that on April 1st. (which most people didn't bother getting because they thought it was a troll)

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