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Hey /jp/ I liked Fate/Stay Night, will I like Tsukihime? I've been meaning to play it for awhile but I've always been put off by the shitty art.

>> No.5279824

You should read Higurashi instead.

>> No.5279823
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5279823

You will love it.

>> No.5279834

Personally, I like Tsukihime's story better, but that's probably just because my wife Saber doesn't get the perfect end until Realta.

>> No.5279831

Most people like it better. It's a lot more tasteful and not as ridiculous as FSN.

>> No.5279837

It's just as bad.

>> No.5279870

Not if you're one of the people who read F/SN for the fights and powerlevels and bitch about cooking scenes. Tsukihime has a lot less action. Otherwise there's a good chance you will. Personally I like it more than F/SN, though they're both great.

>> No.5279875

FSN is shit compared to Tsukihime.

>> No.5279883

Tsukihime is way overrated, but has a few good parts. If you like meidos, vampires and long outdrawn unrealistic sex scenes, you will probably like Tsukihime.

>> No.5279890

The endings are generally poor and most of the characters are underdeveloped or underutilized. A lot of the game strikes me as wasted potential; so much more could have been done with the plot that... wasn't. Also, both Tsukihime's villains and BGM are pure shit compared to F/SN. Like, the music is just BAD.

Still, you should try it for yourself and see.

>> No.5279898

>>5279890
Sure is strawman argument in here.

>> No.5279902

>>5279890

That's a shame, the music was one of my favorite things in FSN. I guess I'll give it a shot though, thanks guys.

>> No.5279908

>>5279890
>Like, the music is just BAD.

That's why you should replace the music with Tsukihime anime soundtrack. Just replace each song with another one that has a similar mood. Just do it, it's worth it.

>> No.5279915

>>5279908

There is a Tsukihime anime?

>> No.5279918

>>5279908
Replace all tracks with 'Justice'.

>> No.5279921

>>5279915
No, but there is a soundtrack for an unmade Tsukihime anime.

>> No.5279925

>>5279908

I did this too, but that doesn't excuse the original music for being terrible.

>> No.5279929

Of course, FSN is shit.
Tsukihime is actually good.

>> No.5279931

>>5279902

There's nothing wrong with the music, people like to.exaggerate.

>> No.5279942

>>5279890
Neither Tsukihime nor F/SN have good villains.

I'd also say Tsukihime has a better soundtrack. There aren't enough songs but what's there is better on average than F/SN's.

>The endings are generally poor
What is this I don't even.

>> No.5279949

>>5279929
Tsukihime is also shit.

>> No.5279950

>>5279875
>>5279831
faggots detected.

Tsukihime doesn't play near as well as Fate and has tons of stereotypical early VN shittiness. Go through Ciel route and Akiha route and you basically learn everything you would ever want to know, the others are more or less rehash.

Most Tsukihime fans are grimdark emo boys who are enamored of Shiki's "I can kill everything with eyehax am i cool yet" mode and the manchildren these same kids nostalga bomb themselves into later in life because it was their first VN.

KnK does dark mystery better, Fate does story and battles better.

>> No.5279952

Tsukihime is the better literary work.

FSN is the better budgeted work.

>> No.5279961

>>5279950
I love you, anon.

>> No.5279973

>>5279950

>HERP i am easily enamored with flashy gimmicks

>> No.5279970

>>5279950
1/10

You didn't even try.

>> No.5279964

>>5279950
You're just blinded by the colors of FSN. Shonenfag

>> No.5279965

>>5279929

I think people's opinion on this has a lot to do with which one they played first.

Neither are really -that- bad.

>>5279931

It's bad compared to other VNs of the same quality.

>> No.5279986

>>5279973
>HERP i am cool because i claim a different opinion than the majority

>> No.5279988

>>5279973
DERP I think Tsukihime actually have depth.

>> No.5279996

>>5279942

The only good endings in the game are Ciel's and Akiha's True. Hisui's True ending isn't bad either.

All the other endings are terrible. Arcuied's especially.

>> No.5279999

>>5279986

Excuse me? on /jp/ at least Tsukihime seems to be more favored.

>> No.5280010

>>5279999
only because most faggots on 4chan try to be cool by rebelling against the majority opinion, which is deliciously ironic

>> No.5280011

>>5279996
>Arcueid True
>terrible
Fuck yo shit

>> No.5280012

>>5279996
CIEL IS SHIT, AND AKIHA'S IS DEPRESSING UNTIL KT'S EXTRA STORY, THEN IT'S JUST RETARDED.

>> No.5280017

>>5279965

You and a lot of people seem to not grasp that Tsukihime is fairly old for a VN, it's going to be rough around the edges compared to something released 5 years later. That's not going to keep anyone with taste from enjoying it, it didn't keep me from enjoying MOON.

>> No.5280028

>>5280012
Akiha's true ending is the only good ending. Sure, it is depressing but it is good.

>> No.5280033

>>5280011

Arcuied's True is just the game trying really, really hard to make the player feel sad, and it's completely invalidated by her Good ending.

Arc True: BAWWW SHIKI I HAVE TO LEAVE YOU BECAUSE I AM STILL LOSING IT
Arc Good: HERP DERP I'M OKAY NOW CAUSE I SLEPT FOR A WEEK

Seriously, what!? The only dumber ending is Kohaku's.

>> No.5280039

>>5280033
>True ending
>invalidated by Good ending
>True invalidated by not True
You want me to sock you?

>> No.5280041

>>5280017

It's still very, very unpolished in both story and presentation.

>> No.5280046

>>5280033
I was sad with Arc's ending. You're a fag.

>> No.5280048

So many strawmen in this thread. Can't we just accept that someone might have legitimate reasons for preferring one over the other?

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5280050

Dark Kiss Mark is the only true ending.

>> No.5280053

>>5280039

So you're implying that Arc CAN'T regain her sanity by taking a nap for whatever reason in the True End?

"True End" in Tsukihime seems to be shorthand for "Pointlessly Sad End".

>> No.5280054

Tsukihime's BGM was horrible and the main reason why I never finished it. I mean 1min loops of PLEASE STOP RAPING THAT POOR PIANO was just too much. Character art and backgrounds were shit too. The fight scenes were ridiculous and the writing style was... unique at times.

I rather liked the story and characters though, so I've been thinking trying it again with that rearranged BGM I think I've seen floating around. That or I could try F/SN and play the Tsukihime remake when it's done.

>> No.5280059

>>5280054
>Tsukihime's BGM was horrible and the main reason why I never finished it.

>>5279908

>> No.5280061

>>5280054

Do this. Tsukihime desperately needs the remake.

>>5280050

Mostly because there'll be a Satsuki route.

>> No.5280063

>>5280053
Good end shows that Shiki was able to save Arcueid in time. True end shows he wasn't able to. Fucking retard.

>> No.5280070

>>5280061
I hope they flesh out dark kiss mark with sacchin murdering arihiko. That'd be such an awesome scene.

>> No.5280066

>>5280041

No it's not, shut up.

>> No.5280077

>>5280054
>play the Tsukihime remake when it's done.
Enjoy waiting 5 years. Twice that if you don't know moon.

>> No.5280095

>>5280066
Yes, it is. It is badly written in places, the BGMs are shit, the plot and especially the good endings are rather unbelievable, certain information is repeated ad naseum.

>> No.5280110

>>5280095

the same can be said of FSN.

>> No.5280119

>>5280110
Absolutely. I'm not a big Type_Moon fan at all.

>> No.5280122

>>5280110
You mean something written by the same author can have the same flaws?

That's just nonsense.

>> No.5280141

I liked both VNs, and I recommend Tsukihime. It's still good, despite its lackluster presentation.

I'd recommend getting Tsukibako, since you'll get slightly better music, and there are translations available for all three games.

>> No.5280167

Tsukihime is great.
Fate/Stay Night is shit.

Don't feel like discussing more in this thread.

>> No.5280228

>>5280061
> Satsuki route
I've heard rumors that a Roa+Nero teamup would be involved in such a route. Confirm/deny?

>> No.5280234

>Hey /jp/ I liked Fate/Stay Night, will I like Tsukihime?
I don't know. It depends on what aspects of FSN interested you. I prefer Tsukihime's setting and exposition, but your mileage may vary.

As for poor artwork (and admittedly below average soundtrack), I'd compare it to SNES-level graphics--some people can't stand it anymore, but for me it's good enough so I don't mind.

Just start reading it and see if the story draws you in enough to continue, poor artwork notwithstanding.

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5280414

Don't play it OP. It has terrible eroCGs.

>> No.5280482

The art is adequate. Give the game a try. I loved Fate but I had even more fun with Tsukihime.

>> No.5280608

Debates about the production quality? People keep forgetting that Tsukihime is a doujin project and F/sn is a commercial one.

>> No.5280614

>>5280608
That's why there's too many strawman arguments in this thread.

>> No.5280637

Make sure you download the "Ever After" Tsukihime sound traks. Makes the game much better.

Actually, here is a torrent for both the game and the soundtrack remake. You just need to replace the files IIRC

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4244030/Tsukihime___Ever_After_soundtrack
And in my opinion, Tsukihime is much better. Though it is older, so it does lack some of the pretty art and special effects you see in F/SN.

>> No.5280643

>>5280614

Fuck, you need to learn what a strawman is, butthurt typemoonfag.

>> No.5280672

i thought he was remaking this game for the near future?

>> No.5280682

>>5280672
Yea, rightn after the one about Aoko is finished,

However, if the remake carries as much as is rumored, there will be ALOT to translate, and Mirrormoon has all but fallen apart. No idea who'd pick it up.

>> No.5280699

>>5280643
Except he's right in this instance. You're arguing that Tsukihime (doujin-project) is shit because Fate (commerical work) is better - classic strawman as you're bringing up something that is irrelevant to the argument (apples and oranges comparisons are part of strawmen in terms of logical fallacies).

>> No.5280705

>>5280682
ya wtf Mirrormoon

>> No.5280731

>>5280705
My feelings exactly. But they all have their own lives, and they did this for free. Atleast the gave us Utawarerumono and Windom before essentially going on a hiatus.

Why know, maybe Aoko's game or the Tsukihime remake will spark a flame that is them getting back together.

>> No.5280767

Type-Moon seriously need a new franchise.

>> No.5280799

>>5280767
One not set in nasuverse you mean?

>> No.5280833

>>5280767
What about Girls' Work?

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>>5280799
They've done it already.

>> No.5280852

Okay I have Tsukihime and the mirror moon patch installed, how do I get the music working?

I'm gonna play it with the default music the first time through, and I know it's on the disc. How do I rip it?

>> No.5280895

>>5280852
Any number of programs should be able to do that for you. I used CDex, but there's probably better alternatives.

There's a simpler option. It shouldn't be hard to find the music already uploaded on RS or other places; try checking >>>/rs/tsukihime+music&from=ALL

>> No.5280913

>>5280833
Oh man, I had completely forgotten about that. Shits never coming out, is it?

>> No.5281079

What exactly is the Tsukihime Ever After soundtrack?

Is it a remake Type-Moon did?

>> No.5281110

I like Fate/Stay Night more. The music, artstyle, and story are just better than Tsukihime.

>> No.5281134

>>5281079
It's music that Type Moon did. All the tracks are remakes of those from Tsukihime. All of them are of much higher quality, and played on actual instruments rather than being synthesized.

>> No.5281147

>>5281134

So what I should do is get the Ever After music?

>> No.5281167

I like Tsukihime more than FSN.
So there.

What's with the bashing of the BGM?
I admit that it's not amazetastic but come on it's not bad.
It fits the game well and it really grew on me.
It could have used a few more tracks but it was fine.

I do expect more and better tracks in the remake, but this isn't about the remake.

>> No.5281171

>>5281147
Definitely. The torrent I liked has the game and the ever after tracks properly named and formatted for used in the game. Just drag them into the music folder after you finish installing it.

>> No.5281223

>>5281171

Well the thing is I already have the game so I don't really want to download the entire thing for just the music. Is there somewhere I can get just the Ever After soundtrack, set up for use with the game?

>> No.5281240

>>5281223
You need to use a better bittorrent client then.

>> No.5281258

>>5281240

Nevermind I'm retarded. Thanks guys.

>> No.5281268

>>5281223
Note that one of the results listed in >>5280895 has the Ever After tracks. Honestly I don't think the Ever After music is that much different. I actually prefer the original music, but that's probably because it grew on me.

>> No.5281313

>>5281268
While I do agree that the original tracks are excellent, and really do not NEED a replacement, for someone who is new to the game, it may be a nice to touch. Not to mention that I tend to listen to the Ever After tracks while I am swimming, and I freaking love them too.

What he feels is all that matters anyway. So if he compares stock and Ever After, and he enjoys one better then that is his decision.

inb4 being castrated for logic

>> No.5281362

Is there no Fullscreen option for Tsukihime?

>> No.5281366

>>5281362
Not really.

>> No.5281479

Actually, the lack of BGM is tsukihime's charm.

It made scenes more intense, from Shiki's heartbeat to the sudden slashing of his knife.
It made it more like a true horror VN.

>> No.5281490

Oh cool, apparently there's a PSP port. I'm gonna try; since there's no fullscreen and the visuals aren't that great I'm not gaining much by playing it on the PC anyway.

>> No.5281515

>>5281479
Every After does not add BGM, it just replaces the ones already there.

>> No.5281536

>>5281490
There is a fullscreen option. Try alt+enter or f.

>> No.5281559

>>5281536
lol no

>> No.5281717

>>5281559

I'm playing it in fullscreen right now, is there something wrong with that?

>> No.5281917

>>5281490
ctrl+F will fullscreen it.

For some reason it doesn't work until you get to the title screen though.

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