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[Anonymous No.]

Whoa, she's pretty all grown up.

[Anonymous No.]

smelly dumb oldhag yukari scam

[Anonymous No.]

that's not yukari
...who is that

[Dwiddles No.]

hmm, yes, WHO is that?

[Anonymous No.]

I should know who this is. I feel bad for not knowing who this is.

[Anonymous No.]

it's one of the PC98s

[Anonymous No.]

THAT's Marisa?
Wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504424
No it isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504441
Yes, it is.

[Anonymous No.]

She's even more classier than Yukari now.

[Anonymous No.]

Hakurei Miko?

[Anonymous No.]

I thought Reimu was supposed to become Yukari, not Marisa. She even has the Parasol and the attitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504453
Don't bullshit me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504401
She's blonde so I'm saying Luize or Kana.

[Anonymous No.]

Read the damn doujin, it's Marisa after a lot of shit happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504424
The design is completely different. Are you sure?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504373
Is that Yukari and Reimu's child?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504466
>>5504477
It's Marisa.

[Anonymous No.]

That's Marisa. This is Yukari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504481
Wrong doujin circle dude, its just Marisa grown up after leaving Gensyoko.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504373

Post all of it or a download, the file name is turning up crap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504502
* the translated version that is, I can find the raw

[Anonymous No.]

Me >>5504456 here. After seeing Yukari in >>5504496 I take that back. Yukari still has her beat by one ribbon. Are they about to start fighting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504502
5 seconds on exhentai.
http://exhentai.org/g/255914/133349ecd1/

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504502
>>5504527
http://gallery.gensokyo.org/archive/DEMOUR402_-_Reborn_From_Omega.zip

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504539
>worksafe doujin
>e-hentai
>my face

[Anonymous No.]

This doujin is awesome.

Young Marisa when she cuts her hair looks exactly like Alice.
Older Marisa looks like Yukari.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504553
And?
It works. E-hentai/exhentai has lots of worksafe stuff...for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504582
okay, let me know how seeing dick ads works out while browsing worksafe stuff faglord

[eek !SYLPH2qXy2 No.]

>>5504582
all I get is a picture of a sad panda and a rose.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504603
Google it.

[Anonymous No.]

You fags can't just wait until the next update?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504614
eat a dick

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't you just go to >>5504547 and be happy? Why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504603
Delete cookies, log on to e-hentai, try again.
>>5504594
Pick one:
1. Use exhentai, which has no adds.
2. Ignore them.
3. Just use the sites to find the exact name of the doujin and/or the name of it's circle and punch THAT into google or whatever.

This is not hard, anonymous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504622
I want yours. Where are you now? I'll bring the hatchet.

[Anonymous No.]

EX-Marisa confirmed for being stronger than Yukari. It makes sense after all, there's really no limit to a magician's growth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504527
>I can find the raw
Where? I'd like to have it

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504373
Thanks OP, this doujinshi is going in my favorites folder.

A+ Art
A- Story
A+ Writing

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504494
Outside world turned marisa into a slut?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504755
Only to Kourin, he's the sugar daddy to a few Touhous so he gets a few rewards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504755
nah, just another old hag

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504778
>old hag
you guys are faggots, seriously

[Anonymous No.]

The Reimu part at the end was sad for about 3 pages, before Marisa's fears about it being generations later got debunked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504856
spoilers you fucking hithead

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think Marisa will ever be in my top 3 favorites list unless ZUN gives her a powerup. The thrashing she received in SSiB just made me hate her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504946
Nobody got "thrashed" in SSiB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504499
>>5504481
What doujin circle did that?

[Fujiwara no Mokou !!mGXYMm0qKk/ No.]

>>5504946
...sounds like you'd be unable to read the adventures of the Three Mischievous Fairies then, with their lower-than-Cirno powerlevels...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504974
I think you might be looking for Enchantresses' Dance.

[Anonymous No.]

exhentai wasn't supposed to be dead ?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504946
your retarded then

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505034
>lower-than-Cirno powerlevels
There are more than a couple touhou characters weaker than Cirno, even just going with her being a stage 2 boss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505071
No. It's just tricky to get into.
It's a SECRET site. Shush!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505086
Boss levels != power levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505106
Boss size == power levels

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505086

That and Cirno has technically quite a few of the main characters canonically, if you count her routes in TH9 and TH12.3

Which, you know, you probably should.

This includes Marisa, twice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505086

That and Cirno has technically defeated quite a few of the main characters canonically, if you count her routes in TH9 and TH12.3. Which, you know, you probably should.

This includes Marisa, twice.

Seriously though, even attempting discussing power levels in Touhou is a fruitless endeavor since at some point pretty much everyone has defeated everyone else. That and since everyone is basically playfighting , theres no way to tell how close they ever come to actually being serious.

[Anonymous No.]

Touhou powerlevels would only matter if 3 things happened.

1. For some reason spellcard rules were called off. This would entail Reimu's death not meaning the collapse of the border for some reason.
2. The reality breaking abilities half of the cast possess no longer mattered/existed. Power doesn't matter when space and time are malleable.
3. Everyone serioused the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505367

>This would entail Reimu's death not meaning the collapse of the border for some reason.

Or everyone just stops using the rules. I don't think its ever explicitly stated that there's actually anything that forces people to use the spellcard rules, other than not wanting things to regress to their former state. But then, I can't think of any other reason why the cast of SA seem to use them despite them probably not even knowing about it.

> 2. The reality breaking abilities half of the cast possess no longer mattered/existed. Power doesn't matter when space and time are malleable.

Or if Zun actually explained any limits to the abilities. We don't know what limits Yukari's boundary manipulation has, except that she couldn't reach the moon except under specific circumstances. People have a tenancy to see that a character is listed as having a power and assume that there aren't limits.

I always find how some people view characters as amazing. Example: I've always gotten the impression of Yukari as being a bit of a glass cannon. Someone with pretty useful abilities, but is actually pretty lacking in strength, either physical or magical. Majority of people's perception of her is decidedly on the other end of the spectrum. Which is fine, but it is pretty funny how my impression of her is so completely different than what I see from everyone else.

But yeah, in the end it is completely pointless to talk about it. It all comes down to people trying to pit their own interpretation of a character against someone else's interpretation of another character. Its like trying to say a royal flush beats a triple word score.

[Anonymous No.]

Except Alice and Yukari can't cook omelets as delicious as Aya.

That store she gets them from must be a big secret.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505496
>Its like trying to say a royal flush beats a triple word score.

Ahah

Well people like to try to make sense out of illogical things, that's all. It's impossible to make Touhou's canon consistent.

[Anonymous No.]

Powerlevels can't be measured. Let us discuss how difficult their danmaku are assuming we ignore system specific benefits, e.g. no cherry bombs for PCB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505367
>>5505496
It's not Reimu who started the spellcard rules, it was most likely Yukari. Secondly, every Touhou game takes place in a realm located in Gensokyo that was conceived by Yukari. Yukari created it because humans were on the verge of exterminating youkai. Note: all youkai were being weakened by the outside world because the times were changing. As Yukari said, "the moon created shadows, the shadows created fear, and the fear created youkai." The powerful youkai exterminators eliminated that "fear." The humans of Gensokyo didn't want the youkai to become extinct so they agreed to do mock battles. The mock battles and conflicts kept the "fear" alive. Thus allowing youkai to exist. If Gensokyo dies the youkai will die.

If you need citation for 'any' of the sentences above just quote it and I shall provide a detailed citation from the Touhou wikia.

>>5504964
>Nobody got "thrashed" in SSiB.
Marisa in particular got beaten pretty bad in SSiB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505754
>Marisa in particular got beaten pretty bad in SSiB.
I don't think Marisa is known for self-control, i'm not suprised.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505696

Even assuming no supernatural border, PCB is still pretty easy (on normal) except for Yuyuko. Of course this is exclusing Extra and Phantasm, which I cannot beat yet. Haven't beaten any of the extra stages, actually. And as I haven't 1cc'd SA or UFO, I haven't ever actually seen the extra stages for those games.

In order of difficulty (for me, on normal, least to most) it goes:

IN
PCB
EoSD
MoF
SA = UFO
STB / DS (but this should be obvious)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505696
Noooo, don't do that! Then you have to conclude that the IN cast is the strongest because of the team mechanic (presumably, if ZUN has a canon version in mind for who actually took action in what games, it was a team rather than a solo character), and IN sucks!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505696
>Powerlevels can't be measured.
Actually they can. If you look at everything ZUN has written it comes down to this. Technology and purity defeats magic and impurity. The powerlevels are as follows:

Lunarians > Humans > Youkai

This is not to say humans or Lunarians are physically or mentally superior to youkai. Humans and Lunarians just have the youkai's kryptonite. As >>5505754 said,
humans were on the verge of exterminating all youkai until Yukari cooked up her Gensokyo plan. In the end, the Dragon and humans ended up sparing the youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505850
>Humans > Youkai

Are we playing/reading the same things here?

If the humans were stronger than the youkai, they wouldn't need to rely on a shrine priestess to protect them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505861
>If the humans were stronger than the youkai, they wouldn't need to rely on a shrine priestess to protect them.
Did you not read the post? Shrine maidens are just actors in a ritual. A youkai creates fear --> a youkai slayer stops the fear. It's kind of like a contract to keep the faith alive. If you need citation just ask. Youkai are stronger/smarter than humans but humans have their kryptonite, thus making them stronger. Youkai used to be a threat but as the times changed the humans got the upper hand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505754

You're speaking on conjecture. It is never explicitly stated who actually created the rules, only that it probably wasn't the shrine maiden. Yes, one interpretation is that it was Yukari that made the rules, but there isn't any actual evidence of that yet.

>>5505850

The humans in the village are supposedly on the level of the "normal" Youkai, but its generally assumed that any named Youkai is on a higher level than the average villager. This is of course also conjecture, but it is also never stated that humans are stronger.

As for the Lunarians, judging by what I saw in SSiB, they are complete pushovers and are lucky the youkai decided to play nice. Sakuya alone could have probably just killed the lot of them had she so desired. As the very least she could have killed moonbitch. They might have devastating technology, but its obvious their soldiers are so poorly trained and they have so few that they might as well not even have an army.

Also, Reisen, Kaguya, and Eirin are all from the moon and were all pretty soundly defeated, despite them actually trying to defend themselves rather than just playing games.

I do believe Zun states somewhere that the Lunarians would totally wipe out the youkai in an actual fight, but by what he's actually shown, and how consistent he actually is with his narration, I highly doubt it. But again, its all conjecture until it actually happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505929

You clearly have not read all of the supplementary materials have you? Reimu isn't even the one that protects the village. The village is protected by youkai.

Also, kryptonite sure has worked out well for Lex right? Oh wait, it hasn't. I can have a stick that instantly kills anyone I touch with it, but if that person is using an attack helicopter, there isn't going to be much I can do about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505998
We still don't know how powerful that moonbitch was. All she did was summon the powers of others (in this case the gods). Had she fought using only her sword and her inherent abilities I wonder how the battle would have turned out. I just don't know why ZUN made Marisa get beaten so badly. She challenged her to a fair spellcard duel and lost badly. (She also disgraced Yuuka's best attack--the double master-spark.)

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505998
>Also, Reisen, Kaguya, and Eirin are all from the moon and were all pretty soundly defeated, despite them actually trying to defend themselves rather than just playing games.

It's all games.
In fact, the main characters caused an incident and Kaguya solved it. (she bombed a lot)
They then drank tea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505861

I think he means in a overall stronger than being stronger on a individual level. A lot of magical beings existences are tied to belief or faith so the human race as a whole could essentially faze them out, not counting modern weaponry. The humans living in Gensokyo itself though are pretty fucked because the human trump card doesn't work so well in such a place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505998
If you put it into context it was highly likely that Yukari was the one who thought of the rules. She is after all the one who created the Youkai world (in Gensokyo) that needed those laws to be upheld. Search for: "Youkai Expansion Project" http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

>This is of course also conjecture, but it is also never stated that humans are stronger.
Actually it has been stated.

>About the time humans outside began to become more powerful and deny the existence of youkai, Gensokyo was already in danger of destruction
>The solution endorsed by the sage of the youkai was to isolate Gensokyo using a great magical barrier.
If you read the link above the "youkai sage" is revealed to be Yukari.
>That plan was to have humans and youkai continue to battle each other in mock duels
>We, the humans of the village, will continue our mock battles with the youkai in order to ensure the stability of their existence.
Yukari had no choice but to come up with the Gensokyo plan, because youkai were about to become extinct. Lucky for her the humans agreed to go along with it. Youkai are more powerful than humans but their kryptonite is quite the bottleneck. Only Suika would stand a chance against youkai exterminators nowadays, because ZUN said humans have forgotten the black magic needed to stop them.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento%3A_Monologue

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506052

The thing that bothers me is that Marisa didn't even lose. She just used two of her cards, then said "fuck it, I'm out". She didn't even TRY to win. Does that match with the Marisa we've seen elsewhere? Fuck no.

Like I said earlier, no one was acting even remotely believably. Its not even about them using their powers efficiently, everyone just suddenly became retarded the instant they set food on the moon. Sakuya refuses to fly for some reason, Marisa turns into a fucking coward, and Reimu forgets about half her abilities in favor of some gimmicky god summoning system.

You know what I think it was? Zun is known to be a fan of Jojo. I bet the whole battle of Reimu and Yorihime was supposed to feel similar to the concept of the Stands in Jojo. But I think he tried too hard and ended up completely forgetting the powers and personalities of the characters he had written, and focusing too much on "wouldnt it be cool if Reimu started summoning gods? and fought someone else that summons gods?".

Afterall, how could you make Reimu your main hero if Marisa is just as determined and powerful? The only answer he could think of was make Marisa a complete pushover. You actually see this kind of thing a lot in shonen anime. DBZ in particular was notorious for this. And how fitting, because the moon arc was like namek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506213
Reimu's attacks are only good against impure things like youkai--seeing how youkai are weak against shinto/buddha chants and enchanted items. The Lunarians are pure beings who aren't weak to such things. (In all honesty, a human with a gun could defeat Reimu if they were pure of heart.)

Remilia is a youkai and Lunarians' entire society is based on stuff created to kill impurities (e.g., youkais). The entire Lunar Capital is one giant kryptonite to youkai according to Yukari who said, "Lunarians don't fear youkai like humans do. Thus, destroying the balance needed to maintain the youkai's existence." Eirin too disrupts the balance since her role in Gensokyo is that of a human. But unlike humans she doesn't fear youkai. SSiB happened because Yukari wanted the Lunarians to pay taxes for Eirin's stay.

Citation is from ZUN's books.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506213
And that's why SSiB made me hate Marisa. Up until I read SSiB I never really thought of Marisa as a side character. But in SSiB ZUN used her as a stepping stone to make the main protagonist, Reimu, seem better by comparison. Way to fall down the tree of shonen cliches and hit every branch on the way down. We really needed yet another useless side character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506205

Yes, I am well aware of this. I've read pretty much everything you have. This still doesn't say that humans are stronger. It just said that the youkai were weakening and feeling pressured by human expansion.

Think of it this way. Thousands of years ago, there weren't that many millions of humans. Now there are billions. Strength in numbers and all that. Plus theres the fact that the entire attitude of the world was changing. Humans weren't as afraid of the dark anymore (so to speak), and so the entire purpose of youkai was being lost.

So no, it is not stated anywhere that humans are stronger than youkai. That is why I am calling it conjecture. You are making conclusions based on incomplete information.

And that is why a power level discussion is not possible. We do not have enough information on which to base any argument at all. I don't have enough to base the argument of "youkai are stronger" and you don't have enough of a base to go "no humans are!!1"

So let's just sip some tea and talk about the pretty lightshows we made while resolving a petty dispute.

[Anonymous No.]

>Way to fall down the tree of shonen cliches and hit every branch on the way down. We really needed yet another useless side character.
Well, this is Japan we're talking about here. Only the protagonist is ever allowed to become something more useful than a glorified cheerleader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506355
It would be more reasonable to hate SSiB than to hate Marisa.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506308

Tell that to Marisa, Sakuya, Yuyuko, Youmu etc etc. The whole "Reimu's powers only affect youkai" thing just plain isn't consistent. And yes, I am using Yuyuko and Youmu as an example because I do recall Reimu stating her abilities dont work well on ghosts. Yet she still kicked their asses.

And yes, I can use Marisa as an example of Reimu's actual abilities because they fought before the spellcard rules were even introduced in the first place.

Also the
>(In all honesty, a human with a gun could defeat Reimu if they were pure of heart.)

thing doesn't even make sense. They don't have to be pure of heart to kill her with a gun. It is NEVER stated that she has some kind of immunity to damage. She's just a girl. Of course, good luck even getting the chance considering the fact that Reimu moves in a way that is completely unnatural and violates physics. See Grimoire of Marisa, Reimu section. Unlike Sakuya, who only SEEMS to teleport because she stops time, Reimu does the real deal, as does Yukari.

And THAT is why SSiB was bullshit. Zun went to MASSIVE lengths to make it clear that Reimu was a reality warper, yet for some reason she doesn't use this ability on SSiB? I call bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506355
>>5506213
You guys are falling into the GRIMDARK trap again.

You want all fights to be meaningful somehow. They aren't. Marisa and every other character lost countless times already, don't expect them to be determined to win. They're not killing each other, they're killing their boredom there. And noone except maybe Remilia was seriously interested in the whole moon ordeal in the first place, why do you expect them to care. Also, Reimu wasn't shown stronger. She just had the means to actually troll the moonbitch and, being Reimu, decided to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506358
>So no, it is not stated anywhere that humans are stronger than youkai. That is why I am calling it conjecture. You are making conclusions based on incomplete information.
I'm just looking at it from the context.
>About the time humans outside began to become more powerful and deny the existence of youkai, Gensokyo was already in danger of destruction(*3).
1. Youkai are being pushed into a corner.
>The project refers to a plan designed and implemented by Yukari in order to restore power to the youkai of Gensokyo, who felt pressured by human expansion. By establishing Gensokyo as an illusionary world, and the outside as the real world, the youkai weakened by the outside world would naturally flock to Gensokyo; this was a truly epochal event.
2. Youkai have to come up with a last resort to deal with the human's expansion.
>We, the humans of the village, will continue our mock battles with the youkai in order to ensure the stability of their existence.
3. Humans befriend the youkai and agree to do mock battles in order for the youkai to continue existing.

It sounds to me as if the youkai were getting desperate. If they were more powerful than humans, why did it come down to this?

[Anonymous No.]

ITT, fat weeaboo losers on /jp/ argue about stuff a drunken Jap makes up

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506453
most of the crap they're arguing about isn't even canon, which makes it more pathetic

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506453
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[Anonymous No.]

>>5506437
>Tell that to Marisa, Sakuya, Yuyuko, Youmu etc etc. The whole "Reimu's powers only affect youkai" thing just plain isn't consistent
Those were spellcard duels though. Also, since they ARE all humans it makes sense that Reimu, a human, can manage to defeat them. Your argument is moot. The question now is, could Reimu defeat a Lunarian?

In SSiB, Reimu wasn't protected by the spellcard battle rules and could only fight in a real fight. She might have been able to beat up the moonbitch if it was a cat fight, but the moonbitch had a god hax.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506503
Lunarians are humans and you're starting to be really silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506453
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>>5506450
> It sounds to me as if the youkai were getting desperate. If they were more powerful than humans, why did it come down to this?

We don't know what made it get to that point. That is why it is called conjecture. We do not have that information, therefore we try to come up with explanations with the information we have. But again, we only have a partial picture, so any guesses we make are flawed at best.

Also, quoting PMiSS in the first place is a bit laughable considering that it is all secondhand accounts. That adds yet another layer of possible misleading information. Not that it would needed to prove my point.

>>5506443
Actually, its not even about the seriousness of the matter for me. My problem was that they were acting completely retarded, even if they were treating it as a game. Sakuya was serious about winning for her mistress, but lost because she didn't use the one power that every single person in the series seems to have.

Marisa acts like a complete pushover the whole time. She acts completely terrified of the Lunarians, and cowers like a little bitch. Again, if she was so worried about the swords in the ground, why didn't she just go UP? She flies pretty much everywhere, so why the sudden urge to walk?

And why, for a character who goes through such immense lengths to better her magic and prove her power, would she suddenly bail out of the fight after someone does something as simple as block one of her attacks?

Even if we were viewing this as actually happening with the spellcard rules it makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.]

Enjoying your little girly talk you fucking secondaries?
Sure is autism in here
Reported

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506485

You know, I can completely agree with the pathetic part, except that I'm only having this debate because I am really bored and arguing about the inner workings about a story about flying magical girls is interesting to me. I get that. It is really silly. I am in complete agreement with you here.

But what exactly is not canon about what we are talking about? No, wait, don't answer that. That was rhetorical.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506403
>It would be more reasonable to hate SSiB than to hate Marisa.
Impossible. ZUN took the independent, strong willed (fanon) Marisa I fell in love with and gave her the side character treatment. Translation: his canon pissed all over my fanon interpretation of Marisa. I blame you guys for peer pressuring me into reading some of ZUN's work. I only got into Touhou because of its community; ZUN's shitty canon limits said community. ZUN also destroyed Momiji for me in Double Spoilers.

[Anonymous No.]

>SSiB sucks.
There. Done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506503
>>5506509
>>5506516

sup samefag op stop bumping your thread thx

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506525

Because having a fairly relaxed discussion about something that interests us is autistic, amirite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506516

>We don't know what made it get to that point. That is why it is called conjecture. We do not have that information, therefore we try to come up with explanations with the information we have.

ZUN could make up whatever the hell he wants, stop stop trying to apply LOGIC to something THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

Thread reported.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506541
Did you stop and think about WHY it interests you when no one else cares?

Congratulations - you're autistic!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506536

Only one of those is mine, and I'm not OP. Also, why would the OP be involved in this discussion? We've deviated entirely from the topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506541

OP confirmed to be KоG. Report OP for ban evasion, move on...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506437
>Tell that to Marisa, Sakuya, Yuyuko, Youmu etc etc. The whole "Reimu's powers only affect youkai" thing just plain isn't consistent. And yes, I am using Yuyuko and Youmu as an example because I do recall Reimu stating her abilities dont work well on ghosts. Yet she still kicked their asses.

>implying anyone in Gensokyo is pure of heart

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506532

So you ignore canon red-haired Marisa, fall in love with Marisa after Touhou 6, then get pissed off when ZUN changes her yet again?

Grow up. Marisa is just about as original a character as Alice or Cirno.

[Anonymous No.]

So why the fuck are you guys arguing about theories in a game filled with imaginary little girls that shoot lasers. Now shut the fuck up play the games, fap whatever the fuck you do and shut up. Jesus I mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506516
Sakuya lost because she was completely surrounded by bullets. Flying wouldn't help her, they were coming from above. For fucks sake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506552

Not that I agree with you, but I'll concede that the discussion is pretty retarded and should stop. There, happy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506597
Clearly.
You might as well ask why anyone argues about anything fictional, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506610
Because they're stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506610
You might as well ask why anyone argues about anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506625
Stupidity is relative and opinionated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506602
In SWR, you can fly through bullets, invalid argument.

[Anonymous No.]

Fukken weaboos..

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506607
Which discussion should stop? The "why do you fags talk about Touhou arrgh it pisses me off" one?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506516
>Marisa acts like a complete pushover the whole time. She acts completely terrified of the Lunarians, and cowers like a little bitch.
The whole time I was reading that dreaded encounter, the only thing that was going through my mind was "can someone please shut this scared little girl up and find out what she did with the real Marisa." Remilia overall was awesome in SSiB. Not only did she put up a good fight but she hockey puck'd Marisa a few yards for being such a whiny, distasteful coward.

My top 3 favorite Touhous before SSiB:
1. Marisa
2. Reisen
3. Yukari

My top 3 favorite Touhous after SSiB:
1. Reisen
2. Yukari
3. Ran
.....
56. Marisa

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506686
>Generic bunnygirl
>2 pig disgusting hags with sagging chest tumors
>no Remilia, Flandre or Rumia at the top

Your opinion doesn't count because you have shit taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506453
>>5506485
>>5506492
>>5506511
>>5506525
>>5506536
>>5506548
>>5506564
>>5506597
>>5506607
>>5506625
>>5506674
Did you guys just go full retard? If you don't like the discussion then hide the thread. It's not hard. "Herp derp, a few bored Anons are discussing something I don't like! I must interrupt their conversation because the world revolves around me and my opinions!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506771
Secondary

[Remilia Scarlet !NOUx2Remio No.]

>>5506672
You fly past bullets, not through them. Hence, "graze".

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506686
Again, SSiB sucks. Nothing new.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506771
Secondaryfag spotted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506806

On the plus side, the various incarnations of the three faries manga are actually pretty enjoyable. After SSiB I had to wash away the vile taste with that, CoLA, and a couple PCB runs.

Oddly enough, I was one of the people that was enjoying it before they got to the moon, even though I think the consensus was that nothing was happening and therefore not worth anyone's time. Funny how one little event can make your opinion go 180, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

I reread SSiB a while ago and liked it ok. Touhou canon is pretty thin, you're better off enjoying what there is and not being such a bitter nerd about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506771
>If you don't like something, just hide it!

It's because of this attitude that /jp/ has gone to shit. When you just hide threads instead of reporting them and shitting them up, you encourage the idolfags, normalfags, tripfags, collegefags, wage slaves, riffraff from /a/, /b/, /v/ and /r9k/ to keep posting here. You encourage them to latch onto this board and drain it of its spirit and vitality, instead of making them work (or in this case, not work) to become one of us.

Think about it - when some loud, clueless retard from /a/ wanders in here and demands VN recommendations, what do we do?

We don't spoonfeed him. We tell him to lurk more or get the fuck out.

This is the mentality that all of you should apply to your posting habits. If you see something you don't like (for example, too many pig disgusting 3d threads on the front page) you should attack it, not just ignore it and allow it to fester.

Tolerance - tolerance is what makes summer last 10 months a year instead of just three.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506860
Tolerance is what allows people new to actually join the community. If you're going to be a little bitch about it, would you kindly fuck off to >>>/b/ where being a bunch of dicks is the norm?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506852

Disappointment is disappointment. I can understand liking it, since I was up to a certain point, but the entire moon section just absolutely ruined it for me. I was wanting me some good ol' danmaku action in manga form. After reading so many fanworks I was looking forward to see how Zun would handle it. I just didn't get what I was expecting. Heck, I didn't get what was implied by the promotional art / cover / whatever it was.

I remember that cool picture of Marisa and Yorihime fighting and thought it would actually happen. Not just be like a couple panels of marisa shitting stars and Yorihime not even reacting to it.

See how that might be disappointing for those wanting Marisa to do something cool?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506760
>Generic bunnygirl
I like Reisen for certain reasons. I care not for her design or personality. The real reason I like her is because of her sex appeal. And by that I mean she has the tendency to sprout a penis every once in a while. And because I'm NOT a faggot who faps to homosexual yuri porn, heterosexual porn is the only way to go. In summary, I like Reisen for her limitless fap value.

>2 pig disgusting hags with sagging chest tumors
Yukari is awesome in every (and all) spectrums possible and even in some that are theoretically impossible. Your argument is moot.

>no Remilia, Flandre or Rumia at the top
I've never really been a fan of the SDM crew thanks to all of the uber gay undertones of EoSD. Everybody in the SDM are going to hell in a hand basket. Did you know the word faggot means a "bundle of sticks." Faggots were used to burn fags back in the biblical era. You should look into it, buddy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506881

This. The last thing we need is for /jp/ to become even more intolerant. Honestly, I feel good on the rare occasions where some new guy will come in, and instead of raging at him we help him out and calmly inform how things are done. Usually we end up getting a good discussion out of it too.

If anything its the people that go "reported" at things that aren't against the rules, call people autistic, or just be all around assholes that ruin this place more than anything. Flaming the hell out of someone doesn't show them who's boss. It only makes them flame you right back. And then they'll likely come back to try some annoying troll attempt later out of spite. That is really not what we want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506930
>Did you know the word faggot means a "bundle of sticks." Faggots were used to burn fags back in the biblical era. You should look into it, buddy.
I feel enlightened.
Now every time I see the word faggot, I'll think of a bundle of dicks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506930

I don't even understand the point of half of what you said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506949
>If anything its the people that go "reported" at things that aren't against the rules, call people autistic, or just be all around assholes that ruin this place more than anything.

But this is precisely the outsider mentality we're trying to fight off. Did you not notice yet, we're not surrounded by honest, polite people. We're surrounded by /a/, /b/ and /v/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506881
>Tolerance is what allows people new to actually join the community.

Exactly why we should be intolerant as possible. We DON'T WANT new people "joining the community," because what that means in real terms is more imagedumps, more "look at that baka XD" threads and more "Guyz my girlfriend of two months just dumped me I'm sooo ronerrry :(((((" threads.

People joining the community have to come from somewhere, and if they migrate to a board about Otaku culture, chances are that they'll come from shitholes like pooshlmer, crunchyroll, sankakucomplex, animesuki, gaia or /a/. Do you want those more of those kinds of people on /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505754

This is utter bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506983
I'm from narutofanಠ_ಠKidding
Anyway, that's because of your generalization that everyone who is new is an idiot. There are decent people who want to join us well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506686
Did you somehow miss IN, with Marisa turning into a scared little girl just as soon as she sees Reimu?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506983
This attitude won't stop any of those people from coming here.
In fact, it encourages trolls from all over 4chan to come to us because we're "so easily trolled", what with all the sages we feed them. Sure, we use it differently, but they don't give a fuck.

It'd be best if we could just get some fucking mods to enforce all this, but we've already had /jp/ alternatives fail over that issue.

[Anonymous No.]

Do we just make every thread a meta-thread bitchfest now guys? I feel like all this tension in /jp/ is coming to a head.

Taking it easy set to maximum.

[Anonymous No.]

If people just did what they're told and lurked more before posting, no rude comments would be necessary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506975

So you're saying that we should be complete assholes in order to... what? I'm not sure what our objective is here. If we respond to assholes by being assholes, aren't we effectively shitting all over our own board and giving them reason to bother us more?

Seriously, if you don't like a discussion thats going on, just hide the thread and move on. If you start resorting to being a dick, you aren't going to be stopping what you don't like, you're only going to make the people involved all the more determined. Plus, its not really up to you what people talk about. Sometimes people will talk about things that you don't like or don't understand. You don't have to feel compelled to put in your two cents about it.

Now of course, if it actually violates the rules, then by all means, report the shit out of it. But just report it, don't post anything, and move along. Make a better thread or contribute to another better thread in order to push it off the boards. But don't start swinging a stick at the beehive expecting them to just pack up and leave without stinging you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506860
I'm the guy you're quoting and I agree with what you said. I just don't know why people are attacking THIS thread in particular. By spamming reported in an ontopic thread like this you belittle the word "reported." We're discussing Touhou fanon/canon, if you don't like it then leave. The OP is not complaining so he must not care that we've changed his topic

>>5506827
>>5506778
Samefriend detected. You act as if this is the first time we've had a conversation like this. Also, did you even learn what secondary meant before you incorrectly monkeyed it as a pejorative? Want to have a round of lunatic? In one way or another you'll learn what the term secondary fan means.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506983
There's nothing you can do about it anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

3/4 of the "canon facts" in this thread are fanon bullshit.

1. It was never stated that technology > magic.

2. It was never stated youkai were in danger of extinction.

3. It was never stated that disbelief of the outside world is lethal to youkai.

Stop spreading bullshit fanon theories.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507035
OP here (not kidding)
I honestly don't care about powerlevel discussions, but you know, it is what it is. Continue with whatever, I have no control over this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507063

Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507066

I'm one of the dumbasses that fagged up your thread. Kinda wish we could go back to talking about how awesome that doujin is. In particular, motorcycle-girl Marisa was delicious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507033
>So you're saying that we should be complete assholes in order to... what?

Ward them off.

It worked for a year and a half. It's, arguably, not working anymore, but then again, if you have a better idea, I'm listening. And no, being tolerant is not a better idea, we'll just have more shitty threads IN ADDITION TO more trolls and flamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506930
>Everybody in the SDM are going to hell in a hand basket.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507092
This is indeed stupid. Everyone knows that in Touhou, you go to hell in a wheel cart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507091

My suggestion? More effort into making quality threads. Give people stuff to talk about that is actually interesting. /jp/ is an incredibly slow paced board, so it makes sense that any threads of low quality can fester longer. Theres absolutely nothing we can do about that.

Instead if you find such a thread, try to hijack it into something that might be good to read. But don't do it in a hostile manner. Be sneaky. If you go all confrontational that gives the other person reason to fight back. But if you bring up something interesting to talk about, that just might get baited into actually giving a shit.

Not perfect, but its better than hearing all this hostile bullshit in almost every single thread.

Oh, and again, if you see something that you don't agree with but doesn't violate the rules, either try to change the flow of conversation, or just ignore it. A thread is much more likely to fester if you keep giving them someone to respond to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507063
Those all have a kernel of truth. It IS stated that disbelief in some way coinciding with an increasingly technological world theatens Gensokyo's/youkais' existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507116

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507091
It never worked.
We've had a constant influx of shit from Day 1.
Your "selective filtering" hasn't kept the retards out, it's just attracted trolls who prey on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507123

Yes, but none of those are facts. They are things that may or may not be true, but we have no real proof of. That is why they are theories. A theory remains a theory until it is tested.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>5507118
What's with all the underhanded stuff, are you a woman? How about just
-take off your paper autism hat
-smoke a fat blunt
-calm the fuck down
-ignore shit instead of bitching about it

what is so hard about that
It's kind of fun though to complain, I enjoyed authoring this post

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507130
Yeah well I admit I didn't read this shitawful thread to see what made you post that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507134
Hey bullet point autism poster guy, go to fucking bed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507158
That's a good suggestion, but I'm not quite feeling it yet. I think I need about another half hour or so. I just can't sleep before 4am or later anymore. That's kind of messed up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507169

I blame the internet. I sure do miss having most my day actually being daytime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507123

Humans are threatening fantasy and nature. Human expansion is threatening fairies, low level youkai and minor deities. Magical groves and mysterious forests are being destroyed. People no longer pray to local gods. Humanity is no longer afraid of the darkness. Youkai and fantasy are no longer needed in the scientific world.

It was never even suggested that human disbelief is actually killing youkai. They only lost their place in the outside world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507091
Ignoring the shit, and letting it fall off the board? Reporting it via the correct form if you feel like it should be, and not via spamming butthurt replies like "SAGE" and "REPORTED"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507205
OK stop with this argument. Go to the same thread in the ghost board and continue. It's pretty dead, make it a bit more lively if you will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506997
>This is utter bullshit.
If any thing I posted was wrong then call me out on it. If not then shut up. As I said before I have citation. Disclaimer, I cant take it easy anymore after this moron derailed our ontopic discussion with "reported." Take your meta discussion somewhere else you nerd.

>>5507063
>3/4 of the "canon facts" in this thread are fanon bullshit.
Prepare to be debunked in 5 seconds.
>1. It was never stated that technology > magic.
Read before you speak.
>Although she went in with an army of impudent youkai, they were crushed by the Moon's advanced weaponry.
>Youkai would surely be unable to stand a chance against weapons such as a rifle that can shoot a spread of many bullets in an instant, or small arms whose rounds cause great explosions, or guns that shoot bullets that the user can control after firing(*36).
>“The Lunarians possess highly advanced *technology, The ones living on Earth can never beat those on the moon, especially in the Lunar Capital.”

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507063

>2. It was never stated youkai were in danger of extinction.
Oh really?
>About the time humans outside began to become more powerful and deny the existence of youkai
>We, the humans of the village, will continue our mock battles with the youkai in order to ensure the stability of their existence

>3. It was never stated that disbelief of the outside world is lethal to youkai.
Did you even read the links posted above. There's so much evidence supporting this claim that it would take me a half an hour just to find them all.
>Youkai attack humans, and humans eliminate them. If even the appearance of this natural order were to vanish, Gensokyo's future would surely become a dark one.
>That flaw was that the youkai's inability to attack humans began to weaken their powers.
>If the human population drops, youkai will face trouble as well.
>We, the humans of the village, will continue our mock battles with the youkai in order to ensure the stability of their existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507205
Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507221
Sure sure... Enjoy debate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507226

You know that lunarian technology is a mix of science and magic right? Their weapons shoot magical bullets. Just look how their rifles shoot in SSiB.

Ran said lunarians are far superior to outside world humans because outside world lacks spiritual power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507284
Somewhat true, but most of the technology used on the Lunarian Capital is so advanced that it would appear to be magic from our human perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507234
>Youkai are infinitely physically stronger than humans, and trying to fight them will only have you end up as food.
>Since a human's power can't compare to a youkai's in the first place, it would be impossible to put up a fight

>Humans have created civilization. Nobody fears the dark anymore, not even at midnight, for they could produce light, bright as day.

Humans have chosen to put their faith in science, shunning superstition and anything that could not stand up to scientific scrutiny. Youkai, ghosts and apparitions had no place in the new world.
>Gensokyo was also deemed useless to the new world, so priests sealed it away with a permanent barrier. Youkai and the descendants of the brave humans who kept them in check were sealed away in the process as well...

>Thanks to their magical culture, youkai could easily breach the barrier around Gensokyo. However, they chose not to do so; in fact, they strengthened the seal in order to prevent more humans from entering.
>However, youkai eat humans and natural humans are favoured as delicacies. Teams of cooks regularly venture beyond the barrier to hunt humans.

[Anonymous No.]

Ran said there are more youkai today than when Yukari attacked the moon. Especially really powerful youkai. She also say that if whole Gensokyo united against lunarians they would conquer moon with ease.

And Akyu is wondering why youkai won't conquer the outside world and throw it into dark ages again. Her conclusion is: they simply don't care. They like how Gensokyo is today and don't want changes.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX9Qe3vmKIo

This is what would happen to Japan if the great barrier disappeared.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507234
Adding this to number 3:
>Under the dim light of the moon shadows are formed in all sorts of places; grasses, trees, mountains, rocks and buildings. One cannot hope to shine the Earth full of such complex shapes without creating shadows. Such shadows in various places create the human's fear and at times become legends of youkai. In a manner of speaking, the moon is the birth mother of the youkai.
Yukari just said many youkai owe their existence to humans' fear. The reason why Yukari had to create Gensokyo is that the youkai exterminators eliminated that fear, which negated the youkai's existence. Yukari created a world of illusion and fantasy that gave purpose to their existence. Had she not done that youkai would have surely perished at the hands of the humans.
>The project refers to a plan designed and implemented by Yukari in order to restore power to the youkai of Gensokyo, who felt pressured by human expansion.
>By establishing Gensokyo as an illusionary world, and the outside as the real world, the youkai weakened by the outside world would naturally flock to Gensokyo; this was a truly epochal event.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>5507378
*create Gensokyo
I meant to say create a realm in a region known as Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507378

99% of youkai are weaklings that die from one homing amulet in the games. Of course those weak types of youkai were threatened.

Named and powerful youkai are a completely different matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507378
And hey don't forget that a fundamental plot point in UFO was that exterminating too many youkai would threaten MAGIC ITSELF because of a drop in fear/belief/what have you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507395
I thought most of those were fairies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507320
>Youkai are infinitely physically stronger than humans, and trying to fight them will only have you end up as food.
Indeed, but not youkai slayers. Even Oni youkai have been exterminated by humans.

>Gensokyo was also deemed useless to the new world, so priests sealed it away with a permanent barrier.
If you read Yukari's PMiSS, it says Yukari is the one who suggested the barrier. Again, this is for the youkais' protection: "It is said that this youkai was one of those who suggested the creation of the Great Barrier and created what is now Gensokyo. "
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

>However, youkai eat humans and natural humans are favoured as delicacies. Teams of cooks regularly venture beyond the barrier to hunt humans.
It's part of the ritual to keep human fear alive:
>This is how today's pattern where youkai create disturbances every so often, and incident resolution specialists resolve them was born.
>We, the humans of the village, will continue our mock battles with the youkai in order to ensure the stability of their existence.
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento%3A_Monologue

[Anonymous No.]

I still like how SSiB was just a big elaborate plot with decoys and space travel and magic, just so Yukari could go on a beer run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507386
Pretty sure Ran was bullshitting on Yukari's behalf there, since she knew Remilia would go rogue.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507450
The big plot was just burgulary, it was Yuyuko who had the bright idea to steal something the Lunarians couldn't ever get back. But yeah the denouement was just "well let's drink!" which was cute.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507450
>>5507464

I raged at SSiB, but I really did like how it concluded. It was pretty much just everything on the moon that bothered me. I didn't even mind them losing, so much as the way they lost.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507489
I liked the moon part more when I was rereading it all in one sitting. The first time, when it was coming out one month at a time and OH LOOK ANOTHER CHAPTER WHERE SOMEONE LOSES AND SHRUGS AND EVERYONE SAMEFACES AND THE RABBITS APPLAUD THEIR MOONLORD

well obviously I did not enjoy that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507063
>3. It was never stated that disbelief of the outside world is lethal to youkai.
One last point I'll make to refute your argument for good. This is it for the night/morning?
>humans of Gensokyo are constantly under the threat of being attacked by youkai, but they need to live with that threat to live in Gensokyo.
>Youkai need to attack people because if they don’t do so, the meaning of their existence will be at risk, so youkai will attack humans.
>The lives of those who live in Gensokyo are maintained by the youkai, and if there were no youkai in Gensokyo, Gensokyo would collapse. Thus, humans will not forget the fear that they have for the youkai and yet will not exterminate the youkai that might attack them, since doing so would destroy Gensokyo.
>The opposite is also true, and if youkai didn’t have any humans to attack, the youkai would lose their meaning of existence.
>Those ones do not fear youkai, and their existence can destroy the power balance between the humans and the youkai.
Yukari then goes on to say the reason why she started the invasion of the Lunar Capital in SSiB was to make the Lunarians pay taxes for Eirin. Eirin was playing the role of a human, but she didn't have the fear of a human. Thus disturbing the balance of Gensokyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507536
Closing point, youkai are inherently stronger/smarter than humans but their (various) kryptonite makes them weak enough for a girl in her mid-teens (Reimu) to defeat them. Suika, an Oni, is one of the few youkai who wouldn't have to worry about said kryptonite. She could probably destroy the Lunar Capital by herself.

[Anonymous No.]

Are we there yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507551
>Suika, an Oni, is one of the few youkai who wouldn't have to worry about said kryptonite. She could probably destroy the Lunar Capital by herself.

Suika has her own kryptonite. Nobody expects the oni in IaMP, but if prepared, Patchouli can win against Suika, and others can as well.
The Lunar Capital's people are older than the oni and surely have an ace up their sleeves (or two).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507436
Wait, why would Humans care if Youkai existed?

Wouldn't people be better off if they let traditions die and youkai with them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5507551
If the oni were that strong, the Lunar invasion wouldn't have failed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5510358
Because it would also mean the death of their gods, traditions, culture, and way of life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504373
Can i have sauce or download link?

[Anonymous No.]

bump 4 sauce

[Anonymous No.]

>>5510497

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/DEMOUR402#Reborn_From_Omega_.282008-05-25.29

[Anonymous No.]

>>5506860
>implying idolfags are ruining /jp/ when they keep their threads condensed and stay to themselves.

YOU'RE the problem with /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

Sorry to piss all over your fanon, but ZUN agrees that:
Humans > Youkai

Reimu is a relatively weak miko yet she's able to defeat powerful youkai like Yuuka/Remilia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5510976
humans can rape youkai ? something is wrong here

[Anonymous No.]

>>5510976
>Humans > Youkai
You've lost me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5510999
>>5511013
Not all humans are stronger than youkai, only the humans who're trained to defeat youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5511013
>>5510999
Fairies are youkai.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5510976
>Reimu is a relatively weak miko yet
>She can use the power of Gensokyo's gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5505617
aya is such a slut

[Anonymous No.]

>>5512028
Still not a match for the moonwhores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504373
EX-Marisa is god tier both in looks and power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5504373
Any other doujinshis of that quality?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5510976
>Reimu is a relatively weak miko
>Able to control barriers/borders
>Able to float outside reality
>Has the normal miko spiritual powers and talismans, and a yin-yang orb to boot.

Relatively weak miko compared to what? Descended-from-a-goddess Sanae?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5512363

IIRC she didn't use that power against them. She only used it to get to them to the moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5514620
Well from Kourin's accounts in CoLA, Reimu is kind of a pushover compared to her predecessor. Yet again, the former Hakurei maidens didn't work under the spell card rules so they have the chance to be lazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5514648

Reimu is described as being lazy and not liking to train, even in the old games. She probably is a pushover compared to if she actually bothered to work to master her powers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5514648
inferior in more ways then one

[Anonymous No.]

But Reimu is an undead zombie, so yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5515145
So she's kykio from inuyasha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5515246
Kikyo would kick Reimu's ass in a fight. Hell, even Kagome could defeat Reimu. They're superior mikos because they use arrows, instead of toilet paper. The reason why I could never see Reimu fighting in a serious battle is because all she can do is throw papers at people. And not even in a badass way like Yomiko Readman from Read or Die.

Reimu's main weak point is that her attacks are virtually useless against pure-hearted people like the moonbitches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5515984

>Spell Card 215 "Fantasy Heaven"

>Supreme Master-Arts by any means. With Reimu's ability to float, she floats from everything in reality and becomes invincible.

>If it wasn't just for play (with time limit), no one could beat her with any method.

Somehow I think Reimu would stand a chance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5516037
Nice translation error. If Reimu had an ability like that she wouldn't have gotten her ass handed to her in SSiB.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5516105

色々と究極奥義。霊夢はありとあらゆるものから宙に浮き無敵となる。

もしこれが遊び（時間制限付き）でなければ、誰も勝つ事が出来ない

Have the japanese description then. Enjoy.

[Anonymous No.]

Reimu is weak.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5516160
BabelFish gives:
"Varieties and ultimate secret principles. Spirit dream from all ones floats in space and becomes invincible. If this plays and (time restriction to be attached) is not, it is not possible for everyone to win,"

Google Translate gives:
"Variety and the ultimate mystery. Reimu will be invincible from everything floating in the air. If this game (limited time), otherwise it can not win everyone"

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>>5504691

I don't know man. As much as that sounds very cool. Something seems off.

[Anonymous No.]

Suika > *

[Anonymous No.]

>Hurr Yukari is derp that durp etc
Protip:
Akyu words are not canon and Reimu is not the only playable character.

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>>5504373
Has he made any other doujinshis I should know about?

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>>5521779
http://g.e-hentai.org/?f_search=Demour402
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/index?tags=tsuyadashi_shuuji

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>>5521779
http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/DEMOUR402
http://g.e-hentai.org/?f_search=Demour402
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/index?tags=tsuyadashi_shuuji

[Anonymous No.]

Epic doujin confirmed for epic.

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>>5506806