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How come nobody ever comes up with crazy theories about Hideyoshi?

>> No.5571647

Because he is fat and uninteresting.

>> No.5571646

HIDEYOSHI DID 9/11

>> No.5571653

>>5571646
from which follows that Hideyoshi is a ✡JEW✡

>> No.5571663

He's the only nice adult.

>> No.5571669

>>5571643
Hideyoshi actually isn't fat; he's packing bombs under the suit.

>> No.5571668

because hes black

>> No.5571686

>>5571669
I FUCKING KNEW IT

>> No.5571687
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>>5571643
Him and Shannon are never seen together by the detective, therefore they are the same person!

>> No.5571706

Hideyoshi killed Nanjo.

>> No.5571707
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>>5571687

>> No.5571737

>>5571663
That's strange in and of itself. Hideyoshi is unassuming, which is usually a red flag for "up to something," but he also doesn't give off culprit vibes. Every other parent has that in one way or another; even the Servants have that; heck, even Maria has her moments; what's his story?

>> No.5571745

I have just recently started playing the VN. Unfortunately, I made the mistake of watching the anime first. But from what I gathered from the shitty anime, can I even take half of what happens to be actually, really happening?

>> No.5571750

Hideyoshi has had -no- backstory so people probably just forget he's there to begin with. He also doesn't seem like a bad guy.

That probably means he's the culprit in every episode, though. I wouldn't put it past Ryu07.

>> No.5571775

>>5571745
Ryu07 clarifies that in Episode 5 of the Visual Novel. The anime stops with Episode 4 which is why you don't understand what he's going for. That said, Umineko follows certain rules which he'll bring up later.

>> No.5571778

>>5571745

Wait until later in episode 3 and 4 and you will figure out how to think about things.

The basic idea is that even if we see crazy magical shit happening, all that has to be done is to present an explanation of how a human could have done it.

There are some problems in discerning what did and did not happen though. One of the biggest ones is Gaap's pitfalls into the prison in EP4, unless people have figured out possibilities for that one.

>> No.5571782

>>5571750
We know he started out "penniless and ruined".

>> No.5571798

>>5571778
>>5571775
Thanks guys! I look forward to it.

>> No.5571807

>>5571782
So how can we twist this into motivation for murder? He had worked so hard to secure the success of his company but it was about to be stolen from him. HE NEEDED MONEY RIGHT NOW and so (going with Battler's theory at one point) he pretended to be the alchemic adviser to the family in order to convince them to lead him to the gold. Well, I didn't initially think he had any motivation but I guess it's actually quite plausible.

>> No.5571836

>>5571782
My shitty idea

Then he got a wife named Eva accompanied her to an Ushiromiya family conference and discovered the witch's gold. Now timeskip to 1986 he has managed to sneak out small amounts of the gold unnoticed and start up a small business, but he has bigger plans in store for this year's family conference. He is planning on creating a bizarre murder scenario that will allow him to walk out with the rest of the gold, unopposed.

>> No.5571844

There are a few. He's the best husbando ever and Eva's family treats her like shit so....

>> No.5571853

>>5571836
>Eva dating, much less even looking, at a man without cash

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>> No.5571874

>>5571853

I don't think Eva married him for his cash or looks.

>> No.5571880

>>5571750
From what I can remember off the top of my head, he began smoking during or after the war. I think he said he worked in a factory back then. Wasn't it a cigarette factory? He likes Sengoku history. He started a successful chain of family restaurants by himself.

Speaking of the restaurants, I've been wondering how involved Eva is with the management of them, or if he doesn't include her in such men-only activities.

>> No.5571950

>>5571880
The restaurant is angel mort

>> No.5571960

>>5571950
You clever motherfucker.

>> No.5571962

>>5571874
It was the magic hands.

>> No.5571971

>>5571874
That may be true, but Kinzo would never allow Eva to marry a poor man.

>> No.5572010

well he knows how to tame a witch

>> No.5572054

Hideyoshi is actually Ange in disguise, she's wearing a mask and one of those robot tuxedos from Pinky and the Brain

>> No.5572078

I don't know why people don't suspect Hideyoshi, actually. I pin EP3 on him. He was very suspicious then.

>> No.5572162

Well he's lying about Shkanon being dead in episode one. He's obviously up to something.

>> No.5572180

>>5572162
>shkanon
No. Get out of my Umineko thread, scum.

>> No.5572182

>>5572162
How can he lie about something that doesn't exist?

>> No.5572216
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5572216

>>5572162

>> No.5572229

>>5572216

If Shannon = Kanon, then the one person has both names and can pick and choose both. That red does not contradict it.

>> No.5572239

>>5572229
You miss an important part-
>the person himself
>himself
SHKANON CONFIRMED FOR MALE. SHKANON SUPPORTERS ARE GAY.

>> No.5572258

Because he is the culprit

>> No.5572282

>>5572239


Well judging by the new portrait this is obviously a homolust story now.

>> No.5572278

>>5572229
>the one person has both names

Derp.

>> No.5572286

>>5572258
No, John. You are the demons.

>> No.5572331
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>>5572239
Wait, if Shkanon is male then does that mean George proposed to a....

>> No.5572344

>>5572278

Show me where in red where it says "one person may only have one name".

>> No.5572352

I always imagine hideyoshi with hank hill's voice

>> No.5572399
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>>5572282
I am very okay with this

>> No.5572426

>>5571687
Doesn't his top remind you of Beatrice's double breasted jacket/tie combination?

>> No.5572434

>>5571874
>Big dick.

It is so obvious now.

>> No.5572564

>>5572434
Gentlemen, we've found a link. Hideyoshi's big dick is somehow connected to the culprit.

>> No.5572590

>>5572564
>Hideyoshi's big dick is somehow connected to the culprit.

I can't stop laughing.

>> No.5573775

Bumpu

>> No.5573866

>>5572344
Here:
6 people: Kinzo, Genji, Shannon, Kanon, Gohda, and Kumasawa are dead!

>> No.5573923

I stick to my theory of Kanontrice. Watch as 'Erika' was just Kanon dressing up as a girl all along.

>> No.5573935

>>5573923
maybe Erika is the nick for the one who's the detective

>> No.5573979

>>5573935
Battler must have declared it that one time he got drunk and then forgot about it. After all he does hate his name.

>> No.5574018

>>5573979
on episode 2 we know that he got drunk, so we can't trust the scenes with Kinzo's room and him being a furniture.

>> No.5574042
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5574042

I'm pretty sure I made a few with George and Shannon being accomplices~

>> No.5574062
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5574062

Hideyoshi is first to "assume" that it's a work of a demon. Then he freaked out a little when Natsuhi proposed to put a new lock on the shed. Then he drew attention to the existence of the single key. All that might mean that he's really an accomplice, for Shannon or other faker, and there exists a double key for the shed.

>> No.5574063
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5574063

What was the only character that Battler doesn't recall from before coming? He even remembers Shannon after talking for a little bit. On the other hand, Kanon...

>> No.5574091

I tip my hat to the ones finding these small bits of information.

I read it to enjoy myself, but I really need to start trying to notice those things.

>> No.5574174

>>5572078
Ep3 seemed a bit too 'staged' for my liking, like with Rudolf and Kyrie with the cigarette. Just like Ep5 with events being manipulated to make everyone suspect Natsuhi, I think it was the same with Eva there.

>> No.5574193

>>5574174
Hideyoshi-culprit doesn't automatically means Eva-culprit, you know.

>> No.5574224

>>5574091
I read it once or twice just for pleasure, without really deep thinking about theories and then I carefully reread some suspicious parts to search for details.

>> No.5574235

>>5574193
True, but surely Eva would've told Hideyoshi that she was planning to solve the riddle, therefore the murders would be unnecessary?

Unless Hideyoshi has he own agenda.

>> No.5574284

>>5571775
if you mean the knox rules, no Umineko does not follow them.

>> No.5574291
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5574291

>>5574063

Technically, he doesn't recall Ange, either~

>> No.5574302

>>5574063
Gohda?

>> No.5574316

>>5574284
>ba dum tsss

>> No.5574341

>>5574091
it gets a bit annoying when you want to confirm a single thing from there, because the exact wording of something can be pretty important you cant just believe that your emember it right.

>> No.5574353

>>5574341
Yeah, true.

I just leave it to you guys, some people come up wit theories that are not only fun to read, but make sense in a certain way too.

>> No.5574357

>>5574284
How come Dlanor's arguments are valid when you can just say "yeah, bu what do those ten commandments some fucker wrote long time ago have to do with ANYTHING?"

>> No.5574373

He's a too cool guy to be involved in murders.

>> No.5574388

man i cannot wait for Beatrice to be revealed as man who is in love with Battler and want to be his ideal woman.

>> No.5574394

>>5574353
>wit
>with

>> No.5574586 [DELETED] 

I get it.I get all of it.The blonde man in EP7 portrait is the person Battler talks to in the flashback.You know the conversation where Battler described his ideal woman.That mean the blonde man is the one who create Beatrice for Battler.

>> No.5574619

The strangest thing about Hideyoshi is how he completely loses his accent in Chiru.

>> No.5574638

>>5574619
Maybe Ryukishi forgot?

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>>5574619
he got killed and the aliens (the actual culprits) made a clone of him! BUT the clone doesnt have the same accent!

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