/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

So I'm kind of learning Japanese.

I'm trying to get a base with the help of Pimsleur lessons, though I know it's a shallow one, while learning the kanas. Both are going pretty good so far, but I'd like to use a textbook too.

Any recommendations? I've looked at Genki but I don't know how I would use it for self-study as it seems to be geared towards class room work.

Thank you in advance~

[Anonymous No.]

We need a sticky saying that this is not a board dedicated to japanese language.

[Anonymous No.]

did you know moot is a thief? http:// tinyurl . com / 2w4w42o . c7d935b84234889db8023a3abb14451c

[Anonymous No.]

Like /s/ needs a sticky saying the board isn't dedicated to brunettes? Even though it isn't dedicated to it, it still fits in.

[Anonymous No.]

There is a /lang/ textboard you should try there instead of asking on the VN and Touhou board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346347
Except, it's not for japanese language, that's /lang/ and /int/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346347
lol thats what i mean good post thumbs up*

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346347
Learning the Japanese language isn't really part of "otaku culture."
Just like how learning the English language isn't really part of American pop culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346368
First good argument I've heard against it. Have to remember to use that next time this argument comes up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346368

otaku culture is people who are unusually interested in japanese (pop) culture. how in the world does this not involve learning the language?

[Anonymous No.]

Whatever faggots Japanese discussion is fine, relax.

Textbook: Japanese the Manga Way
Looks like this. Teaches grammar.
Then use Tae Kim's Guide as well, that's online. You can get Anki decks prebuilt that have exercises that correspond to his grammar lessons. There's also this, this is a real in-depth grammar lesson
http://www.timwerx.net/home/index.htm
For kanji, which I recommend studying as soon as you can read kana, go to Kanjidamage.
Most textbooks are shit.
PS to learn kana faster if you have a DS you can use a drilling app called Project JDS
http://www.qj.net/qjnet/nintendo-ds/project-jds-v130-learn-japanese-hiragana-and-katakana-on-ds.html

There you go friend, good luck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346393
>people who are unusually interested in japanese (pop) culture
No, you're using the wrong definition of otaku.
This board isn't called "Weeaboo Culture."

But anyway, I'll bite.
Yes, the Japanese language is inherently involved in Japanese media, for obvious reasons.
But so is basic arithmetic in physics.
You don't go to an advanced physics class and talk about how 2+2=4, do you?

[Anonymous No.]

Meido says this is on topic, thread stays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346415
Oh my God thank you so much!

[Anonymous No.]

Oh great, a Japanese language thread. I desperately need help too. This word is driving me mad. I just can't figure out what the kanji is. I won't be able to sleep tonight unless I figure it out.

Can anyone help me?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346368
Many people learned and are learning English by consuming American (and English translated) pop culture.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346442
>skip kanji

[Blick Winkel !arWAHAn1/. No.]

>>5346435
飛ばして
I had trouble with this one too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346435

飛ばす　とばす　= To skip over, to omit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346445
Many, many people. I worked with a guy from Sri Lanka who came to go to college in the US and he said he learned almost all his English from watching reruns of old American TV shows that showed on his local station.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346478
I've only seen it used as "to fly."
Never knew it could be used like that. Huh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346460
Oh, thanks. You have no idea how big of a relief it is to finally find out.

Heh, no wonder I couldn't figure out what radicals it consisted of, when the whole thing is considered a radical itself. I'll have to add it to my anki deck for a safer future.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346489
>>5346488

If you ever get stuck in a kanji, try using Microsoft IME pad, and just draw to the best of your ability of what it looks like. This will at least give you a starting point for the base kanji, then I'd look it up in a dictionary to make sure it isn't being used differently as in said example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346503
I tried doing it with one of those kanji dictionaries for Nintendo DS, but I haven't practiced stroke order enough to know it instinctively for new kanji, so it was pretty hopeless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346503
>If you ever get stuck in a kanji
Like 囚?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346282

did you know moot is a thief? www.anonfalk.se except t instead of f in the middle because moot is a psycho fe3b86c6722e4bbc61fd5fe0a75b77a0

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346522

The IME pad gives you many options that are close to your kanji, it saves you a bit of time in some cases.

>>5346528

I see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.]

Hm, on second thought, I suspect 飛ばす might also mean "to ejaculate on". That's the only way this dialogue could make any sense.

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>>5346368
I agree somewhat... But you have to understand English to understand American pop culture and English is still part of American culture.
I don't think OP's thread belongs here but IMO, I think there should be some laxness to that rule.

The main problem to me I think is that OP is requesting something.
But that's just my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346567
to fly; to fire; to hurl; to skip over; to omit; to drop (e.g. stitch); to run or drive fast; to gallop; to spread a rumour (rumor); to tell a story; to remove; to get rid of; (P)
>to fire
>to hurl
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346572
The main problem is that we get way too many threads asking exactly the same thing, "where do I start?", which they could just try to google instead.

But in the end, it doesn't really matter, since we just end up joking around a little about Rosetta Stone and then hijacking it to talk about our own progress with Japanese.

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>>5346415
So, in other words, you believe that everyone here invariably understands Japanese fluently and weeaboos are lesser people who are only trying to learn Japanese?
Distinguishing between Otaku and weeaboo is fucking retarded.
You can fuck off now.

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>>5346567

It may be, the JDIC shows some other entries, pertaining to fly.

(1) to fly; to fire; to hurl; (2) to skip over; to omit; to drop (e.g. stitch); (3) to run or drive fast; to gallop; (4) to spread a rumour (rumor); to tell a story; (5) to remove; to get rid of; to transfer; (6) to attack; to jeer at

私たちはその鳥を飛ばした。 We let the bird fly.
私たちは彼の順番をわざと飛ばした。 We skipped his turn on purpose

[Anonymous No.]

did you know moot is a thief? www.anonfalk.se except t instead of f in the middle because moot is a psycho f8b576dfc39c323e76ee7c85aafe40e6

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346597
Woah, take it easy, man. Don't put words in my mouth.
They taste bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346598
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346598
...
Oh, I forgot, OP is taking about kana.
Yeah, that really could be learned any where and over time, I think you'd just learn it if you looked at it enough..
OP, just look for some simple flash games or something that help with memorization.
Try to read more Japanese shit that's written in kana and if you get confused, go to Google translate and translate it from English to Japanese (yes, English to Japanese).

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>>5346285

Anyway OP, do what's suggested so far. Tae Kim, youtube resources, etc etc. One I may suggest that is a very very good resource is YesJapan. If you are serious about study, I highly recommend it. Yes, its a subscription based site, but for the knowledge you gain, it is far worth it. Plus, they post videos about japanese topics. Highly recommend it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346592
>>5346600
Yeah, rikaichan shows fire and hurl, but the JWPce dictionary just shows skip and omit.

One thing I've learned from studying Japanese is that bilingual dictionaries are horrible. My favorite example is this:
>否 【いえ】 (int,n) (uk) no, nay, yes, well, (P)
WHY, THAT DOESN'T HELP ME AT ALL, DOES IT!

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346600

>We let the bird fly

鳥に飛ばさせてくれた。

[Anonymous No.]

>>5346630
Right. Sorry.
I forgot OP was talking about kana.

That was just a misunderstanding. I get what you're saying now.
Weeaboo isn't really well-defined. I thought you were using it a different way.