/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Starting a IaMP if anyone wants to join. I can host but probably won't be very good with my upload.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55829
Suika's cuteness is extraordinary.

[Anonymous No.]

Anybody wanna try SWR against a California fag?

66.215.55.98

[E-mouse !LNaFATMuso No.]

>>57019
Ahahahah, clearly I don't. Hope that was a decent warmup for you.

[E-mouse !LNaFATMuso No.]

Well, both of you can read up at http://iamp.mizuumi.net/index.php/Main_Page in the meantime.

[swedish !0DfXJZmCJ6 No.]

Well that was fun, albeit a big laggy.

Anybody else wish to play the SWR with me?

66.215.55.98 (California)

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>57683
I need to learn to play having watched alot of Meiling combo movies I can only perform one.

<---- Also.

[swedish !0DfXJZmCJ6 No.]

GG Garlic Wall. I've had enough for now, gonna take a nap.

More people need to play SWR with me, except it's only a demo with four playable characters. Stupid Tasogare, hurry up and release SWR.

[Anonymous No.]

There some people who clearly played this game for a long long time!

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

62.78.183.126

[Anonymous No.]

Normal Player
189.50.96.50
3 games~

[swedish !0DfXJZmCJ6 No.]

>>57982

OH GOD KELREY, DOLLS EVERYWHERE

gg, gotta take a nap. I've been up for almost 24 hours now, I'm bloodshot.

[Anonymous No.]

Alice with a bunch of bad habits and a flawed corner pressure
Youmu with who bum rushes into chip hits and button mashes into some lucky combos
Clueless Yuyuko

24.177.242.247

US East.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58968
>>Clueless Yuyuko
I'm not interested in playing, but that sounds like my kind of Yuyuko to me.

[Anonymous No.]

71.162.131.216
US East Coast.

[Anonymous No.]

Everytime I see an IaMP thread, I mourn that Tasogare hasn't said anything about SWR's release yet.

[Anonymous No.]

age

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>56112
Still interested? I have 71.162.131.216
up hosting now

[Anonymous No.]

what is IaMP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56150
Immaterial and Missing Power or Touhou 7.5 fightan game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56150

http://www.pooshlmer.com/touhouwiki/index.php/Immaterial_and_Missing_Power

[⑨‮oykosneG fo suomynonA &#44;onriC ‪‪‪‬ !mOWjKAWAII No.]

Okay, so I haven't actually tried this one out, and now I want to. Is it translated?

If not, does it need to be? And either way, where can I get it?

(Rapidsearch has split links, I hate that)

[Anonymous No.]

>>56301

http://www.doujinstyle.com/touhougames.php

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>56301
I'm disappointed in you Cirno.

http://www.doujinstyle.com/touhou/immaterialandmissingpower.php

Go go download it.

[⑨‮oykosneG fo suomynonA &#44;onriC ‪‪‪‬ !mOWjKAWAII No.]

>>56318
>>56326
Wasn't this site down a while ago, or have I lost my god damn mind?

Thanks though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56301
I'm not sure if there is an existing English patch, but you can get a torrent for Touhou Suimusou off Isohunt.com. After that just read http://iamp.mizuumi.net/index.php/Main_Page for more stuffs on netplay and character unlocks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>55854
I'm back, still hosting as 71.162.131.216.

I'm so bored :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>56442
Gah something wrong with my host, whoever that connected to me, can you try hosting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>56494

78.92.152.1

[Anonymous No.]

>>56509
Lol, I figured out what was wrong. I had to switch back to JP caster instead of CowCaster.

[⑨‮oykosneG fo suomynonA &#44;onriC ‪‪‪‬ !mOWjKAWAII No.]

No idea how this plays.

I am good at Samurai Shodown, and Marvel vs Capcom.

2 extremes as far as fighting games go. Let's hope I'm decent at this one.

[Lev No.]

>>56442
Yay for spectate option.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56652
Suika is just too fun to play.

[Lev No.]

C'mon, China! Don't lose to that half-ghost

[Anonymous No.]

lol GG on yuyuko vs Marisa

[Lev No.]

Well whatever, I'll try playing Anonymous at this game.

99.249.249.71

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>56711
83.27.127.12

Hosting!

[Anonymous No.]

>>56807

40 FPS fuck yeah!

[Anonymous No.]

>>56509
Lol GG I'm gonna play meirin now ;D

[Anonymous No.]

>>56784
Lol What coast are you in Meirin?

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>56828
Forgot to add I'm a Eurofag. Try hosting it. We'll see how it is on your end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56835
Alright, 71.162.131.216

[Anonymous No.]

>>55829
Upload is irrelevant to hosting. Once you connect, all lag is bidirectional, so both users get the same amount of load. But that's not a big deal, since Caster uses a small enough amount of bandwidth that you actually can play on a modem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56835
Try forwarding UDP 7500 port in your router, I think my upload is pretty bad :/

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

It's still crap. Damnit ;__;

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone up for some SWR?

84.65.116.40 EU.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56852
Lol I'm gonna reset my net brb.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

Slow motion matches are the shit!

[Anonymous No.]

>>56877
back, same IP still :<. I never had that much lag in the games before.

Guess the Atlantic Ocean does makes a difference.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>56901
Now all I'm getting are timeouts. Curse you Earth why must you be so large.

[Anonymous No.]

A constant sub-60fps usually means someone set the delay value too low.

If you're using CowCaster it should recommend a useable delay value.

[Anonymous No.]

This is pretty hilarious to watch.

[Anonymous No.]

Lol was that the same Meirin?

[Lev No.]

Damn you anonymous!
Damn you and your juggling combos!

Isn't it so sad, Alice...

[Anonymous No.]

So, how about some play from someone who actually knows how to?

Hosting at 64.91.113.5 from west coast USA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57015
Anonymous does not forgi... Ah, whatever.
Good games.

[Lev No.]

>>57022
You too, even though I probably wasn't much of a fight. Still I can't believe I lost to Meirin and her sort-of-working frame traps. I need to bomb more to get out of those situations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>56955

Oh whoops, I accidently exited after four matches.

Someone please come back. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>56955
Good games.

At least I don't get beaten as badly in SWR than I do in IaMP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57041
That's because there's no one, and I mean NO ONE, in the English speaking community who actually bothers to play the game correctly, since the game just kind of breaks down pretty fast beyond basic levels of skill.

[Anonymous No.]

That was pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.]

China kicked my ass.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't understand the combo system in this game at all or how to use any spellcards except the first one

[⑨‮oykosneG fo suomynonA &#44;onriC ‪‪‪‬ !mOWjKAWAII No.]

>>57130
Look on the bright side: You know more than me. My download is currently at 90%

Doesn't that make you feel better?

[Anonymous No.]

Lol Meirin's combos make me cry :(

[Anonymous No.]

Isn't there an patch to update the game?? Where can I get it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57145
My download is at 77% ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>57197

http://www.tasofro.net/touhou/download.html

[Anonymous No.]

what do people normally play IaMP with. Controllers or Keyboard?

[Anonymous No.]

I can't even beat the computer without spamming the same move over and over.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

Good matches. Won by luck but hell it was a lot of fun.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>57211
Keyboard for me.

[Anonymous No.]

Before I start it up, do you need a patch for netplay, or is the feature included?

[Anonymous No.]

>>57255
Lol yea I came close, but couldn't win still with any characters.

You must play on Meiling a lot.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

If you're planning to play you'll need this also.

http://efz.proboards36.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=print&thread=1143166699

[Anonymous No.]

>>57263

http://efz.proboards36.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=print&thread=1143166699

[Anonymous No.]

>>57145
yeah I guess so

[Anonymous No.]

>>57145
Too bad you can't play as Cirno in this game. :<

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>57280
He would be THE STRONGEST then.

[E-mouse !LNaFATMuso No.]

There is a Cirno recolor somewhere in the most recent Cowcaster, but I haven't played around with color settings much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57282
My hand is numb from that beating; play someone so I can watch, China. ;D

[Anonymous No.]

>>57039
Again, good games.

I'm showing some sign of improvement, I think I'll go mess around with my spellcard deck.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm up for some PoFV, since I've yet to play that online yet.

84.65.116.40
EU

[Anonymous No.]

Hokay, that's enough for me, heh, to whoever Anonymous was. The lag was getting pretty bad there that last match. (Ate my 22a at the end of the second round! baaaah)

Not bad, though. Don't fall for a lot of tricks that new players fall into.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57333

78.92.154.76
EU

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know what to do with this online patch

[Anonymous No.]

>>57354
Yeah, this is my 4th or so time playing a real human, so I'm not quite used to human strategies and whatnot. Good games, though. I've learned a good bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57371
Extract the exe files to Suimusou directory and run.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

83.27.127.12 Hosting (EU)!

[Anonymous No.]

>>57380
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>57369
Definitely not bad at all then, if you're that new.

You might try some of the #iamp crew if you're looking for some competition. There's quite a wide variety of players there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57211
Controller here.

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu Column is so bad it's funny. I like how it can be punished even if airblocked.

Orb is pretty much the only real choice for her first level spellcard since it combos off of quite literally everything except 5a and is not punishable.

[Anonymous No.]

YKT.

[Anonymous No.]

how does I connect

[Anonymous No.]

The only people who will tell you this are people who are either not experienced with fighters or are not experienced with SFA3. But since this comes up A LOT, I may as well describe the reasoning behind it. SFIII3 has a lot more casual appeal. It's a lot easier to 'pick up and play', overall. But it dumbs down the game to do it. Let's refer to a tourney finals match, from one of the two SFIII3 tourneys, here to make the point.

(insert Youtube link here)

On the surface, it looks pretty good. There appears to be mindgames going on, there appears to be some fairly intricate movement. But this is mostly a joke. If you look carefuly, you'll see that the game basically devolves to:

- Dash around like crazy until someone blocks something.
- The one that landed the blocked blow does a strong pressure string, that is very difficult to escape.
- Pressure string ends with either a good read and a border escape(-1 super temporarily, jump straight up, can be punished if read) or when the offender's super bar gets low.
- In Ken's case, his stuff can be backdashed midscreen, so he's at a disadvantage in this case. Doesn't matter since it's Uehara playing there, and he's a living god of mindreading, but hey. Chun Li's, obviously, are a lot tighter and harder to get out of.

The mindgame essentially becomes "maybe it's better to get hit by this than it is to block it," because pressure is very strong when it does land and much harder to get out of. Does this sound good to you?

Essentially, SFIII3 is a very shallow game that doesn't work very well beyond casual/basic levels of play, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a skilled fighting game player who will tell you to do anything but avoid it in its current state.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57570
For IaMP or SWR, run Caster and then #2 on the menu connects to another player. #3 to watch(you might get disconnected occasionally, don't worry about it), #1 to host.

[Hong Meiling 門門 !!CkFE91f1n9T No.]

>>57670
So moe I died when you crouched.

[Anonymous No.]

Lol Yuyuko moves so slow, such a fatty.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57679
Lol I love how my matches with you are supper close in the end, especially on Raymoo and Youmoo >.>

[Anonymous No.]

>>57670
Yuyuko actually has the fastest ground dash in the game if you restart the dash over and over rather than just hold it, and her horizontal movement in the air is on par with everyone else's. She's just... Really, really, really floaty. Since she works best closer to the ground this is a problem.

A common tactic when someone's sufficiently afraid of you is 5a 5a dash 5a 5a... etc. 5a is advantageous on block, so if you time it right the opponent won't be able to do crap other than shit stars out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57691
Meiling's combos seems fun and easy, but I always get caught in them.

Also I abused Raymoo's cheat warp alot if you haven't noticed lol. Probably my best char up to date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57691
it was amusing for the first three times. Stop it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57361

Albeit slow, good game. I had to make do with another netplay patch since I can't get the supposedly better one to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57706
Eh, I know I suck.

Good game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57706
SRW being a demo so far is what keeping me from playing. Although a flying Raymoo is tempting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHi6lW_7F_4&feature=related

[Anonymous No.]

too bad there are no emulators with online capabiities, I'd love to play KOF 02 and KOF XI online

[Anonymous No.]

I have some time to kill if anyone need a host or challenger. Post some Ip.

Mine > 71.162.131.216.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>61953
Say WHAT!? Name one to download it now, might just plug back my X-Arcade!

[Anonymous No.]

What ports am I supposed to use?

[Anonymous No.]

62.78.183.126 hosting in EU
3 games if over 6-10 delay but I can play more if it's low delay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57860
Caster is port 7500.

[Anonymous No.]

>>57887
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

To the Patchy player, are you in EU too?

[Anonymous No.]

skimmed through and people talked about hisouten

hosting it now: 69.235.10.35

[Anonymous No.]

>>57831

Worst game ever, lol'd like 10 times

[Anonymous No.]

>>58019
Lol was kinda laggy >.>

[Anonymous No.]

ggs.
again: 62.78.183.126 hosting in EU
3 games if over 6-10 delay but I can play more if it's low delay.

[Anonymous No.]

whenever I connect and the game opens it closes like a second later how do I fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

ggs.
again more (last): 62.78.183.126 hosting in EU
3 games if over 6-10 delay but I can play more if it's low delay.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58093
http://iamp.mizuumi.net/index.php/Netplay

[Anonymous No.]

>>58106
hey, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>58101
Over.
If you want more matches, come over to #iamp on irc.mizuumi.net, there's lots of players with varying skill levels from US and EU.

[Anonymous No.]

71.162.131.216 here, I'm up again.

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

189.155.84.158

Anyone still want to play? Im a remiliafag.

[Anonymous No.]

Shitty alice here

24.177.242.247

US East

[Anonymous No.]

>>58289
Alice from last night?

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

lol computer crash.

NOW I CAN PLAY

189.155.84.158

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

>>62564

awwrghjbhdsf.

you host then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58289

Baww

[Anonymous No.]

>>58334

Yup

[Kelrey No.]

still looking for hisouten players...

69.235.10.35

[Anonymous No.]

>alice's hitboxes are all wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>58409
Just got my demo installed, gonna patch up and brt. I'll be noob at it though since It will be first time lol.

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

well, I got cowcaster now, trying to host on

189.155.84.158 but I dont trust my IP.

If anyone is trying to connect and cant, post their IP, the other day I could connect, but not host.

[Kelrey No.]

71.162.131.216

why the lag?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58489
From East Coast US, you?

[Kelrey No.]

i'm a california fag

[Kelrey No.]

i think you need to patch the game if it crashes upon starting

[Anonymous No.]

>>58503
lol I got d3dx9_33.dll not found error. :(

[Anonymous No.]

>>58550
http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?d3dx9_33

[Anonymous No.]

Haha, last opponent. Those were some tense "what the fuck do I do now?" fights.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58572
Sweet, Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.]

I know what the IP is, but what is the target port? Is that part of the IP adress?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58664
7500

[Anonymous No.]

>>58664
Hit 2 to access the UDP 7500 port (make sure you have it forwarded if you are hosting), then type in IP.

[Anonymous No.]

76.167.57.53

Beginning Sakuya player

[Magister No.]

Hi. I can't play IaMP, and you would probably just beat me into the Gensoukyou dirt anyway, so is anyone interested in playing SWR? I'm a Reimufag.

Also, you'll have to host, as I haven't gone through the trouble of figuring out how to unblock my ports.

[Magister No.]

>>63150
I think I went longer than that just trying to unlock all the Last Words in Imperishable Night.

[Anonymous No.]

anyone doing swr

[Magister No.]

>>63239
Yeah, sure. Best thing I can usually do. Host, please.

[Anonymous No.]

>>58968
OP here, GG Alice, I'm the guy that always use Raymoo, Youmu and Suika btw ;D

[Anonymous No.]

>>59067

I wasn't kidding about the clueless Yuyuko part. For some reason I was hell bent on getting advantage on those air slams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>59084
At least I got a bit better lol, you slaughtered me last night 3-0 with Alice alone.

[Anonymous No.]

swr 76.188.105.98

im not that great

[Anonymous No.]

>>59101

Might be a different Alice. If you see him do 24[x] effectively, then it's not me.

[Anonymous No.]

Error: Caster Header Check (command version / games)

What does this mean? And in the directions by install they just mean run the exe file in the IaMP folder right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>58968

Still up.

[Anonymous No.]

looks like buttan mashan is a bad idea in this game

[Dat Pear No.]

Yuyuko fag from the last night:
189.135.121.71

[Kelrey No.]

still playing hisouten

69.235.10.35

[Anonymous No.]

x.x.x.123 What exact problem are you having?

[Anonymous No.]

WTF Sturmfuhrer? Leave us noobs alone!

[Dat Pear No.]

damnt it even china kicked my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>59444

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zl0ZNiw4vXk

[Kelrey No.]

still hosting

69.235.10.35

hisouten = swr if you're wondering

[Anonymous No.]

62.78.183.126 EU but ill play any delay
3 games

[Dat Pear No.]

still hosting, ip:

[Anonymous No.]

>>59223
IaMP is like the exact opposite of a button masher. Everything you do's gotta have a purpose and you've gotta plan ahead, otherwise, you'll be flying around and shitting stars all over the place.

It's pretty neat that way, though it can be stressful at higher level play.

[Anonymous No.]

If I had any confidence in myself I'd join

But I havent played it in ages and I sucked back then too

[Anonymous No.]

ggs.

Btw, try putting in the suggested input delay next time. 2 delay works up to 64ms at 60fps(due to spikes it shouldnt be used past 50ms)

[Anonymous No.]

OP here, didn't think this thread would last so long. Great that it's still is alive.
71.162.131.216 up again.

[Anonymous No.]

76.167.57.53

I play Sakuya and China really shittily. :D

[Anonymous No.]

76.188.105.98 hosting swr

lol those were fun matches, somebody

[Anonymous No.]

oh man, I suck at this game

[Anonymous No.]

I notice a lot of you seem to be having problems with frame rate being under 60fps. If you're not running anything in the background to clog up the Internet, and your computers have no effects lag, then _YOU SET THE DELAY VALUE TOO LOW._ CowCaster will recommend a probably workable delay automatically when you connect, just press enter to use it, though plain old th075Caster won't.(there's a lot of reasons to use cow variant other than that, too, like custom color palettes and such.)

http://mauve.sandwich.net/iamp/CowCaster-080107.zip

For people too lazy to get a different client that is more suited to the task, there's a chart of ms -> delay values on the wiki: http://iamp.mizuumi.net/index.php/Netplay#Hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>59563

>>59557 was me

[Kelrey No.]

>>59563
where are you?

300 ms is unacceptable

[Anonymous No.]

>>59666
ohio...

[anonymous No.]

Eastern SWR anyone? IP?

[Anonymous No.]

To hell with you Yuyuko...

Great games.

[Dat Pear No.]

>>59757

thanks, good alice btw

[Anonymous No.]

West coast, IaMP: 64.91.113.5

[Anonymous No.]

Now I'm satiated and I attached my new pneumatic thumb, I'm up for a few.

24.177.242.247

US East.

Mainly Alice with a DURRRR Yuyuko for shits.

[Anonymous No.]

I've learned a valuable lesson today.

Ray moo.

Don't pursue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>60101
Reimu's all about locking down the opponent so they can't do what they want. She actually has pretty crap damage.

j.a gives her a pretty big advantage in the air, though, so it's not really a good idea to hit her head on. Yuyu's j.a is technically longer range, but the problem is that it comes out very slowly so you have to do it ahead of time. Meaning if you time it wrong, the opponent is too far behind / too close and you get whomped. Need to use Yuyu's 236 projectiles as cover so that the opponent will get interrupted if they try to just shoe you in the face for it.

[Anonymous No.]

71.162.131.216 If anyone wants some quick match against my Raymoo before I leave.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoever that just challenged me, I'm still up, but you set the right delay value so the game don't lag.

[Anonymous No.]

Well OP here, I'm out.

GG Everyone!

[Anonymous No.]

Goddam do I suck at this game.

[Dat Pear No.]

to whoever challenged me, it was laggy as hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>60353
Everyone sucks at IaMP. No exceptions.

It's just a matter of the degree of sucking.

[Dat Pear No.]

>>60399
lol, quoted for true

[Anonymous No.]

That was bunches of fun mr reimu combos

[Kelrey No.]

14(29) - 4(12) 3911s

good game. nice to play someone who knows how to be good with alice

[Anonymous No.]

regrettably ive only played against one single person who is always marisa so I have no idea how to play vs reimus

[Kelrey No.]

anyone else still up for hisouten?

69.235.10.35

[Anonymous No.]

KELREEYY

REIMU BLOCKS

[Anonymous No.]

To whoever I just played that was on the Meiling... Sorry, looks like my ISP has decided to start spiking like crazy, shouldn't have been lagging that much. Oh well.

[Kelrey No.]

who was that just now with gigantic lag

[Anonymous No.]

that was my cousin
who only plays marisa

[Anonymous No.]

GG, Truth.

[Truth !H5haz09wZ. No.]

>>59973
23:15:04 Session results: 6 matches, 6(12) - 0(2) wins(rounds) (1229s)

BAWWWWWWWW This guy is good. :<

[Anonymous No.]

where are you guys getting these numbers from and what do they mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>60846
10/10

[Anonymous No.]

hey kelrey
did you enjoy that reimu double pillar KO?
i was laughing pretty hard

[Kelrey No.]

oh yeah. forgot to mention that.

in suimusou you used to be invincible during that... i was pissed when i was taking damage, then laughed when i died first

[Anonymous No.]

Wow this thread is still here?

[Kelrey No.]

still hosting...

69.235.10.35. need to practice more to improve

[Anonymous No.]

we need to have these swr threads more often and i need to find someone worse than kelrey but better than whoever i fought first

[Kelrey No.]

i suck hardcore at suimusou if you want to play that...

[Anonymous No.]

24.177.242.247

US East.

[Anonymous No.]

OP here, back again and amazed how this thread is still alive.

Someone play a quick match with me.
71.162.131.216

[Anonymous No.]

Lol thanks for the whopping whoever just finished with me. Great combos. I wish I have the reflex to pull them off that fast.

[Anonymous No.]

That's enough pounding on the alice.

[Kelrey No.]

no matter how hard i try, i can't get the forward-roll okizene down with alice...

backroll and no-roll is easy... right?

[Kelrey No.]

back to hosting hisouten

69.235.10.35

[Anonymous No.]

Is Scarlet Weather Rhapsody better than IaMP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61548
Player's preference.

[Kelrey No.]

>>61548
i like hisouten better because it feels more like touhou.. and i suck at suimusou

[Anonymous No.]

>>61553
Okay, well, what characters are in it that aren't in IaMP, and vice versa?

[Kelrey No.]

>>61566
so far, aya. we don't know what other char we're gonna get

[Anonymous No.]

>>61572
WHAT?!!

No Cirno and no Reisen = instant fail.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, is only the demo of SWR available?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61548
The only people who will tell you this are people who are either not experienced with fighters or are not experienced with IaMP. But since this comes up A LOT, I may as well describe the reasoning behind it. SWR has a lot more casual appeal. It's a lot easier to 'pick up and play', overall. But it dumbs down the game to do it. Let's refer to a tourney finals match, from one of the two SWR tourneys, here to make the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yfU2gdzv90

On the surface, it looks pretty good. There appears to be mindgames going on, there appears to be some fairly intricate movement. But this is mostly a joke. If you look carefuly, you'll see that the game basically devolves to:

- Dash around like crazy until someone blocks something.
- The one that landed the blocked blow does a strong pressure string, that is very difficult to escape.
- Pressure string ends with either a good read and a border escape(-1 orb temporarily, jump straight up, can be punished if read) or when the offender's orbs get low.
- In Alice's case, her stuff can be backdashed midscreen, so she's at a disadvantage in this case. Doesn't matter since it's TamaPO playing there, and he's a living god of mindreading, but hey. Aya's, obviously, are a lot tighter and harder to get out of.

The mindgame essentially becomes "maybe it's better to get hit by this than it is to block it," because pressure is very strong when it does land and much harder to get out of. Does this sound good to you?

Essentially, SWR is a very shallow game that doesn't work very well beyond casual/basic levels of play, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a skilled fighting game player who will tell you to do anything but avoid it in its current state.

[Kelrey No.]

>>61619
this is gonna turn into a giant copypasta with a bunch of other fighting games soon...

[Anonymous No.]

but swr is fun

thats all that matters

[Anonymous No.]

I'm only interested in SWR because IaMP runs slow on my computer for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61553
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[Anonymous No.]

>>61614
Yes, there's only a demo out, and there's only four characters in it. Reimu, Marisa, Alice, and Aya.

As the guy who programmed SWRCaster, I can tell you a few things, though. There's 20 character profile slots in the game's internal data, rather than just the 4 for the demo. This could mean that there will be 20 in the final. It could also mean nothing at all. We don't know. But it's worth noting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61642

You can use it for shooters, too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61661
For a game to be successful in the long term, you need the support of both the casual players and the serious players. Just one or the other doesn't keep lasting appeal going.

SWR might be fun, but will it attract 150-man tournaments in Japan and a thriving community? That's another story. There's shitloads of doujin fighters that died quiet deaths because they didn't hold up on one end or another.

[Kelrey No.]

that aside, still hosting

[Anonymous No.]

i dont care if its successful or not, i just want it to be fun

fuck, battlefield 1942 demo is the best game out there and it only has 1 stage

[Anonymous No.]

>>61619

You're not allowed to use a video discussing game mechanics that includes Tamapo. He's...kinda freaky.

[Kelrey No.]

>>61717
his handshake's a bit weak for his gaming powers

[Anonymous No.]

>>61724

Ya see, he never touches his controller. It's all just static charges from his thumbs shot directly from his (and anyone within 30 feet)'s brain.

[Kelrey No.]

>>61745
so him and ken are the same species?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61754

They prefer the term "Race".

[Anonymous No.]

>>61722
The only people who will tell you this are people who are either not experienced with fighters or are not experienced with GGAC. But since this comes up A LOT, I may as well describe the reasoning behind it. SF3 has a lot more casual appeal. It's a lot easier to 'pick up and play', overall. But it dumbs down the game to do it. Let's refer to a tourney finals match, from a SF3 tourney, here to make the point.

(insert Daigo video here)

On the surface, it looks pretty good. There appears to be mindgames going on, there appears to be some fairly intricate movement. But this is mostly a joke. If you look carefuly, you'll see that the game basically devolves to:

- Move left and right like crazy until someone whiffs something.
- Throw out a super.
- Rely on muscle memory instead of actual skill.

The mindgame essentially becomes "maybe it's better to get hit by this than it is to block it," because pressure is very strong when it does land and much harder to get out of. Does this sound good to you?

Essentially, SF3 is a very shallow game that doesn't work very well beyond casual/basic levels of play, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a skilled fighting game player who will tell you to do anything but avoid it in its current state.

[Anonymous No.]

iamp is muscle memory for combos and knowing when to use them, thats it

seriously

[Kelrey No.]

yeah youmu's combos are like... split into 20 different places depending on situation

[Anonymous No.]

The only people who will tell you this are people who are not experienced with roguelikes. But since this comes up A LOT, I may as well describe the reasoning behind it. Angband has a lot more casual appeal. It's a lot easier to 'pick up and play', overall. But it dumbs down the game to do it. Let's refer to a tourney finals match, from one of the two Angband tourneys, here to make the point.

[www.youtube.com video]

On the surface, it looks pretty good. There appears to be mindgames going on, there appears to be some fairly intricate movement. But this is mostly a joke. If you look carefuly, you'll see that the game basically devolves to:

- Reenter the same level again and again until a player "has a good feeling."
- Once someone gets 32 levels down they farm for +ability potions for six hours.
- As soon as something truly challenging comes up, the player flees immediately. All risk is avoided.
- In a Wizards case, his stuff can be identified immediately, so he's at an extreme advantage. Doesn't matter since it's Saruman playing there, and he's a living god of autoidentifying, but hey. Fighters, obviously, have a lot less variety and harder to succeed with.

The mindgame essentially becomes "maybe it's better to flee than take a single minor risk," because pressure is very strong when you don't have [foo] needed resistance. Does this sound fun to you?

Essentially, Angband is a very shallow game that doesn't work very well beyond casual/basic levels of play, and you'll be hard-pressed to find a skilled rogue game player who will tell you to do anything but avoid it in its current state.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61926
What the fuck are you talking about.
Google Kawaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61926
...you do know there are multiple arcade emulators with online capabilities that run 02, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>61947
can you play KOF 02 or XI with that one?

[Anonymous No.]

Woohoo, I spawned copypasta. Well, serves me right for trying to explain what's wrong with the game, anyway, haha.

>>61953
And GGPO runs kof98 with better lag handling. So hey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>61967
Any NeoGeo or CPS1/2 roms that MAME can run, Kawaks can run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62029
Is there any server for it or is it for hosting a game with a friend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>62053
Uses the Kaillera client for netplay. In other words, it uses a server list.

[swedish !0DfXJZmCJ6 No.]

>>61619

Casual here, can you tell me how

>Dash around like crazy until someone blocks something.
>The one that landed the blocked blow does a strong pressure string, that is very difficult to escape.
>Pressure string ends with either a good read and a border escape(-1 orb temporarily, jump straight up, can be punished if read) or when the offender's orbs get low.

is any different from IaMP? I'll admit that I'm pretty new to fighters, and that IaMP and SWR are two different games, but the strategy essentially seems the same to me.

>muscle memory for combos and knowing when to use them

[Anonymous No.]

Timeout.

[Anonymous No.]

things swr did right:

1) orb system to tell you exactly how much something was
2) can't self-drain your spirit bar
3) made spellcards more relevant to gameplay

things swr did wrong:

1) weather system was useless
2) card system was a bad way to implement multiple spellcards
3) both weather and card system relied on randomness, and random = bad
4) swr forced you to use doubletap and the d button instead of allowing you to use one or the other like iamp did
5) the multiple applications of bomb are gone and replaced with border escape, a single specific tool for a specific situation
6) guard crushing someone was a goal in iamp and meant more implied damage (but you still had to work for it). in swr it is guaranteed damage since the next hit after gc is unblockable, so if you burn a lv5 spellcard from your guard crush, guess what, lolz u can't block it, gg
7) other minor shit in the demo that were issues but nothing that couldn't have been patched up: alice's hitboxes are all wrong, alice doesn't have her full moveset, reimu has a weird infinite, aya is overpowered, backgrounds are fucking ugly

[Anonymous No.]

Still no.

[Anonymous No.]

I can't, use relay. (Option 7 on cowcaster)

[Anonymous No.]

>>62343
Very, very different.

From a pressure string standpoint... IaMP has longer pressure but many more opportunities to get out of them: Basically just about everything has a gap and everything is a trap, it's all about learning how to think around your opponent. SWR's strings are more specific and have fewer holes, and the ways to get out of the strings are set at specific intervals, and the pressure always ends after a set period of time. Simplified, less mindgamey, more RPSy.

From a spatial control standpoint: Spatial coverage is also much more limited in SWR, due to how the projectile system changed, so it's harder to control space without actually being in it. Everything's faster, so there are fewer traps/fake traps and more poking. You end up with simple traps like, oh, Aya j.b j.214a making up much of the game. (Watch tourney matches, no one smart even tries to graze that shit.) Again, simplified, more RPSy, less thinking ahead involved.

On the combo thing.. You can tell the amount of skill someone has at fighting games by how much emphasis they put on combos. Combos are tactics, rather than a strategy. LANDING the combos in the first place is a strategy. SWR you get one for free off of pretty much anything you land because of the exaggerated wallslam and groundslam physics. In IaMP, everything is situational and you have to fight for the positioning for them, and the opponent will know this and fight against them. (On a side note, Marisa in SWR has a 50/50 j.2a crossup groundslam mixup into Blazing Star. Yes, the one that does a shitload of damage. And it's a stupid easy hitconfirm.)

It's a difference in the amount of depth - If you don't sit down and look at it, it's not obvious, but it's there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62620
Is it worth spending weeks practicing IaMP before you get good at it? I only played like 3 matches and I still didn't know what the hell I was doing.

[Anonymous No.]

Still timeout. Use option 7, then press enter. We can connect that way.

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

Its the timeout of doooooom. (on 7, bleargh)

[Anonymous No.]

>>62645
's up to you. It's a good game, very solid, very balanced compared to most fighters(Only Patch and Meiling are genuinely disadvantaged, but everyone has a decent shot at winning), lots of mindgaming going on.

There's a tutorial video in the works, which should help things, maybe within a month or so it'll be out. For the most part we recommend reading the basics guide on the front page of the wiki and playing the story mode through to get the hang of movement/grazing, once you can do that you're good to go to try some humans. #iamp always welcomes fresh meat^Wplayers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>62679
thanks

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

well, I got raped.

Im practicing all the night.

[Anonymous No.]

gg. Youmu Keyboard Team victory!

[Dat Pear No.]

holy shit 255 posts and 22 image replies

[Kelrey No.]

anyone still playing suimusou?

i'm hosting 69.235.10.35

[Anonymous No.]

My controls stopped working on the character select. Do you wish to continue?

[Kelrey No.]

nah. i only play hisouten anyways. it's in there somewhere i said i suck hardcore =/

we can continue if you'd like. i'm free to use the computer

[Kelrey No.]

>>63041
no thanks =/ i only played to get some replays... gotta study them to get better

[Anonymous No.]

Nah, I'm done here for today.

[Kelrey No.]

so magister and swedish are my hisouten buddies...

i can tell you how do open ports later if you want

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

I are teh still around. on 7.

[Anonymous No.]

btw you do know relay camping gets you tempbanned

2008/02/24 00:57:48 IaMP: 189.155.84.158 banned for 60s

[Kelrey No.]

189.155.84.158 says t/o for me

[Chardo !PaaSYgVvtw No.]

well, at least now I know everything I have to know, the bad way.

[Kelrey No.]

k i've officially played touhou for 12 hours straight.

what do i win?

[Anonymous No.]

pain and suffering

[Kelrey No.]

>>63194
let's play? =]

[Kelrey No.]

>>63296
i'm always hosting...