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What exactly is it /jp/, that makes a particularly good VN.

Just curious as what it takes for /jp/ to really enjoy a VN.

>> No.5131727

>>5131726
lots of good sex scenes.
also FSN.

>> No.5131730

Infodumps. I like it when a VN is loaded with unrelated but entertaining information.

A good cast is a big plus too.

>> No.5131732

And cooking, lots of cooking.

>> No.5131731

DEEP story and XD so random characters

>> No.5131735

>>5131726
Atmosphere that sucks you into the story, interesting story, good characters, bawww is a plus

>> No.5131737

Things that make me think "Holy shit, this is awesome."

Unexpected plot twists, fight scenes done well (Umineko ep3 comes to mind), whatever it is, if it makes me actually get excited and interested it's good

>> No.5131736

Mind of Steel makes a good VN.

>> No.5131740
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5131740

A little sister character who wear pantyhose.

>> No.5131741
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>>5131740
Indeed

>> No.5131748

Likeable characters, general atmosphere, good story that doesn't drag too much.

>> No.5131751

>>5131737
OH MY GOD IT WAS HIS BROTHER ALL ALONG THISW IS SUCH A GOOD STORY DDESPITE THE FACT THAT ITS RETARDED THREE PULITZERS FOR THIS GUY

>> No.5131755
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5131755

Character development and tragedy.

Good ends are for faggots.

>> No.5131758

Lets say im looking for something that has a fucktons of girls to choose from so if nothing else getting all the the endings could keep me busy for a while, make a suggestion.

>> No.5131762

>>5131740

How about a c haracter wearing pantyhose period?

>> No.5131763

>>5131758
Uh, Clannad has orbs.

>> No.5131768
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5131768

well done world setting and the scenario in which story happens

>> No.5131773
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5131773

Everything this image represents is what makes a good VN.

>> No.5131775

>>5131737
>fight scenes done well (Umineko ep3 comes to mind)
WHat?

>> No.5131776

deep realdeal people dying story that makes no sense

>> No.5131781

Well-developed story, avoidance of personality-less cliche characters (especially in regards to the protagonist), consistency within the story's own universe.

>> No.5131780

>>5131773
A boring retard?

>> No.5131785

>>5131780
Nah, swords.

>> No.5131786

>>5131773
is that sword attached to his mutha fuckin arm

>> No.5131788
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5131788

>>5131758

Flyable Heart
Hoshizora no Memoria

Not "fucktons", but put together that's 13 routes.

Pic is one of the things I like, Suzuha is the most adorable girls in the universe.

>> No.5131789
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5131789

Interesting cast and setting are a must, as well as good pacing. A good plot with believable twists and some infodumps are nice things, but not all games need them.

>> No.5131790
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5131790

Scenes like this

>> No.5131792

>>5131776
>A story no more complex than moemoe highschool girls going, "DAISUKI PROTAGONIST-KUN"

>> No.5131793

Most critically aclaimmed VNs in Japan are Muv-Luv Alternative, Yu-No and Clannad.

Muv-Luv Alternative: Sci-fi setting, shit hits the fan, BRICKS
Yu-No: Sci-fi setting, shit hits the fan, BRICKS
Clannad:Romance drama/comedy that span on several years.

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>>5131790
Or like this

>> No.5131796

>>5131792

>hurp magical illness people dying etc

>> No.5131803

No retarded powerlevel action bullshit, I'm fucking sick and tired of that shit. No retarded moe highschool bullshit, I'm fucking sick and tired of that as well. I get it, most people who play eroge have the mentality of 15 year old kids, but jesus christ, where are the seinen equivalent of eroge?

>> No.5131809

>>5131803
>implying moe highschool isn't seinen

>> No.5131816

>>5131809
Loser ecchi seinen.

>> No.5131819

>>5131803
well there are some but pretty much any of those are not translated, ofcourse that depends where you draw the line for seinen

>> No.5131834

>>5131803
Most things you read are by default, not just because of echi content.
Keep deluding yourself about 'mature vns about mature readers'

>> No.5131850

>>5131834
Do you enjoy insulting yourself?

>> No.5131853

Gimme a list of Romance based ones, ones where im going to wind up getting a girl to fall in love with me.

>> No.5131858

>>5131726
Personally and in this order :
Setting, because even your generic high school drama can be awesome if the setting is good, like PoI's last chapter or Ruitomo if you're into traps or Zwei Worter if you like giant robots.
Characters, these are the people I'm going to listen and read about for all the story, they must be unique and feel alive, heroines especially, seeing a tsundere going tsun only because she bumped into the mc and he put his hand on her tits is retarded and childish, seeing a tsundere being tsun because of a family feud, or because the mc did something that REALLY pissed her off is much better.
Finally, plot, is what glues the first two together, it's not really necessary, there are porn with plot games that are still enjoyable, but it makes the difference between a good game and an awesome one, Nitro+ is a master in this art.

>> No.5131874

Character design is a dealbreaker for me unless everything else is extremely good.
Setting as well, I suppose, and as few "japanese clichè" scenes as possible. You know the ones I'm talking about, the involuntarily groped heroine that screams and socks the mc and so on.

>> No.5131888

>>5131874
>Character design is a dealbreaker for me unless everything else is extremely good.
I don't understand this. Do you only watch movies if the actors are sufficiently good-looking?

>> No.5131891
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5131891

I consider a VN awesome when saving seems to take more time than reading another couple of lines. So, I guess it's all in the pacing and exciting scenes to me. And I don't usually start reading a VN if its setting seems boring to me, but that's a matter of personal taste.

>>5131790
Actually, that particular scene seemed pretty low-tier to me. Maybe because I didn't like Hikaru that much.

>> No.5131904

>>5131888
I don't think he means attractiveness but just the design of the characters. I wouldn't be able to fucking stand an eroge where the characters all have neon-color spiky hair and have fifty belts on.

>> No.5131929
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5131929

Good characters. Especially the MC.

Pic related.

>> No.5131944

>>5131929
>ESPECIALLY THE MC
This.

The main character is the only character we're going to be stuck with almost all the fucking time.

>> No.5131969

>>5131944

Shame that MC's suck most of the time.

>> No.5131979

>>5131969
Well, most VNs in general suck, so no surprise there.

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>>5131737
>fight scenes done well (Umineko ep3 comes to mind)
Combination between physical FSN shounen fighting to Phoenix Wright logic battle, with minimal graphic and bad-ass ZTS techno tracks. Totally awesome.

>> No.5131993

>>5131929

We really need more female protagonists. Mary is made of win and awesome.

>> No.5132003

What low standards can you have to consider the "fight scenes" in Umineko good?

>> No.5132014

Satisfying end.

>> No.5132021

GILGAMESH AS MC
FUND IT

>> No.5132052
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5132052

Writing, decent chracter development, good ost, good mc, mind screw.


Basically, FS/N opposite.

>> No.5132062

>>5131993

Somebody should make a list of good VN's with female MC's.

>> No.5132067

>>5131929
Fuck yeah, Sharnoth.

>> No.5132071

>>5132062
Funny, aside from Sharnoth, I can't immediately recall any VNs with female main characters that aren't outright crazy sex romps(Like Sumeragi Ryoko's Bitchna 1nichi). Do otome games count then?

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>>5132071
I think so.

>> No.5132082

>>5132071

H-games are fine too. Most of /jp/ want to turn into a little girl and get gangbanged anyways.

>> No.5132083

Hmm... there aren't that many VNs that have female protagonists, discounting otome games ofcourse. The only ones that come in mind are:
Extravaganza
Sharnoth
SubaHibi (well atleast first chapter)

anyone know more? Ofcourse requirement is that they are good games.

>> No.5132091
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5132091

>>5132083
Django?

>> No.5132096

>>5132071
Celenaria (c'mon it's the same series as Sharnoth)

Others off the top of my head, Noel, Atlach-Nacha, MOON, Natsunone, Aoishiro, Akaiito, some mystery/horror doujin series that was popular and I can't remember the name of about some musical girl

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>>5132083
Hey there.

>> No.5132098

Atled

>> No.5132103

>>5132096
>Celenaria
Sadly it's not really on level with rest of What A Beautiful series.

>> No.5132113
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>>5132083
Games from yuri/shoujo-ai genre.

>>5132096
Celenaria do get good review from accany. It seems like a fun fantasy adventure game if you count out the furries, futa and such.

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>>5132083

As >>5132098 said, Atled. Great novel with an enjoyable female protagonist. I heartily recommend it.

>> No.5132152

>>5132129
From Talestune artist? Looks good.

>> No.5132156

>>5132098
>>5132129
Someone should translate this. ;_;
It's a bit angsty but it's totally worth it in the end.

>> No.5132172

>>5132156
Fangirls are too busy translating SonoHana.

...Don't ask how that works.

>> No.5132174

>>5132172
Atled is yuri?

>> No.5132175

>>5132174
No, but it has female protagonist. Bitches love that shit.

>> No.5132193

there are many things, but generally I'd like characters I can like (preferably they shouldnt be all that generic either), interesting story/plot and good music (that fits in the mood, of course).
art is pretty irrelevant to me in plot-driven VN:s, but very relevant in romance/cute girls-stuff. In pure romance eroge the protagonist should be "empty", a "machine".

>> No.5132197

>>5132193
>In pure romance eroge the protagonist should be "empty", a "machine".
This is the worst. I fucking hate you and if I ever saw you I would punch you in the face.

>> No.5132199

Characters > story > music > artwork

>> No.5132215

>>5132197
but if the protagonists has too strong a personality, I cant feel like I am him during the VN!

>> No.5132224

>>5132215
I think you played too many shitty sexrompts with self-insert MC.

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