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Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:02:45 2010 No.5441430 [Reply] [Original]

>P1: What games do you like?

>Z: If we're talking old games I like Darius Gaiden [Arcade, Taito]. At the moment I'm taking it easy and play "Oide yo, doubutsu no mori" [Animal Crossing Wild World, Nintendo DS].

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Interview_in_Swedish_Player1_Magazine

Would you play a Touhou Animal Crossing?

Youkai Crossing if you will.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:03:45 2010 No.5441433 Fund it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:03:45 2010 No.5441437 No, but I would play the fuck out Touhou Harvest Moon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:04:45 2010 No.5441443 >>5441437 Over 50 girls to choose from. The greatest Harvest Moon experience. Throw in some Rune Factory shit with Touhou elements and it would be the best game ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:06:45 2010 No.5441451 File: 26 KB, 352x288, c7c87ed1d8ec77ba685d121f0008fbd6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I would have thought someone would've made a Touhou animal crossing clone by now. Or at least a Harvest Moon clone.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Jun 21 23:07:45 2010 No.5441459 >. At the moment I'm taking it easy and play "Oide yo, doubutsu no mori" [Animal Crossing Wild World, Nintendo DS]. ZUN confirmed for secondary. UFO makes sense now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:07:45 2010 No.5441462 >>5441451 If /jp/ could do a project it might be possible....but we know it's not possible.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:10:45 2010 No.5441486 File: 10 KB, 250x211, 1269513629187.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >If /jp/ could do a project

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:12:45 2010 No.5441505 >>5441486 Is that face sadness or disgust?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:12:45 2010 No.5441509 I want to know what eroges he plays.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:13:45 2010 No.5441516 CLOOOOOOSE YOOOOOOUR EEEEEEEEYES

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:14:45 2010 No.5441522 >>5441505 I'd say it's a cross between "What is this I don't even" and "Oh boy".

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:14:45 2010 No.5441528 >>5441462 Don't bother, even /jp/'s Kumatan translation project failed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:14:45 2010 No.5441531 >>5441505 Intimidation

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:15:45 2010 No.5441534 >Kumatan translation project failed Had to remind me right? I was just getting over this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:15:45 2010 No.5441541 >>5441430 better idea! TOUHOU MMORPG

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:16:45 2010 No.5441549 Holy shit, they have magazines in Sweden?!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:16:45 2010 No.5441551 >>5441541 Valkryie Sky

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:17:45 2010 No.5441559 >>5441541 In progress. It's Chinese though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:17:45 2010 No.5441560 >>5441551 that with more touhou

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:18:45 2010 No.5441563 >>5441528 Details on this? Did the people doing it just give up or were there some technicalities that made it not worth doing? I'm asking because the game's dialogue seemed so simple that it'd take maybe a day or two to translate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:19:45 2010 No.5441567 Youkai Crossing? Sign me up! If Rinnosuke is Tom Nook, who's Crazy Redd?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:20:45 2010 No.5441577 >>5441567 Ran or Yukari

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:22:45 2010 No.5441595 You know what /jp/ should do? Make http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if2VnNWyQsM real. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:25:45 2010 No.5441610 >>5441577 I could see Yukari being Redd (maybe Ran becomes Lyle?), she's more of the sneaky type than Ran.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:29:45 2010 No.5441639 Hey, 4chan can get shit done! In fact that even made KATAWA SHOUJO.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:29:45 2010 No.5441647 >>5441639 just not /jp/.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Jun 21 23:30:45 2010 No.5441652 shit is the

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:30:45 2010 No.5441653 >>5441639 Most of the people working on it now were from deviantart and stuff like that. /jp/ did do Dandy Girl, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:33:45 2010 No.5441673 But if /jp/ ever did an original project what do you think it would be about?(It would have a bunch of touhou references for sure)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:34:45 2010 No.5441676 >>5441673 A fighting game maybe?

>>	&ponpo& Mon Jun 21 23:35:45 2010 No.5441678 >>5441673 Memefest.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:35:45 2010 No.5441679 >>5441673 See >>5441653

Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:35:45 2010 No.5441683

>>5441430
Touhou is NOT popular. ZUN has been releasing 1 to 2 games per year yet he still has to work at other jobs in order to support himself. Programmers and artist in Japan get payed chips and peanuts for their work. How pathetic.

Not to mention the fact that Touhou is his only accomplishment. Is it safe to say ZUN has whored his cashcow more than Gainax's Evangelion? Novels, OSTs, manga..., is there anything he wont put his name on?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:35:45 2010 No.5441686 >>5441653 >Dandy Girl What is that?

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Jun 21 23:36:45 2010 No.5441692 >>5441673 A horror VN with awesome art and music.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:37:45 2010 No.5441695 >>5441683 He only got a job last year.

>>	Milfeulle !.LunLunKCs Mon Jun 21 23:37:45 2010 No.5441697 >Would you play a Touhou Animal Crossing? no. But probably your mom will play it for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:37:45 2010 No.5441699 >>5441679 Dandelion Girl wasn't exactly an original project though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:38:45 2010 No.5441702 File: 37 KB, 200x260, 09xb05ps16_03[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5441683 Considering that most of that money doesn't actually go to him, I think Gainax is firmly in the lead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:38:45 2010 No.5441703 >>5441683 wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong in so many ways

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:38:45 2010 No.5441705 >more than Gainax's Evangelion? Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:39:45 2010 No.5441706 >>5441676 Yeah Maybe something like queens blade.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:40:45 2010 No.5441713 >>5441567 Rinnosuke sells Nanashin a cottage in the Magic Forest near where his own shop is, as an attempt to drum up a small village around his Shop. He figures if he can't get people to come from the village, he'll just bring the village to him!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:40:45 2010 No.5441717 >>5441706 >Queens Blade The anime is shit are the games good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:40:45 2010 No.5441719 /jp/ has more actual programmers than all of the other boards combined, and we've got people who can do music too. Do we have artists, though?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:41:45 2010 No.5441725 File: 4 KB, 298x120, koishi Mugen WIP.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5441719 I can draw a little.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:43:45 2010 No.5441742 >>5441699 Well, the art, some of the music, and... the binding of it are original.

Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:45:45 2010 No.5441756

ZUN is such a tool that he contradicted his designer philosophy in the interview.
>When you do original games it's more that you want to create everything from the base of your own vision, without taking the vision of the gamer into consideration.
The consumer knows best?
>I'm going to keep making games that stand out. If so all my fans disappear I'm still happy if I can keep doing the games *I want.
Wait what? So it's all about the producer's desires?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:48:45 2010 No.5441766 >>5441719 >>>/prog/ Not that most of /prog/ knows more than bbcode.

>>	Vector !NEy29ODpvs Mon Jun 21 23:49:45 2010 No.5441768 Touhou games do not stand out at all. They are so generic I wonder how they got so popular.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:49:45 2010 No.5441770 >>5441756 >without taking the vision of the gamer into consideration. >The consumer knows best? I postulate that you can't read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:49:45 2010 No.5441772 >>5441768 Genric troll "touhou is boring etc etc"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:50:45 2010 No.5441777 >>5441756 >Wait what? So it's all about the producer's desires? That's why it's good. Because he wants to do something good, and he dedicate himself to make it good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:50:45 2010 No.5441780 File: 964 KB, 1135x1600, 1276511583600.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5441768 This is why.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:51:45 2010 No.5441783 >>5441768 Music, porn, fighting games, fanart, memes. And then people who've never seen anything beyond euroshmups see the games and think they're so impressive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:52:45 2010 No.5441791 >>5441777 wwwwww If he cared about making it good he would actually release patches to fix all of the glaring, simple bugs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:53:45 2010 No.5441794 God damn. Touhou is so known in sweden, while in Finland like 50 person know it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:54:45 2010 No.5441804 >>5441676 But i think it's kinda hard to blance fighting games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:56:45 2010 No.5441812 >>5441804 Welcome to Sirlin's world.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:57:45 2010 No.5441819 >>5441812 Sirlin?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:58:45 2010 No.5441828 >>5441819 Ever heard of using Google? sirlin.net is his site/blog.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 21 23:59:45 2010 No.5441834 >>5441828 Sorry i thought i was an inside joke or something.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:03:45 2010 No.5441859

>>5441770
>I postulate that you can't read.
Reading comprehension error? I'll forgive you under the rare circumstance that you read that comment out of context. I'll reiterate in a durr language (that even) YOU can understand. ZUN, in one way or another, said that the people who make 'original' games are self-centered because they don't care about the gamers. ZUN's argument was that since doujin games parody existing games, they're easier on the end user. But later in his interview he went on to say "I'll continue making whatever games I feel like as long as I'm happy with them." In other words, "fuck you consumers."

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:03:45 2010 No.5441860 >>5441812 Makes me imagine a really horrible children's show. This episode brought to you by kara throws.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:09:45 2010 No.5441895 >>5441430 So why the fuck did he NOT use Curious' Chandelier's anchor attacks for Murasa? Shit was cash.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:14:45 2010 No.5441913 >I'm a Japanese and I love Japan. Calling it now. ZUN is actually half Chinese, and was born in China.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:16:45 2010 No.5441921

>>5441859
Right, but that's totally consistant:
Zun said that ones who make original games are selfish.
>When you do original games it's more that you want to create everything from the base of your own vision, without taking the vision of the gamer into consideration.
You implied this said that the consumer was always right, but how on earth does it say that?

And at the end says that he will continue the same selfish thing.
>>I'm going to keep making games that stand out. If so all my fans disappear I'm still happy if I can keep doing the games *I want.

This is totally consistant. When was talking about how doujin games were about the consumer, he says SECONDARY games, not original games. He wasn't talking about touhou as a doujin game.

TL;DR Zun doesn't contradict himself at all. If you're mad that he's saying "fuck you consumers" than that's fine, although that's pretty far from what he's saying.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:20:58 2010 No.5441938 [DELETED]

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>>5441430
ZUN is an uber casual gamer who makes games for socially inept rejects of rejects. Big surprise!

>>5441437
>>5441451
Fun fact: Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing are the only games my sister will play. Coincidence, Mr. I'm too poor to buy a nextgen console. It's no wonder why Touhou is so unpopular; come back after you've played a REAL game like Metal Gear or Zelda. These games will get you laid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:21:45 2010 No.5441945 >>5441938 >Metal Gear or Zelda Metal gear is shit but Zelda is okay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:22:45 2010 No.5441954 Personally I don't trust anything linked on 4chan that's Swedish.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:26:45 2010 No.5441980 >>5441938 sex-obsessed, identity-obsessed teenager

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:26:45 2010 No.5441986

>Not to mention the fact that Touhou is his only accomplishment.

Okay, making something that has millions of fans and has an international cult following isn't enough for you? God damn, I wish I could make something that people loved as much as Touhou.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:28:45 2010 No.5441995 >>5441986 And he helped make Graffiti kingdom didn't he?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:28:45 2010 No.5442000 File: 103 KB, 330x450, patchy ugh....jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Touhou is not popular

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:29:45 2010 No.5442005 >>5441938 Hey, it's Chris-chan's new original character. It's a fusion of Pikachu and Marisa Kirisame. Her name is Kirisachu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:29:45 2010 No.5442013 File: 9 KB, 237x251, Am I Poplar Yet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Touhou is poplar?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:30:45 2010 No.5442023 Popura-chan?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:31:45 2010 No.5442026 >>5441995 Well, you could use Reimu in it.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:33:45 2010 No.5442044
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>>5441945
>Metal gear is shit
If only the masses agreed with you. How does it feel knowing your opinion is so wrong that it cant even be considered a minority?

>Zelda is okay.
One of (if not) THE most critically acclaimed franchise in the gaming industry is okay? Thanks for letting us know you're just another weeaboo drone, who will stick up for his cartoon games as long as they are cheap and not time consuming. By definition, you're a casual gamer, unfortunately. Picture related, weeaboo games will never touch this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:35:45 2010 No.5442058 >>5442044 Really I don't really care about how popular they are I stand by what I said before now if you are done please go back to /v/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:35:45 2010 No.5442064 >>5442013 Take your /a/ macros back to /b/ you shitposter from /g/ pretending to be an idiot from /v/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:35:45 2010 No.5442065 >>5441913 At least he's not Korean, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:37:45 2010 No.5442072 >>5442044 I was not aware that something had to be popular for me to like it. Thank you for informing me of this fact, good sir.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:37:45 2010 No.5442073 Sure is starting to feel a bit robotech guy in here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:37:45 2010 No.5442075 >>5442044 >If only the masses agreed with you jesus why are so many people like this these days why can't we just like what we like?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:37:45 2010 No.5442078 >>5442044 Did you just state that the Zelda franchise is not for casuals? Oh boy..

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:40:45 2010 No.5442091 >>5442044 Go back to /v/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:42:45 2010 No.5442105 >>5441683 The huge number of Touhou-themed conventions, not to mention the amazing doujin support for it, seem to disprove your assertion that "Touhou is not popular".

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:46:45 2010 No.5442124

>>5441986
>Okay, making something that has millions of fans and has an international cult following isn't enough for you?
Can you not read? In the interview ZUN clearly said he still works at (bankrupted?) game studios that the modern world forgot about. If Touhou was half as popular as you think it is, Double Spoilers alone would have been enough to support him for a lifetime. Just face it, Touhou is not popular outside of the doujin market. Touhou's simplistic design makes it easy to parody. Games with complex genres such as Zelda and Metroid could never be as popular as primitive games such as Touhou at Comiket because they're much harder to produce.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:46:45 2010 No.5442125 >>5441683 I don't mean to be rude but you sound like an ignorant asshole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:48:45 2010 No.5442130 >>5442124 >Metroid >Complex WOW

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:50:45 2010 No.5442136 >>5442044 You're on the wrong board. Bitching about us playing doujin soft is like walking into a Chinese restaurant and then complaining they serve too much Chinese food.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:52:45 2010 No.5442146

>>5442124
>In the interview ZUN clearly said he still works at (bankrupted?) game studios that the modern world forgot about

Not many people play the games(Or buy them)That could be the reason.BTW the only reasons Zelda and Metroid are popular is because of nintendo not because they are "complex".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:52:45 2010 No.5442147 >>5442044 Does history have so much as a single recorded case of the majority being right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:53:45 2010 No.5442151 >>5442124 >Zelda >Metroid Those series have been shit since the switch to 3D.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:54:45 2010 No.5442158 >>5442124 >He sold 10000 copies of Double Spoiler for 1000 >each at Reitaisai. >That's 10 000 000 Yen total revenue. He sells his games cheap. Money and hobby don't mix. He sells a limited amount --> within the range of doujin

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:55:45 2010 No.5442164 >>5442147 Does the universe have a single recoded case of anyone being right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:56:45 2010 No.5442166 >>5442124 >If Touhou was half as popular as you think it is Wow, you can read minds to?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:56:45 2010 No.5442168 I am thinking of reporting this thread for too much /v/ bullshit. We don't want /v/ shit here. Jam a sock in it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 00:57:45 2010 No.5442178 File: 102 KB, 560x728, troll.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>complex genres such as Zelda and Metroid Okay, you're obviously trolling now. 1/10.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:00:45 2010 No.5442196 If you guys want to develop a fighting game, I can do some spriting and game design. Huge tourneyfaggot here. I was even doing one on fighter maker just for fun.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:00:45 2010 No.5442199

>>5442078
>Did you just state that the Zelda franchise is not for casuals? Oh boy..
Aside from its difficulty, Zelda is the textbook definition of a non-casual game. Zelda was the game that introduced the gaming industry to the action/adventure/puzzle genre. Before Zelda, games were all about beating your fathers highscore. Zelda was one of the first games that forced the player to find the next objective. Unlike most games at the time that only wanted you to defeat the level 4 boss! Zelda asked gamers to think/explore. In regards to its gameplay, Touhou is a post pre-Zelda game that didn't follow the paradigm shift that started with the advent of Shiggy.

>>5442130
Alright, now you're just being stupid. Metroid Prime was a FPS, platformer, RPG, action/adventure, and puzzle game. That's more genres than all of Touhou's derivative works combined. Metroid is a blend of genres. 1bit genres like Touhou are outdated. The STG and platformer genres are simple genres, hence the reason why they're dying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:01:45 2010 No.5442209 >>5442158 I guess it must suck to have to split that > $100,000 earned at the con with all the programmers, artists, and musicians that worked on the game with him, right? Oh wait, he did all of that stuff himself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:03:45 2010 No.5442226 >>5442199 Whatever i do not have anything against those game but it just seems you here to say "Hurr Touhou is so shitty because it is not new and popular" you just make your self look stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:04:45 2010 No.5442228 >>5442199 >more genres than all of Touhou's derivative works combined wwwwwwww

>>	Y10NRDY !kxh.1oTAkU Tue Jun 22 01:06:45 2010 No.5442237 >>5442199 GODDAMNIT RONNIE I TOLD YOU TO GET OFF THE DAMN COMPUTER AND DO YOUR HOMEWORK! I MEAN NOW, MISTER!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:07:45 2010 No.5442243 File: 27 KB, 320x243, cutting edge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5442199

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:07:45 2010 No.5442245 >That's more genres than all of Touhou's derivative works combined You must feel really stupid now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:07:45 2010 No.5442248 >>5442199 Go back to /v/ faggot. You are not wanted here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:08:45 2010 No.5442256 >>5442199 Please stop you are making yourself look stupid lol.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Tue Jun 22 01:08:45 2010 No.5442261 >>5442199 >That's more genres than all of Touhou's derivative works combined Oh wow.

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Tue Jun 22 01:09:45 2010 No.5442268 ABSOLUTELY

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:11:45 2010 No.5442282 It is really stupid for someone to try to talk about a subject they know nothing about.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:15:45 2010 No.5442312

>>5442228
>>5442245
Oh, I'm sorry. The Touhou doujin soft I played were so shitty that my brain went into "do not record this shit" mode. To be be fair though, there was one derivative game that was worth noting and that was Mystical Chain. One gem in a sea of shit; good job guys.

>>5442248
>I cant debunk your arguments so I'll tell you to get back to /v/.
Are you new around here? Go to easymodo and try doing a search of ZUN's name. I even have debates like this from old /a/ about ZUN.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:17:45 2010 No.5442328 >>5442312 >Mystical Chain Really!?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:18:45 2010 No.5442331 >>5442312 There was that one doujin game that got cancelled because of newgrounds. But that was just a 3d touhou.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:19:45 2010 No.5442342 >Are you new around here? Go to easymodo and try doing a search of ZUN's name. I even have debates like this from old /a/ about ZUN. http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp?task=search&ghost=&search_text=%2BJun%27ya+%2BOo ta No posts found

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:20:45 2010 No.5442353 >>5442312 The reason you are getting told to go back to /v/ is like a typical /v/tard you are doing it wrong. You don't know how to take it easy. So go back to /v/ and stay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:21:45 2010 No.5442365 /prog/ in tha HIZZLE~~~~~~

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:24:45 2010 No.5442382 Jesus this dude is annoying i would rather have Hiri and Anon-chan return than have him here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:25:45 2010 No.5442391 >>5442312 Thanks for informing us of your ignorance. Simply saying "I thought one game was shit so the others should be shit too" proves it.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:25:45 2010 No.5442393

>>5442353
>The reason you are getting told to go back to /v/
Yeah, by one person. You.
>is like a typical /v/tard you are doing it wrong. You don't know how to take it easy. So go back to /v/ and stay.
Let me guess, you got here after the name change, right? Is this the first time you've posted in a ZUN thread? Need I show you multiple screencaps of similar debates occurring on /jp/? I have a folder of them. Most of them garnered 200+ replies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:26:45 2010 No.5442394 >>hat's more genres than all of Touhou's derivative works combined. You did not do the research. http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Other_Games

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:28:45 2010 No.5442413 Man I'd argue against this guy but I think he's made enough of a fool of himself.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:30:45 2010 No.5442426 >>5442393 Go to back /v/ do not pass go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:31:45 2010 No.5442436 >>5442413 Just wait until he replies to your post telling you that you posted that as excuse for running out of arguments or something like that.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:34:58 2010 No.5442455 [DELETED]

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I promise not to "educate" you Touhou fans again if the following conditions are met:

1.You acknowledge the fact that ZUN is not the person who created your love for the Touhou universe. It was the (doujin) community who nourished the Touhou universe into a decent (I repeat - decent) franchise.
2.You acknowledge the fact that ZUN's only talent is being a failure at life. I've read stories of ZUN struggling to afford beer. Plus he doesn't have a girlfriend/spouse to boot. The guy is a loser. You're a loser. This whole damn site is filled with losers.
3.You come to the conclusion that you're never going to get laid if you continue this weeaboo lifestyle of staying up to 4:00AM in the morning saving pictures of your favoowite Touhou characters. Just remember that you are a reject (of rejects). Touhou is so weeaboo that not even the nerds of /a/ and /v/ liked it. Stop fapping to 2D images of little girls raping each other with cocks. Real females a) do not have cocks and b) aren't lesbians. All you're doing is creating a delusional view of what sexual intercourse is like. One last thing. Always practice safe sex with your partner. /d/ doujinshis are dangerous.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:35:45 2010 No.5442468 >>5442455 Enough of your /v/ faggot preaching. GTFO.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:36:45 2010 No.5442475 >>5442455 You are a failure at life who only bases what you like off of what "popular" now fuck OFF.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:38:45 2010 No.5442489 >>5442468 >GTFO Newcomers are still monkeying /b/ speak?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:38:45 2010 No.5442492 >>5442455 >Real females >b) aren't lesbians And you are an idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:38:45 2010 No.5442493 >>5442455 I get laid almost every day despite staying up past 4:00AM in the morning saving pictures of my favoowite Touhou characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:38:45 2010 No.5442497 >>5442455 I am ashamed I responded to you in this thread. You are a waste of space and a complete waste of our time. GTFO and don't ever come back here again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:39:45 2010 No.5442498 >>5442455 Even though you are a loser, at least learn how to spell.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:39:45 2010 No.5442501

>You acknowledge the fact that ZUN is not the person who created your love for the Touhou universe. It was the (doujin) community who nourished the Touhou universe into a decent (I repeat - decent) franchise.

But that isn't true. I got interested in it after watching some videos of its extra stages and stuff, and from hearing the game OSTs. Sure, I had already seen Marisa Stole the Precious Thing, but that was just a silly video to me back then.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:40:45 2010 No.5442504 >>5442489 >implying GTFO came from /b/ Cool story, you're like 16 right? That acronym is older than you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:41:45 2010 No.5442517 >>5442455 >You acknowledge the fact that Nintendo is not the people who created your love for the Zelda/Metroid/ universe. It was the Fanbase who nourished the Zelda/Metroid/ universe into a decent (I repeat - decent) franchise Okay

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:43:45 2010 No.5442527 >>5442498 >favoowite What this? It's part of the post's appeal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:43:45 2010 No.5442528 >>5442455 Oh please, not more education, anything but that, have mercy. You're not gaining any ground in this discussion, friend. I love feeding the trolls...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:43:45 2010 No.5442530 >>5442455 How long are you going to stay up aren't you only like 12 or something?

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:43:45 2010 No.5442532

>>5442455

Yeah, you're wrong. I got into it because I saw a screenshot of Imperishable Night on /v/ (back when it wasn't full of retards like you) and thought it looked awesome. I like Touhou because I like STGs, and ZUN is damn good at making STGs. All the fanon and hentai is just a bonus.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:45:45 2010 No.5442542 >>5442455 >this post got like 5 million replies despite being so obvious >my neighbor's dog's face when.png

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:45:45 2010 No.5442545 >>5442517 This goes for most of the games that nintendo makes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:45:45 2010 No.5442546 >>5442501 >IOSYS got me into Touhou. Way to contradict your own argument.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:46:45 2010 No.5442549 >>5442546 That's the exact opposite of what he said, friend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:46:45 2010 No.5442552 I'm sure this guy will fuck off if you keep responding to his low-level trolling, keep it up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:47:45 2010 No.5442555 >>5442504 Implying now? What next, "my face when?" You just made a fool of yourself.

>>	Story !SjkHabNIL2 Tue Jun 22 01:47:45 2010 No.5442556 File: 9 KB, 126x254, 683746-th06patchouli_portrait_super.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5442455 >He only stays up till 4.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:49:45 2010 No.5442567 Umm...Can we stop posting in this thread it's just one guy being an asshole we should just let it go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:49:45 2010 No.5442569 >>5442545 >>5442517 Not even close.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:49:45 2010 No.5442573 >>5442555 >my face when this guy got triples and still didn't acknowledge that GTFO has been around longer than his 13 years on this earth

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:49:45 2010 No.5442574 I can't wait till this guy says "LOLITROLLU" once he can't think of anything else

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:51:45 2010 No.5442581 >>5442569 Yes it is~

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:51:45 2010 No.5442582 >>5442574 u mad?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:56:45 2010 No.5442616 >>5442582 nah, just thinking of how this thread will go from bad to worse

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:56:45 2010 No.5442620 >>5442616 Why did you have to bump it..;_;?

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:57:45 2010 No.5442628

Don't give into peer pressure and play Touhou.

1. Touhou doesn't have a plot. And no I'm not saying it's godawful. I'm simply saying it doesn't have a plot. The character plots that /jp/ers fell in love with were created *by the fans. 90% of the time in Touhou the characters rarely talk, and even when they do talk it's only a few lines.
2. Touhou's gameplay gets old really fast. Touhou's gameplay consist of scrolling through easy levels with lame music in the background till you meet a semi challenging boss. Rinse & repeat, and that's Touhou in a nutshell. The only good Touhou is Shoot the Bullet (a.k.a the Touhou without the filler).
3. The backgrounds and sprites are laughably bad. A preteen with 7 months worth of training could draw better than ZUN.
4.The music (which I'll admit isn't as bad as the rest of the shit) gets repetitive after a while. The only reason /jp/ers like Touhou's music is because of the doujin remixes.

In summary, Touhou is a mediocre shoot em up. Play a real game like Zelda, Metroid, or Metal Gear.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:58:45 2010 No.5442632

>>5442124

>Double Spoilers alone would have been enough to support him for a lifetime

Except the game COSTS ACTUAL MONEY TO MAKE. Touhou is popular, but just because something is popular doesn't mean it actually makes money. EVERYTHING having to do with the product pretty much comes out of his own pocket. The CDs the games come on, the cases for the CD's, the little booklets with the artwork...not to mention the actual cost of shipping the product to retailers after conventions are done and their cut of the profit. He also sees nothing from the secondary merchandise made using his IP. He gets nothing from sales of merchandise related to the characters and games; it's all from the actual games. Most independents in this industry make little money...hell, I doubt 07th Expansion's paychecks aren't that great, despite creating a huge multimedia franchise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:58:45 2010 No.5442635 >>5442582 Are you a negroid?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 01:58:45 2010 No.5442636 >In summary, Touhou is a mediocre shoot em up. Play a real game like Zelda, Metroid, or Metal Gear. But those games aren't shoot em ups...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:01:45 2010 No.5442649 >In summary, Touhou is a mediocre shoot em up. Play a real game like Battle Garegga, Dodonpachi, or Mars Matrix.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:01:45 2010 No.5442651 >>5442628 I would rather play a mediocre game than shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:02:45 2010 No.5442658 >>5442628 >semi challenging boss. play it on lunatic then we'll talk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:06:45 2010 No.5442686 >>5442658 >he thinks Touhou on lunatic is hard! >laughing_raizing.pcb

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:07:45 2010 No.5442694 People are seriously replying to robotechguy these days? Wow.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:07:45 2010 No.5442695

>>5442628

>Touhou doesn't have a plot

Name a top-down shooter that does. By those standards, Touhou plots are fucking novels. The fact that there's a plot to begin with as well as established canonical personalities means that at least some work goes into creating the characters as opposed to you being "random fighter pilot saving the world from aliens for no reason."

>easy levels...semi-challenging boss

It's only easy after you spend a large amount of time memorizing patterns and knowing where gaps in defense lie. That's almost impossible for some. I find it easier to just run the fuck away from shooting things and not have to worry about the fact that my safe spot is going to be overrun within seconds by a pattern loop.

>The backgrounds and sprites are laughably bad.
>backgrounds

They're actually good now, and have been since 10.

>sprites

It's his style, and he has gotten better. Your opinion != fact.

>The only reason /jp/ers like Touhou's music is because of the doujin remixes.

I like the original tracks more than most of the remixes. Fuck your shit.

>Play a real game like zelda

Have. Too easy. The only things worthwhile in that game are the 50 level enemy rush dungeons, and even those are easy to beat.

>metroid

Have. Not as easy as Zelda, but you can get through the game and stumble across everything you need to win with minimal effort. For an "open-ended adventure game" it's surprisingly linear

>Metal Gear

I don't feel like paying 50 bucks to watch a movie with some gameplay thrown in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:08:45 2010 No.5442703 >160 posts and 13 image replies omitted. Click Reply to view /jp/ you are making me cry.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:08:45 2010 No.5442704 File: 56 KB, 238x203, bern.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Sure is trollan in here

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:08:45 2010 No.5442708 >>5441430 games like this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAVnai_crLc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:09:45 2010 No.5442713 >>5442703 It's summer.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:10:45 2010 No.5442718 [SPOILER]

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>>5442532
Imperishable Night's plot in a nutshell:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LMFDAQGS

There, I just saved you three hours worth of choppy writing, repetitive gameplay, and QUALITY art.

>>5442632
Maybe if ZUN had a real following like Hideo Kojima, his fans would support him. In truth, most Touhou fans don't care about ZUN (the developer), they just care about making a quick buck off of his less than stellar characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:11:45 2010 No.5442726 Why don't you'all go back to /v/ and play with your PS3.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:12:45 2010 No.5442739 >>5442686 >implying it isn't Get me one person who won't bitch about lunatic then I'll believe you. It takes some time and wits to get patterns until you can say it's easy. I'm not gonna argue with this guy anymore

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:12:45 2010 No.5442742 >>5442726 I play my PS3 while browsing /jp/

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:13:45 2010 No.5442744

>>5442703

Honestly, I got in here late when the thread derailed and talked about how Touhou is a shit game for people with shit tastes. My argument against that is people can't respect others' opinions and will try to prove that agreeing with them is for the best interest for everyone in the world. Self-centered fuckwads who think that they should be right no matter the cost.

The original thread started out with a nice topic that I would have been interested in, involving an Animal Crossing or Harvest Moon-like Touhou game. On that...I've never played Harvest Moon, but I loved Animal Crossing (original). It would be interesting to have that take place within the Touhou universe, and someone probably is at work making a gaiden game. A "Ghosts 'n' Goblins" gaiden game featuring Momiji as the main character has been made, as well as something akin to Earthbound or some other RPG with Sanae as the main character.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:14:45 2010 No.5442752 >>5442739 >I'm not gonna argue with this guy anymore THANK YOU!you all should follow this anon's example this asshole has been on /jp/ all day.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:14:45 2010 No.5442755 >>5441430 >my opinion is better than your opinion HUUURRRRR DUUURRRRR

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:17:45 2010 No.5442765 So anyway, who'll be the Mr. Resetti? Shiki?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:17:45 2010 No.5442768 >>5442739 I'm not one person. And I don't suppose you've 1cc'd anything by Raizing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:17:45 2010 No.5442770 File: 40 KB, 350x218, asdafse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5442628 >Play a real game like Zelda, Metroid, or Metal Gear.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:18:45 2010 No.5442776 Lets get back to the original topic please ignore the troll

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:19:45 2010 No.5442778

>>5442718

Hideo Kojima worked for Konami as an executive vice president and left to form his own company, taking Metal Gear and about 200 people with him. He'll make money if he puts out an absolute steaming pile of shit for their next game.

ZUN is one man who makes shooting games that he himself enjoys playing as a hobby. He doesn't plan on making a living out of it any time soon; no doujin or independent does.

Doujin and independent products exist solely for the fans, and the actual staff working on projects can actually lose money working on it. It follows the principle of why writers and teachers in the real world make a pittance while scientists and mathematicians make piles of cash. He's simply not doing it for money. Kojima is. You really can't compare a high-profile production company to a single developer who only creates games because he likes doing it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:19:45 2010 No.5442779 >>5442765 Yep Shiki would do great.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:21:45 2010 No.5442800 HarvestMoon Touhou>Animal crossing Touhou

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:22:45 2010 No.5442810 >>5442779 She slaps you with her paddle-thing if you reset the game. And there's also Resetti's cousin or brother who really doesn't give a shit about the job...that'd be Komachi.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:26:45 2010 No.5442842 >>5442800 Harvest Moon 64 Touhou mod where?

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:27:45 2010 No.5442853

>>5442695
>Name a top-down shooter that does.
R-type: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-Type#Bydo

>By those standards, Touhou plots are fucking novels.
A shiny turd amongst turds (in a dying brand), is still by definition a turd. No?

>It's only easy after you spend a large amount of time memorizing patterns and knowing where gaps in defense lie.
Any game would be hard if you had to go the entire game without save points.

>It's his style, and he has gotten better. Your opinion != fact.
It's not an opinion, ZUN's art is just bad. I could trace better drawings in my youth.

>I like the original tracks more than most of the remixes. Fuck your shit.
You only started to like them after hearing the remixes. Also, is it just me or do all of the Touhou games prior to Moutain of Faith make my ears bleed after a given amount of time. Then again, I do have something called standards. That might make a difference....

>Have. Too easy. The only things worthwhile in that game are the 50 level
Zelda was never about the difficulty you tool. Zelda is about its adventure/story/gameplay. Zelda is the type of game that makes you 'forget' you're playing a game. By the way, don't you have a highscore you need to beat right now, you casual gamer/jock.

>Have. Not as easy as Zelda,
See the above.

>I don't feel like paying 50 bucks to watch a movie with some gameplay thrown in.
Tighten up those graphics on level 3 please.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:28:45 2010 No.5442858 >>5442810 Thought that would be the person that takes you to the island (although Nitori would work, seeing as the guy was also a Kappa). I haven't played a Animal Crossing game since the first one on the gamecube.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:31:45 2010 No.5442883 >>5442858 >I haven't played a Animal Crossing game since the first one on the gamecube. Me either i forgot a whole bunch of people.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:32:45 2010 No.5442894

>>5442853
>Any game would be hard if you had to go the entire game without save points.
The challenge is different.
>It's not an opinion, ZUN's art is just bad. I could trace better drawings in my youth.
Apparently he intentionally sharply limits the amount of time he spends on each drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:34:45 2010 No.5442914 >>5442894 ....God just when we were getting somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:37:45 2010 No.5442930 >>5442914 The rules of debate are still active.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:38:45 2010 No.5442937

>>5442853

>without save points

The games now let you have infinite continues if you happen to use up all your lives on one level. There's also practice mode. Those are good enough save points for a top-down shooter.

>you only started to like them after hearing the remixes.

Not true. Before even picking up any of the games, I had heard...less than 5? remixes of songs from the games. Then I played IN and PCB, found and downloaded the OST's. After that did I try to find any remix, but I mostly went for jazzy stuff because I like jazz to begin with...and none of the remixes I had heard prior to playing the games was a jazz track.

By the way, Nintendo is one of my favorite companies and I love the Zelda and Metroid franchises. I'm not saying they're bad, I'm saying they're easy. As far as a challenge goes, getting to the end of the game and beating Ganon/whatever final boss Metroid has cooked up is ridiculously easy. It would have been nice if there was an actual challenge to the game once in a while instead of "use the item you just got on this boss to exploit its weakness!" One of the reasons why I think the Zant fight in TP is one of the greatest fights is because it throws everything at you, not just one tired tactic.

As far as Metal Gear...no. From what I've seen, I would spend more time WATCHING the game than actually playing. It might have been better in the first and second games, but from what I know of the 4th it's that there are more cutscenes than actual gameplay.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:40:45 2010 No.5442951

>>5442853
>Any game would be hard if you had to go the entire game without save points.
Cry me a river.

>It's not an opinion, ZUN's art is just bad.
Keep caring. I don't, as I don't play SHMUPs for the art, you tool.

>You only started to like them after hearing the remixes.
No. You are a shitty fortune teller, stop it.

>you casual gamer/jock
Sure is /v/ in here. What about you fuck off back to your Mario spinoffs.

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:41:45 2010 No.5442955 >>5442858 Who'd be the bitch who sells the turnips? And what would replace the turnips? I'm tempted to say Yuyuko, but I'm not sure. Yukari would definitely be the train master, letting you "cross the border" into other versions of Gensokyo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:42:45 2010 No.5442963 >>5442955 Yuuka?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:43:45 2010 No.5442970 >don't you have a highscore you need to beat right now, you casual gamer/jock. Guys, are you seriously still falling for something this obvious?

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:44:45 2010 No.5442974 >>5442963 Makes sense, I guess. Mayor would be Reimu. Curator would be Marisa. What about the carpet seller?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:45:45 2010 No.5442983 >>5442955 Like >>5442963 said, maybe Yuuka and sunflowers or something. If Yukari isn't the Mayor, would Keine be? I'm also guessing the Aki sisters are the clothes shop owners.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:46:45 2010 No.5442990

>>5442778
Hideo Kojima pioneered the stealth genre and created a plot that's second to none in the entire video game industry. Whoever wants to dispute this claim--be prepared for several links to professional game review websites. ZUN on the other hand just went and pirated danmaku games from his own company. It wouldn't surprise me if he borrowed the source code from some of his peers. Samidare, to name a few. This is not to say making danmaku games is hard. I used to make those games in grade school.

>He's simply not doing it for money.
He couldn't get money even if he wanted to. The creator of Duke Nukem didn't start off with a giant dev team, yet he went on to become a millionaire. Why is ZUN still living in poverty? Not even I would sully my hands with Taito. I'd sooner work with codemonkeys. A bankrupted company like that probably nets him 2 beers a week. Pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:46:45 2010 No.5442992 >>5442974 >What about the carpet seller? I don't know so i'll pick a random person.koishi?

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:48:45 2010 No.5443001

>>5442983

The tailors, you mean? That would work.

I'm still stuck on the camel from the original who would sell specialty wallpaper and carpeting. Yamame, maybe?

Keine could be the mayor. Not sure if Mokou and Kaguya would be residents or special characters, but they would have to be rivals either way.

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 02:53:45 2010 No.5443031 >>5442990 >the creator of Duke Nukem That reminds me...when's Duke Nukem Forever supposed to be coming out?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:54:45 2010 No.5443039 >>5442990 Are you STILL pitching that "It's popular and makes a lot of money so it's good" arguement? Also: >MGS >created a plot that's second to none in the entire video game industry. What the fuck.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:59:45 2010 No.5443059

>>5442990
>MGS
>a plot that's second to none in the entire video game industry
>be prepared for several links to professional game review websites

Jesus Christ, you can't be THIS retarded.

>HURRRR FALLOUT 3 IS A GOOD GAME BE PREPARED FOR SEVERAL LINKS TO 10/10 REVIEWS

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 02:59:45 2010 No.5443062 >>5443001 Their dialoge would probably change depending if the other is living in the town or not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:01:45 2010 No.5443070 >>5443031 Alongside Cirno Racing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:02:45 2010 No.5443071 So you guys just honored robotechguy with 100+ replies? Haha, oh wow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:02:45 2010 No.5443074 >>5443070 And Vampirish Night.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:02:45 2010 No.5443076 >>5443070 And Otome Function

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:04:45 2010 No.5443084 >>5443071 they just won't stop even if they know he is a troll.(and they know)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:06:45 2010 No.5443095 >>5443084 I'm trolling along with him half of the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:07:45 2010 No.5443100 >>5443071 Trolls are fun, man. They're like punching bags for rage. Letting trolls get you mad when you were calm before, and/or when you post in troll threads without saging...that's bad.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:10:45 2010 No.5443118 >>5442990 >I used to make those games in grade school. Nobody is impressed by your QBASIC mockups.

Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 03:11:45 2010 No.5443126

>>5443084

Because it's simply fun to argue over nothing with someone who doesn't care. It makes you feel better about yourself because you get rid of some excess anger in the process and feel happy afterwards. Letting a troll post get to you is a bad thing, because that could ruin your day. If you go along with a troll post and get out any anger you might have had over something unrelated, you end up having a great day and taking it easy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:12:45 2010 No.5443132 >>5443126 Oh well if you put it like that...bern you are so smart!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:21:45 2010 No.5443178 >>5442800 Harvest Moon was one of the few games that me and both my brother and sister played (and enjoyed). I'd play a harvest moon tohou game but I don't know who'd be the main since all the inhabitants of gensokyo seem terribly lazy

>>	Bern !FAGetWqs1I Tue Jun 22 03:23:45 2010 No.5443189 >>5443178 Youmu. She's actually a gardener and quite diligent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:26:45 2010 No.5443212 >>5443178 >harvest moon >HARVEST moon Clearly Minoriko should be the main

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:27:45 2010 No.5443214 File: 27 KB, 370x200, Joseph-oh-my-god.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5442455 >Real females >a) do not have cocks

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:32:45 2010 No.5443257

>>5443100
Only--said troll ended up kicking your nerd ass. Label it trolling if you want, but I've never lost a debate on /jp/. Debunk my facts, then we can talk. I have more important fish to fry.

And to the people who're still following my boast from a few months ago. I'm still working on a Touhou project that will make ZUN's games look crappier than they already do (if that's even possible at this point). I've said this before and I'll say it again, it's not Touhou, per se, that I despise; I just hate the ZUNdere fanboys.

ZUN is a terrible, writer, artist, and designer. And his music is anything but noteworthy. I'm the type of guy who gives credit where it's due. Shiggy and Kojima are god tier. ZUN, not so much.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:33:45 2010 No.5443272 Who'd be the love interests and rivals? Sure, there's plenty of characters to choose from, but i guess they would be separated by game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:33:45 2010 No.5443274 >>5443257 see (>>5442574)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:35:45 2010 No.5443291 >>5443257 3/10 You're getting weaker every time you repeat yourself. Work on it, imagine, FFS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:35:45 2010 No.5443292 >>5443274 Wow you were right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:35:45 2010 No.5443294 >>5443257 Yeah, you sure told us. >Debunk my facts >ZUN is a terrible, writer, artist, and designer. And his music is anything but noteworthy. I don't think you know what facts are, friend.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:37:45 2010 No.5443309 >>5443257 So basically you are saying >My opinions are fact! Interesting.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:40:45 2010 No.5443326 >>5443257 It's way past your bed time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:49:45 2010 No.5443384 >>5443257 Haha, awesome post, agree 100%.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:50:45 2010 No.5443389 >>5443384 Still awake?

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:52:45 2010 No.5443401

>>5443274
>>5443292
The first sentence was third-person sarcasm. Read the rest of the post, you asperger victims.

>>5443294
>ZUN is a: terrible, writer, artist, and designer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_reasoning
1. Touhou's writing is bad.
2. ZUN wrote Touhou.
3. Therefore, ZUN is a bad writer.

#define bad 1
bool zunSprites=1;
bool badArtist;
if(zunSprites==bad)badArtist=true;

Need more mathematical proofs?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:52:45 2010 No.5443403 ...is he done? Troooooll! Come back! Don't tell me I missed everything...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:53:45 2010 No.5443407 >>5443272 If Minoriko's the main then it'd be hard to figure out the interests

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 03:57:45 2010 No.5443435 >>5443401 Guess not. Again, I don't think you know what fact means. Whether or not something is GOOD or BAD is entierly a matter of opinion. And no, popular opinion is still an opinion. Respond faster, please.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:00:45 2010 No.5443461 >>5443384 >>5443389 Same person trying to sully my public image with Suigin tier samefaggotry. I don't debate the rude types like you. I'm leaving.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:01:45 2010 No.5443469 ZUN sucks shit faggots stop sucking his dxxk

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:01:45 2010 No.5443472 >>5443469 Can't spell dick? Lol, gtfo.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:03:45 2010 No.5443483 >>5443435 >Respond faster, please. I'm too busy with that thing they call a life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:07:45 2010 No.5443502 >>5443483 >I'm busy trolling other threads/boards Fixed that for you.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:11:45 2010 No.5443541

>>5443461
So don't debate with them, debate with me, who actually trying to put up a competent arguement.

...yeah, you're gone. Figures. They always wuss out when I show up. Grrrr, flex dem e-muscles, me.
On the off-chance you're still around, have some advice:

1. Don't act angry. You think anyone cares that you called them a dumb weaboo faget? Well, some do, but they arn't worth you're time. Anyone worth trolling has heard it a thousand times before, and doesn't care what Anonymous has to say about them. Besides, you're here to (in this case) convince people that ZUN/Touhou sucks, remember? Stay FOCUSED.
2. Don't act all high and mighty. "I don't care" and "I've bigger fish to fry" are easy targets for counter-arguements/trolling. If you've got better things to do, why arn't you doing them?
3. Don't EVER say something along the lines of "I owned your nerd asses." If you feel the need to say so, odds are, you most certainly have not, and in typing that, you just KILLED you're arguement/trolling attempt.
4. Don't attack spelling and/or grammar. You were good on this, power to you. This fits into the second point made in 1. FOCUS.

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>>5443502
I'll say this, you're lucky you can post with the safety of anonymity. I've sent several high profile tripfriends to their graves. Hint: there's a reason why White Ren and Suigin keep changing their trips.

I'll find out a way to get you though. I always do, and I always win. Don't be surprised if you find yourself taking refuge in some shitty/remote IRC channel like #bun in the near future. Now begone; you bore me.

>>5443118
>Nobody is impressed by your QBASIC mockups.
It carries out and is w. I made Brutal Touhou!

ｶﾞ━━Σ(ﾟДﾟ|||)━━ﾝ!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:31:45 2010 No.5443597 >>5443593 BlahBlahBlah.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 04:40:45 2010 No.5443627 >>5443593 >say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens >derp >herp derp >HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE 0.5/10 Seriously, nobody could possibly fall for this. Either resume the decent trolling or get the fuck out.

>>	Derek Tue Jun 22 04:47:45 2010 No.5443657 File: 11 KB, 1025x217, 1276143616590.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5443593 all fake; none working :( >>5443627 >>5443597 See this image.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 12:59:45 2010 No.5446234 >>5441780 Source?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 13:10:45 2010 No.5446325 What you guys have been arguing with that spic who made brutal touhou? This thread just got fun!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 13:39:45 2010 No.5446522 and then all of /jp/ started playing Animal Crossing on Nintendo DS

>>	sage Tue Jun 22 13:41:27 2010 No.5446540 >>5441683 >is there anything he wont put his name on? A goddamn anime.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 13:41:45 2010 No.5446535 File: 1.12 MB, 900x819, 1274139019436.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I don't give a damn. ZUN's games are fun, I like the music, and I gobble up all the doujin works. Gensokyo, I love all of it. One day, I will reincarnate there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 13:43:45 2010 No.5446563 >>5441683 its hard to make money from doujin stuff, even if his games are popular.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 13:45:45 2010 No.5446572 >>5441683 >is there anything he wont put his name on? A goddamn anime

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 13:54:45 2010 No.5446617 >>5446572 you just had to delete your embarrassing failure at using sage, eh?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 13:55:45 2010 No.5446619 >>5446617 Yep.

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 14:10:45 2010 No.5446732

Also, I really hate responding to a troll, but for a doujin game making the equivalent of $100,000 from a limited run of a single game is pretty damn good.

Its really not fair to compare a doujin game with a big blockbuster title, because the bigger title:

A) Has several million dollars and hundreds of people working on it.

B) Has millions of dollars put into marketing it just so people will buy the shitty game.

and C) Costs around $60, for what is usually a hit or miss experience that may or may not meet your expectations. Hell, most people don't even compete the games they buy, let alone get replay value out of them.

When you buy Touhou, you get what you pay for: Touhou. And you pay a fair price for it.

And as for how I personally got into the series, well, you would be completely and utterly wrong. I was browsing random sites trying out various doujin games because I happen to like the arcadey gameplay they tend to have. Then I come across a demo for PCB, and loved it, but could never actually figure out what series it was a part of, or where to find more. Fast forward a few years, and I find a demo for MoF, this time being able to figure out what series it was a part of. Haven't stopped playing the series since then.

So yes, the fan stuff is nice, but it is nothing but a happy bonus for me to tide me over between games.

>>	Vector !NEy29ODpvs Tue Jun 22 14:13:45 2010 No.5446758 >>5446563 Then maybe he should learn english and move to a more civilized nation. You can make fuckloads of money off a shitty hipster rhythm in America

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 14:17:45 2010 No.5446787 >but could never actually figure out what series it was a part of Remember when a "Touhou" google search gave you Godzilla movies?

Anonymous Tue Jun 22 14:18:45 2010 No.5446796

>>5446758

Zun has gotten offers on the series before. He has turned them down for the most part, barring a few outings, such as SSiB. Part of the reason there has not been an anime yet, despite there being a demand for it.

Also, it is actually pretty hard to flourish as an independent developer in the west. Especially if you aren't making FPS or puzzle games. Top down shooter is sadly not a popular genre these days. Something I hope Touhou's growing popularity will help fix. There are a lot of good shooter series out there, afterall.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 14:22:45 2010 No.5446820 >>5446787 Of course back then, the demos I was looking at were all in moon. The demo I found wasn't even on Zun's site, making it even more horribly confusing. So I didn't even have the advantage of looking up "Touhou".

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 14:25:45 2010 No.5446848 >this thread What the fuck am I reading.

>>	Vector !NEy29ODpvs Tue Jun 22 14:41:45 2010 No.5446972 >>5446796 But touhou is in a genre that you rarely see western games in, which might draw interest.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 14:46:45 2010 No.5447035 File: 450 KB, 623x340, ZUN_drink.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5441430 TRINKEN!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 22 14:48:45 2010 No.5447053 >>5446972 Its not like there aren't attempts at introducing shooters to the western market. They just don't usually fare very well. Which is saddening. Hopefully this will change someday.

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