New Ar Tonelico thread, the previous thread (>>5029899) 404'd before we could start another one.

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Anonymous Fri May 7 23:16:06 2010 No.5071212 [Reply] [Original]

New Ar Tonelico thread, the previous thread (>>5029899) 404'd before we could start another one.

Anonymous Fri May 7 23:17:06 2010 No.5071218
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Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8M7BH61Q

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer + plugins + bios. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

Anonymous Fri May 7 23:22:06 2010 No.5071247

In before: Luca's a bitch, Clouche vs. Luca, Ar Tonelico imagedumps, filterguy sharing his spam filters, COCONAAAAA, that other guy who can't resist saging AT threads, Ha-halloween.jpg.tiff, dat Tilia ass, Finnel's back, Mir's stripperifficness, and EXEC_EP=NOVA/. hate.

That probably covers most of it.

Anonymous Fri May 7 23:28:06 2010 No.5071290

I believe we were talking about songs that you really have to grow into last time. Stuff like EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE/. and EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY is instant, but I had to listen to EXEC_SOL=FAGE a few times to really like it.

>SOL=FAGE
>Solfege
>In music, solfège (, also called solfeggio, sol-fa, or solfa) is a pedagogical solmization technique for the teaching of sight-singing in which each note of the score is sung to a special syllable

Ha.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 7 23:35:06 2010 No.5071344 >>5071218 ATFLPP™ has really changed my life, now i actually consider spending some of my other way unspent time into installing and checking out this game! I also lost over 200 pounds!!!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 7 23:40:06 2010 No.5071368 >>5071344 Well, I gained over 250 pounds! I guess that's what they mean by, "Results may vary!" Ha! Ha! Ha! But seriously, thanks for whoever took the time to put that together. It's much appreciated.

Anonymous Fri May 7 23:49:06 2010 No.5071411

filterguy here again. If anyone wants the AnT spam filter, you can find it at (nothing changed since last revision):

pastebin dat com/njU4cUj1

I've tried to make it as specific to the AnT spam as possible to avoid conflicts with normal posts. I think I now have almost every alleyway covered except for a few that I may patch later. At the very least it will make him waste more time in configuring a new post that can evade this (if he knows about it at all; this is why I only post it in this thread) and it's a bit of a learning experience for me. Hope it's useful to you guys.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 7 23:51:06 2010 No.5071432 To those who have played AT3 What's finnel's and saki's personalities like? I've seen you guys talk about AT3 so much on the threads but I don't know squat about them. If possible, please avoid spoilers, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 7 23:54:06 2010 No.5071452 >>5071290 >SOL=FAGE >Solphage >Virus that infects stars We're fucked.

>>	Anomynous Sat May 8 00:32:06 2010 No.5071755 >>5071452 Gunbustah?

Anonymous Sat May 8 01:01:06 2010 No.5071902
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Thanks, OP. I was sleeping so you saved me the effort.

>>5071432

I haven't played the game but from the stuff I've seen I believe Saki often acts like a child for reasons you'll find out when you play the game often referring to herself in third person and with shit like EXEC_EP=NOVA/. behind her it doesn't exactly help her image. Finnel is generally clumsy and often finds herself getting into trouble, she's also a masochist. And Tilia I have no idea about, honestly. I've only really seen her confession scene where she acts quite nice albeit very straight forward. Perhaps another Anonymous who has played AT3 can elaborate on this post.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 8 01:08:06 2010 No.5071942 >>5071902 And if you meant their actual personas (Filament etc.) then I have no idea other than seeing their purge scenes.

Anonymous Sat May 8 01:12:06 2010 No.5071973

>>5071432
Saki is a 15 year old who still refers to herself in the third person. Her aversion to conflict turned EXEC_EP=NOVA/. into what it is. She loves cats and is a little too innocent and naive, but on the flip side she's very conscious of the harsh duty that's been forced upon her (though more at times than others due to plot hacks). Overall, happy, quiet, maybe a little airheaded.

Finnel is cheery and outgoing, but clumsy. When you meet her, she's working as the ... uh ... mascot-girl-ish thing for a restaurant in Tokoshie. ... hmm, I like her more than Saki, but somehow I have less to say about her. Aoto gives her shit a lot (he calls her his personal waitress all the time), and she'll give it back to an extent.

Tilia is ... ... um. She says weird things a lot. Kind of Osaka-like, but not in the "hurrrr hurrrr look at me there's nothing in my heaaaaaaad" way, but more in the "it's really a shame you have no clue what I'm talking about" way. It's like she knows she's weirding you out a little, but doesn't mind, and occasionally takes amusement in it. But, of course, like the other Origins, she knows when it's time to be srs bsns. (Except maybe Frelia, who ends up riding Shun as a noble steed at one point.)

Anonymous Sat May 8 01:16:06 2010 No.5071993

>>5071942
Salapator is the hot-for-you-onee-san type. Yurishica is the cool, collected mad scientist type. Filament is the quiet, non-emotive, mysterious type. Soma is awesome. I've only done Tilia and Cocona ends so far, so I haven't had any of the deeper Cosmosphere interaction with Sakiya Rumei or Suzunomiya.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 8 02:42:26 2010 No.5072464 Can anyone explain the relationship being Tilia and Shurelia?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 8 02:43:06 2010 No.5072470 Can anyone explain the relationship between Tilia and Shurelia?

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 8 02:56:06 2010 No.5072535 i never thought it was possible, but AT3 proved you can butcher akiko shikata's voice

Anonymous Sat May 8 03:12:06 2010 No.5072637

>>5072470
Oh man. The Tilia short story in the AT3 settei book shows us that:
* Tilia was probably the first person to exercise, and may be responsible for, Shurelia's age complex ("<Shurelia> Don't call me aunty! I'm nine years old!")
* Tilia is responsible for Shurelia's rabbit obsession (AND her thinking that "kyu! kyu!" is a happy noise rabbits make, when actually it's the noise they make when they're in distress)
* Tilia made Shurelia go out exploring the first tower with her when they were supposed to stay put (which probably got Shurelia in trouble later), and accidentally stole her "father"'s (Eleno's) pass card/credit card when she left (which almost certainly got Shurelia in trouble later)

In one of the talk topics, Tilia mentions Shurelia briefly as the origin she met from Sol Ciel and wonders if she's doing all right.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 8 03:19:06 2010 No.5072690 >>5072637 Thank you kind Anonymous, so there's no enmity between them?

Anonymous Sat May 8 05:15:06 2010 No.5073453
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>>5072637

>* Tilia is responsible for Shurelia's rabbit obsession (AND her thinking that "kyu! kyu!" is a happy noise rabbits make, when actually it's the noise they make when they're in distress)

Interesting.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sat May 8 08:39:06 2010 No.5074300 File: 749 KB, 1024x768, 10505189.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sat May 8 10:23:06 2010 No.5074608

>>5072690
Well, there's conflict in the materials over this. Frelia's profile in AT3 also has "Dislikes: Eolia", and in Toukousphere 58 someone asks "You just said the only other Reyvateils who could become AT admins were Frelia and Beta-6D, but what about Tilia?" Shurelia's all "Who is this Tilia you're talking about?", and Jakuri comes in and says " ... well, it looks like there's something going on here, but let's not pry too much into it."

So. I'm not sure what Shurelia's real feelings are, but I think it's fair to say their two meetings didn't leave her with the best of impressions. Tilia may not like Shurelia that much, but it's clear she doesn't really HATE her. Now that I've finished AT3 I ought to read the most recent Toukouspheres.

Anonymous Sat May 8 10:58:06 2010 No.5074758

Oh god, this week's Toukousphere.

Jakuri-san, what do you think of "otoko no ko" (男の娘, herein rendered as "trap")?
(Potto)

Jakuri: I hate 'em. They're the worst.
Ayatane: My, it's unusual for you to be so openly negative.
Jakuri: But ... sometimes, they're so cute that it makes me feel like I've lost as a woman. It pisses me off.
Aoto: Huh, what're you talkin' about? Sure, some of them are pretty cute, but there's no way a boy could be cuter than a girl.
Jakuri: (in bold red text) Aoto, the swimsuit picture collections I snuck you yesterday ... actually, they were all of boys.
Aoto: ... n-, no way!!!
Saki: Aoto-san, you shouldn't read ecchi books like that!!
Jakuri: Don't worry, everyone in those pictures were just boys that are cuter than girls. There's nothing ecchi about another boy like Aoto looking at it.
Saki: C-come to think of it, I suppose that's true, but ... but, why was Aoto-san so shocked, then?
Filament: He probably honestly thought they were cute. If traps continue to multiply the way they have, there are probably a lot more that would make Aoto feel that way again. ... the world is becoming a frightening place.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 8 13:11:06 2010 No.5075641 >>5074758 Why is Jakuri so awesome? And is anyone translating the Toukouspheres? The wiki only has a few of them translated and the last one was done a few months ago, I believe.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 8 13:21:06 2010 No.5075713 >>5071411 Much appreciated.

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Anonymous Sat May 8 20:43:06 2010 No.5079060

>>5075641
Aquagon has translated a bunch of random bits from a bunch of them. I've done full translations of the first three, and I'm thinking of just jumping ahead to when the AT3 characters show up, and then just browsing through and finding the ones I like best ... too much to do, not enough hours in the day.

I really wish they had the Toujousphere archived, though :x Apparently it had Croix going on forever about breasts (which was an in-joke already) and other crazy antics. Ah, Toukousphere, thank you for introducing me to the phrase "chest sommelier".

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 00:28:06 2010 No.5080892 >>5079060 Kindly provide a link please?

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 00:37:06 2010 No.5080972 File: 160 KB, 1680x1050, seedan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5071344 >>5071368 The best way to show your thanks for the ATFLPP™ is to help seed the torrents for other anons once you're done downloading!

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 00:43:06 2010 No.5081026 File: 79 KB, 885x504, ar-tonelico-3-flip-gravie-021.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Obligatory.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 00:43:06 2010 No.5081032 File: 99 KB, 885x504, ar-tonelico-3-flip-gravie-012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also obligatory.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 00:45:06 2010 No.5081044 New to these AT threads. Just want to say: I love Infel.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 01:05:06 2010 No.5081217 I might be wrong, but in AT3, is Cocona's character model just Tilia with a different skin/movements? Watching cutscenes where they are together, they seem to have identical body shapes.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 01:05:06 2010 No.5081221 What is Ar Tonelico. Why do we have to have a thread for it everyday?

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun May 9 01:07:06 2010 No.5081231 File: 97 KB, 600x837, 10496911.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How young is too young, Inudrill?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 01:10:06 2010 No.5081251 >>5074608 Was it ever revealed exactly who/what Beta-6D is?

>>	We went into the bedrooms. Vodultydryday Sun May 9 01:12:13 2010 No.5081267 The closed up cell was scarcely hot. The insignificant ifitering through the slatted blinds made narrow bars across the floor.

Anonymous Sun May 9 06:30:06 2010 No.5082934
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>>5081231

What's the matter, Zun? Too loli for you?

>>5079060

If you had the time to even translate one or two a week I'd be so very grateful.

>>5081217

The recent AT video showing a demonstration of the new 3D models shows that the girls have 3 separate models that are small, medium and large. It doesn't show Cocona in the video but Tilia comes under small and Cocona is only 13 so I imagine she does too. So since they share the same base model I imagine they have similar animations. Of course I could be completely wrong since I haven't got my hands on a copy of AT3 yet.

>>5081221

>Why do we have to have a thread for it everyday?

It's made on average once a week with a post every few hours. It also hits the bump limit every time. And if you want to know what it is then go play it.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 09:31:06 2010 No.5083569 it's also mostly image dumps with the same images posted over and over

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 09:48:06 2010 No.5083656 >>5083569 You're welcome to check the archive for these threads, most of them get 300 posts with 50 or less images posted. The only time it's image dumped is when Sion decides to shit up the place even more than usual.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 09:57:06 2010 No.5083718 >EP=NOVA You know, it's really damn strange. I hate this song, but I love CUTYPUMP, even though they're both pretty similar.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 12:53:06 2010 No.5084612 >>5083718 >I love CUTYPUMP Enjoy your ear rape, good sir.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 12:55:06 2010 No.5084632 File: 191 KB, 600x837, b4c89ea573b44564867001334b07c2e6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5083718 It would please me to no end if moot were to make EXEC_EP=NOVA/. /jp/'s background music for a day.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:00:06 2010 No.5084667 >>5084632 This would be amazing.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:03:06 2010 No.5084683 >>5084632 My penis is now hard.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:05:06 2010 No.5084696 >>5081032 >>5081026 I love that face.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 13:16:06 2010 No.5084762 >>5083718 >>5084612 I like both of them, but find the other AT3 ones uninteresting. Wonder if my opinion of them would change after I played AT3, but localization where? ;_;

Anonymous Sun May 9 13:44:06 2010 No.5084944

>>5081251
IIRC it's alluded to in the in-game dictionary, but not really explained.

If I'm following the settei book correctly it's something like this ... There are two song magic servers in the tower of Harvestasya - one where Tilia's Binary Field exists, and the other where the Cosmospheres of all the Sol Cluster Betas is stored. The first server is capable of sampling (sampling what?) at much higher frequencies. This is why it's where Arkia stored Sakia's Cosmosphere, as the support for cosmospheres with higher spiritual frequencies is necessary for supporting a Gamma Sublimate - really the only huge difference between a regular Beta and a Gamma Sublimate is the latter's much higher maximum spiritual frequency. The settei book says that the "proper owner" of the second SH server is an incorporeal reyvateil named β-6D. I think you can think of it this way: if the contents of the SH RAM in the first server makes up Tilia's Binary Field, the contents of the SH RAM in the second server makes up β-6D's cosmosphere. The settei book also say that β-6D's SH RAM is basically partitioned into the cosmospheres of all the Betas in Sol Cluster.

There's a bit more about this in a section that talks about the different modes supported by the various origins, but that's a bit harder to follow, so I'll post something about that later ...

Anonymous Sun May 9 17:43:06 2010 No.5086755

>>5084944

Excuse the possibly stupid question but I understand that Harvestasya has two song magic servers but how exactly does Cocona manage to sing METHOD_HYMMELI? It's my understanding that because Cocona is out of range of Infel Pira (Which is her song magic server) she is basically a normal human and thus doesn't need the life extending reagent. So how exactly does she perform that hymn, which is still under Infel Pira since it's still a METHOD_ hymmnos?

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:17:06 2010 No.5087367

>>5086755
She must still be close enough to Infel Phira to be within range. The Reyvasilencer patches she brought that go over the install point and block the connection to the Tower are probably what allow her to function normally. ISTR she got shot down when she got to Sol Cluster because Clusternia detected her presence and didn't want foreign Reyvateils coming in, which would support that view. I have my doubts, since I thought Sol Cluster was supposed to be halfway around the world from Sol Ciel, and I thought Ar Tonelico's reach only covered about 1/3 of the planet, but I could be swapping those two figures, in which case it kiiiiiiiind of makes sense if you assume that IP works within AT's range. I flipped through the AT2 settei book but didn't find anything that says one way or another off-hand.

Cocona's kind of weird in a number of respects, though. Her Reyvateil nature hadn't manifested to the point where she can really sing song magic and needs diquility (remember that in AT2 her cosmosphere wasn't fully formed yet). And yet, she can use fireballs in battle and sing METHOD_HYMMELI/. Did she suddenly come of age when flying over with Sasha? (Well, that sounds a little different from what I was trying to say, but ... )

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:21:35 2010 No.5087392 [DELETED]

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Anonymous Sun May 9 19:26:06 2010 No.5087434
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>>5087367

That's what strikes me as odd though. Infel Pira has a considerably shorter range compared to normal towers so IPD's need to be relatively close to Metafalss in order to retain their powers. And I imagine Cocona's powers manifesting relatively early is something to do with Croix breaking through her Binary Field while she was still developing. Reyvateils are generally thought to come into their Reyvateil powers around 15 years old and Cocona is only 13 yet she's singing in AT3 already.

Anonymous Sun May 9 19:29:06 2010 No.5087462

>>5086755
>>5087367

I was confused by this because of what was said in the Toukospheres as well. However, after I looked at it again, Infel says that IP can project anywhere on the planet because it is of significantly lower power than the other servers (some mumbo-jumbo to do with the wavelength was given as justification, I think). Mir was the one who said that Cocona's Reyvateil side would become dormant if she got out of range of IP. However, it seems that she simply wasn't aware of IP's long range compared to the other servers. What she said is probably still true, it's just that Cocona can't get out of IP's range without leaving the planet.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:32:06 2010 No.5087479 >>5087434 Cocona isn't a vanguard in AT3? Also, wasn't Infel Phira ended when Metafalica was sung?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:33:06 2010 No.5087489 AT3 will never come to America ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:35:06 2010 No.5087497 >>5087462 If reyvateil sides become dormant, do they still need LEAs?

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:40:06 2010 No.5087532 Go take your frustration elsewhere, Sion. >>5087479 She is, she just sings a key hymmnos in AT3 though.

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:42:06 2010 No.5087541 >>5087497 No, not according to Mir. I'm trying to find the Toukosphere about it right now.

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Anonymous Sun May 9 19:46:06 2010 No.5087575

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_70
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_77

These are the two that I could find on the subject, but I know that there's another one that mentions Infel Pira's extended range. I can't find where it is for the life of me.

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 19:57:06 2010 No.5087635 >>5087628 Jesus chrsit what the lol

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:05:06 2010 No.5087694 NO SION NO

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Anonymous Sun May 9 20:08:06 2010 No.5087726

>>5087541
Also no according to the AT3 settei book.

"Outside the range of their tower, [3rd-gens'] Reyvateil nature will simply become dormant, but their human nature will continue to function normally. In other words, they'll become just like normal humans. They won't need LEM, either." (Betas will become dormant outside the range of their tower, though, because so many of their mental and spiritual functions actually take place in the Tower's SH RAM. "That's why Meta Falss is the limit of Jakuri's (Mir's) range, and she'd have to essentially go into roaming mode to get to the third tower." I assume they mean something like in Tilia's true end where Aoto runs off to the rest of the world to try to find a way to save the world without shortening Tilia's life; Sasha makes signal amplifiers for the Tower so Tilia can go with him and still communicate with the Tower of Harvestasya.)

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:12:06 2010 No.5087751 >>5087575 Thanks. ... 77 confuses me even more, though, because it implies that Infel Phira's range is even shorter than AT's, so I have no idea why Hymmeli worked. Maybe I should make a submission to the Technical Service Center ...

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 20:15:06 2010 No.5087774 U mad, Sion?

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>>	Anomynous Sun May 9 20:22:06 2010 No.5087823 >>5087489 If AT3 isn't licensed for release in the US I'll work to help translate it. Not that I'm worth much of anything since I can't translate.

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Anonymous Sun May 9 20:32:06 2010 No.5087896

>>5087751

Well, not necessarily. It also implies that higher-power servers require relay devices in order to project over the same distance. Like I said, I know there's another one that says that IP can reach pretty much everywhere on the planet, but I can't seem to find it.

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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun May 9 20:45:06 2010 No.5087999 File: 126 KB, 763x959, shurelia6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My face when Sion showed that he was still mad over what happened a whole week ago.

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>>	Sun May 9 21:02:06 2010 No.5088179 AT girls are very rapeable

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:02:06 2010 No.5088181 >>5071218 what plugins shouuld i use?, also whats w32pthreads.v3 and portaudio_x86_noasio

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:14:06 2010 No.5088291 >>5088181 also, how do i get rid of the lines when i start it?, theres black lines going across the screen

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>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 21:31:06 2010 No.5088436 >>5087999 What was up with all this, anyway?

Anonymous Sun May 9 21:53:06 2010 No.5088611

>>5088181

Here's what I use: http://img.waffleimages.com/0faa1f3ce80133c5a3ed6311fcec32cd20ce92d0/plugins.JPG
Hosting it elsewhere since Sion has shit up the thread again and hit the image cap. I have no idea about those other things though, where are you seeing them?

Anonymous Sun May 9 21:56:06 2010 No.5088646

>>5088181

Get the latest plugins from the PCSX2 website, the last update was March I think. I'm using GSdx, everything else is using default plugins/settings. I enabled 8 bit textures to play Shadow of the Colossus so I'm not sure if it affects AT1/AT2 since I usually have it turned off.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/615/settingsd.png

>>5088436

It's just Sion craving more attention whilst he's going through puberty. Hopefully the janitor/mod will clean up the image dump... again.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:08:06 2010 No.5088738 >>5088611 isn't all of the latest plug ins in the download in the 2nd post?

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:28:06 2010 No.5088903 >>5088646 >>5088611 thanks for helping

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 22:55:06 2010 No.5089179 >>5088738 Yeah, the ATFLPP™ has the most recent plugin pack.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:01:06 2010 No.5089235 A little late, but I remember reading that β-6D is just a special sector withing the first tower.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:32:36 2010 No.5089501 File: 264 KB, 1010x603, sionmad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why so butthurt sion?

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun May 9 23:39:01 2010 No.5089563 Janitor, can you hit the "delete all posts by this IP" button on Sion here. >>5087501 Thanks in advance.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 9 23:43:06 2010 No.5089587 >>5088646 >>5089501 Why don't the mods just ban him?

Anonymous Sun May 9 23:49:06 2010 No.5089636

>>5089235
Oh, I was going to post that bit, thanks for reminding me ... This is maybe oversimplifying a little, but the basic meaning should still be here.

Settei book page 128 basically says: Shurelia is essentially a huge, expensive, powerful preset in ROM. (The thing she's running on is called an HD cellophane, which is kind of like a D cellophane except it's a preset for just about everything.) She's pretty powerful but has essentially zero adaptive abilitie, which is why she still has pretty much the same personality she did 700 years ago. Frelia was a prototype for the self-reconfiguring memory system that all the betas use - she's mostly not all that different from a Beta. Tilia could theoretically work the same way as Frelia (even better, due to technological advances), but she's currently running on preset memory, like Shurelia, probably as a precaution since she's so important.

Now! According to the Settei books, as far as the Tower of Ar Tonelico is concerned, there are only three Reyvateils - Shurelia, Frelia, and β-6D. All other Reyvateils are essentially sub-components of β-6D. Things that "effect all Reyvateils" are actually effects on β-6D. Remember, β-6D is basically a Reyvateil who isn't bound to a body. Other Reyvateils are essentially sub-partitions of β-6D's cosmosphere that *are* bound to a body. Mir didn't know about β-6D, but seems to have had an inkling that such global effects were possible, which helped cause the events of the Reyvateil uprising in Sol Ciel's second age, apparently.

Anonymous Sun May 9 23:51:06 2010 No.5089640

>>5089636
Stupid Field too long.

Since their cosmospheres are bound to non-essential parts of the Tower (the Service Infrastructure, or SIS), Shurelia and preset-mode Tilia will suspend with their Towers, but Frelia will not, since she essentially works the same as a Beta, and the SH RAM of the song servers is in an essential part of the Tower (the Basic Infrastructure, or BIS). Other bits of the BIS apparently include weather control and power regulation (i.e. the Musical Corridor and the Plasma Bell). Shurelia's cosmosphere is in the SIS to prevent having to completely shut down the tower if something happens and she goes out of control - she'll suspend if you suspend the tower, but since the tower is only in suspend mode, you don't shut off things like weather control. Since β-6D is also part of the BIS, other Reyvateils don't shut down with the Tower. (Third-generations will essentially become humans if they leave the effective range of their tower since they're part human and part Reyvateil, so their Reyvateil bits shut off and they essentially revert to being humans. Betas, on the other hand, are ALL Reyvateil, so they suspend if they leave their tower's effective range.)

Anonymous Sun May 9 23:58:06 2010 No.5089676

>>5089636
> She's pretty powerful but has essentially zero adaptive abilitie, which is why she still has pretty much the same personality she did 700 years ago.

In other words, if Lyner chooses her, it doesn't matter because she isn't programmed to change, and will eventually have no memory of the guy once he dies since she can't save anything other than current knowledge?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 00:12:06 2010 No.5089739 >>5089676 No, of course not. She remembers people from the past perfectly well.

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>>5089766
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>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon May 10 05:55:06 2010 No.5091331 File: 216 KB, 567x600, 0b24ac6bf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon May 10 08:33:06 2010 No.5091851
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>>5091331
Sometimes I wonder if that's actually canon if you don't choose her route, but they decide not to show it for some odd reason.
I like to think it is, because it's adorable.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 08:35:06 2010 No.5091867 >>5091851 Skycat deserves better than Luca.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 08:43:06 2010 No.5091909 >>5091867 Nah, I think Luca's crazy is kind of canceled out around Skycat because they're both a little bonkers. It's the perfect fit.

Anonymous Mon May 10 08:48:43 2010 No.5091940

>>5091909
Kuca is not so much crazy, as self-centered, dishonest and pretebtions while hiding her true feelings.
Skycat is obsessive though. She does have a point as to why Luca never straight out calls her a friend or at least properly tell her leave me alone, but bitch, if you get the hint, WHY INSIST?

Anonymous Mon May 10 08:53:06 2010 No.5091967

>>5091909
Luca is not so much crazy, as self-centered, dishonest and pretends to be friendly while hiding her true feelings.
Skycat is obsessive though. She does have a point as to why Luca never straight out calls her a friend or at least properly tell her leave me alone, but bitch, if you get the hint, WHY INSIST? What exactly worthwhile did you find, aside from the body which is really not the most impressive one?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:26:06 2010 No.5092530 File: 274 KB, 1280x960, snap142.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5091967 You'd still hit it, Anonymous.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:50:06 2010 No.5092648 >>5091967 You're right about Luca being crazy, but I'm going to have to disagree with you about her looks. She's got the absolute perfect body, at least for my tastes. It's really too bad that her personality ruins it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:55:06 2010 No.5092667 >>5092648 My point was that she is not crazy, just a horrible person. Skycat is a bit damaged/ >>5092530 Have never even done her path in teh game, so no.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 10:59:06 2010 No.5092686 >>5092667 Err, my bad. I did mean crazy in the horrible person way, not the psychotic way.

Anonymous Mon May 10 11:17:06 2010 No.5092764
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>>5092667

I haven't done Luca's route yet but I still find her attractive. Her personality is definitely a turn off but she's far more attractive compared to Cloche.. Not that it matters since Jakuri is the clear choice.

Anonymous Mon May 10 11:24:06 2010 No.5092786

>>5092764
Now see, this is where it falls apart.
More attractive than Cloche?
And even without that, I just came from AT 1 where you had Misha.
Now there is a voluptuous black haired girls with a nice decorative dress that makes soem SENSE and a LOLI form too.
And with a nice personality to boot.
Everything Luca 'has', from positive traits to backstory and reasons to angst, somebody does it better in the series than her.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 11:25:06 2010 No.5092793 >>5092764 >>5092786 And yes, Jakuri is the ONLY choice

Anonymous Mon May 10 11:29:06 2010 No.5092813

>>5092786
Opinyans. Personally, I like her more than Misha.

Also, I'm impressed how some people still call Luca a bitch even after playing through her route and seeing what she went through. If they even bothered, of course, instead of regurgitating what they heard. And this discussion has been had in previous threads.

WeAreHarbinger Mon May 10 11:32:06 2010 No.5092828

>>5092813
I played through her route.
Everything that cause her 'grief', impacts someone else worse.
Compared to Cloche, that's for sure.
Compared to past heroines too.
Not the best development or nest choice of events.
Not so much 'disliking' the character, rather the designers did not do a great work of making her a bit more sympathetic.
And when you do not give the best incentive to try her route in the first place, that is a valid point in itself.

Anonymous Mon May 10 11:41:06 2010 No.5092863

>>5092828
Again, opinyans.
>And when you do not give the best incentive to try her route in the first place, that is a valid point in itself.
I found Cloche's "I FORBID RESEARCHING THE CURE FOR A DANGEROUS EPIDEMIC!!1" a good incentive to not follow her route, myself. As far as we knew at that point, at least.
>Everything that cause her 'grief', impacts someone else worse.
That means nothing. She's been tormented her whole life, by various factors. These things add up. Are you saying she should be all smiles and flowers?

Anonymous Mon May 10 11:45:06 2010 No.5092885

>>5092863
The fact that she does not allow it is a PLOT incentive.

And no, I mean that just for the 'symathy factor', it's like comparing someone who lost an arm, and then someone who for the first time he realized he even HAS legs and then loses them both and an arm.
You are more likely to feel sorry for the later.

To generalize it, even if something is not bad, when you have something that is done better as a choice...

Anonymous Mon May 10 11:50:06 2010 No.5092916

>>5092885
>The fact that she does not allow it is a PLOT incentive.
But you don't know it at that point. Hence my "as far as we knew".

>And no, I mean that just for the 'symathy factor', it's like comparing someone who lost an arm, and then someone who for the first time he realized he even HAS legs and then loses them both and an arm.
You are more likely to feel sorry for the later.
That's quite an imaginative metaphor, but not too accurate. Both Cloche and Luca suffered. They both did bad things. End of story.

>To generalize it, even if something is not bad, when you have something that is done better as a choice...
The same as above.

Anonymous Mon May 10 13:08:06 2010 No.5093479
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>Play Mana Khemia
>Nefertiti plays
>Play Ar Tonelico
>Any hymn plays
>Play Atelier Iris
>Deceitful Wings plays
>Play Atelier Iris 2
>Red Lucifer Rising plays
FUCK YES I LOVE YOU GUST. I still gotta do Ulrika's route to actually get to the real final battle in MK2 and I just started playing AI3. Most people told me to stay away from it because they said it was pretty shitty, but at this point, I don't really care anymore.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 14:35:06 2010 No.5093964 >>5093479 That reminds me that I need to download Mana Khemia to play after I finish AT2.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 14:36:06 2010 No.5093968 File: 166 KB, 1280x1024, Delicious Anna.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5093964 Forgot my image.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 14:40:06 2010 No.5093991 You guys shouldn't forget to play Mana Khemia 2 as well, great game. Especially Raze's side, Lily and Puniyo are comedy gold.

Anonymous Mon May 10 15:01:06 2010 No.5094119
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>Luca hate
>Luca love

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Settei_book_2_translation/Heroines_section
>She was an heroine that was born when we began thinking the ways in which we could express at the same time the beauty and uncleanness of the humans. Even if you are charmed or scared because of the negative aspects that we drew on her, maybe you will be able to truly feel her as a very near person to you... that is what I wish.

Anonymous Mon May 10 15:02:06 2010 No.5094128

>>5093964
Do it. It's engrossing.

>>5093479
Speaking of AI, I had a minor complaint about 2. Usually, white hair is meant for characters who have something special about them. Felt was a common RPG protagonist, and I felt that the white hair was somewhat wasted on him.

Also, if you liked Red Lucifer Rising, you'll love this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnYqhQVkS8
This and Carmine (also remixed in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL_TQBOUyBU)) are my favorites from AI2, along with Zeldalia's forest theme from AI1.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 15:30:06 2010 No.5094316 >>5093991 The part where the super-serious Yun was outed as a moe enthusiast had me in stitches.

Anonymous Mon May 10 16:25:06 2010 No.5094869

>>5094128
That's understandable. One would think that white hair would mean he's hiding something special. In his defense, though, Felt did learn mana synthesis faster than Viese. He was just more interested in sword fighting. I, personally, enjoyed AI2 more than AI1. I loved the characters in AI2 a whole lot better than the ones in AI1.

I was actually listening to that this morning and decided to hunt it down. I found a site that has the Atelier Iris OSTs and S.S.H. arranges. Pretty sweet.
http://snesorama.us/board/showthread.php?t=44662

Anonymous Mon May 10 17:23:06 2010 No.5095471

>>5094119

They succeeded in a way. Only it's one extreme or the other. I see plenty of people calling her a bitch and I know there's plenty of people who actually like her and think she's a good character too but you never really see someone who's in between.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 10 19:50:06 2010 No.5096596 Is it explained why Mute has such a manly body?

Anonymous Mon May 10 21:08:06 2010 No.5097190

>>5096596
It's the effects of EXEC_CUTYPUMP/. She is normally a cute little girl, but EXEC_CUTYPUMP/. turns her into the manliest magical girl ever. Incidentally, EXEC_CUTYPUMP/. was a prototype song constructed by Loudness for the sorts of controls on Reyvateils that Arkia was developing for the Human Advancement Project. It's not clear to me whether he was experimenting on his beloved only daughter, or whether she picked it up on her own to help her get revenge on Arkia on his behalf.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 11 05:57:06 2010 No.5100338 >>5097190 I see, thanks. I can't help but laugh every time I see Mute's delicious abs.

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 11 16:38:06 2010 No.5103224 >>5097190 By the way is Mute really Loudness' daughter, as in a 3rd gen born from him and another Reyvateil, or is she just another pureblooded he happened to nurse ?

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>>	Anonymous Tue May 11 18:35:06 2010 No.5104197 >>5103224 >Mute >Loudness It's like I'm playing Eternal Sonata again.

Anonymous Tue May 11 19:19:06 2010 No.5104595

>>5103224
She's his daughter, according to the settei book. (She's 30 in AT3, he was 51 in AT2.) Actually, according to the, he left when she was only 5, and it wasn't until a year later that Arkia kicked out all the scientists that wanted to heal the planet instead of make humans into ubermensch and make reyvateils their slaves. So, ignore the first half of my last sentence in >>5097190 as it was completely uncalled for.

>>5104197
I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I didn't get that until most of the way through the game when you have this optional scene with her in Arkia, and I'm like, "yeah, yeah, Mute, we know you're Loudness's dau- OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

>>	Anonymous Tue May 11 20:00:06 2010 No.5104895 >>5104595 Wait, Mute is 30? I thought she was like 16 or something with delicious abs.

Anomynous Tue May 11 20:50:06 2010 No.5105260

>>5104895
It's as arbitrary an age as is used for most of the other characters in games. Especially considering Japan's tendency to put ages at unreasonably low numbers for the appearance and behavior of the characters.

30 is higher than I expected, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 11 22:54:06 2010 No.5106215 File: 272 KB, 800x777, 10599186.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5105260 I figured that but as you say 30 is a little too old.

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 01:05:06 2010 No.5107209 >>5107187 I have my list of all possible utf-8 characters ready, but it's getting really fucking late and I need my sleep. The spam always happens at this hour, jeez. Will update when I feel like it/when he uses a new method.

Anonymous Wed May 12 01:55:06 2010 No.5107543

>>5106215
Remember, Reyvateils are canonical eternal lolis. (Well, not really, but they stop aging by age 17. So, for example, Akane will look exactly the same way she does now until she dies in 130 years or so.) So yes, Mute doesn't look as old as she is. Neither does Shurelia.

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>>5107543

But she's a 3rd gen reyvateil so her life span is considerably shorter, hence their need for the life extending reagent. They also age normally, I believe? It's only pureblooded B-types like Misha/Jakuri that live for a considerably longer time. And the origins too, of course.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 09:53:06 2010 No.5109810 Is there a reason why the generic IPDs in AT2 are all lesbian for Luca?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 09:58:06 2010 No.5109840 >>5109810 You mean Cloche, right? A few joined because they want to protect Cloche's dreams or watch her sleep or something. Really weird stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 10:00:06 2010 No.5109851 >>5109840 No, when you're doing dive therapy it's clear that a good handful of them are attracted to Luca.

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 13:53:06 2010 No.5110948 >>5109851 Most of them go for the Croche twin hills.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 13:59:06 2010 No.5110975 >>5110948 >the Croche twin mountains. Fixed

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 14:17:06 2010 No.5111044 >>5110948 They all join Croche's fan club once they're cured and meet the specific requirements but during the dive therapy a lot of them seem to hit on Luca for whatever reason, despite only just meeting her for the first time.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 14:49:06 2010 No.5111154 >>5110975 Her MOM has the mountains.

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 15:49:06 2010 No.5111385 >>5111168 What?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 16:00:06 2010 No.5111440 >>5111385 I think it's cleverly disguised spam as it wants you to call a number; nobody would release their phone number on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 16:38:06 2010 No.5111675 >>5109840 >>5109851 >>5111044 Wouldn't you want to tap a Reyvanteil the moment you meet her?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 16:49:06 2010 No.5111761 >>5111675 But of course. Thinking about it another way I'm sure it'd make a nice show to watch seeing Luca and some generic IPD engaging in delicious yuri.

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 20:38:06 2010 No.5113373 >>5113365 Luca is the worst character ever. I think Croix would prefer anyone over her.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 20:50:06 2010 No.5113452 >>5113373 Yes, yes, "Luca is a bitch everyone should hate her," the same song and dance recited five thousand times already, everyone heard you the first time.

>>	Anomynous Wed May 12 20:50:06 2010 No.5113453 File: 227 KB, 1296x998, HNNGH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5113373 I'll withhold judgment until I go through her route, currently letting heart recover from Jacqli's cosmosphere

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 21:35:06 2010 No.5113717 >>5113453 She's too good for Croix. I'm surprised she didn't try to steal Lyner from Shurelia considering their relationship and how Lyner saved her and such.

Anonymous Wed May 12 22:35:06 2010 No.5113958

>>5113453
Don't bother. Such recovery is impossible. I finished AT2 a few months ago and I still can't help giggling like a schoolgirl at how Jakuri is the best.

Oh, and on-topic for the OP picture, I just finished the AT2 light novel ... INFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL T_T

I mean, I know how Infel was all broken up over how everyone betrayed her, and then because of that Raki came down and killed her waifu, but it's rather a different thing to read about her running out scared into the city the night before because of the IPDs talking about how excited they were to sing Metafalica and see Infel's mind, and then Nenesha and Ana (their personal guard, who's basically a female Croix clone - yeah, I know, redundant) hold her and and say they'll stick with her no matter what, even if she decides to run away instead of singing Metafalica. And that gives her the confidence to sing it, that people might not reject her. And then the IPDs all stop singing one by one on the actual day. And then Raki comes down, and Ana covers for them while they run off. And then Nenesha tells off the IPDs who are bitching at Infel for being "so shallow" because she had her own reasons for singing Metafalica and wasn't doing it just to fulfill her role as the miko to make everyone happy. And then Raki comes back, covered in blood, with a couple of swords stuck in her and Ana's blood-stained hair wrapped around her foot. And then she sticks her hand inside Nenesha's chest, uninstalls the D-cellophane, and leaves. And then you cut to the modern day when Cloche and Luka sing Metafalica, and Infel saves Cloche, and is all "... Nenesha, I wish you could have seen this."

Dammit. *bawls*

It also has Targana helping Sasha move (but getting taken out by Skycat's Lelena Trulywaath Soup), and Jakuri being all happy that Spica will get to see Metafalica happen with her. A+++++++ would read again

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>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 23:12:06 2010 No.5114135 >>5114018 >underage newfags Ironic statement there.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 12 23:14:06 2010 No.5114145 >>5114018 Sion, how old are you? Aren't you around delete's age? You must be.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed May 12 23:24:06 2010 No.5114218 File: 92 KB, 475x665, 1251837664457.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5114018 y u still mad tho >>5113114 It's OK; he is just making sweet 2D love with his wife.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 05:20:06 2010 No.5116070 >>5114218 No, tender loving and posting pictures of various girls (mainly Jakuri) being cummed inside are two different things.

>>	Anomynous Thu May 13 08:48:06 2010 No.5116558 File: 228 KB, 1296x998, HNNNNGGGGHH.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5113958 >Such recovery is impossible. All things great and small will fade in time. But for now...

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 10:39:06 2010 No.5116915 File: 134 KB, 850x850, 1244212155989.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys, a simple question, were BASARA, Flame ~ HOMURA and Waterway ~ MIO ever in AT2?

Anonymous Thu May 13 11:03:06 2010 No.5117026
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>>5116915
In addition to this question, here's another one.

Who's Rhaplanca and why does she appear in a few Hymms (Implanta and Metafalica for example)?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 11:09:06 2010 No.5117077 anyone here played mana khemia?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 11:12:06 2010 No.5117094 File: 1.10 MB, 1600x1200, d50f6846125987288a35eb29ef419e9a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5117077 Played MK 1 and 2 after both Ar Tonelico. Didn't enjoy them as much as AT, but Puniyo's cuteness is a miracle of the universe.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 11:16:06 2010 No.5117117 >>5116915 Negative. And there is a Utau Oka telling Rhaplanca's tale, I'm not sure if it's the same person, though.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 11:35:06 2010 No.5117209 >>5116915 They're songs that weren't implemented into the game but were still included in the Hymmnos albums which is a shame really since Waterway ~MIO~ is one of my favourite tracks from the entire AT series.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 11:39:06 2010 No.5117232 I liked MK 1 and 2 much more than AT1, about the same level as AT2.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 12:14:06 2010 No.5117444 >>5117232 I always thought AT1 was better than 2. Give AT1 the better combat system and throw in Cocona and you'd have an awesome game.

Anonymous Thu May 13 13:14:06 2010 No.5117736
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>>5117077
I played MK1 before I did the ATs and then I played MK2. Personally, I enjoyed MK1 more than the ATs. MK2 was good too but just wasn't as good as MK1, in my opinion. However, the world of Ar Tonelico > than Mana Khemia world. MK1 characters are god tier though. Anna is mai waifu.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 17:02:06 2010 No.5119012 File: 226 KB, 914x841, 10622838.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5117736 Anna is indeed the best character in MK1.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 21:45:06 2010 No.5121422 >>5119012 She was, plotwise, the strongest character in the game and, probably, in my team. Quick Dream x infinitum

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 22:30:06 2010 No.5121686 downloaded AT1 and this >DVCI: File cache was not hit that appear all the time and its runing fucking slow halp

>>	Anonymous Thu May 13 23:57:06 2010 No.5122184 >>5121686 Is your computer up to spec?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 06:45:54 2010 No.5124108 File: 106 KB, 550x891, 10638818.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Inudrill is doing quite a lot of loli Jakuri recently, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri May 14 08:16:01 2010 No.5124400 [DELETED]

>>5124108
I think he drew an infant Jakuri with a pacifier once. Inudrill sure loves his 2D wife.

>>5117736
>>the world of Ar Tonelico = the Mana Khemia world

Same world, but Ar Tonelico takes place in the future. /jp/ agreed!

But of course we're probably completely wrong, but at least it was a cool idea.

>>	Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo Fri May 14 08:24:01 2010 No.5124417 File: 53 KB, 430x607, 124986.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124108 >>5124400 Reported for toddlercon

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri May 14 08:27:01 2010 No.5124431 >>5124417 Reported for being a nerd. By the way, VC is damned awesome. Finally played it earlier today.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 08:28:35 2010 No.5124433 >>5124417 Should you not be playing MW2 or something?

>>	Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo Fri May 14 08:55:01 2010 No.5124520 File: 68 KB, 1280x720, 1271611748975.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124433 I already am wanna start a party?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:15:35 2010 No.5124574 >>5124520 But I don't have MW2. Don't get my hopes up like that.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:24:07 2010 No.5124603 File: 307 KB, 480x640, 9002414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124520 Some random fag named Hishoku literally just sent me a friend request and apparently he is a huge fag with 100% gamerscore on like 20 different games

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:26:35 2010 No.5124609 >>5124603 Not me, if I wanted to send you a friend request I'd have done it long ago when I took Sion.png. Perhaps some faggot you just played with?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:28:07 2010 No.5124614 >>5124603 http://www.insanityelite.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=201 Dam Hishoku you sure put alot of time into WoW, 4335 hours worth!

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:29:07 2010 No.5124618 File: 20 KB, 400x400, 2713458.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124614 And nice job on revoking that friend request

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri May 14 09:42:01 2010 No.5124654 >>5124603 >>Some random fag named Hishoku literally just sent me a friend request and apparently he is a huge fag Takes one to know one, Sion.

Anonymous Fri May 14 09:48:35 2010 No.5124673 [DELETED]

>>5124614

1658 hours on Final Fantasy too.

>>5124618

You can do that? I thought it sends you a message or something. They seem to be an Ar Tonelibro at least if the Steam profile is anything to go by. Maybe I'll send him a friend request. You've lost my potential friendship, Sion. Anyway this is all off topic so sage, reported etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 09:51:01 2010 No.5124683 File: 607 KB, 1024x578, Sion the chibi troll.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124520 All bark and no bite, Sion-chan.

>>	Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo Fri May 14 09:58:01 2010 No.5124708 File: 81 KB, 1280x720, [Ryuumaru] Mayoi Neko Overrun! - 04 [720p][CE95332B].mkv_snapshot_10.34_[2010.05.01_06.14.38].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124673 >Ar Tonelibro >steam

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:13:01 2010 No.5124778 File: 273 KB, 640x480, 0648da9c5d56a7a4d2ef8b4f5efd8a1c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Have you praised your Sublimation today?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:14:07 2010 No.5124786 >>5124708 You speak like it's a rare sight, many Hotglue/Steam bros are Ar Tonelibros.

>>	Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo Fri May 14 10:23:01 2010 No.5124813 File: 44 KB, 409x375, [Ryuumaru] Mayoi Neko Overrun! - 04 [720p][CE95332B].mkv_snapshot_00.23_[2010.04.28_22.05.47].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124786 >Hotglue

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:27:01 2010 No.5124835 File: 109 KB, 885x504, ar-tonelico-3-flip-gravie-005.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5124813 >I got left out

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 10:56:06 2010 No.5124970 >>5094316 The part where Goto had to pretend to be a gay wrestler and a pedophile were worse

Anonymous Fri May 14 11:00:06 2010 No.5124991

>>5124400
Order is AI2, AI1, AI3 (they say it's a seperate universe, don't believe them), MK, MK2, (future Atelier series games), Ar tonelico series.
It makes sense kind of. You have some remnants of alchemy in the Ar tonelico world in the form of crafting in At1, so it's possible it is related and humanity is being punished for playing as God (by creating Reyvateils).

Anonymous Fri May 14 14:15:06 2010 No.5126017

>>5124991

I'm sure that there's a loose but non-canonical connection between the series, of course, but I don't think that grathmelding=alchemy. Grathmelding was invented by Shurelia as a user-friendly replacement for the β's song magic, and it draws its power from the tower like most everything else.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 17:52:07 2010 No.5127266 I see A.M. is being asshurt as usual.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 20:58:06 2010 No.5128574 File: 1.07 MB, 1500x2000, 10650932.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A couple of relevant posts deleted but thanks again, meido.

Anonymous Fri May 14 21:19:06 2010 No.5128782

>>5126017
And who's to say it doesn't have origins in Atelier alchemy? Hell, life extending agents might even be broken Ruby Prism shards with their output and capacity minimized. After all, Iris Blanchimont managed to make an artificial lifeform that required a crystal power source, and it had adverse effects on the lifeform if the crystal was not working anymore/gone, eventually leading to shutdown. Sound familiar?
Someone found Iris' notes and expanded on it, leading to the birth of Reyvateils, and eventually, the demise of surface life. It wouldn't be the first time the Atelier world got fucked up/implied to be fucked up and changed (From AI2 to 1, major geographical change).

Anonymous Fri May 14 21:50:06 2010 No.5129043

>>5128782

This might work if β-types and origins required the life extending reagent since they're artificially created. Normal human girls aka 3rd generation reyvateils however are created through normal human birth and only require the reagent because of the impact the reyvateil gene has on the human body when connected to its respective tower. It's highly unlike this artificial lifeform 'dirtied' the human gene pool but they do sound very similar to one another.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 14 21:51:06 2010 No.5129055 >>5129043 >It's highly unlike It's highly unlikely, deletion timer etc.

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>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 00:16:06 2010 No.5130134 File: 809 KB, 1000x1000, 10654576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Tilia so delicious, /jp/?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 00:27:06 2010 No.5130199 I've been listening to EXEC_Z/. lately and I can't get the beginning part out of my head. It's more "generic" than the other AT songs (though it still has the AT style) but is still pretty nice. Also, Xaaci is ear rape tier.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 04:05:06 2010 No.5131107 > Also, Xaaci is ear rape tier. Until 3:30 (or 5:04 if you prefer) when it transforms into awesome tier. My favorite is still EXEC_FLIP_FUSIONSPHERE/. though, too bad that in-game it did nothing except accidentally fuck up the tower.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 04:10:06 2010 No.5131114 >>5130134 Because flatness.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 08:16:06 2010 No.5131871 >>5131107 Interesting. It's always been one of my favourite songs from AT3 and the lyrics don't have any bad intentions or anything, it's just telling a sad story in song form. How exactly does it fuck up the tower?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 14:24:06 2010 No.5133656 File: 599 KB, 921x1200, 10671969.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5131114

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 16:35:06 2010 No.5135114 File: 134 KB, 1000x800, 10672076_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Delicious Tilia, must fap.

Anonymous Sat May 15 17:18:06 2010 No.5135566

>>5131107
AFAIK, since Finnel made up the song on the spot without having any experience creating high-power hymns, she didn't consider the tower's maximum throughput and overloaded and crashed it with the power flow of her song. It's also mentioned that only Gamma Sublimated Reyvateils like Saki are supposed to be capable of singing EXEC_FLIP songs, not Betas like Finnel.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 19:07:06 2010 No.5136400 >>5135566 I wonder if Tilia gets a BSoD when the server crashes.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 23:25:06 2010 No.5138549 File: 340 KB, 900x893, 10668532.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 23:39:06 2010 No.5138629 >>5136400 Tilia runs off a different part to the Beta-types, with the exception of Saki. The third tower has a somewhat complex structure compared to the other two. There's a diagram somewhere, but I can't find it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 15 23:56:06 2010 No.5138714 If you could have an extra singer for the hymmnos concerts/games, who would you choose? For me, it'd be Origa; her vocals chorus work (like in Inner Universe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7QpX9FT2R8)) suit AT perfectly.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 00:03:06 2010 No.5138744 File: 326 KB, 800x1067, dsc00118u.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5138629

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 03:57:06 2010 No.5140045 >>5138744 Can't understand shit. ;_;

Anonymous Sun May 16 08:12:06 2010 No.5140854

>>5138629

Now I'm confused. It was mentioned that Sakia is stored in one server so I assume Saki uses it and Tilia use the same server whilst the rest of the Sol Cluster reyvateils use the other. Why would the other server which is used exclusively for β-types run the same ruleset as the first (No β-type can sing EXEC_FLIP etc.) when it's used solely for β-types.. and how is it even able to run Finnel's EXEC_FLIP song? I know it crashed the tower but I'd have thought that the server limited to β-types wouldn't be able to execute such commands or else I could see the tower crashing constantly while some random revyateil trolls the rest of Sol Cluster.

>>5138714

Lia would probably be nice.

That so? he asked indifferently and ruined the spittoon again Pooxydext Sun May 16 08:13:57 2010 No.5140858 [DELETED]

He passed a suspicious eye over my face and nodded briefly
Kingsley said you knew the Almores
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>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 08:51:06 2010 No.5140975 EXEC REBIRTHIA=PROTOCOL So good.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun May 16 10:56:06 2010 No.5141388 File: 159 KB, 782x702, 10688249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 14:38:06 2010 No.5142652 >>5141388 Oh god, HNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 16:30:06 2010 No.5143542 File: 287 KB, 1200x1200, 10689549.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 20:04:06 2010 No.5145295 >>5141388 I'd her wings.

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 20:06:00 2010 No.5145316 >>5071212 http://www.razerzone.com/getimba-share-n-win/ucfvv28

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Sun May 16 20:06:06 2010 No.5145313 File: 54 KB, 210x219, hnnnnnnnnnngh.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5141388

>>	Anonymous Sun May 16 20:22:06 2010 No.5145470 File: 176 KB, 600x806, 10659483.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5140975 It's KOKIA, of course it's good.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 00:46:06 2010 No.5147488 >>5145470 dat ribbon

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 00:56:06 2010 No.5147531 File: 259 KB, 966x1500, 8928498.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5141388 I forgot how criminally cute that artist does Frelia.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 01:03:06 2010 No.5147564 File: 149 KB, 700x633, 9512661.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5147531

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 01:25:06 2010 No.5147684 >>5082934 I just found a script to translate HTML to MediaWiki format, so I will try to pick up the pace starting this week.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 05:34:06 2010 No.5148569 >>5147684 You are a god among men.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon May 17 07:13:06 2010 No.5148877 File: 167 KB, 600x837, 10706812.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 07:27:06 2010 No.5148912 >>5148877 I like his idea of having a meal.

Anonymous Mon May 17 10:33:06 2010 No.5149479
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Hey Faggots,

My name is Croix, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, IPDs who spend every second of their day listening to stupid ass hymms. You are everything bad in Ar Ciel. Honestly, have any of you ever Dived any? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole cosmosphere. This is even worse than jerking off to Dive Therapy.

Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was member of the knights, and master of my Reyvateil. What missions do you complete, other than "jack off to naked IPDs"? I also get perfect defenses, and have a banging hot Reyvateil (She just yelled at me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening.

Pic Related: It's me and my Reyvateil

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 11:26:06 2010 No.5149649 >>5148877 Croix is such a lucky bastard although I still want my threesome with Lyner, Shurelia and Jakuri.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 15:04:06 2010 No.5150902 File: 176 KB, 700x994, 10711552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 18:36:06 2010 No.5152199 File: 1.04 MB, 1164x3278, 021901d7e03e7a753a088ad6f535d2c8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Poor Frelia, so weakened that she couldn't even join Croix's team.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 20:59:06 2010 No.5153096 >>5152199 She provides moe support.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 17 23:59:06 2010 No.5154150 >>5147684 I assume you'll be adding them directly to the Ar Portal/Toukousphere article on the wiki?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 02:22:06 2010 No.5154944 File: 783 KB, 1463x1024, gsdx_20091219163638 copy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5152199 Frelia is a slut

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue May 18 03:28:06 2010 No.5155320 File: 207 KB, 1000x512, 1251845786894.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5154944 Except Mir is the one suggesting the idea. >>5147531 I love that artist. I wish I could color the way she does.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 06:09:06 2010 No.5155922 >>5155320 I can see Mir bossing him into the situation with Shurelia worried about what to do getting al tsundere over it.. it would be delicious.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 06:12:06 2010 No.5155929 >>5155922 >al All. Fuck you deletion timer.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 06:22:06 2010 No.5155957 >>5149479 That was actually kinda funny.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 06:47:06 2010 No.5156008 >>5149479 >(She just yelled at me; Shit was SO cash) i have to laugh everytime i read it

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 06:51:06 2010 No.5156013 File: 89 KB, 600x840, crochesama.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5149479 He has good taste.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 06:57:06 2010 No.5156033 >>5155922 Shurelia is Ar Tsundere.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 07:17:06 2010 No.5156083 >>5156033 >Ar Tsundere i would buy that game

Anonymous Tue May 18 09:18:06 2010 No.5156521

>>5154944

Seeing this reminds me that it's always Jakuri suggesting these things. Dive into your underage sister and break through her binary field, have 3 people dive into herself, have 4 people dive into Frelia. I get the slight feeling that Jakuri would totally be a hard S, which is fine with me. She'd step all over you and start giving you a foot job while looking down on you and calling you a filthy human. She then gets completely disgusted when you dirty her feet. This is then followed up with an hour or two of non-stop rough sex with absolutely no breaks involved. After this you fall asleep instantly in which Jakuri lies down beside you and whispers that she loves you in your ear. You then subconsciously put your arm around her and you both fall asleep together.

Which reminds me.. β types are artificially created by being a clone of another origin and whilst it's clear that they have a growth period, personalities and emotions etc. I'm curious if they can actually experience an orgasm or the pleasure of being cummed inside. It's clear that Misha is begging for Lyner's dick so I guess they do.

Anonymous Tue May 18 10:35:06 2010 No.5157016

>>5156521
No reason to think they wouldn't. "Artificially created" doesn't mean anything other than that they weren't born naturally; they still have most of their genetic code in common with humans. Betas being able to experience the pleasure of being cummed inside is pretty much a prerequisite for Third Generations to exist, besides.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 10:40:06 2010 No.5157050 >>5157016 It doesn't mean they have to LIKE it, but I'm sure you're right.

Anonymous Tue May 18 11:58:06 2010 No.5157485

>>5157016

I can understand that they have a similar genetic code to humans but even in AT1 when you grathmeld some of the stuff for final weapons etc. you get discussions of Shurelia mentioning that they're parts used to make her. I'd post a screenshot but I'm on my laptop instead of my computer. Basically they're still not flesh and bone like 'normal' humans, even if they've died out and pretty much everyone has the reyvateil gene now. They might just have 'giving birth' as part of their functions but maybe they don't enjoy it/experience it as a normal person would.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 12:00:06 2010 No.5157494 >>5157485 Or maybe they experience it even more than a normal person would? It would explain the sheer lust from some of the characters. Hohoho..

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 12:26:06 2010 No.5157672 >>5157485 I think that's supposed to mean they're parts you make to make the machines that make her.

Anonymous Tue May 18 12:33:06 2010 No.5157702

>>5157485
Yes, parts of them are definitely artificial, but I always assumed they're more like cyborgs than gynoids.
I mean, why would you go to the trouble of designing a gynoid carrying humanoid genetic code and capable of being impregnated by humans and giving birth, rather than just modifying a human to suit your needs? (And even if you did, the intent is clearly to have them reproduce, so why not program them to enjoy it just like humans do?)

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 12:35:06 2010 No.5157718 Would anyone happen to know if, once the EX-attacks for your vanguards have been unlocked by crafting the appropriate item, said ability would carry over into a New Game+ ?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 13:42:06 2010 No.5157993 They shouldn't none of the other special attacks carry over. I really need to finish my second playthrough sometime.

Anonymous Tue May 18 14:02:06 2010 No.5158116

>>5157718

Nope, you need to get them all again. You're better off doing what you do in AT1/AT2 and just save before choices and play on from there.

>>5157672

Shurelia acts embarrassed and calls Lyner weird/a pervert when he creates certain items, Lyner is wondering what the fuck she's talking about then she specifically states that they're parts used in her body. I'll post the screenshots whenever I manage to get home on my normal PC since I'm stuck using my laptop right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 19:39:06 2010 No.5160001 File: 305 KB, 571x800, 10696973_p0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone mind translating these? In before pleasure, cumming inside etc.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 19:40:06 2010 No.5160005 File: 339 KB, 571x800, 10696973_p1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 21:21:06 2010 No.5160673 >>5160001 >>5160005 One of my sense is tingling

Anonymous Tue May 18 21:32:06 2010 No.5160754

>>5160001
Hehe ...
Aoto: Wow, they didn't sell these back home ...
Aoto: Arkia sure is amazing.

Finnel: Aaaaaaoto!!!

>>5160005
Aoto: F-finnel!
Aoto: D-don't open the door so fast! You scared me!

F-finnel: S-sorry ... but, I really wanted to showe you this ...
Finnel: I never helped you out, even though small text small text small text ...
Finnel: So I got small text to help me try to make my first Yokkora Set ...

Finnel: It's probably not that good, but ...
Finnel: Do you want some?

Aoto: O-o-o-of course!
Aoto: Finnel's cooking ... I-I bet it'll be great ...

Finnel: ... hey ...
Finnel: You didn't just hide anything in the bed, did you?
Aoto: Wh-what are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 21:45:06 2010 No.5160861 File: 620 KB, 1200x1600, 10698156.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5160754 Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 18 23:56:06 2010 No.5161873 Homura isn't my absolute favorite song but goddamn is it catchy. Especially the background chorus part that floats from one side of the headphones to the other.

Anonymous Wed May 19 02:51:06 2010 No.5162699

You guys are my favorite elitist bastards, so does the formatting on this look okay? (First TKS with AT3 characters)

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_89

It still took a surprising amount of time, but at least I didn't have to do even more reformatting than I did ... this is probably manageable enough to prevent me from stabbing my eyes out every time I try to do a new one.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 03:45:06 2010 No.5162881 >>5162699 Much obliged

Anonymous Wed May 19 07:26:06 2010 No.5163714

>>5162699

First of all I'd like to say thanks, it's clear you've invested quite a bit of time into this and it's very appreciated, thanks. After reading through it all it seems fine both grammar wise and layout wise so good job there. It's nice to see the AT3 characters being used now.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 12:51:06 2010 No.5165233 >>5162699 This is awesome, you are awesome.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 17:07:06 2010 No.5166556 File: 83 KB, 359x500, 3176241.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5162699 I'm willing to suck your penis, good sir.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 18:23:06 2010 No.5167132 Beautiful. Many thanks!

Anonymous Wed May 19 18:28:06 2010 No.5167164

>>5162699
>Aurica commenting on Saki
>Hey, no painting over Saki-chan! Even if you turned her pure black, she'd still be white underneath, so you'd just have to wash it off to turn her white again, right? We'll have to make sure she turns black bit by bit from inside.

>We'll have to make sure she turns black bit by bit from inside.

I never knew she could be so evil. This has raised my perception of her significantly.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 18:40:06 2010 No.5167279 >>5167164 I know, right? I mean, once you go black you don't go back.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 18:42:06 2010 No.5167295 >>5167279 I was surprised even though I kinda knew she was a yandere from AT1 but I like her more now that I know she isn't just a half-assed yandere.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 20:26:06 2010 No.5168249 File: 620 KB, 660x770, 391442.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5167295 She's always appeared batshit crazy in the Toukousphere, especially when taking to Luca.

Anonymous Wed May 19 22:13:06 2010 No.5169230
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>>5162699

Any idea which Toukousphere issues you're interested in translating? Or are you planning on just doing them all after the issue that you translated? I understand they're a pretty big timesink and that you mentioned that you'd only bother with ones that stick out to you but now that you've got 89 done I was wondering what your current plan is.

>>5168249

>taking

And this is why I hate using a laptop. I meant talking, obviously.

>>	Anomynous Wed May 19 22:14:06 2010 No.5169243 >>5168249 >Aurica and Luca talking together Oh dear, I'm really missing a lot by not reading these. About how many can you read without running into the AT3 characters?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 19 22:17:06 2010 No.5169257 >>5169243 I've only read what has been translated at http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere They're a good read and you'll get to see Aurica getting jealous of Luca's fig.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 02:13:06 2010 No.5170783 File: 113 KB, 550x768, 7005013.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu May 20 07:03:06 2010 No.5171745 File: 77 KB, 466x650, 1251855179484.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 07:03:06 2010 No.5171746 File: 113 KB, 707x500, 782bfc0f5f8499fa664d86df1f8e0b30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 07:18:06 2010 No.5171792 What's the music that plays in the Enna Palace Ruins in AT2 called?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 07:25:06 2010 No.5171808 >>5170783 You know, I really don't mind AT threads, just because of this girl.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 07:51:06 2010 No.5171886 File: 215 KB, 610x1041, a5dde35fb55595ccbc12c38678e80372.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5171808 What about Shurelia?

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 10:41:06 2010 No.5172352 >>5171886 dunno about him, but for me shurelia was the reason i played the first game and got into the series. i love 2d albinos.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 11:16:06 2010 No.5172466 >>5171886 Shurelia is the best waifu... in the first game at least.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 11:40:06 2010 No.5172553 Why is Shurelia Eolia in the material book

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 11:44:32 2010 No.5172567 >>5172553 Because that's her original name from the first Era. She was tired of everyone revering her as a God (Eolia, Frelia and Tylia being the 3 'gods') so she changed her name to Shurelia but her hymn code etc. is still EOLIA.

Anonymous Thu May 20 11:46:06 2010 No.5172575
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>>5172553
That's her real name and it's part of her Hymm code. Shurelia is just Eleno's daughter's name. They look alike, Eleno names Eolia after dead Shurelia, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 13:06:06 2010 No.5172989 File: 424 KB, 510x900, 752879.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 19:51:06 2010 No.5175459 File: 953 KB, 500x4408, 8566667.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] And this is why Finnel is awesome.

>>	Anonymous Thu May 20 20:52:06 2010 No.5175831 So I downloaded the for lazy people pack and set it up... I dislike that it slows down even on a four core system with 8gb of memory.

Anonymous Thu May 20 21:07:06 2010 No.5175938

>>5175831

What? My old PC running a dual core E6600 at stock, a 7950GT and 2GB DDR2 RAM runs AT1 and AT2 flawlessly using GSdx. ZeroGS worked fine too. Other games like Shadow of the Colossus dropped to like 20 FPS though. My current system with an AMD 965 at 3.5ghz, 4GB DDR3 RAM and a 5870 tears through anything you throw at it so I think something is definitely setup wrong on your end.

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>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 00:18:06 2010 No.5177636 Help me out here guys, playing AT2, says I need to take Lift I to the Court, but it's out of order. What do I do?

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 01:58:06 2010 No.5178417 >>5177636 Figured it out.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 02:10:06 2010 No.5178467 File: 305 KB, 700x700, 10775818.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5178417 What was wrong? I never seemed to have a problem during that part.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 02:23:06 2010 No.5178520 Yeah, I only remember getting stuck when the game lied to you and told you to go to a location that's no longer on the world map. (Translation screwup, apparently. Maybe there are multiple in that segment?)

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 02:32:06 2010 No.5178555 >>5178520 >>5178467 I actually had to take elevator III, as opposed to elevator I.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 02:51:06 2010 No.5178661 Bah, people always portray Jacqli as a little girl when really she's not that young. So stupid.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri May 21 03:15:06 2010 No.5178776 File: 70 KB, 500x698, 20100520231941.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5178661 But it's moe moe desu when Inudrill does it.

Anonymous Fri May 21 03:25:06 2010 No.5178832

>>5178661
Could have something to do with the fact that she is rather smallchested and seems to be fairly short.. even if she happens to be 200+ years old, doesn't matter for fanart.
She's still one of the best characters in AT2 (I personally like Cocona more, too bad she didn't have her own route, and no, the 'no route' for Cocona ending doesn't count).

Anonymous Fri May 21 07:33:06 2010 No.5179804

>>5178832

I'm pretty sure it does count, at least for AT3 anyway since I've seen quite a few references of Cocona falling in love with Aoto but I'm not sure if that actually develops into anything in the Cocona ending or not.

>>5178661

She's relatively small, flat chested and has a childish personality at times, even if she is one of the smartest characters in the games. Few artists seem to depict her in a good way though.. they either slap on some disgusting tumours or they completely turn her into a loli.

Anonymous Fri May 21 14:27:06 2010 No.5181983
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I just realized something.. When the towers come down in AT3 this means all of the personalities in AT3 are gone so no more sweaty moe, right? If so then this makes me extremely sad in the pants.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 17:23:06 2010 No.5182996 http://dokuganryu.com/scans/game/tonelico3/ Artbook scans up here. Only 69 pages so I'm not sure if that's everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 18:08:06 2010 No.5183405 >>5182996 It isn't, only the pages with pretty pictures.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 18:39:06 2010 No.5183688 >>5182996 Thank you for the scans. By the way, what does うなし mean? It's the location for Finnel's install port.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 18:40:06 2010 No.5183710 >>5183688 Probably a typo of うなじ.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 18:43:06 2010 No.5183744 >>5182996 I want a Tiia in a box. Also some of those poses used in the purge designs are so very delicious. And I just noticed that Aoto is faceless quite a lot. Thanks for the link.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 23:10:06 2010 No.5185674 File: 295 KB, 930x1100, 10773658.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 23:32:06 2010 No.5185860 >>5182996 Saki's lvl1 purge should be her default costume. Hnnng.

>>	Anonymous Fri May 21 23:41:06 2010 No.5185937 >>5182996 Wow. Jack looks like fuckin' Solid Snake. Also, an assault rifle and hand grenades? The AT world's technology is more diverse than I thought. I thought guns would only be attached to something unconventional-say, a spear, for example. Huh.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 00:07:06 2010 No.5186105 >>5182996 Link is down. Did anyone download all of the pictures? It would be helpful if you could RAR/Zip it up and upload them.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 00:13:06 2010 No.5186152 >>5186105 It's working fine for me.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 00:36:06 2010 No.5186341 >>5186152 Huh, it's working again. Guess it was just temporary.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 01:07:06 2010 No.5186553 File: 30 KB, 358x359, 1274411022903.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >My face when Mayor Fuglycool

Anonymous Sat May 22 01:10:06 2010 No.5186579

Uploaded the entire scan collection from that site. Download it if you don't have a bulk-downloader plugin/extension like flashgot, downloadthemall, etc.

http://www.mediafire.com/?jrm2mg22mkx

I also have a folder set up for AT-related stuff.
http://www.mediafire.com/artonelicojp

Not much in there now. Just EXEC_NULLASCENSION, ATFLPP, and the Art Book. Don't even know why I made it. Doesn't hurt, I guess.

Also, judging by the number downloads of EXEC_NULLASCENSION from the last time I uploaded it, I figure there are 30-40 people reading this thread (and at the very least 25).

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 01:11:06 2010 No.5186586 So this says that Tilia's sizes are 87-59-82. Uh. Is it really going in BWH order?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 01:14:06 2010 No.5186598 >>5186586 What other orders are there? That sounds pretty hour glassy.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 01:15:06 2010 No.5186600 >>5186586 >Tilia >Bust 87

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 01:19:06 2010 No.5186615 >>5186600 I'm only partway through AT2, dunno who that is, I assume she's pretty flat though from that reaction. In any case, it's not an order problem, if it was she would have a really interesting shape.

>>	Anomynous Sat May 22 01:20:06 2010 No.5186621 >>5186600 Underbust 86

>>	Anomynous Sat May 22 01:20:06 2010 No.5186624 >>5186615 Tilia is AT3

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 01:22:06 2010 No.5186633 >>5186624 My statement is still valid.

Anonymous Sat May 22 04:36:06 2010 No.5187654

>>5186633

See >>5185674
>>5135114
>>5133656
>>5130134

etc.

>>5186579

Depends really, sometimes we get some discussion going and the thread is relatively active. Be sure to link that folder when/if a new thread is made and you'd probably get a significant increase in downloads.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 08:44:06 2010 No.5188557 http://www.t-ono.net/Gaming-News/Ar-Tonelico-3-US-Release-Pending.html

Anonymous Sat May 22 09:20:06 2010 No.5188696

Hey guys, I don't browse /jp/ often, but a thread I read a while ago got me to get AT1.

Just a small question, are they any secret weapons/items or other unlockables I could possibly miss? I don't really intend to use a strategy guide for playing the game as I find more fun to just wing it.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 09:21:06 2010 No.5188706 >>5188696 There is equipment and items you can miss or just not bother looking for ingredients they tell you to.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 09:38:06 2010 No.5188786 >>5188557 any date for that press conference?

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 11:12:06 2010 No.5189190 >>5188557 inb4 this is a hoax

Anonymous Sat May 22 11:13:06 2010 No.5189195

>>5188557

Fuck yes, this makes me extremely happy. I can only hope they don't fuck up this time.

>>5188696

There's nothing really that secret, most of your items are crafted through graftmelding (where it tells you which items you need) and some are given through talk events like Lyner getting special accessories which are awesome. I Managed to craft Misha's and Aurica's cosmosphere items, Lyner's final armour and weapon and also got the best weapons/armour for Jack and Krusche (since they don't get a 'final' weapon like Lyner, I think, just a 'Level 4 gun' 'Level 4 chain' etc.) all without grinding a single time. It actually made the final boss easier than it had to be and that was without using installed crystals. Easy game is easy.

>>	Anomynous Sat May 22 12:49:06 2010 No.5189770 File: 352 KB, 1400x788, 1274405507479.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5188557 My glee, words cannot express it.

Anonymous Sat May 22 13:23:06 2010 No.5190000

Filterguy here yet again. Goddamn, I don't even know if I even need to do this anymore, hahaha. The spam's now almost completely unreadable as he's putting random letters in between every letter of every word.

Still easy as shit to filter, though.

pastebin.com/NdR4qkSq

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 13:28:06 2010 No.5190030 All right. Thread's hit the bump limit. I'll make another one now.

>>	Anonymous Sat May 22 13:37:06 2010 No.5190082 New thread at: >>5190043

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