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Do these people usually have some experience in art classes or are they just genius? http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2358280

>> No.517447

It's called "Japanese".

>> No.517452

>>517447
I'm Japanese but I can't do all that shading shit.

>> No.517460

>>517452
Then you aren't Japanese. Just Asian.

>> No.517461

>>517452
translate mah anime lolz XD

>> No.517908

What program is that in the video?

>> No.517924

>>517908
SAI

>> No.517927

>>517908
SAI

>> No.517977

>>517444
Holy shit, he uses a really old version of Photoshop. So the Japanese really don't pirate anything.

>> No.517988

>>517908
If you are looking for the program, search google for "Paint Tool Sai" and there should be a cracked version on the web somewhere.

>> No.518018
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1144996
This is my favorite

>> No.518026

It's called practicing for years and years.

>> No.518027

these people are just like robots or machines, they dont have ANY CREATIVE thing in their lifes, they just copy what they see, thats why they can make stuff like this.

lol moonpeople

>> No.518028

>>517977
that's not photoshop, retard.

>> No.518035
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>>518018
Whoops, have a bigger version

>> No.518037

>>518027
jesus christ learn some grammar.

>> No.518041

>>518027
How the fuck do you manage to stay alive while being so retarded?

>> No.518046

its just practice.

Typical American douchenozzle will tend to give up after the first week or so because they havent progressed from shitty to Tony Taka in a single week.

>> No.518049

>>518046

Or worse, they go down to ZUN.

>> No.518050

>>517977
>>517988
JAPANESE PEOPLE ARE PURE AND HONEST!

UNLIKE KOLEANS AND CHINKS

>> No.518053

>>518018

Holy fuck, that's amazing

>> No.518059

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1204374370
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1204010585
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/1194675869

there are tons of these videos on moontube.
most of them use photoshop 5, sai, or corel painter as far as i know.

>> No.518084

>>518049 go down
I don't think I can go down.

>> No.518085

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm2924410

>> No.518117

/r/ good books to improve our drawing

>> No.518210

>>517977
lolwut

>> No.518218
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518218

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm915220

i'd go to art school to learn how to draw like these guys but then i'd become an art major which is entirely useless except for the fact that you can show everybody online that you drew something cool.

>> No.518246

>>518218
You don't have to go to art vocational school. Just take a class here and there and practice when you have free time.

>> No.518269

>>518218
I can't draw worth shit and I make a living doing graphic design.

>> No.518298

>>517447
A lot of Japs sucks shit at drawing. Just pick up any megazines like G's magazine and flip to the page where people send in submissions of their artwork for some major QUALITY drawings.

tl;dr - Japs just practice a lot

>> No.518345

>>518117
'The "How to draw manga" books

>> No.518829
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this was the worst drawing i could find out of 32 pages on a jap board where they post pictures that they drew.
either they are forced to take art classes and have really good teachers or they are natural born artists. this drawing isn't terrible and there were at least 400 images i sorted through to find one bad drawing.

>> No.518842
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ok i take that back, i managed to find one that sucked even more.

>> No.518875

It's because we have websites like DeviantArt that promote people throwing up the first thing they draw for mass consumption. And once it's up it gets comments by conceited, lying whores with their own agenda, saying how great it is to try and increase their own hits and popularity, rather than to encourage the artist to improve.

There are plenty of bad Japanese artists; you only need to pickup a monthly manga compilation to find this out.

>>518028
RAGE.

>> No.518881

they use old versions of photoshop (ive seen some using 4-5 and doing amazing illustrations) the one on op is Corel Painter

and its normally practice

>> No.518918
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>>518027
I think you are talking about DeviantShit.

>>518875
There are a lot of bad japanese artists, that's a given.

But look at how many good present-day artist they have compared to the entire western world. Hell, compared to the rest of the world.

They have a lot more good artists.

>> No.518930

>>518018

>>http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm1144996

This music is fucking awesome. Anyone know what it is?

>> No.518956

I've been wanting to draw, any ideas on how to get good?

>> No.518959

>>517444
Sorry for offtopic, but the OP has a comment that contains the word "サムネ". I see this quite a lot, what does it mean?

>> No.518962

>>518930
The second track is
Yoko kanno - torukia

>> No.518970

>>518875

It's not so much "conceited, lying whores" and "agendas", it's that a lot of people today honestly don't understand what constructive criticism is, either how to give it or how to take it.

>> No.518989
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518989

I'm reminded of this.

>> No.518993

I really wish we had a series of books that would deal with "How to draw mango that doesn't simply look like american comics with some of the most egregious aspects of the Japanese visual culture thrown in at random to make it exotic and hip with the kids"

>> No.519000

>>518956

Practice. After that, practice some more.

>> No.519007

>>518989

Fuck, I raged.

>> No.519110

>>518956
copy other peoples drawings until you can draw something yourself.
take up art class at some shitty community college near you and learn anatomy by drawing naked people.

>> No.519155

>>518018

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SAUCE ON THE MUSIC
i'm jizzing visually and aurally

>> No.519199

>>518918
True, but don't think there's only a small pool of other artists that suck.

http://www.conceptart.org/forums/
http://forums.cgsociety.org/index.php?

Koreans have their fair share in the digiart business as well.

>> No.519219

>>519199
Funny thing is, if you are not an Asian typing in broken english in those forums you are condemned for drawing anything remotely resembling "anime" or "manga".

>> No.519293

>>519219
drawing anime is asia only, no foreigner please!

>> No.519322

>>519293

Then watching our movies and listening to our music is for Westerners only.

Bam. Effectively 80 percent of your entire entertainment industry is gone.

You have us to thank for your entire society today, by the way. You'd still be sucking the emperor's dick thinking you'll taste his god juice like fucking barbarians if it weren't for the good USA.

>> No.519349

>>519322
i don't watch any american tv or movies and i don't listen to american music either.
i still have 100% of my entertaintment even without america.
in fact, american movies and music piss me off because they suck.

>> No.519355

>>519349
and ur typeing this on an american image board
irony much?

>> No.519360

>>519355
>irony much?
not really.
i did specify american movies and music didn't i?

>> No.519368

>>519349
typical eurofilth snob

>> No.519370

>>518959
thumbnail

>> No.519382

>>519322
Haha oh wow, sucks to be you.

I myself don't even consume western entertainment that much anymore.

>> No.519398

>>519368
actually, i'm asian and i live in canada.

>> No.519400

>>519360
Oh snap?

>> No.519435

Drawing on The Right Side of The Brain and The Natural Way to Draw will be the only books you need before taking an art program.

>> No.519451

THIS IS IT, TIME TO LEARN TO DRAW. BE BACK IN LIKE 10!

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519466

>>519451

FUCK, GUYS I THINK I FUCKED UP. I TRIED TO DRAW REIMU GIVING JOHNNY CAGE A BLOWJOB.

>> No.519471

>>519398
GTFO DAN

>> No.519486

>>519435
Those are the same book.

>> No.519492

>>519466

Is that Mario?

>> No.519493

>>519471
Dan Kim is asian?

>> No.519500
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>>519493
>Dan Kim
>Kim

Gee, I don't know

>> No.519507

>>519500
But I saw a picture of him, and he sure didn't look asian...

>> No.519526
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519526

Protip: Their are just as many, if not more good western artist than jap artists

The deal is that most of the western artist are picked up to do more professional work whereas Asian artists are hired less on talent and more upon how much they can kiss ass leaving many talented artist left to do fan-art.

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>>519526

>> No.519537

>>519507
Whoever wins, WE LOSE!

>> No.519565
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>> No.519597

>>519565

haha, what the FUCK

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>>519565

>> No.519611

>>519565
oh god

>> No.519633

>>519536
Now, let's compare American comics to manga.

>> No.519637

>>519565
he had to be fat, even when buff,thats why they call him Captain AMERICA.
>BADUM TISH!<

>> No.519638

>>519536
Both of those were animated in Japan

>>519565
I didn't say all western artist were good, god knows how the hell Liefeld still has a job after producing so much shit (Though you have to admit the coloring job is decent)

>> No.519648

>>519638
actually on the coloring note why do all wester comics look like they were coloured in flash?

>> No.519652

>>519526

And shit, if the guy's out of work, he can just draw another MAGIC card or some shit.

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>>519638
I admit that Liefeld is definitely not the best example for Western art, but I just had to post it in this thread.

But he's making more money than I ever will producing things like this.

And I think the Batman cartoon was animated in Korea, but I'm not sure, you probably know better than I do.

>> No.519666

>>519638
Photoshop, frickin near everything is done in photoshop because they have to deal with getting written drawn and fully colored every month.

>> No.519669

>>519638
>Both of those were animated in Japan

I think everyone knows this already. The picture is just hilarious, that's all.

>>519633
What about it? Wanna compare full-color works to monochrome works? Well, actually there exists one good comparison colors-wise. Dig out Snikt.

Manga storytelling > American. Enjoy your endless superhero comics, Frank Miller is the only author that I respect.

>> No.519674

>>519665
They're animated both in Korea and Japan. Sunrise did the keyframes in Japan but I'm not so sure about Korea.

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>>519669
>Frank Miller is the only author that I respect
Would that be before, or after he went off the deep end?

>> No.519736

>>519722
wut

>> No.519742

The biggest difference I can imagine between Western and Asian comics is that usually Western comics have a lot more people involved in the process while Asian tend to have fewer, if not almost a single person working on a single project. And to answer where the thread is going, there are good Western artists and good Asian artists, and there are also equally bad ones from each as well. As for OP, it takes practice to get anywhere no matter what country you're from. Japanese are known to have a lot of free time, so that's why you have them doing so many things.

>> No.519750

>>519722
I've only read Sin city and 300 and it's been 4-5 years since I switched from comics to manga so I wouldn't know much about his works 2000 onwards.

>> No.519770

Both countries have good artists... but Japan seems to make better looking females.

>> No.519772

>>519742
>Asian tend to have fewer, if not almost a single person working on a single project
doujin circles?
visual novels and the like usually have a group of people working together.

>Japanese are known to have a lot of free time
what
is having free time a japanese stereotype now?

>> No.519781

>Japanese are known to have a lot of free time

I LOLED.

>> No.519786

>>519772
>Western and Asian comics
He didn't say anything about doujins or visual novels; try reading the full sentence next time.

>> No.519792

>Japanese are known to have a lot of free time

lolwut

>> No.519833

I think that the Japanese learn to draw starting in grade school; while in other countries you don't get to doodle in art class at all unless you're reading comic books in class and drawing instead of paying attention.

>> No.519846

>>519833
We got to draw in grade school as well in our country, but the art here shitsux nonetheless so that can't be a significant reason. Japan, USA, Italy and Korea are the best countries when it comes to art (from what I've seen, pardon my ignorance).

>> No.519847

>>518028
TRY WATCHING THE WHOLE VIDEO, IDIOT.

>> No.519851

>>519833

Yeah, most of the time you're cutting and pasting abstract shapes together, or doing crafts, and on the rare occasion that you actually get to draw something, you either get criticized or forced to do them over so much, a lot of kids just lose interest

>> No.519926

Art class here sucked hard because they made us paint abstract trash and stuff, when all I wanted to do was do life study and sketches.

>> No.519954

I heard Japanese art schools are real hardcore.

>> No.519960

If you're serious about drawing you either have to practice on your own time or take dedicated classes. Even if you drew in art class, it wouldn't make a difference--it's not like the teacher could teach you anything anyway.

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519968

http://youtube.com/user/lovene

>> No.519975

>>519960
this is true, most decent artists i know were self-taught.

with that in mind, it's also important to note that this is stuff you find out in art communities.

back in the 90s i used to hang out at these forums called Polykarbon, since the webmaster hosted one of like, 3 decent art tutorials in existance

>> No.519991

>>519968
thank for the link, I subscribed

>> No.520077

some of us don't have the inspiration to teach ourselves, we need someone to drag us through.
we should start some kind of group where we all learn to draw together.
i would but i can't draw for shit.

>> No.520086

>>520077
WE CAN HAVE GET TOGETHERS ON MSN EVERY SUNDAY AFTERNOON

.....

>> No.520102

>>520077
We can all get together and watch Bob Ross under a happy tree.

>> No.520197

>>520077
I wouldn't mind that if you live in Toronto.

>>520102
I watch one of his episode on TV a few weeks ago. Fucking amazing.

>> No.520351

>>520197
>I wouldn't mind that if you live in Toronto.
i didn't mean meeting up in real life.
i meant like someone to guide all of us and teach us how to draw using this board or something.

>> No.520361

>>520077
there's a program called Open Canvas, if you can get your hands on version 1.1 somehow, it has a "netplay" feature that allows up to four people to draw on the same canvas.

Once the college finals season is over i'll upload the program and start hosting some drawing sessions on hamachi

>> No.520374

if we can get everybody on this board to learn how to draw, we'll start shitting out original content all over the place.
it's GENIUS i tell you!

>> No.520386

>>520361
first google hit

http://wistinga.online.fr/opencanvas/

>> No.520397

>>520351
http://tenminutedrawing.blogspot.com/

>> No.520431

>>520397
Hello, Mark.

>> No.520574

>>520361
you got me interested.
but only four people, that might be a problem if a lot of people want to learn.

>> No.520606

>>520574
any more than that and it'd get as bad as paintchat rooms...which are terrible when they get full.

>> No.522275

>>520431
Not Mark but yea, useful site if you want to skip most essential bullshit in drawings and learn how to draw things you like quickly.

>> No.522797

Open Canvas Netplay?... Say... Can I join?...

>> No.522839

>>520374
sounds interesting
as well a huge ass VN made by /jp/ will rock
but as well some of the drawfags will be required to focus on backgrounds.

about the lessons in OC/hamachi if i can be of any help ill be glad to help out

>> No.522917

So where is /jp/ going with this?

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>>518018
Fucking seconded

>> No.523200

i went and registered an IRC channel.
irc://irchighway.net/jpdrawan

I really should be doing final projects right now, but I will at least be around to teach people how to get/use OC.

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Age

>> No.524226

alright /jp/, just ordered my tablet.

>> No.524230

This thread is still living, so here's a helpful link:

http://shii.org/2ch/art.html

All sorts of tutorials here.

>> No.524238

>>523200
screw irc highway, use rizon since most of 4chan related irc channels are on there anyways.

>> No.524245

>>524238
is it really that much trouble to join a different server?

>> No.524264

>>524245
yes.
i'm sure most of us on /jp/ are on rizon already anyways.

>> No.524277

>>524264
ok fine

irc://irc.rizon.net/jpdrawan
fagets

>> No.524291

so are you actually doing anything with that irc channel right now or should i just not bother connecting?

>> No.524337

>>524291
Drawing lessons with OC?

>> No.524377

>>524337
is he doing that right now?

>> No.524389

>>524377
Nah, nothing yet. We're still testing stuff to see if we can connect.

>> No.524447

>>524291
about to network with someone. the channels really, really new, so if you want user density you can wait a week if you really want to.

>> No.525865

>>524447
i'll probably join in after a while.

>> No.526416

>>524277
Is there a set meeting time or something?

>> No.526442

>>526416
not really. i'll make a thread in a few days once my finals have calmed down a little.

>> No.526478

>>526442
can you give me an estimate of what day so i know when to come?
i don't frequent 4chan as much as i used to and i don't want to miss this.

>> No.526507

>>519155
>>518962
>>518930

SAUCE ON THE FIRST MUSIC THATS THE ONE THAT FUCKING ROCKS

>> No.526540

>>526478
second
>>526507
Torukia - Gabriela Robin, if that's the one you're talking about.

>> No.526546

>>526478
I suppose you can come now, but there's only about 4 people mincing around, and I'm pretty sure they're all either afk, browsing /jp/, or playing MB.

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>>526540
>Torukia - Gabriela Robin

Thx for delivering! Look what your prize is

>> No.526554

>>526553
WELL THIS WILL BE USEFUL!

>> No.526597

>>526478
dunno if you're still around, but it's likely to happen on wednesday

>> No.526614

>>526597
i got it, looking forward to it.

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>>519968
awesome! http://youtube.com/user/inahoaota <---Kawa/Yoo's youtube channel, 3 videos.

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