/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

I've been wondering /jp/

In japanese samurai flicks, do the actors speak archaic japanese appropriate for the edo period, or do they speak 20th century japanese?

[I sage! I sage! No.]

TOSHIRO FUCK YEAH

ONLY MANLY JAP EVER

[Anonymous No.]

Many men would go gay for Mifune

[Anonymous No.]

Naturally, the audience understands Edo-period Japanese without fail.

[Anonymous No.]

I haven't seen one to be perfectly honest, but if you hear "de gozaru" than yes.

[Anonymous No.]

As far as I can tell, they've been speaking 20th century japanese (save for the moder slang) since before the samurai even existed. Which is like.. a thousand years.

[Anonymous No.]

if you hear a lot of "de gozaru", then it is old style japanese

[Anonymous No.]

20th century Japanese

kinda like how a 15th century drama written contemporarily will have some archaisms, if it was totally pre-shakespeare nobody would be able to follow it.

it uses old style words and omits certain words that they wouldn't use then (like 'cool!') so it's appropriate enough to keep up suspension of disbelief.

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They speak a little more archaically, but not in full classical.

You don't hear Mifune saying western style Garaigo, but his characters are usually not the kind to be speaking ultra-formal.

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>>51283
>>51271
hivemind

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>>51283
isn't "de gozaru" kenshin's catch phrase?

[Anonymous No.]

This is a probably a question that most Japanese couldn't even answer... for instance, how much archaic english can you speak
so, guessing, 20th century for the most part

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>>51301

Stop posting pictures of Mai Wa- ...Hazubando.

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I don't have any old japanese movies on my HDD except for Ran. It it, it seems that they speak in an old style japanese, bu with modern japanese thrown in as well.

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>>51271

Hmmm, kinda like Himura Kenshin in Rurouni Kenshin ?

Obviously they won't be using english loanwords, because most english loanwords are used for objects that didn't exist back then, like "koffe", sanduwitchu, etc.

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>>51319
Engrish?

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they only use old japanese for certain aspects of speech that modern japanese realize as being "old japanese". If they spoke in all "old japanese", chances are a lot of people wouldn't understand wtf was being said.

Not to mention that the country was in shambles/separated back then, and there really wasn't a unified language

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>>51301

for the record, Mifune isn't actually japanese.

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>>51341

WAT?

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they only use old japanese for certain aspects of speech that modern japanese realize as being "old japanese". If they spoke in all "old japanese", chances are a lot of people wouldn't understand wtf was being said.

Not to mention that the country was in separated back then, and there really wasn't a unified language. Kinda like how even today it is not uncommon for someone from kyushu to not understand someone speaking to them from tohoku, etc.

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>>51348

He was born in mainland china, to japanese parents.

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>>51341
>>Toshirō Mifune was born in Qingdao, China, to Japanese parents, and grew up in the Chinese city of Dalian with his parents and two siblings.
>>to Japanese parents
>>Japanese

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>>51341
>>51348

Born in china to japanese parents

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I guess it would be more of a case of formal vs informal, with everyone speaking formally.

Kinda like in the Basilisk anime, using -sama and -dono all the time

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A lot of Japs were living in China at the time, just like there were a lot of Britfags, Frenchfags, and before WWI, Deutschfags.

Yay colonialism.

Anyway, Mifune was always anti-commi and he served in teh imperiyal air force and doesn't afraid of anything.

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>>51355
It didn't meant shit during WW2. He was training kamikaze.

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>>51369
People didn't speak formally, just because it was the past

in fact if anything, they spoke even more informally than they do today.

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>>51341
He's an ethnic Japanese.

Ethnic groups don't matter at all, the only reason I pay them every credence is because people in the US seem to highly incorrectly confuse skin color with race all the time.

National origin is worth even less than ethnic group, as it means nothing about the person's genome, and in it is misleading for determination which culture someone identifies with, as in the case I quoted.