/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Am I a dumbass or is Katakana harder than Hiragana to remember? I was memorizing 10 Hiragana a day, but it's taken me a week to memorize 5 Katakana.

[Anonymous No.]

It's not harder.
By the time you finish hiragana you know it pretty well... and then when you see about 50 brand new characters that you dont reconize... it just seems harder.
its really not
the most likely reason you are going slower, is because maybe you learned hiragana kind of fast, and now your brain has a lot of info to try to retain. take a break for a few days, then try again

[Anonymous No.]

You're a dumbass.

[God !jKivQN915w No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>508619
LOL

Actually, I have the same problem. I know all of the jouyou kanji and hiragana, but I still need references for the katakana. I just don't get them.

[Anonymous No.]

Some of them are similar

Hiragana Ka: = か
Katakana Ka - カ
The things that will most likely piss you off are.

shi: シ , tsu: ツ , no: ノ , so: ソ , n: ン <-- it's smaller.
and double consanants : ッキ <-- kki --- it's small tsu


annoying shit indeed.

[Anonymous No.]

Katakana has the disadvantage of a whole bunch of them just being variations on a theme (Ku, Su, U, Wa, Ta, Nu, Wo, Fu)(No, So N, Tsu, Shi) and looking vaguely similar, but they're not really that significantly harder. You shouldn't be having that much difficulty.

[Anonymous No.]

Weird, I picked up katakana right away, hiragana took forever to drill into my brain and I still sometimes have to pause and think about some of the similar ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>508619
hiragana is far more ubiquitous than katakana.

if you read things in japanese regularly, you become accustomed to hiragana far quicker than you do to katakana. Not to mention unlike hiragana, many characters in katakana go almost completely unused. i.e, ヲ and ヌ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>508684
Are you stupid?

>>508677 Just said the same thing, but better.
Die.

[Anonymous No.]

Ya, katakana is pissing me off too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>508707
Hey, that post wasn't present as I was typing my reply, I can hardly be faulted for it. You die.

[Anonymous No.]

>memorize

DOING IT WRONG FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.]

yeah.. you're a major dumbass

I learned all hiragana AND katakana in one day. Also, katakana is easier, and it's made from kanji radicals making it easier on top of that

[Anonymous No.]

>>508703
Pretty uncommon, but not really if you read manga.

[Anonymous No.]

>>508703
It seems kind of strange that ヌ is so unused. It's not like it's an uncommon sound. Then again, words you would expect to use that sound are generally written with ニュ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>508843
Sound effects and vocal, nonverbal stuff are about the only place you'll find it.

[Anonymous No.]

Katakana isn't harder to memorize, but reading a whole bunch of it at once (especially if it forms a word/phrase you haven't seen before) can be a real bitch sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>508867
Or names. Some people make really strange names.

Though occasionally you'll see whole sentences written in katakana.

[Anonymous No.]

You'll almost never use katakana. I memorized it in Japanese 101 but I can't remember it worth shit now.

[Anonymous No.]

I use katakana every day in ニコニコ. Just a bunch of elevens shouting オレオレｗｗｗ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>508677
Hmm, I'm not sure if it is smaller...

Zoom in really close to the "mouth" of the these croked smiley face characters:

シ - (shi) starts in the lower left and goes to the right and up a little. the two ticks are more horizontal then vertical

ツ - (tsu) starts in the upper right and does down a lot, the ticks are more vertical than horizontal

ノ - (no) it is tsu or shi without the ticks

ソ - (so) like tsu (top to bottom, kinda vertical) with only one tick

ン- (n) not smaller, it is more horizontal than vertical, and it is written left to right

[Anonymous No.]

うぇｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>>508619
have fun learning kanji when u get to it....

[Anonymous No.]

>>509150
I can usually tell this shit apart when printed, depending on the font. Hand-written, though, I find it near impossible to tell

[Anonymous No.]

katakana is the bane of japanese language, second only to kanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>508619
Dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

シツソン

My hate for these 4 fucking kanas in over 9000.

Even learning 2000 kanji seems easier than recognizing these 4.

[Anonymous No.]

>>510226

シツ are actually different.

ソン are impossible to tell apart when alone. I just assume it is N since it is more common than SO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511307
the difference between so and n is in the angle of the dot. <45 degrees from vertical -> so.
>=45 degrees -> n.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511328

Both being close to 45 makes it hard to tell sometimes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511336
Remember with hiragana and how to write. ん＝ン. So you write the second stroke from bottom. そ＝ソ. So you write the second stroke from top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511328
>>511336
In fact, I noticed that on fonts which don't show the stroke direction, the difference of angle between ソ and ン (or シ and ツ) is accented. Vice versa, angles are nearly the same on fonts that show the stroke direction.

Yet I still hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511371
>>511388
This is all fine and dandy until you come across something handwritten.

[Anonymous No.]

Context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511407
there is no context sometimes, like when it is being used in a name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511388
Imagine brush and calligraphy. 2nd or 3rd stroke of ソ and ツ are written from top. So you find that tops of 2nd or 3rd stroke are little fat. and シ and ン are written from bottom. So bottoms are little fat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511407
Just like some people write halp for help. Some Japanese write ソ for ン on internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>511432
That was the most depressing comment I read today.

[Anonymous No.]

I am No.511422. Excuse me. If you do not use Futaba style, you can not see the differences by calligraphic stroke.

[Anonymous No.]

I see. it is the matter of font. People who want to learn katakana, gothic is the worst font. If you want to learn katakana, use calligraphic font. MS-明朝, minchou is famous in Japan. But I do not know, you have minchou in your PC.

[Anonymous No.]

I pretty much write ツ as "/ and シ as =／