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>Yasuhito Sekine is a member of a new generation of mild-mannered, sensitive Japanese men known as "herbivores." He runs an online dessert club for men

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120696816

>> No.5076583

Metrosexuals, pig disappointing.

>> No.5076584

Oh look it's this story again.

>> No.5076585
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5076585

My face when I read this

>> No.5076593

>herbivore_custom.jpg
So, this is what the high-spec version of a herbivore looks like?

>> No.5076612

> Away from the strutting are the retiring wallflowers, a quiet army of sweet young men with floppy hair and skinny jeans. These young men are becoming known as Japan's "herbivores" — from the Japanese phrase for "grass-eating boys" — guys who are heterosexual but who say they aren't really interested in matters of the flesh.

>They are drawn to a quieter, less competitive life, focusing on family and friends — and eschewing the macho ways of the traditional Japanese male.

so they're gay dudes who don't realize they are gay

>> No.5076628

This is how everyone should act.

>> No.5076642

What an insult to those of us who have done nothing manly but don't give any thought to it.

>> No.5076649

So it's a bunch of pussies.

>> No.5076650

>He runs an online dessert club for men
This sounds awesome

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>>5076650
>It is, perhaps, no coincidence that Yasuhito Sekine's eyebrows are perfectly groomed. The changing tastes of Japanese men are quite literally what take up his days. He works for an Internet service provider and operates Sweets Club, an online group for men who like desserts. Set up in January, it already has about 1,000 members who congregate — online and in person — to debate the virtues of different brands of strawberry shortcake.

>> No.5076667

>guys who are heterosexual but who say they aren't really interested in matters of the flesh.

Wait, where does heterosexuality even come into this?

>> No.5076669

This is why Japans birth rate is down.

>> No.5076670
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>> No.5076678

>>5076669
People are overrated anyway.

>> No.5076679

>>5076663
>to debate the virtues of different brands of strawberry shortcake.
This is one of the greatest things I've ever read.

>> No.5076686

So what's new?
Japan is sexist enough that heterosexual males who don't want to be considered obsessed with sex and physical outlet are now starting their own club.

That's just Japan.

>> No.5076687

Okay okay... so didn't japan just change schoolgirl uniforms to pants a minute ago? Now they're complaining about why men don't like girls as much? god damn

>> No.5076690

He is cute.

>> No.5076702

I'm all for mind mannered-ness.

>> No.5076706

>>5076687
No one's complaining.

>> No.5076712 [DELETED] 

Awful harsh for a thread full of dudes who'll never get laid, isn't it? Are you guys sad because this sort of dude appeals to women and you guys never will?

I say this as a girl who isn't even into men (I'm just on /jp/ for the idols), but I am totally okay with sensitive dudes like this.

>> No.5076716

But gay men can be sex-obsessed too...
This seems to be more asexual than anything.

>> No.5076718

>>5076712
I chuckled.

>> No.5076720

>>5076712
Oh boy

>> No.5076740

>>5076575

>herbivores

What the hell, is this another term for homosexual now?

>> No.5076746

>>5076712
I giggled like the little girl.

>> No.5076754
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5076754

>My face

>> No.5076762

>mild-mannered, sensitive Japanese men
>aren't really interested in matters of the flesh.

>not a problem for rest of the sexist, pervert, hentai, etc men

lol. sometimes i pitty japanese wimmin.

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>>5076712

>> No.5076807 [DELETED] 

>>5076712
>I say this as a girl who isn't even into men

A lesbian then.

> (I'm just on /jp/ for the idols)

Wait... So /jp/ is now /y/?
WTF?

> but I am totally okay with sensitive dudes like this.

So you're into men like this even though you're apparently a lesbian?

>> No.5076823

>>5076712
>I say this as a girl who isn't even into men

A lesbian then.

> (I'm just on /jp/ for the idols)

Wait... So /jp/ is now /y/?
WTF?

> but I am totally okay with sensitive dudes like this.

So you're into men like this even though you're apparently a lesbian or are you just having some bizarre delusion that you're actually in Japan and that you're a woman?

>> No.5076832

/jp/, are you telling me that you guys are manly?

>> No.5076845

Sounds like my kind of club.
This reminds me that I need to finish Otomen and get my eyebrows done.

>> No.5076855

>>5076832
Fapping to little girls is manlier than discussing desserts.

>> No.5076858

I have never pissed while standing up for the past 5 years- anyone else only sit down while pissing? I hear that this is a sign of being a herbivore too.

>> No.5076869

>>5076858
I stand up unless I want to be quiet. I don't have some defensive manliness complex like a lot of people, I just think it's fun to watch my pee arc down.

>> No.5076877

If there was something like this in the US, I could see myself joining it. I love desserts.

>> No.5076878

>>5076877
Yeah it's called being gay.

>> No.5076884

>>5076858
Sometimes. I guess it's random.

>> No.5076885

Have been posted before but it was a different article about Herbivore. What irritates me is they enjoy mediocrity. Also,

>November 25, 2009
>lack ambition
>Women are scary

>> No.5076918

>>5076823

No /jp/ is just full of closeted homosexuals. Probably including myself.

I was enlightened to this when I looked up "jp 4chan" on Google before the name change. The next board in line was /y/. I tried the same with the other boards, even /cm/. Nope, not a single one had /y/ in the results with the exception of /jp/ and /jp/ alone.

Google opens your eyes to what kind of people we really are.

>> No.5076936

Lol I thought that was hideo kojima for a sec

>> No.5076945

That sounds like me

>> No.5076946

>>5076858
Been doing this my whole life. After reading that article most of the things mentioned apply to me as well.

>> No.5076953

Scientific studies show that women in devoloped countries like herbivores while women in 3rd wolrd countries like MANLY MEN. Makes me wonder why the Japanese aren't fucking like rabbits but meh.

>> No.5077049

>>5076953
Japan would be an exception because gutter whores there sell them off for like 3000yen. Also the so called "better" women want men with large salaries.

>> No.5077065

>>5076953
Until that time of the month comes around.

There was this slut article where it detailed how a good portion of fathers aren't actually fathering their legitimate children. It also mentioned something about going for the meek and well-off men most of the time, because they can support children, but when mating week rolls around, they go sex crazy and fuck bubba on top of a pool table in a bar.

>> No.5077088

>>5076575
YOU CALL IT HERBIVORES. MOST JUST CALL YOU A FAG.

JESUS CHRIST JAPANESE ARE SO FUCKING BRAINWASHED.

>> No.5077171

>>5077065
i know the article you are talking about, it's a bit old but it still owns

>> No.5077195

>>5076858

I pee sitting down, too. After seeing so many public bathrooms where there's pee everywhere, I just decided it's more efficient to sit down. However, going by the article, I'm definitely what would be considered a "herbivore."

>> No.5077214 [DELETED] 

dudes who pee, have you ever used a urinal?

>> No.5077227

dudes who pee sitting down: have you ever used a urinal?

>> No.5077236
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5077236

What the fuck happened to the manly men?

>> No.5077240

>>5077227

Yeah, I do from time to time.

>> No.5077242

>>5077236
manly men are no more, end of an era

>> No.5077274

i wish to be a manly man

>> No.5077298

I'm seeing a strange trend here.....

Women acting more like men
Men acting more effeminate

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

>> No.5077305 [DELETED] 

>>5077274
do you want to make your dreams come true, anon

>> No.5077299

>>5077227
No, and I never will.

>> No.5077309

>>5077227
I never pee sitting down, but I don't use urinals either.

>> No.5077312

and this kind of shit is why I had enough of the whole shit and stay inside having nothng to do with society anymore.

>> No.5077315
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>>5077274
do you want to make your dreams come true, anon

>> No.5077324

>>5077298
Gender roles are breaking down. There's still plenty of effeminate women and manly men around though. The only manly thing about me is my awesome chest hair, otherwise I might aswell be a trap.

>> No.5077325

>>5077227
Adjust to the facilities. If it's a classic Japanese gutter, squat. If it's a stand-up urinal, stand up. If it's a toilet, sit down.

>> No.5077344

>guys who are heterosexual but who say they aren't really interested in matters of the flesh.

So......they're asexual?

>> No.5077356

>>5077324
>Gender roles are breaking down.

I don't care is you believe in God, Scientology or whatever. This shit isn't natural.

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>>5076712
>Awful harsh for a thread full of dudes who'll never get laid, isn't it? Are you guys sad because this sort of dude appeals to women and you guys never will?

>I say this as a girl who isn't even into men (I'm just on /jp/ for the idols), but I am totally okay with sensitive dudes like this.

So are you saying that women nowadays want a man who is more likely to turn tail and run like a coward than a man who is more likely to protect you and beat the shit out of anything that is trying to do you harm?

Feminism has turned both genders into fucktards.

>> No.5077374

>>5077364
This type of men are perfect for dumping your illegitimate children on and have him support you while you fuck otehr people on the side because he's too "trusting" and "sensitive" to confront you about any suspicions.

>> No.5077375

>>5077364
If I cared about someone, I wouldn't want them to risk life and limb when we already pay taxes to have police do that for us.

>> No.5077376

>>5077364
>he actually thinks he's responding to a girl

Also, any actual female who is a regular of 4chan obviously isn't much of someone who can talk about what girls want - as no men want them either or they wouldn't be pathetic sacks of fat sitting on the internet all day.

>> No.5077381

>>5077364
Are you kidding me? Women would still rather be partnered with a masculine man over a feminine man in the long run. It's probably just that women are more likely to just be friends with feminine men.

>> No.5077392

>They think the only type of men are overly masculine brutes and pussy-girly intellectuals

You're missing the one group that actually is what girls want, but good job trying, jp.

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>>5077374
>>5077375
>>5077376
>>5077376
>>5077375
>>5077374
>>5077376
>>5077375
>>5077381

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>>5077392
...?

>> No.5077401

>>5077395
I wasn't really responding to anything in the post I quoted rather than making a generalized statement from it, I think you need to take some basic literacy courses.

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>>5077401

>> No.5077408

>>5077399
Well it's true.

>> No.5077412

CurryButt

Elitist straight from the womb.

>> No.5077424
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Never change CurryButt.

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5077443

So in America everyone is talking about a "Menaissance" and on the other side of the world we have "herbivores"

>> No.5077448

>>5077443
>So in America everyone is talking about a "Menaissance"

No one is doing that other than your homosexual father.

>> No.5077453

>>5077443
What I guess I want to say is: what the hell is wrong with you people?

Don't you have better things to do?

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We need these three to guide us men

>> No.5077483

ITT: the media trolls you with a "cultural phenomenon"

>> No.5077484

>>5077448
CurryButt, you strike me as one of those guys that sit in the library everyday and wear cardigans whilst reading complicated philosophies and literature. You wear glasses and have a constantly annoyed, aloof look about you.

>> No.5077494

>>5077484
But he's stupid.

>> No.5077496

>>5077453

Which people? "Menaissance" or "Herbivores"?

>> No.5077519

>>5077494
Exactly. He's an idiot posing as a literate, psychology major that carries a 'holier than thou' aura about him. Mostly due to lack of self-esteem.

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>>5077519
When did I pose as that? 90% of my posts are "wow ur butt is so litaraly mad" and the other 10% is how about trying lucky hit? ಠ_ಠ

>> No.5077540

How are there 80+ replies to this?
It has to be at least a year old by now.

>> No.5077556

>>5077356
Nothing unnatural about adapting to the environment, anon.

>> No.5077566

>>5077519

I haven't seen one manner of eloquently stated psychology in this thread. No one is exactly pretending.

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>>5077525
That was fun.

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>>5077525
>When did I pose like that?

Yesterday, at the power plant. I saw what you were doing over by Unit 4. DON'T THINK YOU GOT AWAY WITH IT SCUM!

>> No.5077581

>>5077566
>High Fructose Corn Syrup

Add ADHD to that, kid.

>> No.5077584

>Floppy hair
>Skinny Jeans
Faggot club is in session

>> No.5077586
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>>5077576
Why the hell were you there

>> No.5077592

>>5077556
I ain't gonna be natural when your penis begins to invert itself into a vagina and you wake up with breast cancer.

>> No.5077596

>>5077356
And this is a good thing because you actually can do what you want. in next 30 years

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>>5077586
I was checking the pressure readings in Unit 2. The fly ash and soot have been blocking up the pipes! I glanced over and saw you gyrating in a most sexual fashion! I reported it to Corporate Security.

PREPARE YOURSELF AND YOUR ASS

>> No.5077651

>Back [in the 1980s], Japanese men had to be passionate and aggressive, but now those characteristics are disliked. Our members have very mild personalities. They simply enjoy what they like without prejudice. They are not limited by expectations.

> Japanese men had to be passionate and aggressive
>Our members have very mild personalities.
Who is saying you cant do both, its these guys.
Quite odd that they say this, but then again they are forming their social group through the thought of "Doing what one likes without prejudice." This implies that they think they will be hated or disliked because of their hobbies.
A kind virtue but they fall on the tile of still looking at what others see of them through their own choice.

That places their difference from /jp/, we do what we like never searching out nor expecting anyone objecting to our hobbies, or at the least I do.

And to you fuckheads calling out /jp/ on disliking this 'herbivore' group and saying that we have no basis on criticizing them because we are often shut-ins and social dejectors.... Go tell someone who cares, I sure dont want to see that nor would I search for anyone's assurance or dis-assurance of myself or my like-minded peers.

>> No.5080523

Oh lawdy I forgot to check this thread all day. Girl here, again.

>>5076823
>>A lesbian then.
Lesbian, sure. Lesbian who fucks girls but has occasional attraction to dudes that usually stops after smooching. Spectrum-based sexuality, you see.

>>Wait... So /jp/ is now /y/?
/y/? What the fuck, no. J-pop idols, idgaf about kawaii yaois.

>>So you're into men like this even though you're apparently a lesbian...?
I just mean that though I only fuck and date women, I find sensitive, mild-mannered boys to be moe in the same way you find your sensitive, mild-mannered 2D waifus to be moe. ...Except I guess it's not the same way, because I don't want to fuck them? Hard to explain, don't know why I'm trying.

>>5077364
I think you're exaggerating both ends of the spectrum. I find it easier to get along with sensitive, softer dudes than emotionless, sexually-fueled bros. But seeing as I don't date either, it's not about what I want to be protected by? I'm typically the more boyish one in my relationships anyway so I prefer being the one to protect small, cute girls. <3

Being a girl on /jp/ is fascinating. Thank you, NEET bros!

>> No.5080551

>macho ways
>traditional Japanese male.

wwwwwwwwww

i don't think groping girls on trains is "macho"

>> No.5080610

>>5080551
Why not?

>> No.5080622

I've been living in Japan for over 7 years.

This place is full of phaggots who get no pussy.

Despite girls saying that they like those weaksauce guys, those are just words. Women are still attracted to men. The guys here who get the most women, Japanese and foreigner alike, are the guys who are masculine.

There are faggy guys who can get women because they have game, but they are the exception that proves the rule.

>> No.5080648

>>5080622
Ok. Try telling someone who cares, like /r9k/.

>> No.5080650

ITT: guys who have girlfriends instead of you, you NEET faggot

>> No.5080670

ITT: Deluded idiots who think that millions of years of evolution can be subverted by ideology.

The more we deviate from the natural course, "God's Laws", the more corrupt society will become.

Here's a good article:

http://ozconservative.blogspot.com/2008/10/fatherless-america.html

>> No.5080680

The human child does not know or care about some disembodied abstraction called "parent." What it needs is a mother and a father who will work together, in overlapping but different ways, in its behalf...

Ultimately, the division of parental labor is the consequence of our biological embodiment as sexual beings and of the inherent requirements of effective parenthood ...

In service to the child and to the social good, fathers do certain things that other people, including mothers, do not do as often, as naturally, or as well ...

Historically, the good father protects his family, provides for its material needs, devotes himself to the education of his children, and represents his family's interests in the larger world. This work is necessarily rooted in a repertoire of inherited male values ...

>> No.5080698

... androgyny and gender role convergence reflect the ultimate triumph of radical individualism ... it is the belief, quite simply, that human completion is a solo act. It is the insistence that the pathway to human happiness lies in transcending the old polarities of sexual embodiment in order for each individual man and woman to embrace and express all of human potentiality within his or her self ... Now each man, within the cell of himself, can be complete ...

This idea, so deeply a part of our culture, is fool's gold. It is a denial of sexual complementarity and ultimately a denial of generativity ... Especially for men, this particular promise of happiness is a cruel hoax. Like all forms of narcissism, its final product is not fulfilment but emptiness.

>> No.5080733

Jew lies

>> No.5080751

>>5080698
>>5080680

that's deep. i really liked the in-depth, factual analysis about what makes somebody complete and what makes somebody empty. all of that conclusive evidence shown is too much to overcome.

>> No.5080781

>>5080648

My post is relevant to this thread.

u mad?

>> No.5080825

The superior male specimen.

>> No.5080868

How is that machismo working out for all you manly men?

I bet those protein shakes and hot pockets taste even better with your tears and heated RAGE at women for being whores for everyone but you.

>> No.5080906

>>5080868

lol, yeah, u mad.

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>>5080868

Holy jumping Jesus on a pogo stick! Hey, shit-for-brains, have you been living under a fucking rock these past 50 years?

Holeee fucking shit. Now I knew 4chan had some dumber-than-a-rock ballerina school rejects lurking around but I never, I mean I NEVER, thought I would see this level of stupidity, turbofucked times infinity.

The fuck? I mean, what the FUCK!? Why do you think people complain about being nice guys and not getting women? Why do assholes get women?

When's the last time you watched a straight porn, you flaming homofaggot? The majority of men in porn are big buff palookas with ROID RAGE. Women whore themselves out for STUDS, not for pussywhipped "herbivores." Only once they get their cunt holes filled with red hot man gravy do they come to you faggots to bend your tight asses over and fork over the cash.

Son, if you ever display this level of stupidity again I'm going to personally arrive at your house and shove your head so far down the toilet you'll be singing the Chinese national anthem while chomping on General Tsao's chicken in the morning!

>> No.5081306

>>5081297
Glad he shot that faggot in the movie

>> No.5081320

>>5081306
>he doesn't know what the word faggot means and is unaware that he is one

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>>5081297
Sup' Hartmann

>> No.5081359

>>5081320
U mad?
As tough as that faggot acted in the movie, he was fucking shot to death like the fucked up animal he was

>> No.5081398

>>5081339
The real NEET training regimen

>> No.5081399

>>5081297
thanks, I read that whole thing in his voice too.

man, good laugh, good laughs.

>> No.5081416

>>5081359
you realize that drill seargents are supposed to act that way right? to toughen up the men while stripping them of thought.

>> No.5081418

>>5080698
>>5080680
>>5080670

Oh look, a conservative is using pretty words to complain about social change without backing up a single assertion with a example or factual evidence. How unexpected.

It's easy to fool an idiot into believing what you say when you state it as a fact. I know this from experience.

>> No.5081453

>>5081416
Don't get me wrong, I get chills when I watch the scenes still but clearly Kubrick portrayed him as a tyrant and he was justifiable put out of his misery.

He was a symbol of everything completely wrong with the mentality.

>> No.5081496

>>5081418

Oh look, a liberal ignoring all evidence and talking out of his ass, assuming that all change is good, brainwashed by the "liberation myth."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/better-dads-better-lads/story-e6frf7kx-1111113972593

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>>5081496
Mmm, but we're not discussing -all- change, are we? We're discussing the virtues of gender convergence.

If you're looking to duel, care to spare me the weasel words like "Brainwashed" and "Myth" that you're instructed to use by the conservative propaganda machine? Maybe it can't be helped, after all it helps to dehumanize "the enemy".

Also, lets not use a news article that state the obvious; "If fathers interact with their sons, their sons will grow up to be better people.".

Exactly how does that deal with the topic at hand? Or are you trying to help my point, pointing out how thanks to gender blending, a stay-at-home dad could be with his son more often?

>> No.5082550

>>5081751
>>Exactly how does that deal with the topic at hand? Or are you trying to help my point, pointing out how thanks to gender blending, a stay-at-home dad could be with his son more often?

Lol, notice the problem there? If a father stays at home and acts like the mother how exactly is he performing his father role? With gender blending he basically becomes mom with a penis, once again leaving no distinct fatherly role. There really is no gender blending, only gender reversing, for what reason nobody knows, except the puppeteers of your propaganda machine?

Why exactly should we go against nature and make men like women and women like men? To "liberate" them? If it ain't broke don't fix it. Let fish stay in the water and let dogs roam on land.

>> No.5082589

If it's wrong to eat strawberry shortcake while watching High Plains Drifter I don't want to be right.

>> No.5082597

>>5082550
Except you don't know anything about evolutionary psychology, and you're just talking out of your ass.

>> No.5082666

>>5076858
I dislike standing up because my piss comes out too randomly (first strongly, then very weakly, then again very strongly..) - if I stand up, Im too likely to end up with piss on the floor or somewhere else I dont want it to go

>> No.5082710

>>5076612
no they are normal guys who realize the get drunk and party your sorrow away after you toil your ass off at work with some skank at a bar while you neglect your family is a pretty shitty way to live. theres a reason japan favors the mother for possession of children in divorces.

>> No.5082738

>>5082597

No, you're the one who doesn't know anything about evolutionary psychology. And evolutionary psychology supports conservatism, dumbass. Whenever I talk to liberals about evolutionary psychology they get really nervous because they know it goes against all their beliefs about society and "societal constructs." Because many of the things we take for granted aren't really constructs but simply natural progression that doesn't change overnight or over many years. They want to believe that they have full control over themselves when in fact they don't.

>> No.5082760
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5082760

If only Nobunaga was still alive.

>> No.5082772

Take this shit to /b/ or /new/.

>> No.5082832

>>5082772

One does not simply "take this shit into /b/."

>> No.5082841

>>5082589
I'm going to do this right fucking now.

>> No.5082844

what makes them more special than Vegetarians?

>> No.5082937

>>5082844
they're more handsome

>> No.5083646

>>5082937
"they're more handsome to other men"

fixed

>> No.5085331

Yasuhito looks like a friendly guy.
I would like to discuss desserts with him.

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