How is it possible for a game with recharging bombs, auto-guard, abundant lives, and a passive aura that slows down projectiles to be this hard?

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Anonymous Tue May 25 14:49:10 2010 No.5214667 [Reply] [Original]

How is it possible for a game with recharging bombs, auto-guard, abundant lives, and a passive aura that slows down projectiles to be this hard?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 14:52:10 2010 No.5214698 >>5214667 Holy shit I was just playing this earlier today. Mindgames = broken tier

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 15:07:10 2010 No.5214789 >>5214698 Yeah, that period of invincibility produced by the concentrated secondary weapon and the awesomeness of the tracking black lasers do make a pretty powerful character.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 15:13:10 2010 No.5214829 I need to stop trying to kill the first boss the hard way.

Anonymous Tue May 25 15:15:10 2010 No.5214839
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Does anybody happen to know what the setting with "Unplugged" and "Distorted" and such in the options menu mean? Is it a difficulty level or what?

Also GLORIOUS ENGRISH EVERYWHERE, picture presented hasn't got shit on this.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 15:23:10 2010 No.5214901 >>5214839 Rank, which is basically the same thing as difficulty.

>>	VanDarkholme !Fm1nltMd1. Tue May 25 15:24:10 2010 No.5214908 And I still dont know how to play this game because of how many gauges there are...

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 15:25:10 2010 No.5214913 >>5214908 http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=26334

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 15:56:10 2010 No.5215090 What does it mean when there's no boss on stage 4 then you are transported to this weird level with walls everywhere?

Anonymous Tue May 25 16:02:10 2010 No.5215131
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I'm happy to see this game getting some recognition, I played it years ago and still love it. The engrish is absolutely awesome and even though the menus and options and controls seem convoluted if you stick to one character you can learn them well, and everything has a purpose its not just there to add complexity.

Also I never beat the game in my years of playing lol. The farthest I got was the Apostles of the Seed I think.

Anonymous Tue May 25 16:04:10 2010 No.5215144

1. Rank setting (difficulty)
Movement setting

2. Number of MAX lives
Amount of hearts needed for next extend
Amount of lives currently
NOTE: Immortal means you've hit max lives and every new life you recieve will give you an increasing spirits bonus starting from 80 points.

3. Sol gauge (Bombs and guard)

4. Luna gauge (Heat/Power gauge of your main shot)

5. Sub weapon meter (What it means depends on the character you are playing)

6. Stella (Rank) (10 different rank levels, lowest is 1 and highest is A)

7. Name of the enemy you are currently shooting

8. Terra Meter (When this meter goes to 0 next level will be Shrine of Farewell)

9. Sealed enemy (Going close to some enemies will seal them making them unable to shoot)

10. % of health enemy has left
# of spirits you recieve if you kill the enemy (Will increase on certain conditions)

11. a token chip

12. Number of spirit bonus recieved from killing an enemy

13. a sol chip (increases sol gauge)

14. Bootleg ghost settings
Guard (if available) and amount of guards left during this stage.

15. Spirits recieved before this level
Spirits recieved during this level
BREAK means you've hit the spirit break (5000 spirits) which gives you an extra extend.
The 3 meters below simply are spirit gain. The highest is ones, the middle one is tens and the lowest is hundreds (of spirits).

16. Amount of kills
Kill break is at 5000 kills (?)

17. Amount of Tokens

18. Time spent on current level

19. Token level and amount of needed for next token level
NOTE: Tokens are separate from spirit score completely.

20. Unchain bonus When you kill a master that has other enemies chained into it you will recieve a spirit bonus marked in blue at this spot.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:05:10 2010 No.5215149 File: 133 KB, 640x480, hhhhhn.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215144 I've played flight simulators that were less preposterously overcomplicated than this.

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Anonymous Tue May 25 16:09:10 2010 No.5215175

>>5215144
The scoring is a clusterfuck of epic propotions with multiple different meters and rank levels

That being said I really like how the game has so complex mechanics. All the characters have different weapons and shit and the individual characters even have multiple different weapons.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:09:10 2010 No.5215174 >>5215160 >Super Pause wat

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:11:10 2010 No.5215182 >>5215090 That's just the stage before the Perpetual Calendar (boss/ boss rush type thing). Just navigate the maze, whether you end on the orange (sol) or blue (luna) side determines in which order you fight the sub-bosses of the Perpetual Calendar

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:12:10 2010 No.5215186 File: 31 KB, 640x559, 1257522340612.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Complexity: a valid replacement for good game design.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:12:10 2010 No.5215188 >>5215090 Also if there is ever no boss on a stage, that means your Stella is super low and you're doing poorly, the game will skip some bosses if you're not doing well.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:17:10 2010 No.5215216 Sauce please

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:17:10 2010 No.5215218 >>5215188 Darn, I'm not even close to unlocking Kagura

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:18:10 2010 No.5215221 /jp/: Touhous VNs Mahjong Idols Shmups?

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue May 25 16:18:10 2010 No.5215224 >>5215221 >crossdressing >Little-Girlan >Cumming insidan >Anal masturbatan You forgot some stuff, Anon!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:19:10 2010 No.5215226 File: 118 KB, 800x600, JnG 2007-09-05 21-29-16-67.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You'd think a game that doesn't have lives and has infinite bullet time couldn't be this hard either.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:20:10 2010 No.5215238 >>5215224 Did you finish that story about Reimu groping Yukari's rude titties, Arc?

>>	Vector !NEy29ODpvs Tue May 25 16:20:10 2010 No.5215239 >>5215226 That shit is easy once you get enough money.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:20:10 2010 No.5215233 >>5215186 Is that supposed to be sarcastic or ironic?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:23:10 2010 No.5215258 >>5215224 Arc's typical Friday night right here.

Anonymous Tue May 25 16:23:10 2010 No.5215260
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>>5214698
Her name is actually Minogame, I thought it was Mindgame too at first. Yeah she is pretty broken, complicated to use, but very powerful. She is also a canon hermaphrodite.

Maybe /jp/ will be more interested now.

Anonymous Tue May 25 16:23:10 2010 No.5215263

>>5215239 once you get enough money.
Which happens after you finish the game.

And if you play on Hard it goes like this:
- Enemies take more hits, so you need better weapons
- To get better weapons, you need more money
- To get more money, you need to destroy more enemies

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:23:10 2010 No.5215265 Name of game please

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:24:10 2010 No.5215275 File: 126 KB, 640x960, f_20080928.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dumping some fanart if no one minds

>>	Vector !NEy29ODpvs Tue May 25 16:24:10 2010 No.5215276 >>5215265 Hellsinker

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:25:10 2010 No.5215278 >>5215265 Hellsinker.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue May 25 16:25:10 2010 No.5215286 >>5215238 In a sec, I just touched down at my home. Time for a shower and a shave and whatnot because I am gross and disgusting right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:25:10 2010 No.5215279 What is the story behind hellsinker anyway?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:26:10 2010 No.5215291 File: 46 KB, 525x700, brafu77.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215265 HELLSINKER. It's in the OP's filename. >>5215226 Is Jets N' Guns

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:27:10 2010 No.5215297 Minogame isn't that good at dealing damage.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:27:10 2010 No.5215301 File: 103 KB, 800x560, ketubetunoreibyou3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:28:10 2010 No.5215307 Is the full version out?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:29:10 2010 No.5215316 File: 181 KB, 1000x750, fossilmaiden.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215307 Only as of like 3 years ago, yeah.

Anonymous Tue May 25 16:29:10 2010 No.5215314
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>>5214667
>>5215226

In the easiest difficulty setting of Midwinter, enemies don't deal damage to you. It's impossible to lose a fight in it. And it's still insanely difficult.

(so have we stopped pretending this board has anything to do with Japan or what?)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:29:10 2010 No.5215312 File: 90 KB, 496x650, 3054100.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215297 True, compared to powerhouses like some of Kagura's forms, but (s)he's very good at cheating her way out of taking hits

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:31:10 2010 No.5215327 File: 172 KB, 781x770, 14809.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215314 Well, HELLSINKER is a Japanese doujin game at least. I think if it was released at Comiket, it counts as "Otaku Culture"

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:31:17 2010 No.5215331 >>5215286 You're black, your always gr- Just kidding, I love you Arc!

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:32:10 2010 No.5215333 File: 253 KB, 850x850, 3665060.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Moe-est final boss

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:33:10 2010 No.5215343 File: 111 KB, 750x1000, 45318.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:33:10 2010 No.5215349 File: 89 KB, 750x1000, 48342.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:34:10 2010 No.5215355 File: 172 KB, 970x370, 4283885.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A cast to give ZUN a run for his money

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:36:10 2010 No.5215366 File: 123 KB, 800x600, f_20071028.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:36:10 2010 No.5215374 Oh hey I can just kill the first boss' shooty parts so I can destroy the core easier.... OH GOD MY FACE

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:37:10 2010 No.5215375 What is suppose to be happening in hellsinker? Are you a ghost trying to escape hell or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:37:10 2010 No.5215377 File: 273 KB, 1032x795, 1213526668063.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Have you played with your 3D custom "girl" today /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:38:10 2010 No.5215388 >>5215374 That's one reason why you shouldn't play Minogame, she can't only damage the first bosses core.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:41:10 2010 No.5215404 File: 322 KB, 500x650, 2371751.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215375 It took me a year to learn all the mechanics and gameplay and options, but I NEVER learned what the game is about exactly... I love it anyway though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:41:10 2010 No.5215409 >>5215260 >she is pretty broken, I'd make her broken, if you know what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:42:10 2010 No.5215418 File: 381 KB, 600x800, 3456943.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] KEEP YOUR DIGNITY.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:43:10 2010 No.5215424 File: 450 KB, 600x800, 1920521.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215409

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:43:10 2010 No.5215425 Would you call Hellsinker a Danmaku?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:45:10 2010 No.5215432 File: 467 KB, 500x690, 2371705.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215425 Definitely. The shots might not be as slow and dense as Touhou or something, but its danmaku.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:45:10 2010 No.5215436 >>5215425 >danmaku >not touhou WHAT

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:46:10 2010 No.5215446 File: 119 KB, 430x640, unnamed771.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:48:10 2010 No.5215458 File: 417 KB, 1000x1117, 1978711.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] For some reason I thought Temperament Nil was male before I saw fanart.

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:55:10 2010 No.5215500 >>5215472 What is that robot thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:56:10 2010 No.5215512 File: 14 KB, 500x500, 1195114481768.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215500 Kagura, the fourth playable character.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:56:10 2010 No.5215518 File: 15 KB, 500x500, 1195114954606.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215512 has 4 different playable "forms"

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:57:10 2010 No.5215528 File: 12 KB, 500x500, 1195115179475.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 16:57:10 2010 No.5215533 File: 11 KB, 500x500, 1195114702804.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:03:10 2010 No.5215603 /v/ shit

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:04:10 2010 No.5215621 File: 135 KB, 900x600, 3551049.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215603 /v/ loves doujin shmups with 100 fans, accompanied by imagedumps of kawaii anime catgirls from said game.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:06:10 2010 No.5215631 File: 136 KB, 1080x1494, 1202903828905.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not sure how I feel about this.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:34:10 2010 No.5215869 >>5215512 Why is there a mech in this game?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:38:10 2010 No.5215908 >>5215869 The robot has to be the least insane thing about this game.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:38:10 2010 No.5215910 my favorite shmup of all time. Feel broken, i agree, but it mostly mean you need more skill. The ost is awesome btw.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:43:10 2010 No.5215951 File: 84 KB, 600x800, scarlet-queen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5215869 Have you not played it? There are a lot of "mech" characters/bosses. It's not just lolis.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:50:10 2010 No.5215994 Every so often I read up on the mechanics of how this game works, but after not playing for a few months I forget it all and then it's just a bunch of numbers and gauges and flashing lights.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 17:54:10 2010 No.5216022 >>5215226 Shitty euroshmup

>>	Anonymous Tue May 25 22:40:10 2010 No.5217905 File: 199 KB, 640x480, hellsinker.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finally beat stage 4 without continuing. Now I don't have to fight FUCKING GLORIOUS SYMBOL anymore. Not sure if I like Kagura, and what is all that text after unlocking her?

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